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November 10, 2023, 03:04:58 PM
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And in this case we can't do anything and have to accept it because technological developments can change anything significantly. And those who play the most role in preventing our children from getting involved in gambling are parents who must always pay attention to their children when using gadgets and playing with anyone, and not carry out gambling activities in front of their children.
Technology development has brought us good and bad influences at a young age. But as we can see, too sad that even kids know about gambling at a very young age due to ads everywhere which is not supposed to happen. I couldn't blame the actions/response of the government but it was too late already what these gambling companies had done already. Even the government will forced to ban ads but since they still allow gambling in their place or country, these kids will find and learn it.

This is sad for the current technological development and needs to be paid attention to. Sometimes, it is beneficial, but its downside is alarming. We cannot stand by and accept it. The government needs to intervene and strictly manage. Even parents should supervise their children themselves. We know that children cannot fully understand the harmful effects of gambling.
What do you think about children becoming addicted? They will steal money from their family and practice lying. And when they get into trouble as teenagers, what will their future be like?

You cannot ask that from a government,a TV,radio or Internet web,they all want your money starting from the government to get your taxes and to the very least of them.What comes out as a collective duty for all of us who are parents is that we need to be extremely careful in educating our children in the best way we can without limiting that much the use of technology which in our time is an absolute must in order to be successful in life.

As long as we are careful in educating our children,nothing will go and precipitate like stealing money from us or keep lying,it is all upon us,the parents,not on the government or any other private entity.

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November 10, 2023, 03:55:09 PM
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What you say is very real, in fact there are many threads that talk about this topic here in the forum, but it is always good to emphasize something that I have Always said that when you enter a casino you should always put at risk the money you are Willing to lose, because beyond that it is dangerous, you should never put at risk money that is already planned for something else, because that is where the problems begin, that is why the game is considered a game for flatters, because we have the responsibility to do things well and in a good way, there is no other way, it is obligatory to do it, in the case that we talk about the issue where even children do it, I think that this is a parental assignment, and I respect that you are looking forward to gregualr the activity. of your son, because it is obvious that things can go out of control, I can think that when we emphasize the degree of high information that our children receive on TV, well, it is something that could be confusing, but in the case Whether a child has access to the Internet is another matter.

Sometimes parents leave their Child's cell phone in order to have a quiet moment, without disturbing them and without them being entertained , but we must be aware that if we do not serve them, things can get out of control and can have very ugly consequences. , for that reason I always encourage parents to supervise them, in fact thanks to this topic , I investigated an app called family link, but I don't like it very much anymore, because they have a lot of privacy towards their children, and this is not a good thing. , I know the case of children who have killed even for getting into games like free fire, where sick people are found where they are threatened with death and made to do many things, this is what I call being something Irresponsible with our Children, and Just as it Happens in that game, they can easily enter a casino and launder any parent's credit card.
A parent's job is to guide their children not to do things that could have a bad impact on their lives when they grow up. They also don't need to be introduced to something that can make them curious, especially if it could have a bad impact on them later because teaching what is good for them it will also provide something good for them. Children nowadays, just by seeing what adults do, can do it without anyone teaching them, so this is actually a warning to adults to be more careful in doing things. If there are bad consequences, adults shouldn't do it yet and wait for the children to leave so they don't see it. Apart from that, these children can get information from the internet easily and without their parents knowing.

Be careful to leave parents cellphones behind if they are going out and make sure they are locked so that their children cannot use them. Once these children get the freedom to use a cell phone, they will start looking for what they want, and if they get a chance to use a cell phone, they will continue to do what they have not found. And it is true what you say that children can do something bad if they are left alone by their parents and there are already many cases of crimes committed by children so this can increase if parents do not provide supervision over their children. Parents have an increasingly difficult task in supervising their children because they need to adapt their abilities in using devices and that is not easy for parents. In contrast, for their children, they can do it easily.

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November 11, 2023, 09:27:00 AM
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correct mate, it is not hereditary not unless their family is engaging in gambling day by day then that might be considered as hereditarian but not in ours yet my brother still gamble .

