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Author Topic: I think gambling is inbuilt, kids don't learn it anywhere, they do it!  (Read 1459 times)
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October 19, 2023, 11:46:55 PM
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I remember when I was still a kid and when and my friends any sport that we played, there was always that challenge to each other about betting. Yeah, pennies and small amounts only or even some toys on the stake. You're right that the kids have been doing that ever since without our knowledge because even us, we've done it in the past. Still, parental guidance is needed for these kids to let them understand the dangers of gambling when they're not yet grown up and they've become used to it. That should be the goal of every parents, and to let them know that when they used to it, that becomes an addiction and when it becomes an addiction, that's hard to control and they might do things that will make them ruin themselves for like when they get refused by their parents when they ask money, it might result to them having tantrums.

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October 19, 2023, 11:48:36 PM
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Hereditary? No. Traditional, I might agree.

There are still kids whose fathers and grandfathers are gambling and yet they won't make a stake like that even if another kid will challenge him. They don't like risk, they don't want to put their money on the line so they won't agree with those kinds of provocation.
Advertisements do work in boosting one business and I think the Australian government's aim is just to minimize the number of kids that are being exposed to gambling by means of those advertisements either in the popular streaming services or Android and iPhone applications. Sure, it looks like it doesn't work but it's too early to say that, it's a process, and they cannot just obliterate a habit that had been traditionally exposed in the environment in one decree.
I think it will work, it just needs patience and time. They just want a better place for their future and it's good that they are doing it by steps and not forcing their way which could cause chaos.

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October 19, 2023, 11:53:09 PM
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From your topic title alone I find fault in it and I don't agree. Allow me to state categorically that there is nothing that is inbuilt in any human we all learnt it through rewards and punishments. Why underaged kids gamble these days more often than before is because of how liberal our society has become with casinos. Kids are no longer cautioned or prevented from it and their are pressures from all over for them to engage in it or be left out. They choose the former because it makes them look cool. Gambling is not inbuilt. It is never in our DNA . It was learned.

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October 20, 2023, 12:19:36 AM
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As humans, we like to commended or preferably rewarded occasionally for being correct with a guess or prediction and it is on this attributes that gambling platforms have leveraged on to make a business that will serve as a form of entertainment and also give the players a chance to be rewarded for the right bets.

I agree that gambling is inbuilt @OP.

Gambling itself is not bad, it is the addiction that is bad. People are mostly advised about it because it is loose control to and easy to get addicted to.

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October 20, 2023, 12:48:51 AM
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[...] I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"
These are small habits learned from the adults around them. Unlike hereditary conditions like diabetes, gambling is a habit cultivated from a young age. A child can only mimic what the adults do in front of them. The more a child absorbs, the more they put into practice, including betting.

The encouragement to "let's bet it" is a common seed for why young people become addicted to gambling. It's a habit that makes them feel like they can conquer anything and anyone. When they win, they get their rewards, which become the driving force for further wagers.

However, the teenage environment can potentially eliminate their gambling habits, as demonstrated in my community. It all depends on how a young person interprets each win: whether it's just for fun among friends or for amusement at the expense of their peers' suffering. If it's rooted in friendship, I believe it won't become a lifelong habit, as I see it as another variation in games with close friends.
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October 20, 2023, 12:58:30 AM
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It is not gambling which is being learned but taking the risk inspite of the consequences. Gambling comes second once or as the child grows up being aware of how money is being used. They won’t instantly know how gambling works if they won’t see anyone doing it. Even with cartoons they would indirectly see its concept then will eventually associate it with things such as with proving things and using a bet as a support to their claim, and so fort. It is a bad thing indeed but we just canot control every environment they would be exposed of; we just guide them on their way as they grow up. Learned things can be unlearned or remastered.
This is the reality sad truth. These days, gambling is more accessible and easy to do, especially in the environment we have, it's easy for kids to get introduced to gambling. Gambling is everywhere already. That's why it's really good for the government will start to step in just to minimize gambling exposure to minors or just proper education for the majority.
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October 20, 2023, 01:02:08 AM
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The Australian Government once said about abolishing gambling ads as a means of reducing gambling activities amongst underage people. But, I think they'll be no successful way of stopping young people from gambling. As it's in them. Most articles here also say things like gambling addiction being hereditary. That means gambling can be hereditary as well. Because I just watched from a distant two kids below 10 years, staking bets, after a long argument about who the artiste of a specific song is. They later staked close to 40 cents each, for the person who gets the answer right. Then they went ahead to verify. And I lost sight of them. I thought about, how come or who thought these kids about betting money during a long argument. I was able to memorize, back when I was a kid. We easily said, how much would you bet if it turns out I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"

When I was a child, I also challenged my friends a lot with that typical phrase: "I'll bet with you... on a certain thing".
However, at that time the bets were always some sweets, the loan of a toy or even the completion of a challenge, it was never a bet involving money.

