[CLS][banned mixer] Mixer Review#2| 6mBTC+50% OFF | Bonus 10mBTC & 10% OFF for ALL!

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ABOUT THE CAMPAIGN
After successfully collecting the feedback from the review campaign#1, The /][banned mixer] management worked on their website and mixing mechanism to improve website functionality and user friendliness. Now it's time to collect feedback from the community to understand how this improvement is making effect for the mixer.

..Again, we require experienced mixer users, not just an average review with screenshots explaining the steps of mixing...

In this stage, we are seeking 20 (+2 additional^*) Bitcointalk members. You are required to test the service, including its website functionality. Please identify any competitive disadvantages and shortcomings in the functionality.

..Please pay some attention: .. For [banned mixer], it is important to get not only feedback about the system, but also real ideas for improving the service or comments on the functionality based on your experience with other services, to consider what is better in other services than [banned mixer]'s. [banned mixer] wants to make the best service with the help of the community, let's make the best mixer together with the Bitcointalk community!

^*Our winners from the review campaign#1 @Ratimov and @TryNinja. You will be invited separately by the team. You do not need to apply again. But since you already have the 50% discount code hence, you will not receive the code again and your reviews will be funded by the [banned mixer] separately.

..NOTE..  The campaign will be closed once I approve 20 applications. You will be selected in groups. Each group will have a deadline to submit reviews. Please ensure not to miss the deadline, as any reviews submitted late will be rejected.

REWARD
..0.006 BTC.. and a ..LIFETIME DISCOUNT OF 50%.. on mixing in [banned mixer] service.
One review, will be rewarded ..0.01 BTC.. from [banned mixer] management for the best review.
..10% LIFETIME DISCOUNT CODE.. for applying in the review program.

MUST DO
- Please perform mixing at least two times using two different browsers, and in your review, kindly mention the names of the browsers used.
- For each mixing, please use a different security level, Premium level (mandatory) and Basic/Standard on own choice.

TERMS
- You need to be a Senior Member or higher and have earned at least 50+ lifetime merits.
- No negative trust feedback from the DT network should be present on your account.
- You must apply with a Bech32 address.
- Payment will be made after the review is accepted, I may have different mind for selective applications.
- Discount code will be sent via PM after the review is accepted.
- Reviewers from campaign#1 will not receive 50% discount code anymore since they already have a LIFETIME discount code.
- Commence the review only upon acceptance. (Accepted members will be added to the campaign spreadsheet)
- Kindly submit the review within the assigned deadline, or your review will be rejected.
- The [banned mixer] team and I reserve the right to reject any application, including reviews.
- Enrolling with more than one account is not allowed. Any accounts found in violation will be tagged.
- No AI or ChatGPT content is permitted; if found, you will be banned from any signature and review campaign.

ELIGIBILITY FOR 10% LIFETIME DISCOUNT CODE
- You must write a brief and HONEST overall impression of using the service on [banned mixer] ANN thread. Make it informative for the readers.
- You must fulfill the application eligibility requirement explained on TERMS.
- Approved participants are not be eligible for 10% discount code since they will receive the 50% discount code.

HOW TO APPLY : Post the following information.

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When you apply you automatically agree that :
..Transferring the discount code that you receive to third parties and their subsequent generations is prohibited...
..The [banned mixer] will be able to use your feedback (whole or partially) from review campaign#2 on their service's website at present or in the future...

HOW TO SUBMIT THE REVIEW :
Post the review in this thread using following format:

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[b][banned mixer] Mixer Review Program #2
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<YOUR REVIEW>

..SPREADSHEET: Approved application R2..

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Hey Royse777 if previous participants in phase1 review are permitted to apply or are accepted I tender my application for the next review again to oversee their general improvement.

Thank you.

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Used mixers before (Chipmixer, Bestmixer, yes, that too long ago)  and would love to give out my honest opinion on [banned mixer].

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Applying again because I was at the top of the reserve list of the Review #1. Thanks

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Would be nice to test it again to see all the changes!

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If accepted, kindly add me to the second group if possible


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I wish to give me the privilege to review some of observation in the previous review that I forgot, since the experience is there already, I think this second review will be fantastic with more observation. Thanks

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[AB de Royse777]

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Igebotz
KingsDen
Trofo
examplens
SamReomo
mikeywith
iwantmyhomepaidwithbtc2
BlackHatCoiner
Stalker22
internetional

First group selected.
Please submit your review before 25th October @23:59 UTC.

For group#2 I will take around more 24 hours.

@Ratimov, I am waiting for the management before giving you the final word.
@TryNinja, please let me know if you are interested too.

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[TryNinja]

@TryNinja, please let me know if you are interested too.

I am! Thank you, Royse.

edit: Should I start testing it? Or do I want for your confirmation?

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[Trofo]

Please submit your review before 25th October @23:59 UTC.

I would like to ask for one week extension. Not because I need more time but because I wanted to test transactions with delayed transfer for better mixing results. Last time I went for fast ones.

If the deadline is more important, no problem I will again choose faster payout.

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[mikeywith]

[banned mixer] Mixer Review Program #2
Bitcointalk username: Mikeywith


I started with using the Clearnet version on Chrome, unfortunately, regardless of testing different browsers (Brave, Tor, and even Edge) I kept getting this error on the Captcha step.

Code:

An error has occurred. Please refresh the page and try again.

I wanted to contact their support but it also had a similar issue saying

Leave us a message
An error has occurred. Please refresh the page and try again.

At this point, if I was just a regular user I would have moved on to another mixer, but I contacted their support on the Bitcointalk forum and moved on to testing the Tor Mirror


Mix #1 :

Browser: Tor

Code:

Standard:
2 receiving addresses
78.99% (8 hrs.2min) and 21.01% (10hrs.19min)
service fee : 1.88%

Process:

1- Enter receveing address/es



Positive Notes:

- The mixer checks for the validity of the address as you type, all mixers I used have the validity check but some of them do that at the back end and thus you will have to submit the page first.

- The option of choosing delay in both hours and minutes is an advantage over some of the other mixers which only have the delay in hours.


2- Confirming the deposit address:



Negative Notes:

- The (Please, download the letter of guarantee before a transfer) is hardly noticeable, it must be more visible than the deposit information.

3- Sending the deposit.



Positive Notes:

- The process was showing in real-time, I broadcasted the transaction and it showed in the mixer right away, and it took only a few seconds to reflect the first confirmation on the blockchain.
 
Negative Notes:

- The tumbler code is somewhere at the bottom of this page, very easy to miss if you don't scroll down and honestly I almost forgot about it since my attention was on the deposit process, the page has a ton of blank space at the top, alongside the logo and steps icons at the top, all of which are taking a lot of "wasted" space

-I think this page should be squeezed to fit a single screen without having to scroll down, where everything needed (Letter of Guarantee + Deposit status + tumbler code appears in the same height level without needing to scroll)

- No easy way of entering the order number should one close the page by mistake, if someone doesn't pay enough attention to the URL which contains the order number /order#JTPFXE5B-ABCDE then it will be hard for them to go back to the same order without contacting the support team.

4- Receiving the transaction:



Positive Notes:

-My deposit was broadcasted at 4:29 PM, and the received transaction was sent at 12:44 AM, a total of 13 minutes delay which is perfectly fine given the nature of the blockchain.

- I received the first transaction which had 18 sat/Vbyte when the current mempool estimator showed 13, so the mixer's estimator is rather good, I have used other services with far less accurate fee estimation where they either pay too low or too high a fee.

Negative Notes:

-Despite receiving the transaction the timer is still running on the order page as if it's still yet to come.



* Notice at this point the transaction is confirmed on the blockchain, yet the timer is lagging.


Mix #2 :


Browser: FireFox

Unfortunately, up to this point (nearly 9 hours) and despite contacting the support both on Bitcointlalk as well as their website, the clearnet is still not functioning, so I had to use tor mirror on Firefox as well.

Code:

Premium:
1 receiving address
100% (19 min) 
service fee: 5%

Positive Notes:

-I used the tumbler code for the second mix so that I don't get my previously sent coins which worked (of course, it could have failed if the timing was better so I had to do another test Mix #3)

Negative Notes:

-The warning that says after the deposit is made:

If one of the outputs has a round value (like exactly 0.1 BTC) — this output can be considered as the recipient. Instead of sending 0.1 BTC, send for example 0.100124.

Is pretty useless at this point, it should show on the first page, and then again on the top of the deposit page not at the bottom, now since you can't control what the user sends, you could at least control what you send by slightly modifying your 0.0002 BTC fee to make it in a dynamic range of say 0.000015 - 0.0002

Looking at this transaction which I received from the mixer

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/b761724de390b75b26639e3515f5da975a70e2f99f565cca072b968e8e67eb0e

The output of 0.00075000 BTC came from the deposit of 0.001 BTC, which had a 5% so that resulted in 0.00095 BTC - 0.0002 BTC = 0.00075 BTC, this could have been avoided by you if the fee was 0.000019 instead of 0.00002, it's pretty unrealistic to expect the user to perform that calculation especially if modifying their deposit amount will result in leaving dust, and these things do happen on random bases even though not so often.

Example: sending 0.10329897 with 3% will result in an output of 0.1 BTC, and thus, adding a simple function that checks for the final output and adjusts the fees accordingly would be a good addition.


Also once you click on that exponential mark to view the warning, there is just no way of getting rid of it unless you refresh the page!


- My initial pick is 19 minutes, and that matches what is in the letter of guarantee

Signed message: We hereby confirm that [banned mixer] has generated the address bc1q6tcjl4tw9z68fqdly8me70vkt93e5aj47n7t6k in order to transfer incoming amount (minus fee) to the following addresses: 100% to bc1qjnwttvr2uvqyc9g42nfcv4y65zwu67klk7ecwm after 19 min

However, the timer on the website is showing 1h.17mins (not sure why)






Mix #3 :

Postive Notes:

- I tried to time the receiving of this mix to match the receiving of the second transaction of the first mix, just to see if one of the deposit addresses would be used for the other transaction, I received both transactions within 9 minutes difference and they were not related.

Negative Notes:

In this transaction https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/c9a3b09f602b02c433f11fed1e5cc5c1e1207c8c71b34539b0e01445eb04f2db

I see that you did two things:

1- You consolidated 3 smaller outputs that were not needed

This input > bc1qkpgugjv55lp0my23m0txn0azww5rvxwyf8qh5p of 0.00022350 is clearly the change address of this transaction
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/29cecb7abf2b2455ac842f0f2ca20bc64eeafa650244f100dc2ec248549de845

Which came from this address bc1qmtxzrvnzr3ryak5jeprz3eqqsgpq9t4hzvd2g5

the same address that was used to fund my first mix address (bc1qpshee3qva79zxqllgm8z7lxtk556793c4crhkj).

By doing this you revealed that all of these were change addresses owned by you

Code:

bc1qpw90m6znhrv9rpks6kfcrv06sl244megp0n7yr
0.00023799 BTC
6.85 USD
bc1qjjksuengqn64k50apyq26xrxy09k9fhl7q2nkm
0.00022350 BTC
6.00 USD
bc1qkpgugjv55lp0my23m0txn0azww5rvxwyf8qh5p

You did all this despite the fact that this output (bc1q5cjh3h6pv2aexgy9ee6mq9l3lcuyg8aursvv2r is 0.00120709) which is more than enough for my deposit, what is the reasoning behind doing this? I can see that you consolidated all of them to a P2SH address which makes it look like it's not the change address but rather mine (unless of course it was actually another client's address since it's higher than 0.00075 BTC we can't tell), but I still don't understand the logic behind doing this in a transaction you are mixing for the client, interested in hearing your mixed input.


General Positive Notes:

- Overall the mixer is easy to use.
- The process is fast and the website is not laggy even running on Tor behind a VPN.
- The GUI is nice and pleasant to the eye.

General Negative Notes:

- I don't like the security level options, it's complicated for the average user, and there should be only one type of mixing, a mixing that works, and the fees to be different only in regards to the outgoing transaction network fee, not that actually privacy result.
- The website should be translated into more languages, personally, I'd like to see it support Arabic.

[tumbler.io]

Mikeywithm,
Thank you for your review
Replied in the message.

[xLays]

Bitcointalk username: xLays
Bitcointalk Rank: Senior Member
Lifetime earned merit: 332
Bech32 address: bc1qva3ug6vuup8kfd6s9tm04gla6kxpt854rjem4kx97chq30c7jsfst4hmsg

[Faisal2202]

Bitcointalk username: Faisal2202
Bitcointalk Rank: Senior
Lifetime earned merit: 387
Bech32 address: bc1q405q7232hjq4jc8u8txx44379ejes7ckuzv8c7

I was reviewer of Phase 1, applying for phase 2, would love to test it again.

[ZAINmalik75]

Bitcointalk username: ZAINmalik75
Bitcointalk Rank: Hero
Lifetime earned merit: 512
Bech32 address: bc1qx5yc6jtjh4jupqn0p2cmufe8twc76dy680xt2k

[Bushdark]

Bitcointalk username: Bushdark
Bitcointalk Rank: Senior Member
Lifetime earned merit: 260
Bech32 address: bc1q4xrr0v2yu65x4k6s7l89rvh7m4sskrk5mk2rxx

[un_rank]

Bitcointalk username: un_rank
Bitcointalk Rank: Hero Member
Lifetime earned merit: 593
Bech32 address: bc1qcj739rwkf6lx3e94kc7uswxzvwks6y7mt3pgss

- Jay -

[BlackHatCoiner]

[banned mixer] Mixer Review Program #2
Bitcointalk username: BlackHatCoiner

I'll start with mixing this time. I'll check if you've taken into consideration my previous concerns, and will talk about it at the end of this review.

Browser: Tor v13.0.

Security level: Premium.

Mixing 1 mBTC.
Receiving in: bc1q9a4vsffut6h9awp8ggcfz7jlq7lgs07yl0yce5 (67.56%), bc1qcerxjz8p24rhgdqd0paq3s4p4ere3hgvm8wl00 (32.44%).
Service fee: 3.60%
Anonymizing meter signals "strong".

Let's valuate this mixing now it's done.

Code:

                     (#1 withdrawal)
                      ┌───────────┐
                  ┌──►│bc1q...yce5│       (random tx)
┌─────────────┐   │   └───────────┘       ┌───────────┐
│bc1q...t0cfq8├───┤                   ┌──►│bc1q...ldq8│        (mixer change)
└─────────────┘   │   ┌───────────┐   │   └───────────┘        ┌───────────┐
                  └──►│bc1q...7vr5├───┤                    ┌──►│bc1q...ha03│
                      └───────────┘   │   ┌───────────┐    │   └───────────┘
                     (mixer change)   └──►│bc1q...rf5j├────┤
                                          └───────────┘    │   ┌───────────┐
                                                           └──►│bc1q...wl00│
                                                               └───────────┘
                                                              (#2 withdrawal)

- #1 withdrawal TX: 978c20822b02efd140a4c13ac1c2026aec7df2cd4e3b89795549734b8c5a3b7f-
- random TX: eadee4abdc7fd80bbfe56694fb6528e165542b25f40fc4ba9894376c471fc0e5
- #2 withdrawal TX: af9a530e368d89c120e9bf6f99beb6ac89edd5a342fc600b75220d93bcfecd41

Again, not strong anonymity. Rather poor. Receiving addresses literally have blockchain connection. You should never use the change of one mixing for another receiving address of mine. Not having a blockchain connection is the whole point of separate addresses, otherwise I can do that too in my own wallet. The difference this time is that you added a random TX (as I demonstrate) in the middle, but it's still very poor mixing and any regular coinjoin would provide better anonymity set than that.

Security level: Standard.

Mixing 1 mBTC.
Receiving in: bc1qpnr87nuqar0vw0x62zvqfj747shpkpltp6jx2l.
Service fee: 1.80%
Anonymizing meter signals "fair".

This one is just a regular transaction: ec9ebe0cba4806a43a2f88a1f57e87fcdf274af3c739a3d3c411a77f7c53be53. I did check its coin history, it doesn't have any blockchain connection with the previous mixing, so I guess not great not terrible.

I will retry mixing with standard, just to see if this one there will be blockchain connection. I will be using the exact same parameters.

Security level: Standard.

(second attempt, using Chromium 118.0.5993.88)
Mixing 1 mBTC.
Receiving in: bc1qfgf9hs90fjr8kwn3mgnkce45l7ymteee6gxm43.
Service fee: 1.80%
Anonymizing meter signals "fair".

Mixing done, withdrawal transaction is this: 36816f0c75595b4b5bfa71123c54e1798fb5606271af96d2221e8c10d6dc959d.

There is no blockchain connection with the previous mixing as far as per my block explorer goes. So, tumbler code must be working as expected.


Let me return back to my concerns. You responded me in your ANN thread, so I want to confirm you've actually fixed these things you said. I'm going to ignore Javascript, as I don't exactly know your setup, even though I'll once again advice you to let the people audit the code if you're planning this mixer to go big.

