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Author Topic: I think gambling is inbuilt, kids don't learn it anywhere, they do it!  (Read 1612 times)
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October 19, 2023, 09:16:33 PM
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The Australian Government once said about abolishing gambling ads as a means of reducing gambling activities amongst underage people. But, I think they'll be no successful way of stopping young people from gambling. As it's in them. Most articles here also say things like gambling addiction being hereditary. That means gambling can be hereditary as well. Because I just watched from a distant two kids below 10 years, staking bets, after a long argument about who the artiste of a specific song is. They later staked close to 40 cents each, for the person who gets the answer right. Then they went ahead to verify. And I lost sight of them. I thought about, how come or who thought these kids about betting money during a long argument. I was able to memorize, back when I was a kid. We easily said, how much would you bet if it turns out I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"

Australian economy was the well developed economy,So they not bother about their citizen to get involve in the gambling.Their full view on the kids and younger generation should not get into the addiction of gambling at the younger ages.For this reason,the Australia had stopped the usage of the credit cards to the gambling.So the kids can’t use the credit cards without the knowledge of their parents.In Australia the kids was random encounter of captured by their parents and many escalated for the miss use the credit cards by their children.So the stopping gambling ads can reduce the certain population to the gambling,but not high percentage.
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October 19, 2023, 09:19:10 PM
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If gambling ads are banned and kids do not see such a thing, this will reduce the way kids are gambling. In my country as an example, there are gambling ads everywhere, on YouTube and TV channels, in a way kids can easily know that they can go online to gamble. It is true that gambling is in the mind of humans naturally, but the explanation of the kids that you explained is different from the land based and online gambling because there is nio way that can lead to addiction.
This can result to a big changed in number when it comes to young people getting exposed in gambling but still if the parents are still exposing their own children to any kind of gambling, then sooner or later they will still know it and yes betting is the easiest way to gamble even if you are still young. This could be part of the human nature already but of course they still need our guidance and we should continue to discourage them from getting involve in gambling.

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October 19, 2023, 09:21:22 PM
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They only attached addiction to gambling, they're not really the same imo. It's more like "addiction" can be inherited, not gambling addiction itself. It's something similar to how you do the same things as your parents, in some cases though, the direction can be skewed. So e.g. if your parents was addicted to working, it wouldn't be odd for you to be addicted to working as well but it also wouldn't be weird if you were addicted to something else, in this case, gambling.

Plus, it's just kid doing kid stuff. Even amongst the hundreds of other classmates I've had across my life, I've said "wanna bet on it" probably more than a thousand times and a lof of the opposing party didn't necessarily fall into gambling, at least afaik.

 
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October 19, 2023, 09:27:23 PM
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I don't believe anybody is born with gambling addiction neither is it hereditary.
If a child wasn't exposed to gambling they won't gamble. Those kids you saw have seen it somewhere before they could bet amongst themselves. You guys underestimate the power of the society and environment kids grow up in.
Nobody will grow up in an environment where he doesn't see people place bets or gamble and then grow up to be someone who gambles, talk more of having gambling addictions.

Gambling and bet companies invest a lot in marketing. During sports matches, all the ads you see as gambling ads, don't underestimate that.
What Australia is trying to do will not eliminate gambling completely, but it will reduce the rate at which people gamble.
I don't think it's right for them to stop gambling ads, but I also believe their strategy would work in the long run.

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October 19, 2023, 09:33:37 PM
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If gambling ads are banned and kids do not see such a thing, this will reduce the way kids are gambling. In my country as an example, there are gambling ads everywhere, on YouTube and TV channels, in a way kids can easily know that they can go online to gamble. It is true that gambling is in the mind of humans naturally, but the explanation of the kids that you explained is different from the land based and online gambling because there is nio way that can lead to addiction.
This can result to a big changed in number when it comes to young people getting exposed in gambling but still if the parents are still exposing their own children to any kind of gambling, then sooner or later they will still know it and yes betting is the easiest way to gamble even if you are still young. This could be part of the human nature already but of course they still need our guidance and we should continue to discourage them from getting involve in gambling.
We are in a modern technology where the kids can easily get information online and even if we discourage them to do gambling, time will come that they will do it as they can also learn this from their friends. Proper guidance is the key here and of course let’s just do our part to guide them. The government effort is good especially on banning the gambling ads, hopefully the social media platform will also take initiative to ban such kind of promotions, I believe they contribute a lot to the exposure of the kids to gambling.
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October 19, 2023, 09:38:59 PM
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I don't think gambling is inbuilt rather majority of underage kids who engage in gambling were majorly influenced by the kind of environment they grew up in. There are a lot of children who until they reach the age of 13+ never heard about gambling and that's because of the fact that they grew up in a wealthy environment and so activities around them never exposed them to gambling while their other counterparts from poor neighborhoods are always exposed to gambling at very tender age because it's a normal means of survival for most the adults around them. They grow up thinking that gambling is also a way of survival thereby getting involved in it without being specially taught about gambling.