The problem nowadays is not exactly gambling among children, but rather the fact that they are "learning" from a very early age that all that matters in this life is "making money". They no longer see life with the objective of being happy, nowadays life teaches them from an early age that it is necessary to earn money to have a future. That's the problem.

Banning gambling helps, don't say otherwise, at least it makes fewer children enter the world of gambling at an early age. However, this also depends on what the world in which she lives is like.

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October 20, 2023, 02:49:52 AM
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Addiction isn't hereditary like diabetics but the environment where they grew up is probably the factor that led them into that way.

I have that understanding too about how environment can easily influence children to do what they normally are not suppose to do. I wonder if the children of a wealthy man would say lets bet on it, like where would they learn that from? But children of ghetto are easily seeing all sorts of negative influence which becomes part of them till adulthood.

It is the environment that shapes people majorly in regards to social activities and influence, I don't think genes has a connection to gambling but the point is when the children sees the action of the parents, they learn either the good or the good aspect of what they see.

It's always the people surrounding the kids and the environment where they can easily learn all this stuff. Kids who live in the coastal marshes learn to swim as early as possible than those who live in the city whose opportunity to swim is just in the pools.

Kids living in a neighborhood filled with gamblers where the word "bet" is often spoken. They easily learn it even if their parents are not into it because kids bet against each other using the cards they collect. It's part of the games they play these days.


Moreso, if you live in some rural areas, there are some words used in those places including activities that you don't find in urban centers. I'm aware that some couples decide to relocate as soon as they are married and start bearing children because they don't want the kids to socialize in certain areas as a result of what they don't want the kids to imbibe.

Take for instance, rolling of dice and card games are the most common games of P2P betting in local areas and kids in such areas are more likely to pick such betting from their pairs. In schools of such areas, break time is to exhibit different vices that students easily learn from one another.

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I agree, this kind of betting seems inborn. I think even our ancestors are involved in this kind of settling disagreements and arguments. But this is a different kind of gambling. This is not gambling in casinos or betting on sports. I don't think the love of gambling in casinos is inborn. It is developed. But to offer something valuable against another person's valuable possession whenever a disagreement over something arises is probably as old as humanity.
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The Australian Government once said about abolishing gambling ads as a means of reducing gambling activities amongst underage people. But, I think they'll be no successful way of stopping young people from gambling. As it's in them. Most articles here also say things like gambling addiction being hereditary. That means gambling can be hereditary as well. Because I just watched from a distant two kids below 10 years, staking bets, after a long argument about who the artiste of a specific song is. They later staked close to 40 cents each, for the person who gets the answer right. Then they went ahead to verify. And I lost sight of them. I thought about, how come or who thought these kids about betting money during a long argument. I was able to memorize, back when I was a kid. We easily said, how much would you bet if it turns out I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"


Is there any study which proves that gambling nature in human? I have read one of the replies here, and I agree with he have mentioned. He said that it is not more of a concept of gambling, but rather it's about the emotions that we feel when we are taking risks. In my opinions, I refuse to believe that their people who are born gamblers, because for me, gambling is learned. And there are a lot of factors that might contribute why someone or even a kid would resort to gambling. It can be influenced by environmental factors, social factors, and economic factors. Because I believe that if a kid was not exposed to gambling, then he/she will not know gambling in the first place. It can be also about personal factors like being curious about it, and then try it later on. Because it is a human nature to seek for thrills and excitement. Moreover, there are more factors about this such as peer pressure, or they have seen it with their parents, or even in the community they belong. With all of these being said, I firmly believe that gambling is not inbuilt, rather it is something that we learn.



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October 20, 2023, 05:36:15 AM
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Do you know that it's good for someone who is underage not to participate in gambling but right now many people who is in gambling do participate in gambling just like that, which is not good, I don't know the reason children will engage in gambling, children participating in gambling is bad and it will lead to stealing, but I know that it will be very difficult for government to whoever that is onto gambling because gambling now is something you can be in home and gamble and it will be difficult for government to track whoever that gamble and know their age, I think this is one of the reasons why some gambling platform demands for KYC of their customers, I think with your ID card the gambling platform can denotes if you are underage or not.