We've made significant improvements to our FAQ section

I checked it, and indeed. You've actually made it look more professional now. I don't have anything else to suggest about FAQ.

Our system distributes coins using 96 different sending patterns, and yep, that includes sending from various address types. We're all about upping that anonymity game.

Yes, but I think you've missed my point. When I receive mixed coins, I want them to looked mixed. The point of using a mixer is to improve fungibility, and the only manner to accomplish that is to make fungible mixed outputs. You do improve privacy by obscuring the coin history, don't get me wrong, but chain analysis companies should get a clear signal that once you deposit, that the particular coin is, not only changing hands, but enters an a pool of mixed coins. For instance, a large coinjoin is clearing up that it's a large coinjoin. Coinjoin solutions such as whirlpool, don't try to hide the fact that you're making a coinjoin, and neither should you. Look on what ChipMixer did, it used fungible chips, which made outsiders treat each equally.

I hope you do acknowledge now, I'll be happy to continue this conversation in your ANN thread if you want.

Please note that the funds you received were from an address with a much larger sum than you requested for withdrawal. By structuring our pool into levels and using various sources of coins, we aim to protect our pool from de-anonymization, making it more costly to attack. This approach enhances the overall security and privacy of our service.

Please note that your prioritization should be to protect the user. The user doesn't know your setup. They simply send and receive, expecting you did your job. If the user sends a small amount of bitcoin, then you should take care to use a smaller pool of your coins (if sending from large-sum pool is a problem). Otherwise increase your minimum deposit.

The minimum receiving address fee is "one of the methods" to protect our pools from de-anonymization, the primary function of which is to make such an attack as expensive as possible.

Again, I don't understand. How does charging exactly 20,000 sat protect your pool from de-anonymization? You're discouraging the user from splitting their mixed coins, which is a very bad practice. Nobody is going to pay 200,000 sat, just to receive their mixed coins in 10 separate addresses, which is just bad, as receiving in multiple addresses, in various time periods significantly strengthens privacy. They'll most likely stick with just 1 receiving address, which is much easier to de-anonymize.


Unresolved concern: privacy policy.

Privacy policy
I'm a little bit hesitant to using this mixer after reading its privacy policy. So, I'm basically agreeing that [banned mixer] implements coin filtering and I'm forbidden to using it if my coins are included in some illegal activity. I'd expect better policy from a service that is trying to enhance Bitcoin's privacy (and coincidentally, its fungibility).

/terms]4. PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES and COIN FILTERING

You accept not to engage "The Service" in any illegal activity or not to use "The Service" to adversely affect the performance or provision of services by "The Service". In addition, You accept not to use any Bitcoin created, received, or granted in exchange for or as a result of any illegal activity in "The Service".

[...]

COIN FILTERING

"The Service" may carry out verification and control of illegal activities with the help of a third party under a contract. "The Service" may terminate Your access to "The Service" with immediate effect for any reason - including, but not limited to, illegal or prohibited activities, at its sole discretion, and is not obligated to reveal the details of its decision.
You accept that "The Service's" decision to take certain actions, including termination for any reason at its sole discretion, may be based on confidentiality criteria that are necessary for "The Service's" security protocols and risk management. You accept "The Service" is not obligated to reveal to you the particularities of its security and risk management processes.

In addition, the user has to accept that they will not be revealed the reason their coins were rejected. I want more information and explanation on this. Why are you doing it? Bitcoins are fungible. Why do you treat the currency as non-fungible? It harms it as currency. How can the user trust a service with the aim to improve fungibility if the service itself doesn't treat it likewise? And which is the procedure followed if you deem their coins as "tainted"? Do you return them back to their address? The user will hesitate to using this, if there's a chance to confiscate their money (which seems to be).

[tumbler.io]

BlackHatCoiner,
Again, not strong anonymity.

Answer

[paid2]

[banned mixer] Mixer Review Program #2
Bitcointalk username: iwantmyhomepaidwithbtc2

Browsers used :
-Mix 1 :Chromium Version 118.0.5993.70 (Official Build)
-Mix 2 : Tor 13.0
-Overall experience : I checked all the pages of the site with the two browsers mentioned above +  Firefox 115.3.1esr (64 bits) on Debian and under Android with Firefox Focus 119.0

MIX 1

With Chromium (and Firefox) I couldn't access the captcha and couldn't use the mixer. I deleted my cookies, refreshed the page, took into consideration your reply to mikeywith and stayed on the page while it loaded, but still the same problem. I tried with "private"/"incognito" window, same issue again. Not sure what was the problem, I never had this kind of issue with a captcha before. I encountered this problem yesterday too, when I tried to test your service, and it seems to be persistent on my end.



I had no problems with Tor browser, everything seems to work well:



So, let's go with Tor browser! I wanted to do the test with Chromium and Firefox, but it's not working at the moment. So I'm going to do the test with Tor, and try later when the problem is solved.

The coins will be sent from this address : bc1qv7e20dtpsxjfncsmrlpyym9tzhyg8cmdpv20xc

Receiving addresses :
-28,99% to bc1qmcs2xplsyd62668gshh46ft2fsru0hjjn84vx8
-40,26% to bc1ql3vktvycm4rerdfwfg390xmmpxqf50mtnmvvyu
-30,75% to bc1qp85cz7z6saywglesa8mnn5cnn7snr4z63m4y5h

Security Level : Premium
Service fee : 3,96%

Delay :
-1h55 min for bc1qmcs2xplsyd62668gshh46ft2fsru0hjjn84vx8
-5h47min for bc1ql3vktvycm4rerdfwfg390xmmpxqf50mtnmvvyu
-8h58min for bc1qp85cz7z6saywglesa8mnn5cnn7snr4z63m4y5h

Amount : 0.00119326 BTC

Code:

-----BEGIN LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----
Signed message: We hereby confirm that [banned mixer] has generated the address bc1qnma78acuajkdt3ljulkyxetx95xc63pq04d4z6 in order to transfer incoming amount (minus fee) to the following addresses: 28.99% to bc1qmcs2xplsyd62668gshh46ft2fsru0hjjn84vx8 after 114 min., 40.26% to bc1ql3vktvycm4rerdfwfg390xmmpxqf50mtnmvvyu after 344 min., 30.75% to bc1qp85cz7z6saywglesa8mnn5cnn7snr4z63m4y5h after 538 min. This service will be only available for all bitcoins received from 2023 October 24, 17:36:31 UTC to 2023 October 25, 17:36:31 UTC with minimum amount of 0.00119326 BTC per single transaction and maximum amount of 10 BTC total. Our fee is 3.96% + 0.0002 BTC for every target address. This letter is digitally signed by our main account: 1TUMBLRXHDjFZacmFLbuDn2Rw1rcPgacR. Order: https://[banned mixer]/order#4AK4U48O-5G7FSI. Stay protected and thank you for using our service.
Bitcoin address: 1TUMBLRXHDjFZacmFLbuDn2Rw1rcPgacR
Signature: HOvXGfY8ojfciS54/TTyUYqCF59eBhZjNKGxC/GB0EVbR2xudshMsvF53tDEoN4Ow+rIVnBHzvb1g6F1q9NFGBc=
-----END LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----

Delay:



As you can see above, the delay were respected.

For the third transaction, fees were very overpaid : 42,9 sat/vB instead of 13 sat/vB on average in block 813711 9bb1bce5d459b07b2457c3e1058b061e1cb78c3fe7d12219599ba97e01891c8b

But that's not a big deal, the first two were optimal. I didn't find my own address when checking on a explorer the source of the coins.

MIX 2

For this one I used the Tumbler code provided in my previous session.

The coins will be sent from this address : bc1q2ff6p8n7j8th9jyk3lzs3xcne8rkf28tavw5rw

Receiving addresses :
-100% to bc1qzpda8ykfdl6gqlen8vh290u8ly8rmzkkx8hgky

Security Level : Standard
Service fee : 1,89%

Delay :
-5h06min

Amount : 0.00148455 BTC

Code:

-----BEGIN LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----
Signed message: We hereby confirm that [banned mixer] has generated the address bc1qtfvc8ztnvrlfj0nk98f452rhs60n78n0l8drwg in order to transfer incoming amount (minus fee) to the following addresses: 100% to bc1qzpda8ykfdl6gqlen8vh290u8ly8rmzkkx8hgky after 306 min. This service will be only available for all bitcoins received from 2023 October 24, 19:15:15 UTC to 2023 October 25, 19:15:15 UTC with minimum amount of 0.001 BTC per single transaction and maximum amount of 10 BTC total. Our fee is 1.89% + 0.0002 BTC for every target address. This letter is digitally signed by our main account: 1TUMBLRXHDjFZacmFLbuDn2Rw1rcPgacR. Order: https://[banned mixer]/order#QQODJGGM-31ECOW. Stay protected and thank you for using our service.
Bitcoin address: 1TUMBLRXHDjFZacmFLbuDn2Rw1rcPgacR
Signature: HNYjZoObY710PsfUaNF9/dqSvr0Qm9ZxXDIRp3+8dGWXBxyA2DM6iC3vdJ1HvvdwGXVoGkx0oR0bUwGkxhnfWXI=
-----END LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----

Delay:



Above, you can see the whole history for the test 2. As you can see, the transaction arrived on time (+10 minutes, so exactly the average block confirmation's time needed), and everything was flawless. I'm not a blockchain analyst, but looking with Crystal explorer I couldn't find my own address.
I sent 0.00148455 BTC and received 0.00125649 ; which is fine.

Transaction fees were a little overpaid 40 sat/vB instead of approximately 20 sat/vB https://mempool.space/tx/259a247900a398b3087b9eb018a81ac5c1474097e53fbd11032d48fa6586ae5d


I'm now going to share with you my overall experience of using the product, as well as my various comments and questions.

About the mixing process :

Despite the problems of using your services outside the Tor browser, I found the steps of mixing extremely user-friendly, everything clear and well organized. It's one of the most pleasant mixers I've ever used. Your site updated itself almost instantly when my items entered the mempool, it's very responsive.

I like the Anonymizing meter, it's very user friendly:



It's good that users must tick the conditions + the reminder to download the letter of guarantee before everything else. Well done.


During the step 4 this informations appears and it is well managed, I find it very easy to read :


Once the mixing process is complete, I appreciated the suggestion to "Delete immediately" the order, which is good.



Before testing the mixing process, I began by exploring every aspect of the site, as I usually do when I come across a mixer I don't know.

I really like the design of your site, it's clear and modern.
Your website is responsive, I had no slowness of any kind, no matter what web-browser I used. The fact that you've integrated a dark mode is great. It's one of the most user-friendly mixer websites I've ever tried on Android, kudos for the mobile version! 

However, my first impression was mitigated : I told myself that if I had to discover Tumbler randomly -outside the context of this review-, I'd wonder if the service was still active, and if a team was still really in charge of it.

Despite the beauty of the site, I had a sort of "ghost town" feeling when I was browsing on the site... Let me explain why :

The support can't be contacted :



Same issue with Chromium and Firefox :

Code:

 An error has occurred. Please refresh the page and try again. 

I've tried two days in a row and the problem persists, and I've also refreshed the page several times and the same problem persists.

Your Twitter account is empty, no avatar, no post.
I'm not sure it's right for you to leave this X account linked to your site, it gives an impression of being left behind. You could share on X your blog articles for example. I guess it's not -of course- the number one priority, but any sign of activity is a plus when it comes to building trust.



Apparently, you have no active online presence outside your website and your Bitcointalk account.

Okay, it's not a big deal if you take these elements one by one, but as a whole, they give an impression of incompleteness.
In a sector where trust and reputation are essential, all these elements could lead new users to refuse to take risks, and to go and see some other platform. For example, showing signs of activity outside of your blog (which has irregular activity too) on Twitter, Discord or Telegram could be a real plus for federating a community of users and to reassure them. If I'd needed to contact the support, I'd have had to go to the FAQ, dig around and find your e-mail address. It would be nice to update the dedicated page. The fact that you are reactive on Bitcointalk is a big plus, but in my opinion, to reach more users, you need something extra. I know that multiplying accounts on social medias means multiplying risks (impersonation etc..), but it should be possible to find a good balance between online activity/presence and risks.

Other comments and suggestions :

FAQ
Your FAQ seems to be quite complete and precise, the information is clear, and I can't think of anything in particular to suggest to change about it.

Terms and Conditions :
Also, I've spent some time exploring your "Terms and Privacy" page.
I have some questions about the "Coin Filtering" part:

"The Service" may carry out verification and control of illegal activities with the help of a third party under a contract. "The Service" may terminate Your access to "The Service" with immediate effect for any reason - including, but not limited to, illegal or prohibited activities, at its sole discretion, and is not obligated to reveal the details of its decision.
You accept that "The Service's" decision to take certain actions, including termination for any reason at its sole discretion, may be based on confidentiality criteria that are necessary for "The Service's" security protocols and risk management. You accept "The Service" is not obligated to reveal to you the particularities of its security and risk management processes.

Are we supposed to understand that you could collaborate with blockchain analysis companies if it was requested? Or some my data could be shared to a third-party company? In any case, at first glance it seems rather vague. If you could reassure us about this point, that would be welcome.

Fees BTC
I use mixers regularly, of course I look how much cost the fees, but to be honest, I'm willing to pay the price of privacy; I've paid up to 4-5% in the past, which is why I find your fees reasonable (even if from a personal point of view I'm not a big fan of a fixed amount of BTC + x% and I like to have a percentage only, but that's personal). It's not cheap, but it's not expensive either, when compared with some of others mixing platforms. All good.

I'd like to make it clear that for this test, I wasn't looking to save on fees or anticipate them at all, I wanted to test the service with small amounts so this is necessarily disproportionate. A regular user would of course take more care not to send such a small amount with 3 output addresses.

Translations :
I can only check the French language, but I'd like to point out that the site's translation is more than a little unreliable.

It looks like it's been translated with GPT or an automatic translation tool. Most of the mistakes are in the FAQ, but the whole site has issues with the translation. For example some terms are translated in a literal way when it doesn't apply at all in the context of crypto mixing ("pièce" for Bitcoin, "code a tambour" for Tumbler code, for example, but there are many more).

If other languages have been translated in the same way, I'd advise you to recheck everything when you can.

Conclusion

You seem to be very responsive to the feedback you receive, so I'm not worried about the small accessibility problems I've encountered, I imagine they'll be quickly rectified.

Otherwise, I think the site could be more complete, especially from the point of view of branding your service. Nevertheless, it's been a pleasure to navigate, and use your site and service. I found it intuitive, fast, and the service was done as stipulated in the letter of guarantee.

I would like to thank you for giving me the opportunity to test your service, and to give you my comments and suggestions. I remain at your disposal if you want to discuss anything about this review.

[internetional]

[banned mixer] Mixer Review Program #2
Bitcointalk username: internetional

Why do people need mixers

Since the widespread adoption of the Lightning Network, the need for mixers as a way to obscure information about where and how many bitcoins I transfer has diminished. Now, if I require privacy regarding bitcoin spending directions, I simply place my bitcoins in a payment channel, and no one can see how I spend them. Lightning Network is faster than mixers and more secure (with no trust element), making it difficult for mixers to compete. The exception is large transfers. Sending them via the Lightning Network can be challenging, so here, a mixer may be needed to maintain privacy.

However, in modern conditions, the primary purpose of mixers for me is to conceal large sums that I receive, not the ones I send. If a substantial amount comes to me and everyone can see it, it might attract the attention of malicious actors. Therefore, it's better to hide significant sums.

Additionally, I suspect that mixers might be used by individuals who have illicitly obtained bitcoins somewhere and are trying to cover their tracks. Finally, mixers are likely in demand among those who steal fiat money and then convert it into bitcoins. Such individuals may also need to sever the connection between the coins.

Based on the above, when getting acquainted with a mixer, my primary objective is to understand its target audience:
1. those who want to keep their transfers private,
2. individuals who don't want to expose large sums of incoming funds to potential malicious actors,
3. or criminals who steal Bitcoins or fiat money and are attempting to cover their tracks.

The first target group, those who require privacy in their transfers, typically seek low fees (ideally not higher than what's offered in the Lightning Network) and high transaction volumes. The minimum fee on [banned mixer], at 0.4% plus 20,000 satoshis per receiving address, is noticeably higher than the fees on the Lightning Network. The claimed volume goes up to 10 BTC. However, it seems that the service owners themselves are not very confident that users will trust a mixer with such high volumes. They acknowledge in the FAQ that entrusting a substantial sum to a mixer can be challenging and recommend breaking it down into less critical portions for the client. From this, it appears that [banned mixer] may not offer anything exceptional to potential clients interested in private transfers.

The second target group, those who want incoming bitcoins to be completely unlinked, indeed align with much of the information on the [banned mixer] website. The entire mixing process in [banned mixer] seems tailored to achieving this goal. The mixer's developers suggest sending each received amount to multiple addresses, utilizing delays before sending, and employing codes to ensure there is no connection between the sent and received coins. It appears that [banned mixer] and I share the same understanding of the primary purpose of mixers in modern conditions. [banned mixer] is primarily focused on providing precisely the services I would expect from a mixer.