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October 19, 2023, 09:46:30 PM
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You see the streamer.

They promote these, and most streamers don't know that their audience is kids. Most of streamer is a former (gamers) while the audience sometimes a kids not everyone is adult.

Once, they watch a stream gambling with streamer they will tried. The flow is always like these, started to bet with item (potential CS-GO skin Gambling) and to real money soon.

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October 19, 2023, 09:55:50 PM
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If gambling ads are banned and kids do not see such a thing, this will reduce the way kids are gambling. In my country as an example, there are gambling ads everywhere, on YouTube and TV channels, in a way kids can easily know that they can go online to gamble. It is true that gambling is in the mind of humans naturally, but the explanation of the kids that you explained is different from the land based and online gambling because there is no way that can lead to addiction.
Yes if gambling ads are banned and other gambling promotions which have been constantly put at our faces without regard to the risk this could pause for the weekend but then also the government in the part of the world needs to do a lot in the area and there should come up with gambling regulations for the country and how it operates and within what level they can operate.

Our TV stations have become a home for gambling adverts with a lot of celebrities now becoming casino ambassadors and also promoting them to their fans.

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October 19, 2023, 10:18:16 PM
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People are gambling by nature that's for sure. If that's not the case then we wouldn't have risk-takers and successful tycoons after all. The problem with kids gambling however, is that they are exposed to it at a much earlier age instead of when they are of legal recognition, when they're more responsible for their actions and thoughts.  Australian government taking a crackdown approach at stopping kids from being exposed to gambling at such a precarious age in their lives is a good thing as it makes sure that they don't get the wrong connotations and all that stuff. To say that their efforts are futile because every kid's a gambler in nature almost sounds like "we should not have laws anymore since humans are inherently evil anyway". Do you see the flawed logic behind that statement of yours?

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...We easily said, how much would you bet if it turns out I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"
Parents are role models for their children. Children usually find it easier to understand or follow what their parents do when the children are still minors. But on the other hand, their emotional maturity is certainly not good, they even tend to be unstable. In this case, it cannot be denied that when children see their parents gambling even in front of their eyes, of course the child will also be curious about what their parents are doing. Even interested in trying. Moreover, there are many children who really like to follow what their parents do, so if this gambling happens or even often in front of them or they know we are gambling then they will join in. So, in this case, the role of parents is very big in preventing or preventing their children from entering the world of gambling.

At least set an example in front of them that we don't gamble, even though we actually gamble, but try not to let them know about this. This can actually be a pretty big trigger.

On the other hand, apart from parents, there are other factors that make children interested in gambling, namely the advertisements that easily appear on the platforms they visit. Even on online gaming platforms, gambling advertisements often occur. So, if the government makes such a regulation, it might not be in vain. At least that could be one way to prevent children from being underage for gambling. It's not the only way but it could be said to be one way. So, this won't be in vain.

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October 19, 2023, 10:22:27 PM
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I agree with @OP that betting and gambling is already inculcated in human DNA.  If it is not then gambling will not exist.  Aside from that through observation, these kids can mimic the adults when they hear some bet being done among their relatives.  I am sure the adults surrounding those kids are often seen betting on the issues seen in the media, so it won't be surprising these kids will do the same.

Tycoons and rich people are smart people who mitigate risk in order to achieve their goal, I do not think they are gamblers but rather risk takers who know how to minimize the risk to zero.

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October 19, 2023, 10:29:31 PM
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I don't believe anybody is born with gambling addiction neither is it hereditary.
If a child wasn't exposed to gambling they won't gamble. Those kids you saw have seen it somewhere before they could bet amongst themselves. You guys underestimate the power of the society and environment kids grow up in.
Nobody will grow up in an environment where he doesn't see people place bets or gamble and then grow up to be someone who gambles, talk more of having gambling addictions.

Gambling and bet companies invest a lot in marketing. During sports matches, all the ads you see as gambling ads, don't underestimate that.
What Australia is trying to do will not eliminate gambling completely, but it will reduce the rate at which people gamble.
I don't think it's right for them to stop gambling ads, but I also believe their strategy would work in the long run.
Gambling can be all sort of different form that human actually practice without them noticing it, because the urge to always win is something that is natural among the human race but although I agree that environment hold a very big factor to the influence of a child but the fact still remains that although they are not exposed to such act they still involved in competitious act that is  built-in them .
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I don't think that gambling is hereditary, it's something that we learn from the society. I think  that what we're born with is argument, humans will go to any length to prove that their right and can even make a bet to proof the authenticity of their arguments. It's different from gambling that means to make bets with the aim of making monetary gains, whether for fun or as means of livelihood.

In my country today, you'll see a lot of lotto and sports betting shops, which was not so in the past. But due to the economic hardship in the country, the old and young  started to look for shortcuts to riches, and they see gambling as the route. Originally ninety percent of them wouldn't consider gambling as a hubby talk less of engaging in it as a source of income. So you wouldn't consider most of them as born gamblers, it's circumstances that drove them into it. Again the bet adverts that is very common on TV and social media, giving the impression that gambling is an easy way to success, they're the factors that are responsible for making gambling inbuilt in our society today, not that it's in us from birth. My opinion.