When OP said "inbuilt" or people in this thread were saying "hereditary", it wasn't to say that some family members of the kid that started gambling all of a sudden were gamblers. Rather it was about all humankind. It's in our genes to gamble, it's our basic Instinct. But in the modern world we should learn to fight our basic instincts, because the world has changed a lot over the last 10 thousand years.

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November 15, 2023, 01:26:10 PM
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What you say is very real, in fact there are many threads that talk about this topic here in the forum, but it is always good to emphasize something that I have Always said that when you enter a casino you should always put at risk the money you are Willing to lose, because beyond that it is dangerous, you should never put at risk money that is already planned for something else, because that is where the problems begin, that is why the game is considered a game for flatters, because we have the responsibility to do things well and in a good way, there is no other way, it is obligatory to do it, in the case that we talk about the issue where even children do it, I think that this is a parental assignment, and I respect that you are looking forward to gregualr the activity. of your son, because it is obvious that things can go out of control, I can think that when we emphasize the degree of high information that our children receive on TV, well, it is something that could be confusing, but in the case Whether a child has access to the Internet is another matter.

Sometimes parents leave their Child's cell phone in order to have a quiet moment, without disturbing them and without them being entertained , but we must be aware that if we do not serve them, things can get out of control and can have very ugly consequences. , for that reason I always encourage parents to supervise them, in fact thanks to this topic , I investigated an app called family link, but I don't like it very much anymore, because they have a lot of privacy towards their children, and this is not a good thing. , I know the case of children who have killed even for getting into games like free fire, where sick people are found where they are threatened with death and made to do many things, this is what I call being something Irresponsible with our Children, and Just as it Happens in that game, they can easily enter a casino and launder any parent's credit card.
A parent's job is to guide their children not to do things that could have a bad impact on their lives when they grow up. They also don't need to be introduced to something that can make them curious, especially if it could have a bad impact on them later because teaching what is good for them it will also provide something good for them. Children nowadays, just by seeing what adults do, can do it without anyone teaching them, so this is actually a warning to adults to be more careful in doing things. If there are bad consequences, adults shouldn't do it yet and wait for the children to leave so they don't see it. Apart from that, these children can get information from the internet easily and without their parents knowing.

Be careful to leave parents cellphones behind if they are going out and make sure they are locked so that their children cannot use them. Once these children get the freedom to use a cell phone, they will start looking for what they want, and if they get a chance to use a cell phone, they will continue to do what they have not found. And it is true what you say that children can do something bad if they are left alone by their parents and there are already many cases of crimes committed by children so this can increase if parents do not provide supervision over their children. Parents have an increasingly difficult task in supervising their children because they need to adapt their abilities in using devices and that is not easy for parents. In contrast, for their children, they can do it easily.

Currently, children can do many things, among them they can generate many things such as the curiosity that awakens and children, whatever they are, can become and know what they can think of in knowing the Internet , anything is what they can do. They can Access it, the information is there, and there are some parents who, in order to have free time or to rest, release their cell phones so that they can play and start playing online, so in this order of teachings we must be very careful with that, first You know that when they are in a technological device they will learn to master it very quickly, or they will take a long time to do it , from this we can know that it is very easy for them even if they do not know how to read that they Access sites that they should not think about, not only because of the abuse of the asino, or that they can spend the credit card, but they can access prohibited sites Pornography or things like that, Where they are things that they should not see, nor are they old enough to see it.

This is the care that we as parents have to have for our children, it is sometimes very difficult to control the children of others, with whom they generally see, in schools or places like that, because we can be the most careful parents of the world , but others don't, others may not give it the attention that we do, and those children teach our children what they saw to try, so there is only one possibility of what can happen, by being with it then we can say u2e things can be wonderful if all parents have the commitment to control everything for the Children, so that later they will not be children who know too much and who say things or do things that are Prohibited in front of others, because that is not for It's their fault, they blame the parents who allowed them to access Something like that , this is delicate when it comes to children , you can't do much when they are Completely Immersed in a digital world where they are very experts.