But there is one detail that makes me wonder if [banned mixer] might consider people who want to cover their criminal tracks as part of their target audience, and that's the fees. On one hand, it's very useful that you can specify custom fees for each mixing transaction. If in one case, you receive 0.40% less from the mixer than what you sent, in another case 0.41% less, and in a third case 0.42% less, it introduces additional entropy into the data and makes it even more challenging to trace connections between the coins. But who and why would give the mixer 1.8% (the lower limit for the Standard level), 3.6% (the lower limit for the Premium level), and especially 5%?! In my opinion, only scammers and thieves who are willing to pay for silence, meaning complicity in their crimes, would do so. If the mixer itself suggests setting such a fee, it may mean it is willing to serve those who are ready to pay it.

Indeed, using such a mixer raises not only moral questions but also potential financial risks. If the mixer becomes entangled in criminal activities, it's only a matter of time before it gets caught. At that very moment, your order might be in progress, and you could be left without your bitcoins. It's essential to exercise caution and due diligence when choosing a mixer to minimize these risks.

My recommendation to the mixer would be not to allow customers to set such high fees, like 1.8%, 3.6%, and especially 5%. These fees are excessively high for the average bitcoin user and may not appear as fees for privacy but rather as fees for money laundering. It's crucial to strike a balance between privacy and reasonable fees to ensure the service is used for legitimate purposes and not misused for illegal activities.

My expectations based on previous reviews

Since this is the second round of reviews, I've reviewed the feedback from the first campaign to understand what I should expect from the [banned mixer] mixer and what aspects to pay attention to.

Reading the reviews from the first campaign, I've noted the following critical points:

1. Terminology and promises. [banned mixer] makes bold statements like "absolute security and reliability" and "the most reliable Bitcoin Mixer and Tumbler service in the world." However, these claims lack a factual basis. Mixers operate in a legal gray area, and there are no guarantees that they will fully protect your funds. [banned mixer] doesn't adequately warn users about the risks associated with mixer use and the need for appropriate precautions.
2. Terms of service. [banned mixer]'s terms of service include a clause stating that the service may share your data with third parties for illegal activity checks. This could jeopardize your anonymity.
3. Address types. [banned mixer] does not always use native SegWit addresses, potentially reducing the level of transaction anonymity.
4. Address reuse. [banned mixer] may reuse the same address for multiple transactions, making your transactions more traceable.

After using the mixer, I can say the following regarding these observations.

The bold and unsubstantiated claims do not immediately catch one's eye. Yes, they are present, but they are usually tucked away in sections of the text that I tend not to read thoroughly. I typically view this text as marketing content and tend to skim through it. It required a deliberate effort on my part to locate these statements. I presume that other users might not stumble upon them unless actively seeking them out. Therefore, I do not perceive these claims as a significant issue.


As for the concern about permitting the sharing of user data with third parties, I hold a different perspective. The service's owners themselves are essentially unknown entities. By using the service, users already transmit information about their addresses and transactions to unfamiliar parties. Information is exposed not when [banned mixer] transfers it to another entity, but rather when users disclose it to the mixer.

In my transactions with [banned mixer], both premium and basic, I did not notice [banned mixer] using non native SegWit addresses. Furthermore, [banned mixer] handled the sending of coins to a Taproot address quite well. So, it appears that this issue has likely been resolved.

I didn't encounter the issue of address reuse in my transactions with [banned mixer] either. All the addresses provided to me were used for the first time. In fact, I don't see anything inherently problematic in reusing an address, especially with a mixer where different individuals use it at different times. For those attempting to trace transactions, address reuse makes it even more confusing.

Overall, I didn't come across the expected issues, and it seems that the service handles these aspects well.

My personal experience

My first attempt at mixing was on my iPad through the privacy-focused browser Orion (browser.kagi.com), but it was unsuccessful.

Firstly, pop-up information elements obstructed essential parts of the interface and didn't disappear as expected.
They remained on the screen even after moving to the next section of the form.


Secondly, I couldn't download the guarantee letter. Clicking the download link resulted in an error message.

Without the guarantee letter, I was hesitant to proceed with the mixing. So, I switched to the Chrome browser and completed all the necessary steps there, and everything went smoothly.

For my second mixing attempt, I used an Android phone with the Kiwi browser. Kiwi didn't present any issues, but using the website on a phone was not the most convenient experience. The most inconvenient aspect was that all mixing settings are adjusted using sliders, and on a small screen, this can be cumbersome. It would be much more user-friendly if the website allowed users to input values numerically for parameters like the fee percentage, the fraction of coins sent to each address, and the delay time. Trying to hit the exact value you want with sliders can be frustrating.


Comparing to other mixers

The interface issue mentioned earlier (lack of numeric input fields) appears to be common among many mixers. It might be intentional, as entering numbers may not be as secure as using sliders. However, if that's not the case, addressing this interface shortcoming could make using [banned mixer] on a phone more convenient than many other mixers.

The lower minimum acceptable fee on [banned mixer] is certainly a competitive advantage. However, it's essential to note that there are mixers that don't charge an additional fee for each new receiving address, and under specific configurations, using such mixers might be more cost-effective.

Having the website available in eight languages is a significant advantage, exceeding the language support of many popular mixers.

Starting mixing after just one confirmation is also an important advantage. However, it's crucial to send coins to the provided address within 24 hours, and it's unclear what is considered the moment of sending: the first blockchain confirmation or the detection of the transaction in the mempool. It's indeed strange that this information is absent on websites of other mixers as well. Adding this clarity would make [banned mixer] even more user-friendly compared to its competitors.

Overall, I didn't find any specific aspects in [banned mixer] that would set it apart from its competitors in a negative way. On the contrary, most of the differences seem to favor [banned mixer].

[SamReomo]

[banned mixer] Mixer Review Program #2
Bitcointalk username: SamReomo

In order to review the [banned mixer] I used three different browsers to test the mixer. I used Microsoft Edge Version 118.0.2088.61 for 1st mixing test, Tor Version 12.5.5 for 2nd mixing test, and Firefox Version 119 for 3rd mixing test. I have viewed the pages first in all of the browsers and checked the UI of the website before doing any mixing and I can say that the site loaded flawlessly, and the UI was professionally made. I used premium mixing security level two times as that one was mandatory for the review so I thought why not to use it for both tests and I used standard security level for the third mixing test. The mixing process went smoothly without any issues with two browsers but in third browser and I had encountered a minor issue.

General Introduction to [banned mixer]

The [banned mixer] is a mixer site that’s for the users who want to have untraceable Bitcoin transactions. The [banned mixer] provides solutions for the users who want to mix up their Bitcoin and make those untraceable. The main purpose of such mixers is to increase the anonymity of the coins so no one can trace that who owns those coins. The [banned mixer] works in the simplest way possible, and the site offers 3 simple steps to make your coins untraceable. The step-1 is to deposit your Bitcoin into the deposit address that [banned mixer] generates for you, and in the step-2 the [banned mixer] mix up your Bitcoin for you and in step-3 they will send the untraceable Bitcoin into your wallet address or addresses that you added as receiving address or addresses during the mixing process. All of those steps are explained in [banned mixer]’s site in detail so I won’t go deep to explain those in details in this review. The minimum deposit for using of [banned mixer]’s mixing service is 0.001 BTC and the minimum service fee is 0.4% which is really impressive. They promise smart anonymity and they claim that no-one will be able to trace the mixed coins and the coins won’t be linked with the coins that the user deposits.

The Site Design and User Interface

First of all I must say that the design of the [banned mixer] is quite impressive and it’s better than other mixers in design and loading speeds. Another important thing I noticed is the loading speed of the site, it’s way faster in loading than other competitors because other mixing sites take a lot of time to load on Tor browser but [banned mixer] loads instantly. The design of the site is professionally made and I haven’t noticed any lag whatsoever when browsing the site on Microsoft Edge and on Tor but it was a little bit slow on Firefox. The site offers dark mode and that’s also pretty interesting but I mostly use light mode and that’s why I just used dark mode for testing purpose only but still I can say that dark mode is working perfectly.

The site is available in 8 languages at the time which include English, German, Italian, Russian, French, Japanese, Chinese, and Spanish. The home page of the site loads instantly and the animations appear quickly which is a very positive experience for the users. I have loaded each page of the [banned mixer] including the Support page and I can surely say that the loading speeds of the site are unmatched and no competitor is able to offer such speeds on their sites. The design of the site is eye-catching and everything works flawlessly without any issue. I must say thumbs up for [banned mixer] team for making their site very responsive and eye-catching and user-friendly.

First Mixing, Browser used, Microsoft Edge Version 118.0.2088.61, Security Level: Premium 5% fee

For this mixing I used Edge browser and I used Premium security level at [banned mixer] and set the fee to highest in order to see how it works. For this mixing I sent 0.00102 BTC and I used two receiving addresses for the test. I put the delay of 1 hour and 33 minutes and 51.87% for 1st address and 2 hour 9 minutes and 48.13% for 2nd address. I didn’t applied any Tumbler code this time because I haven’t mixed my coins before with [banned mixer] and after selecting the delay and percentage allocation I was about to receive 0.000569 BTC according to the estimator of [banned mixer] and I selected continue to further proceed the mixing process.

On next page I got the deposit address and a letter of guarantee and I downloaded the letter of guarantee and checked it thoroughly and proceeded with depositing. As soon as I received a confirmation the [banned mixer] prepared the order without any delay and then I waited to see the completion of the mixing. Once the mixing was finished I copied the Tumbler code in order to apply it on my next mixing.

For this mixing I sent 0.00102 BTC from this address bc1qm34lsc65zpw79lxes69zkqmk6ee3ewf0j77s3h to this wallet address bc1qg8vu7p2peh9gd2maxdk8xvm2hgzpmjgujw2cml which was generated by [banned mixer] and I used bc1qthppcsr6gtq929tkdfvsmfpt7shem3skfsyta7 as 1st address and bc1q8n5j8qce8kkzrecl978lfdclf000lgzwjcv2td as 2nd address.

I would say that the [banned mixer] has done the job in the best way possible and there were no problems during mixing and after mixing so I guess anyone can use it without any worries. I’m not a chain analyst or expert at tracing Bitcoin transactions but I tried every possible way to see if I can find a trace of my own coins but surprisingly I wasn’t able to see any trace of my coins. The coins I received were totally different from the coins that I deposited. The mixer has really done its job professionally and I would say that premium mixing at [banned mixer] works in the best way possible. The fees were a little bit higher for such level of mixing and the fee of 0.0002 BTC for each receiving address is high I guess and I recommend [banned mixer] to reduce it in order to get more users on their site.

Second Mixing, Browser used Tor, version 12.5.5, Security level: Premium 3.69% fee

Once my first mix was completed I began my second mixing test and for this test I used Tor browser version 12.5.5 and set the security level to Premium once again this time but with 3.69% as fee instead of 5%. For testing the [banned mixer] on Tor I used the onion version of it. The experience was similar to the clear net version and I had no lagging issues or whatsoever. I used my previous [banned mixer] code in order to avoid getting my own previous coins after the mix and for this test I used a single receiving address only.

Once again I deposited 0.00102 BTC for this test and selected delay time of 2 hour and 59 minutes for this mixing my estimated receiving amount was 0.0078236 BTC and clicked on continue button in order to proceed further. I agreed to the terms and conditions and proceeded to next step of mixing. I downloaded the letter of guarantee once again and gave it a reading. And now I left the mixing process in background and opened it after approximately 3 hours and it was completed successfully. Once again I was amazed with the results of the mixing as it ran flawlessly in background and was completed successfully.

For this mixing I used b75af2768d256bf50346f393d4c40ddf as order code which I got from my previous mixing and I sent 0.00102 BTC from these addresses bc1qm34lsc65zpw79lxes69zkqmk6ee3ewf0j77s3h and bc1qm34lsc65zpw79lxes69zkqmk6ee3ewf0j77s3h to this deposit address bc1qsmx6q29hpzvjde3f085vp58c7gyknmd7l88l92 which was generated by [banned mixer] for mixing purpose and I used bc1qe504atequqk7d6e2f8sywa0hvhha542r9fdpg8 as receiving address.

I tried to trace the address once again in block explorer and I can surely say that it had no connection with my previous coins that I sent for my first mixing. The [banned mixer]’s claims are 100% accurate about the use of code and I confirmed it myself. Although the mixing was done in 3 hours only but still I can say that anonymity levels of the mixing was pretty good and it won’t be easy for anyone to trace it. However, I recommend [banned mixer] team once again to reduce the fee for generation of additional receiving address as the anonymity level will increase very much when multiple receiving addresses are used and with low fee the users will most probably choose multiple addresses instead of one address.

The low fee will allow the users to add more receiving addresses and that will surely add additional anonymity into the process of mixed coins. However, the anonymity levels are still quite good even with two addresses and that’s more than enough for most users who want their coins mixed. I’m quite sure that it would be difficult for normal tech users to trace the users even if the users have used single or multiple addresses however, I don’t know that which technology chain analysis companies use and that’s why I can’t say anything about their tracing levels. But, I still think that they may not be able to trace the users who use [banned mixer]’s Premium security level for mixing of their coins.

Third Mixing, Browser used Firefox version 19.0,  Security level: Standard 1.85% fee

This is the third time I'm using the [banned mixer] mixer and this time I used Firefox to test the mixing of the platform. In this test the Captcha page was a little bit lagging for me but I was able to enter the captcha code without any errors. This time I went with Standard mixing security level instead of Premium and I set the fee at 1.85% for this test. The order details page was smooth once again and I was able to thick the terms & conditions without any problem but when I clicked on continue button to go to the next page I got an error.

After that error I refreshed the page and I was taken to "in progress page" without any changes and I continued the mixing by entering 0.00102 BTC for the test and sent Bitcoin to the address provided by [banned mixer]. For this testing I didn't use any order code and I sent 0.00102 Bitcoin to this address bc1q4tp0rf08h8uv907lnayq2mvvzjstulgdqv2hgw and used the following two as receiving addresses bc1qlczvwvjhngzf689qrg9t0unjgcle6mw282c3wx and bc1qd08zfk3cv04vqr6cgl6y27sax77p2rdelkack3 and set the delay of 68 minutes for 1st receiving address and 98 minutes for 2nd receiving address. The process went smoothly once again and I received my mixed coins on time without any delays. The [banned mixer] has done the job in the best way once again and I tried to see that the coins had any connection with my coins but once again it was a smooth mixing without any tracing details.

My Suggestions

1. I recommend [banned mixer] to fix the typo error in languages. When you click on languages you see Germany instead of German which I guess is a typo that needs to be fixed by the [banned mixer] team.

2. Another suggestion I want to give to [banned mixer] team is to reduce the fee of the additional addresses for the users who make minimum deposit as that will be very competitive for other competitors. However, other those I haven’t faced any issue with [banned mixer] and my experience with this mixer went pretty smoothly.

Conclusion

The [banned mixer] delivered their what they promised and I was quite impressed by using this mixer. The mixer that [banned mixer] has made is surely somewhat different from other mixers and the best thing I noticed about them is their site's design, user-friendliness, and fast loading speeds. I must say that it's the most responsive mixer for the users who want to mix their coins on Tor. Overall, I have spend two days with this mixer and I can surely say that it was a great user experience and I hope that Tumbler team will consider my suggestions.

[KingsDen]

[banned mixer] Mixer Review Program #2
Bitcointalk username: KingsDen

 INTRO: 

Firstly, I really commend Royse777 and the [banned mixer] team for the initiative of double review of the [banned mixer] mixer project. This is a clear indication that [banned mixer] is really prepared to give her best to the bitcoin community and all who will use their services. The end product of these reviews will be excellence because; What the first set of reviewers observed are corrected and returned for further review and whatever is not captured in the first review will definitely be captured in the second.
On sensing the uniqueness of this review, I decided not to read through the review of others in order to come up with something unique as regards my experience in the [banned mixer] mixer compared with other mixers I have used.

  WEBSITE REVIEW 

I made the whole review from mobile, since I have been away from home for over 4 days. Having known that more than 55% internet traffic come from mobile phones, so it is not an error to review from the mobile. Reviewing from  Xiaomi phone of 6.97 inches.

• [banned mixer] mobile UI is awesome. The are no shouty colours which makes me to spend very limited time on websites. The position of the dark/light switch is cool as it is always hidden in some websites, that I will begin to wish it was dark by default.
• The user friendliness of the website is top-notch. The only requirement is just to know how to scroll, next and back, you are good to go.
• Another plus is the "Mix Now" button available at every page. Not to make us forget the reason we visited the website.
• In the image below, there are places to paste multiple output addresses. Will it be possible to have code scanner there, incase one may not copy and paste.
  
• The font of the bulb icon on the mobile view should be reduced. It's making that particular page not fully mobile responsive unless you switch to landscape.
  
