Israel is scary

[blckhawk]

Remember that time when a reporter asked a politician from Israel about Israel having a nuclear arsenal or weapon in the country and the politician didn't have a straight answer and tries to answer in a way that doesn't answer the question but the reporter kept on insisting that it's a simple yes or no question which it is but the politician can't answer it? Now that they're on a war against Palestine, it's scares me that they're probably going to do anything for their country to survive, this will probably be the conflict that's going to answer that question. I don't have the link to that interview but I can remember it, hopefully someone knows about that interview too.

[Joeyp]

Here is answer to your thread - Israel nuclear weapons - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_Israel

[Hispo]

The last time I checked or remember about Israel and the possesion of mass destruction devices, is that they formaly have said they have some of those arsenals, but on the other hand, it has never been confirmed by third parties they have those devices.

Though, I would not be surprised if they actually have some of them, delivered by the United States and only under the command of use of USA.
Even if USA is their most important ally on this planet, it would be quite irresponsible of them to give those weapons to direct Israeli command, instead some USA commander in the middle east.

[blckhawk]

The last time I checked or remember about Israel and the possesion of mass destruction devices, is that they formaly have said they have some of those arsenals, but on the other hand, it has never been confirmed by third parties they have those devices.

Though, I would not be surprised if they actually have some of them, delivered by the United States and only under the command of use of USA.
Even if USA is their most important ally on this planet, it would be quite irresponsible of them to give those weapons to direct Israeli command, instead some USA commander in the middle east.

The bolded part is what scares me the most because without any confirmation from outside parties that would mean that they should be classified as a rogue nation. If you read the link that was provided by JoeyP, it could help you formulate that US is not a fan of giving nukes to Israel plus if you've known about the Cuban Missile Crisis, I think that you would know that US wouldn't put nukes that's close to Russia or anywhere in the Middle East so even if the US was sneaky about the nuclear arsenal delivery, Russian intelligence will definitely get a wind of that delivery and would react to it as if it's another Cold War for them.

[Hispo]

The last time I checked or remember about Israel and the possesion of mass destruction devices, is that they formaly have said they have some of those arsenals, but on the other hand, it has never been confirmed by third parties they have those devices.

Though, I would not be surprised if they actually have some of them, delivered by the United States and only under the command of use of USA.
Even if USA is their most important ally on this planet, it would be quite irresponsible of them to give those weapons to direct Israeli command, instead some USA commander in the middle east.

The bolded part is what scares me the most because without any confirmation from outside parties that would mean that they should be classified as a rogue nation. If you read the link that was provided by JoeyP, it could help you formulate that US is not a fan of giving nukes to Israel plus if you've known about the Cuban Missile Crisis, I think that you would know that US wouldn't put nukes that's close to Russia or anywhere in the Middle East so even if the US was sneaky about the nuclear arsenal delivery, Russian intelligence will definitely get a wind of that delivery and would react to it as if it's another Cold War for them.

Moving nuclear artillery is of course something which is not easy to do without adversaries knowing about it, it must be one of the biggest objectives of any intelligence agency: to keep an eye on the nuclear installations of their foes.
So, either Russia knows about the existence of those nukes in the middle east and did not say anything about it to the public, or Israel is not actually armed with them.
I have not read about whether Israel having a nuclear program or not, but if North Korea, which is a nation which is pretty much almost isolated from the rest of the world by sanctions could do it, I do not see a reason why Israel could not develop their own underground program as well.

Hopefully neither of the parts involved have access to those kind of weapons and this conflict de-escalate rather than heating up...

[BitcoinBunny]

Remember that time when a reporter asked a politician from Israel about Israel having a nuclear arsenal or weapon in the country and the politician didn't have a straight answer and tries to answer in a way that doesn't answer the question but the reporter kept on insisting that it's a simple yes or no question which it is but the politician can't answer it? Now that they're on a war against Palestine, it's scares me that they're probably going to do anything for their country to survive, this will probably be the conflict that's going to answer that question. I don't have the link to that interview but I can remember it, hopefully someone knows about that interview too.

Each to to their own, but I certainly feel less scared about Israel possessing nukes than an insane fucked up death cult which happily suicide bombs a concert where little girls are attending.