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November 15, 2023, 01:42:30 PM
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There is no hereditary in gambling rather we can say human being is of a gambling nature, before when there were no means of trade from the old time people were doing trade by barter this was formal way of gambling either you give what you have to get what you want. Gambling has been in existence since the creation of man till date, what just happened is that it was only modernized in way whereby you have your cash at handle to exchange what you wanted, no matter how we try to paraphrase the whole matter kids and people can never stops gambling because it's in human nature. Typical example of gambling is; in a classroom a teacher would decide have a teste among his pupils and whomever gets the correct answer wins the money or to whatever that is being proposed as the prize, this alone is a gambling and who wins definitely get the prize this is a gambling.


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November 15, 2023, 04:40:11 PM
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You cannot ask that from a government,a TV,radio or Internet web,they all want your money starting from the government to get your taxes and to the very least of them.What comes out as a collective duty for all of us who are parents is that we need to be extremely careful in educating our children in the best way we can without limiting that much the use of technology which in our time is an absolute must in order to be successful in life.

As long as we are careful in educating our children,nothing will go and precipitate like stealing money from us or keep lying,it is all upon us,the parents,not on the government or any other private entity.
In this era of advanced technology, we do not blame or ask any media to stop advertising or anything related to gambling because they also get income from these advertisements or promotions and regarding minors, it is actually the parents' duty to provide appropriate education for them always provide insight into the dangers of gambling and as parents it is the responsibility of their children's future so we as parents must have full awareness of this problem.

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November 15, 2023, 05:45:56 PM
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There is no hereditary in gambling rather we can say human being is of a gambling nature, before when there were no means of trade from the old time people were doing trade by barter this was formal way of gambling either you give what you have to get what you want. Gambling has been in existence since the creation of man till date, what just happened is that it was only modernized in way whereby you have your cash at handle to exchange what you wanted, no matter how we try to paraphrase the whole matter kids and people can never stops gambling because it's in human nature. Typical example of gambling is; in a classroom a teacher would decide have a teste among his pupils and whomever gets the correct answer wins the money or to whatever that is being proposed as the prize, this alone is a gambling and who wins definitely get the prize this is a gambling.
As you said, gambling is engrained in human nature, reflecting our risk-taking and reward-seeking character. However, comparing barter or a school quiz to gambling may be reaching. True, they both include risk and reward, but they are mentally different from gambling. Trade aims to benefit both parties equally. Gambling has more unclear outcomes, generally favoring one party over the other.

Take the classroom example. Gambling or learning incentives? The teacher wants to motivate kids with prizes, not gambling. Here, the 'risk' isnt financial loss but the challenge of acquiring knowledge.

How we perceive and manage danger in daily life may be the issue. Perhaps promoting a healthy risk-taking mentality is more important than eliminating gambling-like activities. Instead than classifying human behaviors as gambling, encouraging responsible decision-making in finance, education, and leisure may be better.

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November 16, 2023, 07:29:01 AM
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Currently, children can do many things, among them they can generate many things such as the curiosity that awakens and children, whatever they are, can become and know what they can think of in knowing the Internet , anything is what they can do. They can Access it, the information is there, and there are some parents who, in order to have free time or to rest, release their cell phones so that they can play and start playing online, so in this order of teachings we must be very careful with that, first You know that when they are in a technological device they will learn to master it very quickly, or they will take a long time to do it , from this we can know that it is very easy for them even if they do not know how to read that they Access sites that they should not think about, not only because of the abuse of the asino, or that they can spend the credit card, but they can access prohibited sites Pornography or things like that, Where they are things that they should not see, nor are they old enough to see it.

This is the care that we as parents have to have for our children, it is sometimes very difficult to control the children of others, with whom they generally see, in schools or places like that, because we can be the most careful parents of the world , but others don't, others may not give it the attention that we do, and those children teach our children what they saw to try, so there is only one possibility of what can happen, by being with it then we can say u2e things can be wonderful if all parents have the commitment to control everything for the Children, so that later they will not be children who know too much and who say things or do things that are Prohibited in front of others, because that is not for It's their fault, they blame the parents who allowed them to access Something like that , this is delicate when it comes to children , you can't do much when they are Completely Immersed in a digital world where they are very experts.
Children living in this day and age are truly lucky because they get various facilities that can make their lives easier. But unfortunately, this is not accompanied by supervision from their parents or the adults around them so many children are involved in serious problems which ultimately cause them to become addicted to gambling, alcohol, or even get involved in other illegal things. This is really sad because with the increase in the family's standard of living, while the parents can earn a decent income, they cannot supervise their children well. Instead, the parents are increasingly busy with their work on the grounds that they are looking for money for their children. When children are given devices that can make it easier for them to get more useful information, their children misuse them by doing things that are inappropriate for these children. This is why every parent must be alert to the development of their children because children can easily understand things without needing to be taught by their parents and they can even ask their friends or look for more information with their friends.