• At the footer of the homepage, I saw the "X" icon, I didn't know what is was doing there until I clicked it and discovered it is a close icon. It will be fine that you use the word "CLOSE" in red colour as the icon doesn't sooth there. It looks like a social media handle icon. Again, the BTC logo representing the bitcointalk community is confusing. I didn't have the idea of what I was going to meet till I clicked it. It might be better if you replace it with BTT and then include other social media handles to make it a natural contac-us page.
  

 ToS 

• 1.5 CHANGES TO THESE TERMS
  "The Service" may change the "Terms and Conditions", including as a result of changes in functions, technology or any law or regulation to which "The Service" is subject, and/or for any other reason. If "The Service" does this, the updated "Terms and Conditions" will be published on the website, including the date of the "Last Update" will be replaced with the corresponding one. ...If You do not accept the adjusted "Terms and Conditions", You must stop using "The Service", otherwise the liability rules set out in Section 1.2 will apply.

  If there is an updated ToS, it should read "New ToS' such that if not checked, the user cannot continue using the service. Casinos are used to manipulating the ToS against gamblers, although that is not popular among mixers

• YOU EXPRESSLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT "THE SERVICE" DOES NOT GUARANTEE A SUFFICIENT LEVEL OF ANONYMITY FOR THE USER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, AS THE ANONYMITY OF THE USER IS HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON OTHER CONCURRENT ACTIONS OF THE USER.

  I read this more than 5 times without proper understanding of it. The essence of using mixers is for anonymity. How then will a mixer tell say that they do not guarantee my anonymity. This is a disclaimer of your core goal. What concurrent actions of the user can we note please?

 MORE FAQs 

• Can I pay as I wish?
• Does [banned mixer] support randomisation of addresses?
• What Browsers do you support?  
• Do I need to register in order to mix?  
• Can I mix to my CEX account?

  SUPPORT  

You need to send a message before you see an option for live support. How about if I get the live chat on a go?
My experience with the support wasn't bad as the support was very responsive. After first mixing from my wallet, I decided to perform second mix from a CEX. Due to I am not used to sending coins from CEX, I thought the high transfer fee would be charged from my balance , not knowing it would be charged from the outgoing BTC. This made me send BTC that is below the min deposit of the mixer.
The support requested to refund me either through the deposit address or any of the recieving addresses and I was refunded.
It is good to note that I had to provide my letter of guarantee to enable customer care handle my case and I also had to copy the support link to continue chat without opening another ticket.
Note: The guarantee letter is important. I wouldn't advice you continue mixing if you cannot download the guarantee letter.

The message subject is predefined. Maybe to enable the sorting of the complaints to different support team members. But I always like open ended subject. And again, when the chat with support wanted to get confusing, I scrolled up to reply/emphasize one particular message, but there was no provision to quote and reply a particular message. That will be fine to ease communication since typing is the only approved means of communication.

 THINGS TO CHECK IN MIXERS BEFORE USAGE AND HOW [banned mixer] FITS IN 

• Speed : The longer the mix delay, the better the anonymity, but the longer the process of mixing, the more risk of exposure. Tumbler got a balance by letting you control this yourself.
• Fees : The fees are fair and within the range of the general mixer fee  
• Anonymity : Good, and also depends on the actions of the user in terms of parameter settings  
• Number of pay out addresses  : Excellent, user controls time delay among addresses
• Security : It is not only about mixing your bitcoin, but also the guarantee of getting your bitcoin back. [banned mixer] is a new player in BTT community,  but they got a positive start in the bitcoin community which is an indication of reliability. However, time will tell
• Withdrawal delay : Good because it is user controlled
• Support: In the trustless technology, you atleast need someone to talk with when things go wrong. [banned mixer] support is active
• Onion support: [banned mixer] supports privacy browsing, which is a big plus  

  PROS 

• Upto 10 withdrawal addresses  
• Pay as you wish  
• No registration before mixing  
• 0.001 min deposit
• User controlled mixing time
• Availability of mixing code to avoid the return of your coin
• No logs policy
• Fair pricing  
• Customisation of mixing parameters
• Letter of guarantee
• Active support
• Multilingual  

 Mix 1 

Browser: Chrome
Security level: Basic
Output: One address
Fee: 1.09%
Experience: It was a good experience as everything went smooth. The parameters displayed on the site matched with the real life experience of mixing. The only place I had a challenge was sending bitcoin from my wallet to the site, which failed countless times.
But it was resolved as soon as I updated my wallet.
The whole process completed by 2hrs 43mins

 Mix 2 

Browser: Opera
Security level: Premium
Output: Two addresses
Fee: 3.60%
Experience: This wasn't as seamless as the first mix because I tried sending BTC from the exchange and I got high fee which made the BTC fall below the minimum required by Tumbler. I had to begin chat with the support. Although, it is part of the experience of the review. But a reminder to send slightly above the minimum requirements would have saved me the stress

  SUGGESTIONS 

• It will be fine if [banned mixer] can state in clear terms the relationship between the amount of fees paid, the delay in mixing and level of anonymity to be attained
• In the future there might be a need to implement a very new thing in mixing bitcoin which I haven't seen other mixers do before. Something like recommending the right parameters of mixing and the data to recommend will come from the reply of the questionnaire given to the user. This might not be necessary for expert users but newbies might like it to be able to know the right parameters to use. If this make sense, I will be able to provide more insight. Else, it should be discarded.

  CONCLUSION 

I had an awesome experience using this mixer. Thanks Royse777 for the opportunity to review this mixer. It has made me discover a new place to mix with ease and from henceforth I will keep using and reviewing this project. I intentionally didn't write any subheading as CONS of the project because the PROS overwhelmed the cons by a larger percentage. Then, there are some important information that should be available to anyone before they mix. Information as;

• The importance of letter of guarantee
• The importance of mixing code
• How necessary it is to deposit above the minimum deposit  

Welldone [banned mixer], I have seen your avatar contest, signature design contest, this shows you will launch your signature campaign soonest. I wish you the best.

[Stalker22]

[banned mixer] Mixer Review Program #2
Bitcointalk username: Stalker22


Bitcoin mixers, or tumblers as some call them, have turned into a must-have tool for peeps who wanna keep their business on the down-low when they are doing transactions with Bitcoin.  In this review, I am gonna explore [banned mixer], one of the newer Bitcoin mixer services out there nowadays. I didnt participate in the first review campaign, so this will be my first time giving them a go.

Now Im no expert, but I know my way around Bitcoin mixers, and I used them quite a few in the past. From what I can tell [banned mixer] seems like a decent way to mix your Bitcoins if you're worried about prying eyes.  Their setup looks slick and they got all the standard mixing options youd expect. I gave their randomize feature a test run with a few tiny payments and it did a nice job shuffling my coins around before sending them back to my wallet. There is still room for improvement, though.

Security and anonymity:

[banned mixer] is a pretty new Bitcoin mixing service. According to whois data, the domain was registered over five years ago, with the registration expiring in 2026. However, profiles on bitcointalk.org and X (formerly Twitter) platforms were created only in September 2023. The Wayback Machine internet archive does not have previous archived versions of the website. The site uses a free Let's Encrypt SSL certificate and relies on JavaScript for site functionality, but I did not notice calls to third-party sites, which is a good thing. They also provide a .onion mirror link for the TOR network, which is almost a mandatory requirement for anyone who values their online privacy and anonymity.

Reliability:

Although it is a relatively new mixer service, and they still dont have a history or reputation that we can take into account, all reviews and user comments so far have been mostly positive. And the service does not have any apparent red flags that we should watch out for. They have active customer support on the site and their representative on the bitcointalk seems knowledgeable and willing to help. For now, it is a good way to start a new business, and the reputation will come with time.

User Experience:

Alright, so let me talk about using this Bitcoin mixer/tumbler. Sometimes, it can be a bit confusing to use these type of services for the first time, especially if you are new to the whole crypto mixing game. However, the good news is that this is not the case with [banned mixer].
 
First off, The user interface on [banned mixer] is clean, intuitive, and user-friendly. They offer the flexibility of selecting from eight different languages, which can be very helpful if English is not your strong point. [banned mixer] also includes an FAQ section, which addresses the most common questions users might have.

The actual mixing process on [banned mixer] is a breeze, involving just five simple steps:

1. Completing the captcha security code.
2. Filling in the necessary order details, which includes an optional Tumbler code, specifying receiving addresses, and selecting the service fee and delay.
3. Agreeing with the terms of service.
4. Creating the order and executing the deposit.
5. Completing the mixing process.

User support:

[banned mixer] offers on-site support through a contact form, allowing users to address any issues or inquiries they may have. Furthermore, you can reach out to their team via BitcoinTalk and Twitter platforms.

Integration with different browsers:

The service is compatible with different web browsers. When evaluating the service, I used four different web browsers (including mobile and TOR browser) and did not encounter any compatibility issues.


Mixing process:

Mix 1
Browser: Tor Browser 13.0.1 (based on Mozilla Firefox 115.4.0)
Order ID: UP5VHAK8-6117ET
Receiving address(es): 1
Security level: Basic
Service fee: 0.44%
Delay: 16 min



Mix 2
Browser: Google Chrome Version 107 (portable version on an old Win7 laptop)
Receiving address(es): 2
Security level: Standard
Service fee: 1.8%
Delay: 0min / 10 min

Mix 3
Browser: Google Chrome Version 118 (mobile Android 13 version)
Receiving address(es): 1
Security level: Premium
Service fee: 3.6%
Delay: 0min

Price and fees:

Flexible Fees - Tumbler. io lets users pick different fees to get more anonymity. The fee structure starts at a minimum of 0.4% for the Basic Level, goes up to 3.6% for the Premium Level, and caps at a maximum fee of 5%. Additionally, a fixed fee of 0.0002 BTC is added to the dynamic portion for each receiving address.

The variable part is pretty good compared to other mixers - one of the best deals out there.  But that 20,000 satoshi fixed fee per address seems a bit high to me. If you are mixing smaller amounts, it could take a huge bite out of your deposit.  

Overall experience

All my mixing processes went smoothly and without errors, no matter what device or web browser I used. The site is very responsive so it displays well on different screen sizes. I like that the system detects the transaction immediately after the coins are sent and the mixing starts immediately after the first confirmation. The only thing I noticed was that for all outgoing transactions, the transaction fee was significantly higher than what the network required at that moment. I suggest you address this issue and find more efficient methods to estimate fees, which would ultimately help you save on the transaction fees you pay.

Positive Points:

• User-Friendly Experience. The website is intuitive and straightforward.
• The website performs impressively well, even when accessed through Tor.
• The GUI is sleek and well-designed, making navigation a breeze.
• Multilingual Support. This is a big plus for those who prefer to interact in their native language.
• The feature to "delete immediately" for completed orders is a welcome addition.
• The dynamic fee structure is highly competitive compared to other mixers.
• The minimum deposit requirement is quite reasonable, allowing users with various budgets to take advantage of the service.

Negative Points:

• Not a big fan of the fixed BTC fee for each withdrawal address. This may not be ideal for users making multiple smaller transactions.
• There is no easyway to retrieve an old order if you accidentally close the page.
• The website needs clearer explanations about "Tumbler code." How it works and what information the system stores.

[examplens]

[banned mixer] Mixer Review Program #2
Bitcointalk username: examplens

I looked at your reports about the changes you implemented and possibly those you don't want to change, which were suggested in the previous review campaign. So I won't go back much on the already mentioned problems here.
I also understood that you give priority to suggestions, so I won't deal with much, we praise what I am satisfied with. And there are a lot of good things here  

Website design and usability

- I noticed that you do not have a custom error 404 page created, as part of an SEO strategy it is desirable to have that.
- I won't dwell too much on this, but I would like to see a bit more contrast in the dark mode
- Is there a possibility to add a paste from the clipboard button in this address box? I think it would make it easier to use, especially for users with mobile devices. (you already have a copy from the clipboard button in the deposit address field)



- A similar option copy transaction ID in clipboard would be welcome in order review if someone still wants to check their transaction further



- I would add a fee calculator on the fee page. The calculator is available only after starting the mixing process and solving the captcha, so why not make it available to new visitors who want to first research all about your service.
- Hint clouds are a bit complicated, actually their closure. If you open two or more, they must be closed only in the reverse order, and only by clicking on the question mark icon. I tried this on a mobile device as well, it could have become almost frustrating.



- I would add in the FAQ that the mixing time starts from the moment of the first confirmation. It seems banal, but for example, the fee varied quite a bit during my process, so the first confirmation came with a lot of delay. Even though your timer works almost perfectly, I wouldn't be surprised to see someone complaining about the delay of your service, while sending Bitcoin at 2 satoshis per byte.
- I am surprised that you maintain the position that a thread on Bitcointalk is sufficient for support. This is one of the good solutions, but if a potential new user gets stuck with a problem, he has to go through registration on the forum (which he may not have wanted). But what if he encounters an additional problem with registration on the forum, he will feel cheated. It is a very realistic scenario, you can find out more here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5350381.0
- Support chat looks fun, I like it, but as a solution, it seems slow. For example, I sent a request and received a uniform response that I might have to wait 12 hours. If I have a problem and my funds are stuck with you, I might start to panic. Of course, I won't sit next to the chat for 12 hours, but what if someone calls while I'm away, I'll wait for 12 hours again.
- So, one more support channel is probably mandatory.
- Set up a Twitter account or remove it from the page.

Mixing

- For the first mixing, I used the Opera One(version: 103.0.4928.34) browser
- I used Basic security level, and P2SH as the final destination address
- I think I already suggested this. Without downloading the letter of guarantee, it should not be possible to continue the whole process. I'm sure some don't understand the importance of that.
- In the whole process, I did not come across any unclear steps and everything went without any ambiguities.



- Although it's not a big deal, Blockchair found a privacy issue (I saw that you already shared their report)

Matched addresses identified
Using several indicators we were able to link the similar types of addresses involved in this transaction. We identified which of the recipient addresses possibly belong to one or more senders. Such matching significantly reduces the anonymity of addresses.

- Of course, I did the second mixing using the TOR site
- Now, I use the PREMIUM security level, using two deposit addresses, one bech32 and one taproot.
- I used the mixing code obtained in the previous review campaign and after checking, I did not manage to find a connection with my previous coins, nor in the other transaction.
- Although it is a premium level, I still expected a higher level of anonymity. It is very easy to connect that I received bitcoins from the same source at both addresses. This needs to be improved.



- I'm not sure if it's because I put too short a time gap between the two addresses for the deposit delay. Maybe I should try again, the first transaction to be after 30 minutes and the second after 70 hours. Would that change the matter? If this has an impact, you should mention it during mixing or at least in the FAQ section.
- I think I saw your statement somewhere that you will use all types of addresses to increase the level of anonymity, but on your side, I didn't notice you using any other than bech32. (Correct me if I'm wrong)

I can't resist the feeling that I forgot to write something.   When I remember, I will probably continue in the ANN thread


It was really fun for me to participate in your campaigns, I hope you got useful suggestions.
Good luck with your business.

[Igebotz]

[banned mixer] Mixer Review Program #2
Bitcointalk username: Igebotz

The website overview:

This is my first review of this project and my first visit; the UI/UX design is extremely nice, easy to browse, and the option to change between dark and white mode is what initially draws my attention. Because the other mixers I use do not have this option, you have a +1 edge.


Mixing experience

#Mix 1
Browser used: Mozilla Firefox Browser
version: 118.0.1 ( old version)
system: 64-bit
security level: Basic
Receiving address(s): 1
Amount mixed: 0.003BTC
service fees: 1.76%
order ID: VAGL4GVP-6HL***
Delay time. 59mins


#mix 2
Browser used: Brave Browser
version: Version: 1.3.361.133
system: 64-bit
security level: Premium
Receiving address(s): 1
Amount mixed:  0.003BTC
service fees: 5%
Order ID: 9OJ66AOD-3WM***
Delay time. 1hr:30mins


The process runs smoothly on both browsers, as I had no issues with the site while using these browsers with VPN, but where I had some issues, which is not something I would have done, if I wasn't an experienced user, I would have moved on to the next available mixer that doesn't require me to set up my own mix manually. I'm the type of user who wants whatever I'm paying for to be set up automatically without my intervention (and perhaps an edit button for those who prefer to put it up manually). If I'm paying for the premium service, I expect the system to recommend the ideal mixing time and anonymity level for what I'm paying for rather than requiring me to set it up manually. What's the point of paying for Premium if I can still choose my own level of anonymity? As previously said, a newbie with little experience will ultimately hit a roadblock here.




Letter of Guarantor

The way it's been placed is similar to other mixers I've used, and the way it's been placed one may easily forget to download it; it should be programmed in such a way that downloading it is mandatory before starting to mix. If you want to be the champion in this field, you must do things differently from your competition.