[tvbcof]

Nuke's aside, Israel is about the only country who has the technical ability to create sophisticated genetic biological weapons and refuses to participate in the biological weapons convention treaties.



Back when the apartheid government was still around in South Africa, they and Israel had a similar problem with people of undesirable genotype and cooperated in ethnic bio-weapons research.  There seems to be compelling evidence of this.  Some say that the now-famous 'ace-2' receptor to which spike protein binds was of interest since it's expression various markedly by genotype and is almost absent in 'pure' Ashkenazi Jews (and Fins.)

Judaism has a pretty strong emphasis of 'bloodline' and being of the 'chosen' people.  The general sentiment seems to express even in people who are not ostensibly driven by the religious fundamentalism.  Given the justifications for doing the ethnic cleansing of the people of Gaza, it seems pretty possible that some nasty atrocities could be in store for pretty much all 'enemies' of the Jews, and pretty much all other people but particular Jews are often considered 'enemies' by an unpleasantly large number of Rabbis who have chosen to speak to the matter.

Yeah, Israel and the various supporter, citizens/dual-citizens, Zionist groupies who are still 'scattered', etc are more than a little 'scary' I would say.

[Publictalk792]

It's understandable to be concerned during times of conflict the Situation in Israel and Palestine is complex and has a long history. As for the interview you mentioned It's important for politicians to be transparent with their constituents. Let's hope for a Peaceful resolution to the ongoing conflict.

[inthelongrun]

The last time I checked or remember about Israel and the possesion of mass destruction devices, is that they formaly have said they have some of those arsenals, but on the other hand, it has never been confirmed by third parties they have those devices.

Though, I would not be surprised if they actually have some of them, delivered by the United States and only under the command of use of USA.
Even if USA is their most important ally on this planet, it would be quite irresponsible of them to give those weapons to direct Israeli command, instead some USA commander in the middle east.

The bolded part is what scares me the most because without any confirmation from outside parties that would mean that they should be classified as a rogue nation. If you read the link that was provided by JoeyP, it could help you formulate that US is not a fan of giving nukes to Israel plus if you've known about the Cuban Missile Crisis, I think that you would know that US wouldn't put nukes that's close to Russia or anywhere in the Middle East so even if the US was sneaky about the nuclear arsenal delivery, Russian intelligence will definitely get a wind of that delivery and would react to it as if it's another Cold War for them.

It is not really surprising that Israel developed its own nukes because even at the very beginning the Jews already had a lot of scientists. I don't know about their mentality in the past but it is surprising to me why they had a lot of scientists and many of them were instrumental in the development of the world's most dangerous and destructive weapon. Einstein, Meitner, and even Oppenheimer himself (the lead scientist who discovered the atomic bomb) were Jews. I read a lot about history and wars and there's a high probability that Hitler would've developed the atomic first if he had not persecuted the Jews.

[mu_enrico]

It's not scary if you think that they have nukes but decided NOT to use them till now. Imagine their surrounding countries get access to nuke... Thankfully only sane countries have nukes (except North Korea... it's more like drunk but not yet crazy).

[Die_empty]

Remember that time when a reporter asked a politician from Israel about Israel having a nuclear arsenal or weapon in the country and the politician didn't have a straight answer and tries to answer in a way that doesn't answer the question but the reporter kept on insisting that it's a simple yes or no question which it is but the politician can't answer it? Now that they're on a war against Palestine, it's scares me that they're probably going to do anything for their country to survive, this will probably be the conflict that's going to answer that question. I don't have the link to that interview but I can remember it, hopefully someone knows about that interview too.

It seems the assumption that Israel has some nuclear warheads is a myth because it has not been verified by any other country. And the silence of the Israeli politician is confusing because he didn't answer the question. Even if they have they should not be used on the people of Gaza. The Israeli Defence Force has almost destroyed Gaza, using a nuclear weapon will show clearly that it is a genocide. Western leaders are now becoming conscious of civilian casualties an example is the Prime Minister of Canada who was vocal about the killing of civilians by the IDF.