This is where parents need to be concerned about their children and always monitor their children's activities so that they don't take the wrong path, which could cause them to get involved in negative things. The parent's task is not easy because they also have to learn to understand what their children are doing and guide them well. Maybe parents don't control their children every day, but parents can ask other people, such as teachers or other family members, to help supervise their children. Parents also need to get closer to their children and always ask how they are doing, both at school, socially and in their surrounding environment. By always trying to get closer to their children, an emotional relationship will be established between parents and their children so that it will help parents and children to understand each other.

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November 16, 2023, 08:18:22 AM
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In this era of advanced technology, we do not blame or ask any media to stop advertising or anything related to gambling because they also get income from these advertisements or promotions and regarding minors, it is actually the parents' duty to provide appropriate education for them always provide insight into the dangers of gambling and as parents it is the responsibility of their children's future so we as parents must have full awareness of this problem.
Advertisment is something some other person make a living from and it's aswell regulated by a body or an agency in every country or region, and when some advertisment are been made, they are usually indicated to be +18 which indicates that it's for adults and viewer discretion is usually advised and parental guidance is usually advised aswell.

Provided these regulatory bodies approves these advertisment as fit for public view while indicating the required discretion and the age range it's suitable with, I think these adverts will continually be displayed on various screen regardless, except nin regions where it's considered against public safety then it could be stop but then it's usually regulated most of the times,. So in cases as this it's mostly the parents that should checked on their kids and help them avoid all these habits till they get eligible for it.

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November 16, 2023, 08:20:32 AM
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I fully agree that gambling addiction and desire to start gambling is inbuilt, but it is triggered by excessive curiosity. By its nature, children are copy of their parents and copy everything they do. But they are very selective. They dont copy everything, but copy only what is more easy, fun or easy to learn. They dont repeat completely what their parents or relatives do. That is why it cant be said that they learn gambling after seeing adults gamble.

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correct mate, it is not hereditary not unless their family is engaging in gambling day by day then that might be considered as hereditarian but not in ours yet my brother still gamble .

When OP said "inbuilt" or people in this thread were saying "hereditary", it wasn't to say that some family members of the kid that started gambling all of a sudden were gamblers. Rather it was about all humankind. It's in our genes to gamble, it's our basic Instinct. But in the modern world we should learn to fight our basic instincts, because the world has changed a lot over the last 10 thousand years.
I Agree with you that it's all humankind and Gambling is in nature, especially now that we're living in a high technology time, everything that we want to know is accessible in the internet, mostly kids learned how to gamble because of social media advertisements just like today that there's a lot of ads with promising promotion and maybe out of curiosity they want to try how it works and how they can earn money just like what the advertisement say so. On the other hand, Some are saying that gambling is hereditary and I was once believer of that because if you knew someone who's addicted in a gambling, first thing you want to know is if his/her family participates in a Gambling activity too? if so, then it will affect the child, like a domino effect, possible that it will pass on from generation to generation.



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November 16, 2023, 12:09:00 PM
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I fully agree that gambling addiction and desire to start gambling is inbuilt, but it is triggered by excessive curiosity. By its nature, children are copy of their parents and copy everything they do. But they are very selective. They dont copy everything, but copy only what is more easy, fun or easy to learn. They dont repeat completely what their parents or relatives do. That is why it cant be said that they learn gambling after seeing adults gamble.
It's true that children have a very high sense of curiosity, that's why they are very susceptible to imitating anyone they see, whether it's their parents or people around them. Gambling doesn't only exist in online casinos or offline places, there are many types of gambling that are very popular. it is easy for people to play, so it makes children interested in gambling because to get something they have to bet.

Therefore, it is wrong if we forbid them to stay away from gambling because the more it is forbidden, the more curious they are and the higher their curiosity about gambling, so act like parents, let them ask what gambling is so that we can explain the dangers of gambling slowly, because prohibiting is not the right way. to keep children away from gambling because they can learn from anywhere.