Mixing fees


The premium 5% fees is unusually high; most mixers' higher max is 2.5% - 3%. My current mixer charges a maximum of 2.5%, so why should I pay 5% for your premium service when I am able to pay half that fee elsewhere? What distinguishes your premium service from the competition? This is an honest question, and I need to be convinced of the need to pay 5% for your premium service.

FAQ

I'm not a native English speaker, but I could tell right away that there was a grammatical issue since the original sentence makes no sense. nothing kills me more than grammatical error on a huge project like this. fix it up

After the creation of the order, you will see the minimum and maximum amount for the transaction, which is from 0.001 up to 10 BTC. In case you sent us less than the minimum, that would be concerned that a donation considered as a donation. In case you would like to mix a higher amount, please feel free to contact us through the support form, and we will answer you as soon as possible.

Support.

I got into some minor trouble and chatted with support, it took them some time to respond back after I submitted my letter of guarantor for verification, and when they finally responded, he/she stayed up with me and was very helpful and made everything very clear to me, i got my initial deposit below the minimum deposit back despite a mistake on my end, i input the wrong digit despite it being clearly stated that a deposit below the minimum will be considered as a donation. I'm not sure why you guys didn't follow through on that; I was delighted to get my coin back, but rules are rules, and if you don't have the courage to follow them, don't make them in the first place. That's my principle


Conclusion/recommendation

The site is quick and simple to use, and aside from a few minor issues that I raised, the mixer market is fiercely competitive, and you don't want to leave any stone unattended. Take into account any recommendations and concerns offered.  I'll try it again in a month and then provide honest feedback on Project ANN. Goodluck. This is all for now.

[examplens]

• At the footer of the homepage, I saw the "X" icon, I didn't know what is was doing there until I clicked it and discovered it is a close icon. It will be fine that you use the word "CLOSE" in red colour as the icon doesn't sooth there. It looks like a social media handle icon.
  

This "X" is a new Twitter logo, and here on the Tumbler site, it does not have the function of closing the page. I just checked it myself on a mobile device and clicking on the X takes me to the [banned mixer] Twitter account. Maybe it confused you because a new page opens automatically when you click, that is, the Twitter application.
Just close it and you will be returned to the [banned mixer] site.

[Stalker22]

• At the footer of the homepage, I saw the "X" icon, I didn't know what is was doing there until I clicked it and discovered it is a close icon. It will be fine that you use the word "CLOSE" in red colour as the icon doesn't sooth there. It looks like a social media handle icon.

This "X" is a new Twitter logo, and here on the Tumbler site, it does not have the function of closing the page. I just checked it myself on a mobile device and clicking on the X takes me to the [banned mixer] Twitter account. Maybe it confused you because a new page opens automatically when you click, that is, the Twitter application.
Just close it and you will be returned to the [banned mixer] site.

Yeah. I saw that part of his review too and was confused.  When I went to the Tumber site, it looked fine to me, so thought maybe there was some bug before that Tumber has fixed in the meantime.

Also dont really get the complaint about the BitcoinTalk link. I feel like the Bitcoin logo makes perfect sense there.  No reason to change it to something more confusing when the logo is so familiar already. Using BTT abbreviation  instead could definitely throw some people off.

[KingsDen]

• At the footer of the homepage, I saw the "X" icon, I didn't know what is was doing there until I clicked it and discovered it is a close icon. It will be fine that you use the word "CLOSE" in red colour as the icon doesn't sooth there. It looks like a social media handle icon.
  

This "X" is a new Twitter logo, and here on the Tumbler site, it does not have the function of closing the page.

Yea, it is redirecting to twitter now. As at when I was reviewing the site, it gave a warning to close all sessions when I clicked it.

Also dont really get the complaint about the BitcoinTalk link. I feel like the Bitcoin logo makes perfect sense there.  No reason to change it to something more confusing when the logo is so familiar already. Using BTT abbreviation  instead could definitely throw some people off.

This might not be a trouble to you because you know BTT. A random user might... Besides, I once stumbled on a thread proposing logo for bitcointalk rather than using the general bitcoin logo. It was during the review I appreciated the thread.
When I clicked the bitcoin logo, I expected two things; either to be taken to a bitcoin wallet or to be given a random bitcoin by [banned mixer]  It could literarily mean anything relating to bitcoin. Anyways, that isn't a big issue.[/list]

[Harkorede]

Bitcointalk username: Harkorede
Bitcointalk Rank: Hero Member
Lifetime earned merit: 759
Bech32 address: bc1qaxtu60ryrd0sy9v4478ll0t2wjlvmhya23hh3n

[AB de Royse777]

Code:

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Accepted for group#2. Please submit your review before the deadline (given on the spreadsheet)

Ratimov and TryNinja please feel free to start your review. I will need bech32 address from you two.

We are CFNP in this campaign now.

[TryNinja]

Ratimov and TryNinja please feel free to start your review. I will need bech32 address from you two.

bc1q7avzar9er75wtjmxmxn5ah2rsxgk3qu2jf3dpe

[Trofo]

[banned mixer] Mixer Review Program #2
Bitcointalk username: Trofo

This is my second review of [banned mixer] so I have tried another two browsers Opera and Pale Moon. Again page looked ok in both and I had no problems. I have read some of the other reviews and answers provided by the team and they cover most of my points from the first try. Not gonna repeat myself so this will be a bit shorter review focused mainly on Tumbler code for next order.

My first mix was standard security with fast return of funds while my second one was premium with almost max delay.






Everything passed as expected and without any issues.

Used my 50% off discount for both mixes and it worked perfectly.



After mixing I checked receiving coins and there weren't any red flags apparent to me. So I suppose mixing was done well enough. My coins were also accepted without any problems on services I used them later on.



Tumbler code for next order.
This is the part that makes me feel like it is a giant privacy problem and one I will focus in my review
1. I know this is just testing phase, but still it shouldn't be probable that I receive my own coins back and that I have to use code to avoid that.
2. How does that work if I mix 3 times? I always get just one code. What is guarantee that if I use code from Mix 2 when doing Mix 3 I will not get coins I sent in Mix? Does the code stack up (code after Mix 2, has code from Mix 1 included as well) for future mixes? Doubt it. If it does it means you are keeping records which is again privacy issue.
3. I have 50% off from my first review. I don't see a way to use discount code and code for the next order at the same time. Maybe we should get separate box to input that one?
4. Isn't 50% discount lifetime a big privacy risk? Where are codes stored from Tumbler side? What if the get out one day? Don't just say impossible, leaks happen all the time or authorities can find ways to make companies give over data. All my mixes will be connected trough that one code.

My remarks:
I wrote last time that I would like to get a link to how the mixing works internally on site when I am using it. That is not for everybody but advanced users would probably like to take a peak. Tumbler code is a big unknown for me and if I had to use Tumbler for actual real world reasons I would never use my 50% discount. It isn't explained properly and at the moment I don't know what kind of explanation you could provide that I would say, ok that is perfectly safe then. Seems to me that privacy in mixing is much more important that any discounts and I would work toward excluding anything that help connect customers with transactions in the future.


Note to Royse and Tumbler

I am aware this review is shorter and maybe not up to the my usual standards on first look. It is intentionally written that way since all other comments I had previously or would make now have already been addressed by the team and other reviewers and I see no point in repeating them. I concentrated on one point I did not see raised so far which bothers me a lot from privacy view. I am not doing this for the money, I genuinely want to see best possible crypto services and I have no problem if you feel this review is not worth the reward.

[UmerIdrees]

[banned mixer] Mixer Review Program #2
Bitcointalk username: umeridrees

I decided to review the mixer on two browsers on my Windows 10 computer.
1-Chrome  (Standard Mixing)
2- Firefox.  (Premium Mixing)

For the first one, I did a standard mixing on chrome and then i did a premium mixing using the firefox browser. Although both the processes were smooth, however i will discuss the pro and cons of using this service.

Mixing #1

Browser: Chrome
Security Level: Standard
The amount that i sent: 0.002 BTC
The amount i should receive:- 0.001763 BTC as shown by the Fee Calculator
My Receiving address:  bc1qy4yt2qdaflkhz56yfvs0uy0hdpkxckhujukt7a

Since i used a single address, the time it showed me 3hrs and 8 mins by default. Also i noticed that below 1.8% the security level will be Basic, since i opted for a standard level, i choose the service fee as 1.85%.
Also i adjusted the delay to 5 mins and the Anonymizing meter showed it a fair one. Above 1 hr, it was showing as a good, fair enough in my opinion.

Before sending, i noticed that there is a time limit to the mixer deposit address of 24 hours, so i checked the mempool to get the latest update on the fee, so i do not set too low fee. I wonder what happen if some sends a too low fee and the transcation is not confirmed in 24 hrs ?


I send  0.002 BTC to the mixer generator address bc1qhephjkdfrp5rhkl6254ahnyfrqf3xqjtrpu2nt
Tx ID: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/9e31f8f099e9b8a7d8aa3c648e49b6dcf5558c21520bbd9d739e17fcdc46414f

https://[banned mixer]/order#A7UH7CG8-3JNKG0



Although i set a delay of 5 minutes, it took little longer than that to get my coins mix, approx 7-8 mins or so. However the quantity receive was exactly as calculated before in the fee calculator.




My receving tx is https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/ea64ae3f15ad4ab940eb744f1146c09db3ca78a60f0d8113eb080a6fdaeb07ce

The transaction fee here was 24 v/bytes which is overpaid a lot.

I got my coins from this sending address: bc1qwvl5tv7ldh5cgzt8j8lzhnv4l9gtunx8266kx9


I check the privacy at transcation at Blockchair and it showed 100% privacy health.


Before moving to the next address, i tried to explorer this address from where i received my mixed coins
bc1qwvl5tv7ldh5cgzt8j8lzhnv4l9gtunx8266kx9 and i found that this address by funded by 12kvS1EWnQTQBgvwwsaMPbzypQRXebubuL which had the balance around 10 BTC and had recived 423 BTC. I don't know if this should be a concern  





Mixing #2

Browser: Firefox
Security Level: Premium
The amount that i sent: 0.002 BTC
The amount i should receive:- 0.0017272 BTC as shown by the Fee Calculator
My Receiving address: bc1qqn03yuz9hhc3zryrkm2t7e4qfzyxcudlda9vj3
Service fee:3.64%
Delay: 15 mins

This time i send 0.002 BTC to the mixer generated address :- bc1qfyhsjad6fcke86x5fu3h90tv0xtkphkch9n3u2
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/775509f5f3b3e8a6055d5fed47ddd686ceb57fd71b2cae4b36be90c779c9000c

https://[banned mixer]/order#XFADI2HU-39EBWG




My receving tx is https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/1b4cfc4e4d10cfe0610a99408b8b6564897f8ec90f2f8377d2ec0b9df315fea8

The transaction fee here was 24 v/bytes which is again overpaid and same as the previous. I wonder if they have set a 24 sat to be the bydefault fee ?

I got my coins from this sending address: bc1qgwsjux3zhxdj0qz4w6gzyx024vh5sre70m2yhh


I check the privacy at transcation at Blockchair and it showed 100% privacy health. Good one.
I tried to explorer the sending address but nothing found by me, so i can say no issues detected. Maybe becasue i am using the premium mixing this time.


General Observations and suggestions:-

1- I deliberately entered the Captcha wrong, however, it took some time (more than a few seconds) to let me know that the captcha i entered is incorrect. Although not a big deal, but the response time can be increased.

2- The security level can only be selected by move the slide bar. At first, when i used this mixer, i was wondering how to change it from Standard to basic or premium and later realized that it has to do with the movement of the slider bar. Perhaps a drop down box in front of "Security level" can be a good idea.

3- The mixer generated address is valid for 24 hours. Since mempool becomes congested sometimes, it may be good to increase the timer. and what happens if the transcation is not confirmed within 24 hrs ?

4- Downloading the letter of grantee is optional, why not make it mandatory? This is my suggestion as this will help those who are mixing. Normally people will ignore and not download the letter of grantee once they feel comfortable with the mixer after using it multiple times. (maybe ask to tick in the checkbox that the letter of grantee is downloaded before proceeding ? )

5- One thing which I had no clue of is this tumbler code for the next order shown when the order is finished. Do we need to keep it save and input it in the next order? Without this code, privacy may be effected? I think you should add a note feature explaining the purpose of this code.

6- Tumbler does keep the log / order history for 24 hours. Some other mixers like Sinbad not keep it at all.
However good thing is that for those who want to delete, they have the option to delete it immediately.

7- For every receiving address, I would have to pay 0.002 BTC fee, this could add up considerably if the receiving address is more and the amount to mix is less. Maybe the fee can be decreased dynamically for each receiving address?

Good things And final thoughts

1 -Clean and easy to use website interface. Didn't have unnecessary graphics to distract the users.

2- Good solid mixing experience. No long delays or bugs were found in the mixing process.

3- The fee calculator accurately calculates the fees.

4- Easily adjustable service fees and Delays

My experience with the mixer was a good one, especially when I used the premium mixer I was much satisfied with the results. Will use it for my mixing purposes and share if I find anything new.

[stompix]

So here we are,  round 2!

[banned mixer] Mixer Review Program #2
Bitcointalk username: Stompix

Since I was part of the first round I would insist less on the first impression in design and accessibility, not because I feel lazy but because I feel like those things have been already touched and discussed enough and that there is no humongous change that can be done or something of great impact with a real effect on the number of users or user retention, so no point beating a dead horse  and will concentrate my efforts on the two aspects I think are the most important:
- Mixing
- Economics

Before we go full steam to those two there is a thing worth mentioning
- In the first review I was impressed with the speed despite cycling through VPNs, I even mentioned that it was quite an incredible experience after a DDOS attack, well, when I did my test on Saturday it felt sluggish like every action needed a few seconds to really kick in, probably a security measure in place but this was my impression, quit the delay when you mistype the captcha also, and damn all the 2 look like 9 in the one I got!

So straight to Mixing
Since this is also a test and not just a review of look how cool your website is give me money for applauding, and moreover since there were previous issues with the links between mixed transactions I decided to act like the average Joe would when mixing a few coins and see the outcome when doing something not that smart.

I used a few mbits in my personal address that has a history of getting coins from anywhere and decided to split directly from it for two mixing processes:
*Note that I erased the addresses by habit, nothing really worth censoring there but I said since it's mixing afterall..

You will see why I'm combining the result of the mixing for a single conclusion further on!

Number one:  Chrome, over clearnet, premium!

Funding from the personal address used the discount coupon I received in the first review, chose to split over two receiving addresses with really close receiving times, 25.09% to bc* after 103 min., 74.91% to bc* after 209 min,




Number two : Firefox, clearnet , standard!

Funding from the same personal address used the discount coupon again chose to split over two receiving addresses 25.16% to bc* 65 min., 74.84% to bc1* after 152 min.



Need to mention that I did the mixing at almost the same time, choosing the delays to fit quite close to see what kind of risks would the average Joe expose himself while doing this!

And this is the point where, to be honest, I was impressed!

But let's leave the congratulations for a bit later and focus on some issues, the fee tracking is still possible, all for funding tx had 24 and 24.1 sat/b and I think there is something you need to tune on the estimator. Out of 4 one got really close to being optimal, with the lowest fee in the block being 17, the other three overpaid the minim tx by 3x or 4x. But since you're probably emphasizing delivering right on time you have taken this overpayment into account, nevertheless, I would advise on randomization for this, make it like at least 24.7 and 24.1 or 23.9 and 25.2

Now for the results and the congratulations:


*Note that the graph was looking like this somewhere Sunday afternoon, it has grown a lot and I can't really track if there are converging points!

A complete improvement on the previous mixing, I had to go a few steps back to find a link between a branch
The funding to the addresses that sent me the coins happened on the :

• 26 October and 18 October
• 20 October and 25 October
  

Of course, I'm definitely reading what others have done previously and I did check their results, now I don't know if I was just lucky because the amounts I was mixing happened to trigger a different path, there was a change in the algo, other persons where mixing at the same time but I would rate this as pretty good for the average stupid bot that follows transactions up the chain no more than 5 steps. I can find related tracks with a few more steps but, the thing is that I know the ending points for it!

Some sort of rant!
I would not rate the outcome of the premium mixing over the standard and going through the funding chains I would, to be honest rate the standard one as coming from a far more complicated tumbler tree, I don't know if this is because of demand or source of funds but this is the first impression!

Recomdantion:
Do not allow users to select intervals with less than one hour between them, make the system idiot-proof as there at some point there will be guys who will just slide that as close as possible and with a lot of luck in a mining block and a delay of 30-50 minutes to the next one all of them will be bunched in the same block, not really the outcome you want from mixing!

Related low-importance mentions:
I am no fan of AML bots, I completely distrust the score, I even had some issues on this forum when some idiot believed what that bot tagged and decided himslef to tag funds as suspicious when in reality the funds were coming from crypto(dot)com so I will not put that much trust in their score, which, was all over the place! No joke, seriously all over the place so the results are just something to be ignored. The privacy score on blockchair, which I did want to mention, as a further joke, my own address has a privacy score of 2 but the ones being funded from it have an over 60 score, so I would advise anyone not to even look at that thing, it is even more flawed than AML bots which is a feat to be noted!