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I remember when I was still a kid and when and my friends any sport that we played, there was always that challenge to each other about betting. Yeah, pennies and small amounts only or even some toys on the stake. You're right that the kids have been doing that ever since without our knowledge because even us, we've done it in the past. Still, parental guidance is needed for these kids to let them understand the dangers of gambling when they're not yet grown up and they've become used to it. That should be the goal of every parents, and to let them know that when they used to it, that becomes an addiction and when it becomes an addiction, that's hard to control and they might do things that will make them ruin themselves for like when they get refused by their parents when they ask money, it might result to them having tantrums.
I think money is easily learned about by kids at very early ages. "You can buy this but you cannot buy this" can be enough for kid to learn how money works. So its normal they try to get money of their friend. I also think gaming is brainwired. So they can associate money to their games easily. It can start with "I win your money if I win the game". This is literally stone age version of gambling so. In summary I believe kids would be into gambling if they like games for sure. Its impossible for kids to not get familiar to concept of money as well.
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The Australian Government once said about abolishing gambling ads as a means of reducing gambling activities amongst underage people. But, I think they'll be no successful way of stopping young people from gambling. As it's in them. Most articles here also say things like gambling addiction being hereditary. That means gambling can be hereditary as well. Because I just watched from a distant two kids below 10 years, staking bets, after a long argument about who the artiste of a specific song is. They later staked close to 40 cents each, for the person who gets the answer right. Then they went ahead to verify. And I lost sight of them. I thought about, how come or who thought these kids about betting money during a long argument. I was able to memorize, back when I was a kid. We easily said, how much would you bet if it turns out I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"

1.It's true that some people are genetically more responsive towards addictions. Their brains react in a different way and it's easier for them to become addicted. This is a very long topic and I don't want to dive in. I'm no expect in psychology.
2.I've also heard kids saying "let's bet it" multiple times. That doesn't necessarily mean that they will become active gamblers when they grow up. They've probably seen their dads betting somewhere and they try to copy this behavior(or they saw people gambling in movies or TV series). I don't believe that gambling is embedded in our minds since we are born.

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If gambling ads are banned and kids do not see such a thing, this will reduce the way kids are gambling. In my country as an example, there are gambling ads everywhere, on YouTube and TV channels, in a way kids can easily know that they can go online to gamble. It is true that gambling is in the mind of humans naturally, but the explanation of the kids that you explained is different from the land based and online gambling because there is nio way that can lead to addiction.
Or better yet, a better parenting because these external factors will always expose the kid to the things that any parents fear the most, no matter how protective you are, the best thing that you should do is to teach your kid the stuff that they need to know and the consequences of doing the actions, yes gambling would be difficult to explain but at the least you can probably find a way to talk to them about stuff. Teach them to think for themselves, basic morality and decency and dignity should be honed at an early age, I mean I've grown up with close to what I've said and look at me, I didn't stray too far on to the right path.
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October 20, 2023, 07:34:53 AM
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It's good for parent to snif their noses in their children's business, and do not turn into tiger parenting because they will be scared d of you and start hiding stuffs from you, just know what they are up to and if gambling is part of what they are planning to do, relax and guide them right, it's better than raising alarm on them, this is something that has everything to do with the mind, so carefully let them know what's up with gambling.

If you use force it won't work, they will hide their plans from you and still engage in gambling at your back, I don't want my children to be into gambling at all, it will cause a heart break if they do, but the only way forward is to make them realize the true facts about gambling, and I already have a good plan for this, if it happens.

Gambling at a very young age is not a good thing, the feeling of you doing the right thing while been foolish will consume you, becoming an addict to gambling is a thing but becoming a young gambling addict is not good, the level of desperation at that small age could trigger some things that a old gambling addicts won't want to do.

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October 20, 2023, 08:11:56 AM
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So what's the solution? you're only explain why the abolishing of gambling ads will not prevent kids to gamble which is correct, but there's no further action against that situation.

You need to know if betting and gambling are different, betting can be played without money while gambling needs money. "Betting" is really common for kids because it's fun, usually they have a challenge with punishment or reward e.g. there are 4 people who play UNO, the loser would be punched by the winners.

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Addiction isn't hereditary like diabetics but the environment where they grew up is probably the factor that led them into that way.

I have that understanding too about how environment can easily influence children to do what they normally are not suppose to do. I wonder if the children of a wealthy man would say lets bet on it, like where would they learn that from? But children of ghetto are easily seeing all sorts of negative influence which becomes part of them till adulthood.

It is the environment that shapes people majorly in regards to social activities and influence, I don't think genes has a connection to gambling but the point is when the children sees the action of the parents, they learn either the good or the good aspect of what they see.

It's always the people surrounding the kids and the environment where they can easily learn all this stuff. Kids who live in the coastal marshes learn to swim as early as possible than those who live in the city whose opportunity to swim is just in the pools.

Kids living in a neighborhood filled with gamblers where the word "bet" is often spoken. They easily learn it even if their parents are not into it because kids bet against each other using the cards they collect. It's part of the games they play these days.


Moreso, if you live in some rural areas, there are some words used in those places including activities that you don't find in urban centers. I'm aware that some couples decide to relocate as soon as they are married and start bearing children because they don't want the kids to socialize in certain areas as a result of what they don't want the kids to imbibe.