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November 16, 2023, 12:25:51 PM
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correct mate, it is not hereditary not unless their family is engaging in gambling day by day then that might be considered as hereditarian but not in ours yet my brother still gamble .

When OP said "inbuilt" or people in this thread were saying "hereditary", it wasn't to say that some family members of the kid that started gambling all of a sudden were gamblers. Rather it was about all humankind. It's in our genes to gamble, it's our basic Instinct. But in the modern world we should learn to fight our basic instincts, because the world has changed a lot over the last 10 thousand years.
I agree, gambling is in our DNA. It's actually everywhere. From simply talking about something debating who will win a street fight, heads or tails, betting on a person who is on the brink of falling if he will fall or not, and more. Just like how we learned how corrupted this world is, I learned it when I was still a kid. Imagine someone giving you the change just because they want you to buy them something from the store which they are lazy to do. That's bribery and a part of corruption.
Hereditary or not, I think it has become a part of our life and now the increasing number of gambling sites and the ease of access might magnify that and we cannot really do anything to make our kids stay away from it. Somewhere in their life, they will bump into it and their innocence about it will be gone.
Especially now that kids are allowed to use the internet where lots of gambling ads are popping out if they run into something that is connected to it.
Like my kid who became a fan of Messi and Ronaldo, now there's a chance that sports betting sites will come in and I am trying to avoid that by checking their phones every day.

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November 16, 2023, 12:34:19 PM
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correct mate, it is not hereditary not unless their family is engaging in gambling day by day then that might be considered as hereditarian but not in ours yet my brother still gamble .

When OP said "inbuilt" or people in this thread were saying "hereditary", it wasn't to say that some family members of the kid that started gambling all of a sudden were gamblers. Rather it was about all humankind. It's in our genes to gamble, it's our basic Instinct. But in the modern world we should learn to fight our basic instincts, because the world has changed a lot over the last 10 thousand years.
I think I will say that our instinc is tilted towards how to make extra income. It is this quest that lead people into different activities. When the desire of having the power and confidence of our own funds dawn on anyone, he must start making efforts aimed at making money.

Gambling appears to be the favourite option of many because it requires little effort and resources to start and the potential is amazing. To start a business is not as easy as working up to a gambling shop or registering in a gambling site and start playing. People always go for the easier things which gambling stand as one.

Therefore, I will put it that no one is born with gambling traits or skills,  rather everyone is born with the inner quest for power and freedom and that is what having money actually gives.

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November 16, 2023, 12:37:18 PM
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In this era of advanced technology, we do not blame or ask any media to stop advertising or anything related to gambling because they also get income from these advertisements or promotions and regarding minors, it is actually the parents' duty to provide appropriate education for them always provide insight into the dangers of gambling and as parents it is the responsibility of their children's future so we as parents must have full awareness of this problem.
Advertisment is something some other person make a living from and it's aswell regulated by a body or an agency in every country or region, and when some advertisment are been made, they are usually indicated to be +18 which indicates that it's for adults and viewer discretion is usually advised and parental guidance is usually advised aswell.

Provided these regulatory bodies approves these advertisment as fit for public view while indicating the required discretion and the age range it's suitable with, I think these adverts will continually be displayed on various screen regardless, except nin regions where it's considered against public safety then it could be stop but then it's usually regulated most of the times,. So in cases as this it's mostly the parents that should checked on their kids and help them avoid all these habits till they get eligible for it.
Yes, that's true and in conclusion, advertising is not a big problem for minors, but it is the responsibility of parents to educate their children to provide positive insight every day and this must be done every day because it is not only advertising that can influence the minds of minors. but there are activities outside the home that definitely include gambling or other activities that make minors curious about gambling and as long as parents provide knowledge about the dangerous effects of gambling, a child will always be more likely to believe what their parents say and the future. Children depend on the efforts of their parents and cannot blame anyone or anything.