Economics!

I must say from the start this is the user in me talking although I will try as much as possible to view this from a business side, as I know how hard it is to run one and how costs that rain on you out of the blue give you sleepless nights.

I am against mixing small amounts, I think it's really bad, you end up with small inputs all over that you will make the mistake of consolidating, and you waste money for nothing. Having by chance the opportunity to test the mixing with leftovers just reinforced my opinion, I usually don't pay attention to numbers that far over zero but in this case, I sent ‎0.00564 to get ‎0.004, and this with a discount code, two mixing in 4 outputs from $193 to $138!

Honest recommendation, increase the minimum mixing, this sum it's not worth for money you make as I analyzed on that tree how much you spend on fees alone and it is a bit of a waste. The 0.0002 for each address is another nail in the coffin for a small amount, to which again, I see no purpose to be honest other than testing! Maybe leave this for a while as you gain reputation since no one with a sane mind would bump 5 BTC to a brand new mixing in a single batch but in the long run dump it and raise it at least to 0.005 for each mixing! If somehow BTC goes up to 100k maybe drop it but allowing mixing for $30 is ...

The other part is the fee for each address!
Of course, every user would think about his own money first, but I think there might be some way around it!
Make the charge for 1-3/5 addresses, don't charge for extra addresses over 10, more outputs help the mixing, it gives you an opportunity to use smaller inputs, it will please privacy freaks and will not really affect the average Joe who by default will only use max 2 -3.

The coupon!

This is a sensitive and personal issue as others have mentioned.
I am grateful for the 50% discount received, I do understand what hit you're looking at since we talk about 2.5% for a premium, for one BTC  at current rates its nearly one grand but I am a bit uncertain of really using it. It's a matter of trust and this is an opinion, if I am going to cycle sums worth mentioning from a casino through one or two mixers till it hits my cold storage, I would probably take the 2.5% hit myself or just go for the standard cheaper option and not put a tracking thing on it.

Don't take me wrong on this but it's a thing of trust, we all trusted CM, I was in a sig campaign for them for what, 5 years, I don't even remember, I trusted them with my coins, and then when s*** hit the fan, to find out that 7 terabytes of data have been seized. Where it just nodes? Where it actual logs? Was it porn?
Nobody knows but we're circling to the first issue, trust, and trust after all these experiences it's a bit hard to gain, especially in this type of business!

[un_rank]

[banned mixer] Mixer Review Program #2
Bitcointalk username: un_rank
Finding [banned mixer]
This is my first review of the [banned mixer] website and its functionalities. Before I get to the actual review I tried the possibility of someone not from this forum discovering the website, I searched across different search engines:

- Google,
- Bing,
- Duckduckgo.

...and I used specific keywords on all of them "Bitcoin mixer", "Best bitcoin mixer", "safe bitcoin mixer", "Bitcoin tumbler".
None of my search results (1st page) showed the tumbler website or a ranking where it was mentioned, but I came across a couple of competing services.
I am not giving the team any sticks for this cause SEO rankings take time to grow organically and the team could already be working on it behind the scenes. This is just the perspective of a user trying to find the a mixer to use randomly.

To the review;

Website Functionality
First I am testing out the overall website functionality and how easy it is to navigate.
● My first impression is that it is a decent website which works great on different browsers on mobile or desktop.
● There is an image in the front page which gives the impression of a video with a play button but does not lead anywhere, that could be confusing to first timers.
● The "Last Articles" could be better written as "Latest Articles". The word last always has an undertone to it that does not encourage others to delve further.
● Overall, I feel the website could be designed better. The 4 Hallmarks could be better positioned for the reader to see that as the first or second thing on the page, no the read more section. Things like that gives confidence to the person visiting the site for the first time and should be difficult to miss.

MIX 1

I am using Firefox version 119.0 on desktop.
Security level - Premium
Service Fee - 3.99%
Amount sent - 0.0015BTC
2 receiving Addresses.
Delay time between the two addresses
~ 6 hours 45 minutes
~ 3 hours 5 minutes



Pros
● Majority of the previous suggestions and complaints has been corrected already, which shows responsiveness.
● The site synced really well. In real time in recognized the incoming transaction and the confirmation was recorded almost immediately after it got the first confirmation.
● I manually calculated the fees paid along with the final payout and the fee calculator gave the correct figure.
● I monitored the first transaction, it was sent out instantaneously after the delay time elapsed which is a faster response time than some other mixers.
● The transaction was sent with a feerate of 11.4sat/vbyte, which got confirmed at a decent speed. Not too fast or slow for the current network status.
● Using two different explorers, it gave a high privacy rating.

Cons
● The service fee is competitively high. It could be one or two percent lower to attract more users.
● I think there should be an option to manually choose the exact feerate you want on the receiving transaction or to choose between, low, medium or high priority.

MIX 2

I am using microsoft edge version 109.0 on mobile
Security level - Standard
Service fee - 2.20%
Amount sent - 0.0011BTC
1 receiving address
Delay time - 0 hours 16 minutes.

Pros
● The website still worked seamlessly, did not give off the impression that the team was prioritizing the desktop version which I get on many websites, including yours truly.
● Cause there was no much difference all other pros from the first mix apply here.

Cons
● I noticed that the response time was slightly slower on mobile than desktop using the same internet speed (could be from my end, cause I did not clear cache to try again). But the sync time was still decent to record when the transaction was made and confirmed. The desktop view on the mobile phone also worked neatly, although it highlighted the large "play" video just sitting at the center of the screen which I talked about earlier.
● The standard privacy level gave very similar results to the premium which was used in the first mix.


Suggestions;
The website is great and has improved a lot since it started this review campaign which shows the team is really motivated to work and improve the website, but here are some of my suggestions for how it can be better;


● The letter of guarantee should be highlighted more. It is very easy to miss after using the mixer a couple of times and will save users time if they are always reminded to download it in the event of an order issue.
● I will keep this open and add more suggestions as I mix tweaking the features more.

- Jay -

[Z-tight]

[banned mixer] Mixer Review Program #2
Bitcointalk username: Z-tight
I was not involved in the first review, but i read a lot of reviews on it to be sure that all the good suggestions were implemented, and i even read all your replies to suggestions and recommendations here, and i can confirm that the website has implemented most of the necessary suggestions and they are working fine. Since so many users have reviewed the site and made their contributions on how to make this service better, i have used the website now and this is my review on its functionality after review #1:

My first mix
Browser: DuckDuckGo
Version: 7.70.60
Service Fee: 1.80%
Security level: Standard

The mixing process is very easy and the site's UI is so good, i used two receiving addresses with different delay time and receiving percentage as can be seen in the image below:

1. I tested to see what would happen if you input the same receiving address twice and if you do so, you get the error message that: "Addresses must be different", the website also detects an invalid address and gives the warning that the address is invalid, which are both very good.

2. I noticed that the higher the service fee, the higher the security level, is that true? So what makes 'basic' of a lower security level than let's say 'premium'? Is it easier for blockchain analysis companies to link your input to output if you use a fee for basic security level?

3. I did my mixing today, and i don't know of previously, but the site was very slow.

4. The delay time is in both hours and minutes, and it is great and so easy to use the slider to choose your preferred delay time, as well as the percentage allocation.

The next process is to send the coins you want to mix into the deposit address provided for you by the mixer, and download the letter of guarantee. Can you add at least one reason why it is important to download the letter of guarantee, especially for newbies; let's say:"Please download the letter guarantee before a transfer, it is your proof of tx and is essential in cases of disputes".

The mixer is quick to update once you have broadcasted your tx and it only takes one confirmation for the mixing to start.
1. There is a countdown time based on the delay you chose and you can follow it to know when your coins will arrive in your wallet

2. I received the funds in my first address immediately the countdown was over, but for my second address the funds is still unconfirmed because fee rate in the mempool went high, what happens when the mixer pays a certain fee and then fee rate spikes and the funds remain uncomfirmed for a long time?

3. The mixing process indicates 'finished' once the delay time is over, but just like in my case where my receiving tx is still unconfirmed, wouldn't it be better if the mixer waited for at least one confirmation on the receiving addresses before marking the process as finished.

my second mix
Browser: Safari
Service fee: 3.60%
Security level: Premium

The second mix went as smoothly as the first, i tried this one in dark mode and i can confirm that it works very smoothly and is good for the eye. Taproot address format wasn't initially supported, but you said it has been added, so i tested it, it was not my receiving address for this mix, but i inputed a taproot address to see if it is compatible in the site, and it is:

Other than that, i closed the tab in order to test the order link and it works perfectly, it just takes you straight back to where your left off. To contact support, you as asked to input your name, i know that you can add any pseudonym, but for newbies who are not so informed, they may input their real name, is it necessary to keep that part when contacting support.

Conclusion and suggestions
- The website is user-friendly, and even a newbie can use it and mix their coins without any trouble.
- I can confirm that after the first review a lot of changes have been done to the website for overall better functionality.
- The service fee and fee per each receiving address is kind of expensive to be honest.
- Some mixers have failed and disappointed the community, how do you intend to win over the 'trust' of the community to use your service.
-  The fee calculator is accurate.
- Do you have a fixed fee for sending out payments.
- Goodluck in your business here.

[Yatsan]

[banned mixer] Mixer Review Program #2
Bitcointalk username: Yatsan


User Interface review:


Upon visiting the website, it's immediately noticeable that the interface is clean and crisp. The loading time is exceptional compared to other mixers. The animations are smooth, and it’s noteworthy that they synchronize perfectly with the scroll speed without any glitches. These things are a plus for the website’s overall speed and smoothness.



I also noticed some issues. The first is with the "What is Tumbler?" video, and it’s currently not working. My suggestion would be to temporarily remove it to maintain the site’s professionalism and aesthetic appeal until the video content is ready for display.



There’s also inconsistency in the size of the social media logos presented (Bitcointalk and Twitter). Their current appearance is somewhat disorganized. My suggestion is to align those logos with the Tumblr theme first and fix the sizing before adding them to the website.



In terms of branding, the website presents itself well. However, from an artistic standpoint, it seems to lack a unique branding identity. Despite its good looks, the website appears somewhat generic when compared with other mixers that do have a strong branding identity.

In conclusion, the website does a good job in various aspects, particularly in functionality and basic design elements, but could benefit from improvements in video content display, logo uniformity, and a unique branding approach to elevate its overall charisma and user interface.


Mixing Review:


Mix: #1

Browser: Brave v1.59.124

Security Level: Premium

Service fee: 4.56%

Amount Sent: 0.0015

Time sent: 16:24

Amount/Time Should Receive:

Wallet 1: 0.00040516 should receive around 18:27 (2hrs 3mins)

Wallet 2: 0.00021214 should receive around 19:38 (3hrs 14mins)

Wallet 3: 0.0002143 should receive around 20:37 (4hrs 13mins)

Amount/Time Actually Receive:

Wallet 1: 0.00040516 received at 19:02 (2hrs 38mins)

Wallet 2: 0.00021214 received at 19:53 (3hrs 29mins)

Wallet 3: 0.0002143 received at 20:49 (4hrs 25mins)




User Experience for the First Mix: Everything proceeded as planned, and all aspects were as basic as they should be. There were no issues whatsoever, ensuring that the coins were properly mixed. Delete immediately is a huge plus for me also.


Mix: #2

Browser: Tor Browser

Security Level: Standard

Service fee: 2.13%

Amount Sent: 0.001621

Time sent: 00:13

Amount/Time Should Receive:

Wallet 1: 0.00138647 should receive around 07:12 (6hrs 59mins)

Amount/Time Actually Receive:

Wallet 1: 0.00138647 received at 07:18 (7hrs 5mins)




User Experience for the Second Mix: Everything is still smooth on my second mix and all goes according to plan, no red flags and the service does its thing. However, after my mixing experience, I tried my best to trace and track my sending address on-chain but had no luck connecting it.


Overall Evaluation and Recommendations


Letter of Guarantor:
I strongly recommend making this a mandatory requirement rather than an optional one. I don’t see any downside to doing this. Doing so would reduce the hassle to users who forgot to download it.

Mixing time:
All timestamps are respected, with minor adjustments made based on blockchain confirmations. This performance is very good, especially when compared to other mixers.

Mixing fee:
Expensive compared to competitors. At its current price, I will not use it, even though it’s a good mixer. There are many other mixers that provide the same level of security for half the price. My suggestion is to lower the price to make it more competitive

Discount code:
What’s stopping me from sharing the discount code here on the forum or any other social media website? If I share it and other users use it, will my address or my identity be linked to it? Does this mean you guys are storing my data? My suggestion is to simply disable the discount code altogether and lower the mixing fee entirely.

Final Thoughts:
For my overall user experience on mixing with Tumblr, it’s 5/5 no doubt with that. the platform excels with its user-friendly interface and robust functionality. However, the pricing is a deal breaker for me, for the amount that I spent on my first and second mix I would rather proceed with a competitor. I recommend reviewing and adjusting the pricing strategy to become more market-competitive. Best wishes for the continued and future success of your platform!

[joker_josue]

[banned mixer] Mixer Review Program #2
Bitcointalk username: joker_josue

#INTRO
Since this was their first time using the platform, I cannot assess what changes were made before this second phase of revisions. Therefore, I tried to focus on how the platform itself works, based on my previous experiences with other mixes. I also tried to understand how the site works and situations that can be improved for Tumbler users.

All tests carried out were carried out on a computer with original Windows 11 and with all updates, as well as the browsers used (Chrome and Edge), on a fiber internet connection with 500MBits of speed.

#WEBSITE
I found the website modern and with a lot of information about the mixing service, with clear and easy-to-understand information. We easily find information about /fee]service costs, with a button directly in the top menu, and I think this is very good.
 
There is also a very complex /faq]FAQ available that answers many questions about the platform and what to do in the most varied situations that may arise.
Suggestion: Since there is a wide variety of types of questions answered in the FAQ, I suggested the implementation of subtopics, allowing people to go more quickly to the topic they want to obtain information about. It could be divided into topics, such as: Info Tumbler (response about the website); Mixing (answer about how the mix is made); Problems (answers about problems that may occur), among others.

Another point that I found interesting was the way Tumbler provides support, giving the user the possibility of contacting the service team anonymously.

Suggestion: I noticed that whenever the support pop-up opens, the user is automatically assigned a name - which I think is a good thing. But, I got the idea that it is always the same name given "John Doe". Wouldn't it be interesting and easier for you to manage support if the automatically assigned name was different every time? Maybe this can be done and I don't know, but here's a tip.

Although the site is responsive, and has the button to start the mix in both the menu and the initial header, in smaller resolutions this button is no longer visible.

Suggestion: It could be interesting somehow, in smaller resolutions, to have a button at the top of the page. This allowed the user to not have to click on the menu button or scroll to see the mix button. This would speed up the use of the website on any device.

On the home page, in the "What is Tumbler?" allegedly there is a video, but when you click play nothing happens.
Suggestion: Is it something that is still in development? If so, it would be a good idea to give that indication or remove it from the website until it is ready. If it is a bug, you should check the situation.


#MIX 1
Date: 28/10/2023 12h30 UTC +1
Browser: Chrome - Clearnet
Security level: Standard fee 2.5%
Delay: 4h
Order: QDRD675K-2IDR0H

When starting the mix, the first thing you have to do is fill out a captcha. Although I didn't see a problem with that, I noticed that it took several seconds (enough to have noticed) for the captcha to appear and then to be validated.

Next, the settings we want to use in our mix appear - I used them as already mentioned. In the "Fee calculator" option, I detected a bug, which despite being irrelevant to the operation of the mix, can be annoying.
When you write a value that you want to use and it is not the most suitable for privacy, an alert appears - something that I really liked.

But, when you change the value, the pop-up symbol disappears, but it remains on the page, and no matter where you click or scroll, it doesn't leave the page.

Suggestion: It would be good to review this situation, because it can be annoying, as the only way I managed to remove the pop-up was to use the calculation value where the alert appears and click on the symbol again, or continue the mixing process.

The next step is a page where you have to approve the terms of service, remembering the conditions under which it is used. A very positive aspect, in my opinion.


Then we have the page with all the information about the mixing process, deposit address, time and point at which the mixing process is, the possibility of downloading the letter of guarantee, and the overview of the order which tells the value which will be received after all fees have been paid.

At the end of the process, we are given the code for future mixing so that the coins already sent are not used and we are informed of the txid of the transaction.

Blockchain Analysis: I'm not an expert in blockchain analysis, but I decided to try to understand how the mixing chain is made, by looking at the Tumbler mix transactions. I noticed that I sent the BTC to an address that had that balance and it was not sent anywhere. Well, maybe other mixing systems also work like this, I never took the time to research, I just wanted to do it in this case. For me, not being an expert, I found the method very interesting.