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Forget about all you're saying, children tend to learn things faster than you could thought of, if you teach them they will know and probably understand even better than you the teacher, if you don't teach them, they will also discover such and it may only take them a little while, no one brings in something from heaven, we are all taught about everything we do here and nothing than through learning, it may now be through a conscious or unconscious means we acquire all we learnt about gambling and children are most faster in learning new things.
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October 19, 2023, 10:41:11 PM
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I think a good risk taker is a good gambler for sure. No doubt about gambling inbuilt in kids because it is a masculine inclination to be competitive both for ego, for women, for rights.
 It is natural to want to prove how right one is to close people who doubt our ability. It is only more creative to have channeled such urge to be right to bet on football or games or outcomes of events, just to win and feel good about being right.
Think about it, what's the concept behind gambling if not that the right predictions win the rewards in total?

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I think kids tends to learn more from what they see, hear and I general, from their environment. In our society today, we see children of younger ages doing stuffs that even the adults might be scared to go about. Gambling is something that anyone can pick up from anywhere. Addiction is what we end up falling into. Disabling adverts showing gambling, won't stop a child whom his father gambles alot from gambling. The best thing is for the parents to advice their kids on the consequences of being addicted to gambling and why they shouldn't involve them selfs. Just like smoking, stealing or other negative habits can be herited, gambling also can be passed on.

You are right to some extent just as you said and I quote that kids tends to learn more from what they see and hear and that is the basis because even if a child seeing their parents gambling but is not aware of what gambling is about you will see that even if they wish to do what there parents are doing they may not have that zeal but if they are being publicize then they might feel that for it being publicize that there may be some benefits attached to it thereby they might start developing time and interest to know how it works, so one way or the other, gambling ads also aid in developing the interest of the child since they are easily deceived and convinced by what they see and hear











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October 19, 2023, 10:56:13 PM
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The Australian Government once said about abolishing gambling ads as a means of reducing gambling activities amongst underage people. But, I think they'll be no successful way of stopping young people from gambling. As it's in them. Most articles here also say things like gambling addiction being hereditary. That means gambling can be hereditary as well. Because I just watched from a distant two kids below 10 years, staking bets, after a long argument about who the artiste of a specific song is. They later staked close to 40 cents each, for the person who gets the answer right. Then they went ahead to verify. And I lost sight of them. I thought about, how come or who thought these kids about betting money during a long argument. I was able to memorize, back when I was a kid. We easily said, how much would you bet if it turns out I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"
The pattern of gambling as giving here by op is a normal life style that you can equally find it with people that don't have a clue about what in-land or online gambling is all about, it's just a way of trying to back up your claims in an argument and if this is what gambling about then we won't be having the reckless increase of gambling addicts on the street of Vegas and other places in the world. Real gambling is beyond that, and it's true that it's innate in humans to quickly want to attach money to arguments because we know money value.

On the other hand, government have been up and doing to an appreciable length in reducing the explosion of gambling with it's ads advertisement in almost in every online site you batch in, and this has been the reason why kids without difficulty get to know about gambling. Even as an adult I some times get upset with the manner at which gambling are spread in every site I clicked distorting my attention to what I earlier had in mind and if you're not disciplined you can easily lose attention and deviate.
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October 19, 2023, 11:00:54 PM
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To some gambling might be inbuilt but to me it’s not it took me time to learn how to make predictions of games and understand the code and how they are being put into use some people might have just know them without learning but to me I have to learn them by asking question and doing some research.

It’s only some games which don’t requires one to have skill before they can partake on it that I believe they really don’t need learning it as anyone who have little knowledge about childhood play can play them games like dice rolling slot and sometimes those random number generator games they don’t need to be learned.

But for one to be a full gambler their are some games you just don’t know about them like that you need to learn them in other for you to start playing and increasing your chance of winning in that game.

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They still have to watch someone to know where will they do it. The urge to gamble is always there for everyone, they just need a little push in order to do it on their own. Without watching anyone, I think the youth, or everyone in general, will have a hard time figuring things out on themselves. They don't have the innate knowledge on how or where to gamble, but they sure know that gambling nets them with something if they win.

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October 19, 2023, 11:31:13 PM
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If you say that something cannot be avoided because it is considered innate and hereditary, this invalidates majority of the people who have a negative background in their lives who changed for the better. In addition, this also invalidates the efforts of the people who changed their lives as you are stating that a person cannot change because it is within their bloodline- like that is their future.

Even iff a person came from a family background of gamblers, the former still has the discretion and option whether to continue it or not. In addition, the efforts of the Australian government to abolish gambling ads is welcomed- any kind of support and help to reduce gambling activities from minors is a welcomed and appreciated.
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