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November 16, 2023, 12:55:46 PM
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Most articles here also say things like gambling addiction being hereditary. That means gambling can be hereditary as well. Because I just watched from a distant two kids below 10 years, staking bets, after a long argument about who the artiste of a specific song is. They later staked close to 40 cents each, for the person who gets the answer right. Then they went ahead to verify. And I lost sight of them. I thought about, how come or who thought these kids about betting money during a long argument. I was able to memorize, back when I was a kid. We easily said, how much would you bet if it turns out I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans.
Gambling is in no way embedded in anybody's brain, and likewise it is not a hereditary factor, but it is what people/kids learn from the environment they find themselves, because most times parents fail to understand that kids while growing up learn very fast, and capture every bit of word we say and actions we exhibit while growing up, which proves that for these kids which O.P saw trying to bet to prove a point, may have saw people around such environment playing bet just to prove a point during arguments. So it's just not rocket science, and as such if we want our kids not to get involve in any gambling related activities, we just have to be mindful of the environment, the kinds of friends they keep and T.V shows they watch while in our absent.

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November 16, 2023, 01:11:13 PM
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The Australian Government once said about abolishing gambling ads as a means of reducing gambling activities amongst underage people. But, I think they'll be no successful way of stopping young people from gambling. As it's in them.
Gambling is not inbuilt, we are influenced by what we see and what we hear, so gambling is picked up by young people from the environment as they're growing up. It's a good move by the Australian government to stop the running of gambling ads, it may not stop it completely but for sure they're going to achieve some desirable results.

That means gambling can be hereditary as well. Because I just watched from a distant two kids below 10 years, staking bets, after a long argument about who the artiste of a specific song is. They later staked close to 40 cents each, for the person who gets the answer right. Then they went ahead to verify. And I lost sight of them.
Gambling hereditary? Where is the gene gotten from... Father, grand father, uncle? Nah, that's not true. Like I said earlier, gambling is learned. Those kids grew up in an environment where they got exposed at their early age and it doesn't necessarily have to be online. They could start with cards, ludo, draft, penalty shootout etc. 
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before when there were no means of trade from the old time people were doing trade by barter this was formal way of gambling either you give what you have to get what you want.
Giving what you have to get what you want is not gambling, that is called a trade, that is how we do it even today, we give what we have which is money, and we get what we want which is a thing or a service. The only difference is that thousands of years ago, people used to trade things for things instead of giving money and taking things because there used to be no currencies like today.

Typical example of gambling is; in a classroom a teacher would decide have a teste among his pupils and whomever gets the correct answer wins the money or to whatever that is being proposed as the prize, this alone is a gambling and who wins definitely get the prize this is a gambling.
I disagree again. You can't call that gambling, the students are not spending money or something valuable in return for that reward, they are simply answering a question to get a reward in return, that's not how gambling works, the students that don't answer the questions correctly will lose nothing but will gain nothing as well but in gambling.

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November 17, 2023, 07:40:50 AM
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Typical example of gambling is; in a classroom a teacher would decide have a teste among his pupils and whomever gets the correct answer wins the money or to whatever that is being proposed as the prize, this alone is a gambling and who wins definitely get the prize this is a gambling.
I disagree again. You can't call that gambling, the students are not spending money or something valuable in return for that reward, they are simply answering a question to get a reward in return, that's not how gambling works, the students that don't answer the questions correctly will lose nothing but will gain nothing as well but in gambling.

Totally agree, that isnt gambling, that is called motivation. If this was gambling, then work is also a gambling, where after doing tasks employee gets paid. It would be gambling, if students give that teacher money, plus the teacher will add money to bank, and who ever first answers questions correctly gets the prize.

I am curious if teachers even allowed to use money to motivate students or to use gambling method in teaching process.

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As you said, gambling is engrained in human nature, reflecting our risk-taking and reward-seeking character. However, comparing barter or a school quiz to gambling may be reaching. True, they both include risk and reward, but they are mentally different from gambling. Trade aims to benefit both parties equally. Gambling has more unclear outcomes, generally favoring one party over the other.

As human there is a natural behavior in us that always triggers the spirits of gambling such as the way op explained of him wondering how those children gets to know about betting amongst their two to know whom is to win ( who is right about arguments). If you look deeply there are much difference to what I said it all depends on reasoning and how we may see it from everyone's angle, those exercise I mentioned actually leads to gambling because interest are being developed.


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