#MIX 2
Date: 29/10/2023 15h50 UTC +0
Browser: Edge - Clearnet
Security level: Premium fee 3.9%
Delay: 4h
Order: 54SQKKKE-FRPWDY

Overall, it seemed like the site loaded slightly faster on Edge. Even the captcha loading time, although it also took a few seconds, was slightly faster than in Chrome. On the other hand, I had the feeling that it took a little longer to go from step 3 (terms) to 4 (mix progress).

The bug, already mentioned, related to the privacy alert pop-up based on the amount to be sent, remained. Otherwise, the process proceeded normally, with behavior equivalent to mix 1.

It should also be noted that at the end of the process, in addition to what has already been mentioned, the page also presents the code to be used in the next mix, with the aim of avoiding receiving coins already sent again. As well as a button to start a new mix.

And also on this page, we are informed that the information from this mix will be automatically deleted (this information was also available in the previous test).


Blockchain Analysis: I noticed that the BTC received came from an address that had not been used for 3 days. But when I did mix 1 at the Standard level, the BTC received came from an address that hadn't been used in 4 days. As I said, I'm no expert in blockchain analysis, but I thought that the mix in Premium makes more sense, with BTC coming from an older address than in Standard. Perhaps this element is irrelevant to the mix, either way, this information is here.


#MIX 3
Date: 30/10/2023 20h40 UTC +0
Browser: Chrome - Clearnet
Security level: Basic fee 0.4%
Delay: 0h15
Order: C1ODVHYF-75QO6Z

I decided to take another type of approach, which was to directly compare Tumbler with another mix, something I had already done with other mixing services. To make this comparison, I chose to use the Yomix service. For this test, I used the minimum configurations of both services: Tumbler (Security level: Basic fee 0.4% + 0.0002 per output address); Yomix (Service Fee: 0.700% + 0.00002673 per output address). Bitcoin was sent at the same time to the address of each mixing service, in the same transaction via Electrum, in equal amounts (0.001BTC minimum acceptable for both platforms).

After sending the BTC, the Yomix service detected the sending of money more quickly, while Tumbler took a little longer. But this is probably related to the block explorer that each service uses. Both services were effective within the defined delay, as I received the mix from each service at the same time, that is, in the same block.

Blockchain Analysis: Once again, as I am not an expert, I took a quick look at the transactions of each service, I got the feeling that it is easier to understand that bitcoin comes from Yomix than from Tumbler. This is because Yomix uses P2SH addresses and Tumble uses SegWit addresses. So, as it is increasingly common to use SegWit addresses nowadays, transactions end up going unnoticed. But, that might just be my perception, and it's probably an irrelevant detail.


#FINAL COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS
Overall, I enjoyed using the [banned mixer] mixing service. I found the site simple and easy to use, with relevant information and practical to configure, even for those not used to using this type of service. With the different levels of security proposed, they all seemed to me to be quite viable for what is intended. I got the idea that the site is slightly faster on the Edge browser than on Chrome. Although Yomix has lower rates, I think Tumbler becomes more effective in terms of mixing objectives.

Suggestions:
- In the "Fee calculator" option, in step 2, the value appears blank. I suggested that the minimum value be set by default, which can then be adjusted by the user;
- When we wait for the mixing to be done, in step 4 "In progress", there could be a sound signal each time the process moves to the next mixing phase (with the user being able to deactivate it). This allowed, if the user keeps the browser window open, to always know that a phase of the process has been passed;
- It is possible to create a mixing profile, where the user creates a certain configuration (fee, delay, addresses, etc.). In other words, the user created a txt file, following certain parameters with necessary information, which would then simply be sent to the website and the mixing process would begin. I don't remember seeing such a feature in any other mixing service, but it could be useful for those who use mixing a lot;
- The discount code and the code from previous mixes are placed in the same field, this is no longer practical if the person wants to use both. I think it could be useful to have separate fields for each type of code;
- Still related to the mixing code, from what I understand, it is only possible to use one code at a time. How does it work if the person has two codes that have not yet been used, and only wants to use them in a third mix? It could be useful to have the option to add more than one mixing code.

[bitmover]

[banned mixer] Mixer Review Program #2
Bitcointalk username: bitmover

I made three mixing sessions. As it is on the rules to make in different security levels, and I forgot that and made 2 on Premium, I had to make this third mixing on Standard level. This is why my review took a bit longer.

Browsers:

• Microsoft Edge Desktop
  Version 118.0.2088.76 (Official build) (64-bit)
• Firefox Beta Android
  Version 119.0b9

User Interface
I liked the dark mode. I always like to use it in all apps. However, the contrast is not ideal.

I checked this website, https://contrastchecker.com/ and it suggests that the contrast is not good, failing most checks. My suggestion is to make the font color clearer

Currently:
font color #60758e
background #040608

source: https://contrastchecker.com/?c=60758e&b=040608


If you use a clearer color such as #a0b2c9, all contrast tests will pass


Mixing


I made three mixing sessions. I forgot to make one standard mixing, and as it is on the rules to make in different security levels, I had to make this third mixing.

I entered a 10% discount code I received from the avatar campaign ( I saved the 50% one for later on. I will use those codes only once for privacy concerns, as Trofo mentioned). I also entered the provided code on the next one, and received the 10% discount on the second one as expected.



The third mixing had zero delay. The coins came to my wallet almost immediately (with a good fee per byte, no overpay. (median block fee rate)

Discount codes are being multiplied:
I received a promo code with 10% discount in the avatar campaign. I used it once, and then I received a new code to use in the next session.
The new received code worked with 10% discount (just tested).

However, the third code I received, for the third mixing, didn't receive any discount.

I don't know if this behavior is intended or not. Might be worth checking it out.

Interface could be improved.
I can barely see the Order ID and the Letter of guarantee download.



Suggestion: Letter of guarantee should be download automatically after 2-3 seconds of page load. Additionally, Order ID and  Letter of guarantee should have better contrast or some kind of emphasis in the text.

My second suggestion is about the minimum value. 0.001 BTC is not that low for developing countries.

Replace by Fee (RBF)

I was forced to use replace by fee. My mixing transaction went through with 3 sat/byte. However, there was a bump in fee rate when I just made my second one with 3 sat/byte again.

I made a new RBF transaction using electrum, increasing the fee rate to 20 sat/byte. The [banned mixer] system had no problems with that transaction, which made me a lot satisfied.


Conclusion


I liked the button redirecting to bitcointalk, asking people to write a review. It is a way to get in touch in case of problems. Good for community support.

The idea of using those codes connects the sessions, and that still worries me. As it is fully optional, I don't see a problem (as someone paranoid like me can just ignore it).

I took a look at all my transactions from the e mixings and I wasn't able to find any  links in those coins. all the coins I sent to them still haven't moved yet.




Some interesting comments I would like to address, from other reviewers:

4. Isn't 50% discount lifetime a big privacy risk? Where are codes stored from Tumbler side? What if the get out one day? Don't just say impossible, leaks happen all the time or authorities can find ways to make companies give over data. All my mixes will be connected trough that one code.

This is an interesting observation, and a valid concern. Certainly the discount code is something that can identify your session.

I agree that the discount code is not a good practice, and if anonymity is the focus, one should really give up the discount, as there is some trust involved.
Or, one could just save the discount code to use only once.

Discount code:
What’s stopping me from sharing the discount code here on the forum or any other social media website? If I share it and other users use it, will my address or my identity be linked to it? Does this mean you guys are storing my data? My suggestion is to simply disable the discount code altogether and lower the mixing fee entirely.

I would say that you would be risking your own reputation as you agreed to the terms of the campaign when you joined it.

[Harkorede]

[banned mixer] Mixer Review Program #2
Bitcointalk username: Harkorede



This is my first review of the platform [banned mixer], If only I had joined the first review, I’m very certain I would have had much more to say about the functionalities and my personal user experience about the platform, but most of my observation have already been mentioned here and addressed as well, so my review might come somewhat short without making mention of what I’ve read and noticed from other reviews so far.

Firstly, I made use of two browsers for each of my mixings.


First mix:

Having read about the need for Javascript to be enabled on the user broswer for the site to function properly in the site’s FAQ’s page (I’ll come back to my questions on that later on), I used Tor browser + with external VPN (Private Internet Access) turned on to see if that would make my navigations on the site slower or lag a little bit, however, I had no problems whatsoever with navigating the site even though my WIFI internet speed wasn’t at its optimum as at the time of this first attempt.


Details of my first mix



Order: NFFQ****-1D****
Tumbler code: ********84256bf5034e23f*********
Receiving address: bc1q****hzahvt5j3j9lgp****gr2vmctxtea*****
Browser: TOR Browser + External VPN
Service type: Standard
Amount: 0.001 BTC

I tried to chose not the fastest result possible for my first mix, the security threshold was set at standard security, and I opted for 2 hours delay of the funds as well, while my receiving address was another address personally generated, after which I proceed to deposit on another platform for usage and there wasn’t any issue regarding where the coins from on the platform which I deposited them to.



My opinion on this is that most people don’t read this terms and conditions, I personally for a fact didn’t read the wordings on this page at all, I only checked both boxes without noticing it contains the most vital informations if not as much as my receiving bitcoin address, I would suggest that part of the underlined part of my screenshot above that contains the “Letter of Guarantee” text be highlighted distinctively, perhaps with a red text, I’m very sure that will draw a significant attention of any user, and there will almost no one just checking boxes without knowing its full implication.




This is a perfect page, and there is nothing I would rather have changed about this page, every detail is shown and specified in a very legible and user interface friendly manner, nothing can go wrong with anyone mixing on the platform, when they view this page.




I like the Order overview page too, however I think the text about when the other information deletes automatically and option to delete instantly looks a bit vague, it should be as clear, if not bolder than other text on the page, but not vague than others, if truly that’s an option you want users to consider whether or not they want to explore.

And the same thing applies to order pages where bitcoin is to be sent to the platform’s generated address, I believe those text should be highlighted boldly or in a red font which as I’ve aforementioned would be more noticable and obvious as intended.
 

Despite not maximizing all the security options for my first coin mix, everything turned out extremely perfect and there is not an iota of red flag ascertained to the received coins.






The order completion page brings me to the most important question about users privacy and anonymity, and it has to do with the tumbler code for next order which literally is means to ensure I’m not getting my coins back, if that is case, doesn’t that mean either the tx id or btc address is automatically associated with the tumbler code to ensure what coins belong to which address (user), is there any time frame for how long it can take for one to stand a chance for not being sent their own coins back without the necessity of using the tumbler code ?



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Details of my second mix





Order ID: ****J8WL-5U****
Tumbler code: *****898****6bf50658e3c63****
Receiving address 1: bc1q*****h5d9zftpc6tujpkmh*****ww28ht6p0ey36zye4uk***
Receiving address 2: 3*****9FehZ***rvhrn**ozM****
Service type: Premium
Browser: Opera (private window mode) + Opera inbuilt VPN
Amount: 0.00199104 BTC

For my second mix, I made use Opera in private window with its inbuilt VPN to test for speed and functionality as well, and I would say that I was not let down, the platform functions at optimum level of smoothness with any form of lagging whatsoever even while I had other Apps running at the same time.
However, the UX/UI (User Experience and Interface) is quite not so friendly for me compared to when I used TOR.


Reason being:

The page was unnecessarily too big for my screen, while I have my Opera set at default 100% zoom level,  while the information available on each page are very minimal that should easily contain a single page without having to scroll multiple times, without using a mouse or the laptop’s mouse pad, I’d to press the down arrow button multiple times to get to the end of each page, meanwhile the information on the footer doesn’t change but if there were significant information in some of the pages, it could easily be missed out. On the other hand, it’s easier to guess the end of the necessary relevant details and procedures to follow as they’re all within the white background image that significantly stands out from the native skyblue background at the top and bottom of each page, it’s somewhat strenuous having to scroll through each time I needed to input any details, I had to scroll back up there after again to double if the information I entered are correct, meanwhile the textbox are barely up to 4 in any page and should easily fit into a single screen-page without losing its legibility, for instance to get the image below and its entire details in a single screen-page, I had to put the zoom level at 33%, while for every other screenshot  that I didn’t do that for I’ll need 4-5 screen-pages to have this much information.


1. Order processing page screen page at 33%




2. Order processing page at default zoom level (100%)





3. Here is the total number of screens needed to view all the details of the order completion page at default 100% zoom level.







For the number 3 images: In my opinion, It’s pretty much easy for any person to never see the auto delete or delete now option, once they see that the mix is completed, the first image makes it seem like that’s all the information there is about that page.




To the mixing details; I chose payout to two different wallet addresses, but with a very short timing for the first payout and a little further for the other one, both address are my deposit address for different platforms entirely, one address is native segwit, while the other is p2sh segwit compatible (3****).

Both mixes turned out perfectly okay and there still wasn’t any problem at regarding the level of privacy about either of the transactions.




My conclusion:

1. Those are the details of both my mixing experience on the platform, the navigation was hasslefree, and the design is as sleek and smooth as anyone could ever ask of any modern platform. I have highlighted all the issues I encountered or not with each screenshot shared, the only biggest relevant one in my opinion would be making sure the display is the same across all devices or browsers especially PCs, I also tried to mix on a mobile phone an iPhone 12 pro, using safari running on iOS 17.1, and I’m of the opinion that the platform is more user friendly on safari than on a PC, because each page is very compact on safari, no wide margins whatsoever to the sides, and it’s easier to not miss out on any details on mobile compared to a PC (personal belief and opinion, which could subjective to my mobile device screensize or browser, I can’t say if that’s the case across all mobile devices).

2. On the FAQ page, there is a question “What is Tumblercode ?”

After each mixing operation the system generates a new TUMBLER CODE for you. We use a TUMBLER CODE to be sure that you will not get your funds back. The same code is used for the discount system. Please, keep it for your next orders and discounts. Notice that after each mixing, the TUMBLER CODE is new.

As I’ve asked earlier in the course of my post about the details that the tumbler codes carries, the highlighted part above isn’t explicit enough, it states that after each mixing the tumbler code is new, does that imply that I could get coins from my previous let’s say 5 - 10 mixes ago, and the only one excluded is the last or just concluded order,  or are previous information from one tumbler code carried over to the new code ?

[khaled0111]

[banned mixer] Mixer Review Program #2
Bitcointalk username: khaled0111

UI/UX experience:
I've used few different mixers in the past so I've a small idea about how a mixer should look like and what to expect to see there (mixers work differently on the back-end but on the front-end, the mixing steps are almost the same). However, this is the first time I use [banned mixer]. So, the first thing I did was to open the website on different browsers (Chrome, edge, tor,,) to see if there are any glitches or anything like that but didn't notice any.

The design is simple and neat which is what you should expect from a service such as a mixer. Almost everything is there where it's supposed to be and understanding how the service works and what you are supposed to do to mix your coins is not that hard even for someone who is using the platform for the first time!

Some notes and suggestions:
- The dark mode is cool but I think it's a bit too dark! The contrast needs to be revised since some content is unreadable unless you increase the screen brightness.
- You use different colors for each new receiving address which is also good but some of those colors don't fit well with the too dark background.
- Everytime you click on a different (?) info buttons, a box pops up and overlaps the previous one and it's not obvious how to close them. This should be done automatically by clicking anywhere on the screen:

- On the "Enter your receiving address(es) form, I believe it would be better if the input field for each address was above its corresponding text label (for mobile btowsers) and to its right (for desktop browsers).

Mixing:
I made two mixing sessions. The first was with chrome browser on mobile and the second was with tor on desktop (windows).

Mix 1:
Browser: chrome
Device: mobile
Service type: basic
Amount: 0.001

I intentionally shose the receiving delay to be 0hr:0min to see if I'll receive the coins instantly as expected. The Anonymizing meter showed "weak" which makes perfect sense in this case.
Every thing went smooth. I didn't face any problem during the mixing process as everything was straight forward.
As soon as the deposit transaction got confirmed, the mixer sent the mixed coins to the receiving address I've provided earlier. The received amount was the same as what the Fee calculator showed.
The transaction fee was ~20sat/vb while mempool.space suggested ~ 16 sat/vb for fast confirmation so it was a reasonable fee rate not  overpaying.

However, the mixer used three inputs and two change addresses! I don't know if this was done in purpose as part of the mixing process or not but it will significantly increase the transaction weight.

Mix 2:
Browser: Tor
Device: desktop (win 10)
Service type: premium
Amount: 0.0011

For this session, I entered the tumbler code I got from the previous one to be sure I won't receive coins from my own address. For some reason, the website didn't recognize it as valid (the input box turned into red) but when I clicked on continue, it got accepted and I was redirected to the next page!

As for the first mixing session, this one went smooth too. I really liked how smooth it was to move the slider which is something I always struggle with on other websites.
The website loaded fastly although I used the onion link on tor!
After the mixing has ended, I received the mixed coins (exact amount) on my wallet.

Note:
- after providing the receiving address and clicking "continue", I realized I've forgotten to provide the tumbler code. I wanted to go back to the previous step but there was no way to do so. Clicking on the browser back button, takes you to the main page and you have to start the process from scratch!
It would be useful if the steps numbers on the top of the page were click able and allow you to switch between different tabs in case the user wanted to check or edit some information.