My biggest challenge now is the order by Israel for the evacuation of about twenty hospitals in Gaza. Many injured people are on mechanical ventilators and some are gravely injured and cannot survive in transit. But Israel is insisting that there is no humanitarian crisis and they should leave. Some hospitals have started complying, while others have refused to move. Peace in the Middle East!!!!

[coolcoinz]

Here is answer to your thread - Israel nuclear weapons - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_Israel

"with French co-operation, secretly began building the Negev Nuclear Research Center,[d] a facility near Dimona housing a nuclear reactor and reprocessing plant in the late 1950s."

The same France that secretly sold weapons to Russia after the trade ban, when the whole EU wasn't even supplying Russia with items of basic need.

France admitted to selling weapons to Russia and claimed that they had a deal from before the war... So, you allow your neighbor to get fruits and vegetables from your garden, but now you see that he's not eating those, but instead throws them at random people passing by his fence. The people see that vegetables come from your garden and ask you to stop supplying him, but you refuse because you had a deal from before.

If Israel used nukes, the rest of the world would of course condemn it, so Jews must be scared

[passwordnow]

War itself is scary and whoever started it is scarier. And that's why these nukes and biological weapons are gonna be triggered if it's not stopped as soon as possible. The winner might be happy that they have been a victor against their enemy but are they also triumphant to see the lives that were scattered on the road, in their actual homes lying on the floor without life? All of these wars are taking the lives of innocent kids, grandpas, grandmas, boys and girls, everyone's lives. Peace should be maintained in all of these regions but I think that's a utopian dream. Now, these ideas of strengthening the military for each country will always be the case for most countries these days allotting a budget for that as a priority because it seems that everyone is just waiting for something to trigger and this is not a good thing. Even if I'm not there, it seems that every news that I watch is scaring me all about trigger happy people, warmongers, etc.

[Hispo]

It's not scary if you think that they have nukes but decided NOT to use them till now. Imagine their surrounding countries get access to nuke... Thankfully only sane countries have nukes (except North Korea... it's more like drunk but not yet crazy).

If the world was completely sane there would be no nukes and nuclear warheads in existence, to be honest. Also, if you say that it would be even scarier if those Arab countries which surround Israel had nukes, then I agree with you, because some of them have obvious sympathy with groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, not even mention that many of them have swore to destroy the State of Israel.
The only reason the regime in North Korea still exists to this day is because their nuclear arsenal, I have no doubt in my mind the United States and its allies in the West would have liberated the people of NK a long time ago if Kim and his family did not have that precious nuclear program they keep up to this day.

[Hewlet]

Ideally, international wars have rules and regulations and what is happening between the Israelis and Palestinians is being monitored by international organizations. I doubt any nation at war would want to take part in using nuclear weapons for its war. During the Russia and Ukraine war when it was certain that rusia had a nuclear weapon, till the war has reduced to the extent it is now, they never used it because they understand that using the nuclear weapons at this time in the world is a strong recipe for a possible world war and that's not the part the world would want to experience again

The only issue I have with war crimes is how its investigations can be carried out void of political interests because even in this current isreali Palestinian war, there was a moment when war crime was committed when an health ambulance was reportedly short at coursing serious casualty both on the medical personnel and the patient in the ambulance and you are seeing derogatory statement suggesting that the ambulance is used by the opposition armies which is a clear display of politicizing a serious war crime.

[Baki202]

Remember that time when a reporter asked a politician from Israel about Israel having a nuclear arsenal or weapon in the country and the politician didn't have a straight answer and tries to answer in a way that doesn't answer the question but the reporter kept on insisting that it's a simple yes or no question which it is but the politician can't answer it? Now that they're on a war against Palestine, it's scares me that they're probably going to do anything for their country to survive, this will probably be the conflict that's going to answer that question. I don't have the link to that interview but I can remember it, hopefully someone knows about that interview too.

They will not in any way reveal such information to the public, and Israel wants to demonstrate to the rest of the world that if a country wants war, it will give it to them. After all, how can you invade a country and kill 400 soldiers without expecting retaliation? War is bad, but Israel does not want to be perceived as weak.  And when it comes to Arsenal, Israel is a serious country. I sincerely hope that this conflict ends soon because, although we may not be offended, we still have to deal with the fallout.