Take for instance, rolling of dice and card games are the most common games of P2P betting in local areas and kids in such areas are more likely to pick such betting from their pairs. In schools of such areas, break time is to exhibit different vices that students easily learn from one another.

Definitely. Just less than a mile from where I live when I was a kid is a place known for gambling. As a kid I save my lunch money just so I could play there.

Although I rarely see my father gamble, I 'm already interested on what he do since they seem to be happy laughing with his friends while gambling. We kids find it comforting we do what our fathers do. I took his way of doing things even his smoking habit. Not really heriditary but we must have feel proud during that time we copy them.

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The Australian Government once said about abolishing gambling ads as a means of reducing gambling activities amongst underage people. But, I think they'll be no successful way of stopping young people from gambling. As it's in them. Most articles here also say things like gambling addiction being hereditary. That means gambling can be hereditary as well. Because I just watched from a distant two kids below 10 years, staking bets, after a long argument about who the artiste of a specific song is. They later staked close to 40 cents each, for the person who gets the answer right. Then they went ahead to verify. And I lost sight of them. I thought about, how come or who thought these kids about betting money during a long argument. I was able to memorize, back when I was a kid. We easily said, how much would you bet if it turns out I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"

OK, I really understand what you are saying in this thread, there are several points that are interesting to me. So, let's flashback to when I was a child or teenager. When I was little, we didn't have cell phones, sophisticated games, or anything like that. However, there are many traditional games that we can play. either as a group, or one to one. In every game, we usually bet something. something is random, we can bet on the toys we have, or the loser will be punished. can run a few kilometers, or so on. When I was a teenager, I liked football. we seem to play just for entertainment, have fun with it, and spend a lot of time with our peers.

However, there are times when we will compete with other groups, other villages, or other schools, usually if there is an invitation to a match, it will always involve betting.  because at that time we were starting to grow up, money was a medium for betting.  at this point, no one taught us betting or gambling terms. but we did that, to increase our enthusiasm and excitement for playing and at the same time show that the team we have is great. In short, when I was little, cellphones weren't even available yet, by the time I was a teenager, cellphones and the internet were a luxury. In fact, even if there is a casino, to visit it we have to go miles away. 

This thread reminds me of the past. plus, and also want to clarify the first point you said in this thread. It's true, gambling has been around since we were little. taught or not, gradually we will know or get involved in simple betting and can reach the stage of playing in the casino. It's just that, I want to say a little from the first point you said. imagine, if the government just left it like that, without eliminating advertising, education, etc., what would happen next. However, even though such regulations have been implemented, they are still unable to stop it. At this point, I just want to clarify, the duty of the state as carried out by the Australian government, at least, is that they are trying to do their best to prevent children from being exposed to gambling at an early age.
although if we refer to my case or most people, without having to be taught we are used to such things.

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October 20, 2023, 09:16:53 AM
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No one would have thought that children could bet on such small things. It's like us when we were children where we often gathered and played with our friends. We can bet like them on small things that might not seem like gambling even though we are gambling. Maybe the difference is that when we were children, there were no technological advances like now where we still do physical activities more often than today's children who do more non-physical activities. Today's children are more busy with their devices connected to the internet, making it easier for them to see whatever they want. So it is not surprising that we can see some children saying let's bet easily even in front of adults. Those who are adults also never think that they are gambling and let them play with their friends.

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October 20, 2023, 09:35:51 AM
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The Australian Government once said about abolishing gambling ads as a means of reducing gambling activities amongst underage people. But, I think they'll be no successful way of stopping young people from gambling. As it's in them. Most articles here also say things like gambling addiction being hereditary. That means gambling can be hereditary as well. Because I just watched from a distant two kids below 10 years, staking bets, after a long argument about who the artiste of a specific song is. They later staked close to 40 cents each, for the person who gets the answer right. Then they went ahead to verify. And I lost sight of them. I thought about, how come or who thought these kids about betting money during a long argument. I was able to memorize, back when I was a kid. We easily said, how much would you bet if it turns out I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"
Very well composed bud, and I perfectly understand the angle you are coming, and I definitely agree with you, if thought about deeply and critically, we will understand that gambling is linked to argument. This is like two or more people arguing about the possible outcome of something. This is exactly what gambling is all about, the only thing today is that everything is now digitalized that we no longer have to do the argue and bet manually.

I remember some time some years back, when there was a match being played between two teams, people cheering will argue and placed bet on which team they think will win the match, this bet will be done manually and the money given to someone there to hold till the end of the match, and after the match is finished, the money will be given to the person who predicted the score right.

But all the same, digitalization has changed everything, today, we no longer have to argue and bet openly like before, we do it online these days.

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