[btc78]

Remember that time when a reporter asked a politician from Israel about Israel having a nuclear arsenal or weapon in the country and the politician didn't have a straight answer and tries to answer in a way that doesn't answer the question but the reporter kept on insisting that it's a simple yes or no question which it is but the politician can't answer it? Now that they're on a war against Palestine, it's scares me that they're probably going to do anything for their country to survive, this will probably be the conflict that's going to answer that question. I don't have the link to that interview but I can remember it, hopefully someone knows about that interview too.

They will not in any way reveal such information to the public, and Israel wants to demonstrate to the rest of the world that if a country wants war, it will give it to them. After all, how can you invade a country and kill 400 soldiers without expecting retaliation? War is bad, but Israel does not want to be perceived as weak.  And when it comes to Arsenal, Israel is a serious country. I sincerely hope that this conflict ends soon because, although we may not be offended, we still have to deal with the fallout.

the war between Israelis and Palestinians have been going since the beginning of the time this isn’t the first arab-jewish war that broke out in fact many have already started and ended in the past leaving more land to Israelis and less to Palestinians each time

this probably is the biggest the world has ever seen with more social media coverage everyone has eyes on the israel-palestine conflict i fear that israel will only stop once they’ve obtained what they want and that is full ownership of palestine , they want their land in short the terrorist attack has given israel the opportunity to do just this

UN will most likely order for a ceasefire with most countries voting for it let’s see where it will end

[OgNasty]

It's not scary if you think that they have nukes but decided NOT to use them till now. Imagine their surrounding countries get access to nuke... Thankfully only sane countries have nukes (except North Korea... it's more like drunk but not yet crazy).

Anyone using nukes in our current times would be insane. Even threatening to use them for a country like Israel will surely come back to bite them. I worry that they feel too empowered with all their weaponry and aren’t thinking logically about the hatred they’re fostering for their future. I hope they know what they’re doing.

[inthelongrun]

It's not scary if you think that they have nukes but decided NOT to use them till now. Imagine their surrounding countries get access to nuke... Thankfully only sane countries have nukes (except North Korea... it's more like drunk but not yet crazy).

If the world was completely sane there would be no nukes and nuclear warheads in existence, to be honest. Also, if you say that it would be even scarier if those Arab countries which surround Israel had nukes, then I agree with you, because some of them have obvious sympathy with groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, not even mention that many of them have swore to destroy the State of Israel.
The only reason the regime in North Korea still exists to this day is because their nuclear arsenal, I have no doubt in my mind the United States and its allies in the West would have liberated the people of NK a long time ago if Kim and his family did not have that precious nuclear program they keep up to this day.

I wonder what the world would look like if US President Truman agreed with General McArthur to nuke China in order to stop the Chinese from sending millions of soldiers to Korea. Pretty sure the Korean peninsula would've been united in a democratic government and North Korean citizens would've been mostly rich by now. And current communist China would've been small or even wiped out by the Taiwanese. Tibet, Manchuria and maybe even Xinjiang would've declared their own independence. Instead, Truman removed McArthur from command. Now the US world dominance long term is in danger by the ever-growing China.

[yenerbatmaz]

I wonder what the world would look like if US President Truman agreed with General McArthur to nuke China in order to stop the Chinese from sending millions of soldiers to Korea. Pretty sure the Korean peninsula would've been united in a democratic government and North Korean citizens would've been mostly rich by now. And current communist China would've been small or even wiped out by the Taiwanese. Tibet, Manchuria and maybe even Xinjiang would've declared their own independence. Instead, Truman removed McArthur from command. Now the US world dominance long term is in danger by the ever-growing China.

25-30% of Asian youth would identify themselves as LGBTQ, a deluded and completely for profit education and healthcare system would start brainwashing even prepubescent children into trying out extremely harmful hormone replacement therapies to promote that dark agenda,

friends, coworkers, spouses would constantly whistleblow and rat on eachother in the name of "political correctness",

police would brutalize their own tax paying citizens with military grade equipment and yet let crime run rampant amongst certain privileged groups under the orders of their social engineering overlords,

in short Asia might have looked a lot more like the shithole that is the failing USA today, so I think most rational people would agree world is far better off this way.