- on the receiving address field, a paste button or a qr scanner would be a nice addition.

For both sessions, I downloaded the letters of guarantee and verified their signature with no problems.
Also, I looked up the receiving transactions on a blockexplorer and went back few hops to see if there is any connection between the involved addresses but couldn't find any. So, I suppose the mixer works fine just as it's expected to be.

[b]Support:[/b]
I sent a message to customer support just to see how responsive they are. I waited few minutes without getting an answer then I realized I need to provide the letter of guarantee first! Not sure why this is required? What if someone have some questions and needs answers before he decides whether to use the service or not?

[b]Conclusion:[/b]
Overall, the the website design looks good but there is still room for improvement. The user experience was great and there isn't much to complain about. Mixing coins on [banned mixer] is straightforward and doesn't require any technical knowledge.

[TryNinja]

[banned mixer] Mixer Review Program #2
Bitcointalk username: TryNinja

UX seems better compared to my first review, small things that together make the mixing experience smoother.

For my first mix, I created an order, solved the captcha (appearing more aggressively, which is good), and put my tumbler code from the last review. [Using Microsoft Edge, last version]

70.67% and delay of 8hr 15min to address A
29.33% and delay of 6hr 26min to address B

Sent:
0.0047 BTC

Service fee:
0.91% (Standard)

# Address A receiving transaction had:

1 input:
- bc1qlpktufgwtv7ayult334ewssnxmszns7yg6lkqk (0.00353598 BTC)

3 outputs:
- 1CkSahJ4b9FFbzfLCHydGo12RBn41tBWRi (0.00300858 BTC) *
- bc1qer0awjqghpzr244c4eqgzevna3f0tz8w7ydupg (0.00020992 BTC)
- bc1q8usavlu7htlfq38mp9lcntrqq8f3clth70rp89 (0.00028675 BTC)

fee:
- 18 sat/vbyte

* my receiving address

# Address B receiving transaction had:

1 input:
- bc1q06s29a4r5pc68uaw6w69utyx9xse33edu557aw (0.00147624 BTC)

3 outputs:
- 1JmfYgNK4uj3nMoegoVrB76RoW9taHxPmc (0.00124865 BTC) *
- bc1qamk6pyzda6gqt953jpa00tf5aklj2nqvepnxqr (0.00009356 BTC)
- bc1qn05uclsdpg7ee9xlpsc6zt4kjpspx8k73cz56l (0.00010701 BTC)

fee:
- 16 sat/vbyte

* my receiving address

- Looking at both txs, it seems obvious that the 1CkS... and 1Jmf... addresses are the receivers and the rest the "change". If each tx had another input to make the spendable amount greater, it could have sent my 0.003 and maybe another 0.0025 or so to another address of the same format (starting with 1...) so it hides out a bit. A third output with the same format (or even a different one) and also a greater amount makes it even greater.

- Each tx had a different fee (16 vs 18 sat/vbyte), a change (on purpose?) from the last time where both of my addresses had received coins with the same sat/vbyte fee. One tx was made at 7:20 PM and the other at 8:42 PM, so I can't say if two txs made at a closer time would use the same network fee. Anyways, if you didn't yet, make it so the recommended network fee have a randomized spread to make identifying your txs harder (i.e, a recommended fee of 14.52 ~ 17.85 sat/vbyte if the network suggests 15 sat/vbyte).
 

For the second mix, I used the tumbler code from my previous mix. [Using Vivaldi, last version]

100% and delay of 3hr 51min to address C

Sent:
0.0014004 BTC

Service fee:
1.81% (Premium)

# Address C receiving transaction had:

1 input:
- bc1qpkk9hmupzm38qjwsphuzekkwgstjhhp8pqkza8 (0.00242204 BTC)

3 outputs:
- 1EBP4gc9LHTPLxDmChb9YM6MBQY2d82cys (0.00117505 BTC) *
- bc1qcr069qk7sywgn33d6z2ymvkxm9v6qtt5gvg0aj (0.00058564 BTC)
- bc1qktjd9jwazszn74uh9rs40j0hks7p00arjapey9 (0.00063426 BTC)

fee:
- 16 sat/vbyte

* my receiving address

- Same 1 input, 3 outputs scenario. The change was also broken between 2 extra outputs, but my receiving address still received the greater amount (easier to detuct that it's the target address of the mix - $40 vs $20+$20).

- Fee was closer to one of the txs from the first mix (16 sat/vbyte). No fee with a broken value (i.e 16.25 sat/vbyte) yet, that could change.

- In all txs from both mixes, Blockstream's explorer says the txs saved 31% on fees by using native bech32 + no "privacy gotchas" that they cover.

- Both LoG were verified signed by the address on the website.

- Path from the sender to my receiver address seems to be:



First impressions tells me that one address controled by [banned mixer] sent a batch of coins to several addresses (all bech32), which then sent coins to two/hree other addresses, and then once again each sent to two/three addresses, and then to my address (besides the 2 changes). Which hop of two/three addresses includes a customer's receiving address just like my Address C at the end? I'm no expert to tell if that's enough to bypass the big eyes tracking the blockchain, but it's a lot better than NOT using a mixer, that's for sure.

I couldn't find a connection between my first mix and the second (i.e coins I sent to the first mix being used to pay my second mix, like what happened on the first review). That's good.


I saw that [banned mixer] implemented a RSA asymmetric cryptography algorithm to protect itself from MITM attacks, so I tried to bypass it. I spent the day reverse engineer the website (obfuscated) source code to "break" the encryption but I couldn't make it work. I'm sure it should be possible (after all, the client is OP), so I could try again when I have more time, but it wasn't ""as easy"" as my last attempt (where I at least found out how to generate the fud parameter ).

That also makes harder for people (like me) to snoop around and try to make requests on their own for DDoSing or hacking attempts.

Still, I'm not sure if that's enough to prevent DDoS-guard, Cloudflare, etc... from sniffing on your users. AFAIK, they could deliver a tampered front end that just sends the data (already decrypted with the user's private key) to their servers, isn't that right? Maybe I'm wrong about it since I'm no expert on asymmetric cryptography algorithms or exactly sure what they can do by being in the middle.

Screenshot of my attempt:

[tumbler.io]

Ratimov

All the identified issues have been fixed, and a couple of additional sentences have been added to the tasks. As always, a full report will be provided after all the revisions.

TryNinja

---> The traffic that clients send to our server cannot be decrypted without our private key. Mathematics...

<--- The traffic that we send to clients can only be decrypted with their "private client key". This key is stored in the client's browser environment and only for the duration of the session. Each client's browser generates a unique key pair.

Stealing client keys is only possible through a "heavy-handed injection" of malicious code during the proxying process by DDOS-Guard.

Furthermore, the attacker would need to manipulate "security headers". Our "security policy" at the header level prohibits any traffic transmission to external resources. This will also be very noticeable.

Such an attack is technically possible but theoretically implausible and highly impractical.

1. Injecting malicious code would be detectable.
2. No project would take such a reputational risk.
3. Such an attack cannot be sustained, at most, it could intercept some of the clients' public keys, which would be pointless.

The current protection is almost an ideal solution against MITM.

In addition to protecting against MITM, this technique poses significant barriers in:

- Hacker attacks
- DDoS
- Creating phishing sites
- Intercepting traffic in case of browser malware infection
- Data tampering and injections in case of browser malware infection

...

But we've also enabled a "paranoid mode"
We've created a "Bot" that periodically visits the site and checks the SHA-256 sums of the files passed by the DDOS-Guard proxy server.
In the event of data tampering, we'll quickly detect it and take action.

...

We are continuing to work on updates. In the coming days, a full report on the work done will be provided, and the winners of the second phase of testing will be announced.

[AB de Royse777]

Code:

bitmover
joker_josue
ETFbitcoin
un_rank
Harkorede
stompix
khaled0111
Yatsan
Z-tight
UmerIdrees

Reward sent for group#2.
Tx: 2413c78c59c988a25001308c185131860e56ab42eee3a23413dc7ad0e00085fa

Ratimov, TryNinja I will PM your reward addresses to the management. Also, I will ask the management to announce the winner of the round#2 review campaign and they will send the reward for the winner too.

The 50% discount code for the participants will be sent via PM. 10% discount code for showing interest in this campaign will be sent via PM too. Eligibale members for 10% discount codes are below:

Code:

Nwada001
komisariatku
Davidvictorson
DaNNy001
Ojima-ojo
Dr.Bitcoin_Strange
alastantiger
AnonBitCoiner
SmartGold01
Fivestar4everMVP
Rockstarguy
CryptSafe
Mr.suevie
dothebeats
Gladitorcomeback
Obari
mvdheuvel1983
Lida93
Synchronice
nelson4lov
GiftedMAN
shield132
Hyphen(-)
bluebit25
Asiska02
Rruchi man
Issa56
CryptoHeadlineNews
Zlantann
SOKO-DEKE
RockBell
Nheer
Zaguru12
Franctoshi
348Judah
virasog
Frankolala
AHOYBRAUSE
MFahad
vv181
libert19
Yamane_Keto
MAAManda
Potato Chips
wallet4bitcoin
GeorgeJohn
BitcoinTurk
alani123
Learn Bitcoin
dkbit98
hugeblack
CLS63
xLays
Faisal2202
ZAINmalik75
Bushdark

Thank you everyone for showing your interest in Trumber.io mixer and being a part of the campaign. Let's help the brand to become successful in the crypto space. A mixer is always needed to break the link between transactions which ensures our privacy and safety.

I will keep the thread open for Tumbler management to leave their final words.

Cheers,

[tumbler.io]

Hello everyone,

We're thrilled to announce that Ratimov has clinched the title for the best review in our recent  [banned mixer] Bitcoin Mixer Review#2 .
Kudos to Ratimov for insights that sparked some great improvements in our service!

A huge thank you to each of you who participated and shared your thoughts.
Your input is invaluable, and we're already on the job, making [banned mixer] even better.

Look out for an update later this week where we'll share a detailed roundup of the enhancements made, all inspired by your feedback.

[348Judah]

Congratulations to you Ratimov for making it the best althrough the first and second phase of the review, am sure the entire team were glad to see your fervent efforts being appreciated with such recognition, though i didn't make it to participate in the review campaign but made the list of those having a 10% discount just for applying which am also grateful for, we are all identified for a specific reason or role played and it's a privilege, we can all do more better because of the better days ahead.

Thanks to the entire [banned mixer] team and Royse, once again congratulations to the all time winner, Ratimov.

[Onyeeze]

Congratulations Ratimov for winining two time best reviewer in a [banned mixer] mixer review, it's not easy to make inquiring for first time and it became best among all and also make a second research about same mixer functions and also detect faults and became the best, so this is to say that you are good and before [banned mixer] itself or representative decide to award and recognise you as the best that means you add much effort to make sure you have detected the barriers and future barriers of [banned mixer] mixer so that they can easily fixed it put from the their customers, I like what [banned mixer] did for this review to hear from people experience of the website if it will be a faulty one in future or not, so that errors will be identified and fixed amicable before future generations faults, Congratulations again Ratimov

[AB de Royse777]

10% discount code for showing interest in this campaign will be sent via PM too. Eligibale members for 10% discount codes are below:

Code:

Nwada001
komisariatku
Davidvictorson
DaNNy001
Ojima-ojo
Dr.Bitcoin_Strange
alastantiger
AnonBitCoiner
SmartGold01
Fivestar4everMVP
Rockstarguy
CryptSafe
Mr.suevie
dothebeats
Gladitorcomeback
Obari
mvdheuvel1983
Lida93
Synchronice
nelson4lov
GiftedMAN
shield132
Hyphen(-)
bluebit25
Asiska02
Rruchi man
Issa56
CryptoHeadlineNews
Zlantann
SOKO-DEKE
RockBell
Nheer
Zaguru12
Franctoshi
348Judah
virasog
Frankolala
AHOYBRAUSE
MFahad
vv181
libert19
Yamane_Keto
MAAManda
Potato Chips
wallet4bitcoin
GeorgeJohn
BitcoinTurk
alani123
Learn Bitcoin
dkbit98
hugeblack
CLS63
xLays
Faisal2202
ZAINmalik75
Bushdark

We have a situation, I almost forgot about the following term to be eligible for the 10% discount code. To make my job easier please fill up the form and submit it before 12th November. Failing to submit the form will disallow the eligibility of the 10% discount code.

ELIGIBILITY FOR 10% LIFETIME DISCOUNT CODE
- You must write a brief and HONEST overall impression of using the service on [banned mixer] ANN thread. Make it informative for the readers.

The following users will receive 50% discount codes shortly via their PM

Code:

Igebotz
KingsDen
SamReomo
mikeywith
iwantmyhomepaidwithbtc2
Stalker22
internetional
joker_josue
ETFbitcoin
un_rank
Harkorede
khaled0111
Yatsan
Z-tight
UmerIdrees

If you don't receive the code in the next few hours, then please remind me.

Cheers

[UmerIdrees]

The following users will receive 50% discount codes shortly via their PM

Code:

UmerIdrees

Thank You Royse777 and the Tumbler team for giving me the opportunity to test, review and finally giving me the 50% lifetime discount code.

[banned mixer] is my daily driver for mixing purposes. 

[Zlantann]

The 50% discount code for the participants will be sent via PM. 10% discount code for showing interest in this campaign will be sent via PM too. Eligibale members for 10% discount codes are below:

Code:

Nwada001
komisariatku
Davidvictorson
DaNNy001
Ojima-ojo
Dr.Bitcoin_Strange
alastantiger
AnonBitCoiner
SmartGold01
Fivestar4everMVP
Rockstarguy
CryptSafe
Mr.suevie
dothebeats
Gladitorcomeback
Obari
mvdheuvel1983
Lida93
Synchronice
nelson4lov
GiftedMAN
shield132
Hyphen(-)
bluebit25
Asiska02
Rruchi man
Issa56
CryptoHeadlineNews
Zlantann
SOKO-DEKE
RockBell
Nheer
Zaguru12
Franctoshi
348Judah
virasog
Frankolala
AHOYBRAUSE
MFahad
vv181
libert19
Yamane_Keto
MAAManda
Potato Chips
wallet4bitcoin
GeorgeJohn
BitcoinTurk
alani123
Learn Bitcoin
dkbit98
hugeblack
CLS63
xLays
Faisal2202
ZAINmalik75
Bushdark

Thank you everyone for showing your interest in Trumber.io mixer and being a part of the campaign. Let's help the brand to become successful in the crypto space. A mixer is always needed to break the link between transactions which ensures our privacy and safety.

I will keep the thread open for Tumbler management to leave their final words.

Cheers,

Thank you, [banned mixer] Mixer and @Royse777 for finding me worthy of this 10% discount on your well-packaged service. I will use the mixer and give you my honest observations and recommendations. Best Wishes.

[paid2]

I confirm that I have received the code. Thanks!

[SamReomo]

The following users will receive 50% discount codes shortly via their PM

Code:

SamReomo

If you don't receive the code in the next few hours, then please remind me.

Cheers

I'm very thankful to Royse and tumbler team for accepting me in their awesome review campaign. I have tested the tumbler mixer and posted my genuine feedback and review about it. I confirm that I have received my 50% discount code in PM. Thanks once again to Royse and tumbler team for giving me the opportunity to test one of the best mixers in Bitcoin world.

[AB de Royse777]

Code:

Nwada001
komisariatku
Davidvictorson
DaNNy001
Ojima-ojo
Dr.Bitcoin_Strange
alastantiger
AnonBitCoiner
SmartGold01
Fivestar4everMVP
Rockstarguy
CryptSafe
Mr.suevie
dothebeats
Gladitorcomeback
Obari
mvdheuvel1983
Lida93
Synchronice
nelson4lov
GiftedMAN
shield132
Hyphen(-)
bluebit25
Asiska02
Rruchi man
Issa56
CryptoHeadlineNews
Zlantann
SOKO-DEKE
RockBell
Nheer
Zaguru12
Franctoshi
348Judah
virasog
Frankolala
AHOYBRAUSE
MFahad
vv181
libert19
Yamane_Keto
MAAManda
Potato Chips
wallet4bitcoin
GeorgeJohn
BitcoinTurk
alani123
Learn Bitcoin
dkbit98
hugeblack
CLS63
xLays
Faisal2202
ZAINmalik75
Bushdark

I guess you all are missing:
- The deadline to fill up the form.
I don't see any response yet on the spreadsheet.

Please have in mind that without filling up this form you will not receive the 10% reward.

Ref: my last post.

[SmartGold01]

Code:

SmartGold01

I guess you all are missing:
- The deadline to fill up the form.
I don't see any response yet on the spreadsheet.

Please have in mind that without filling up this form you will not receive the 10% reward.

Ref: my last post.

Thank you Royse777 for reminder, I have just filled out the google form with my previously review link from phase 1, hope there won't be any offense for including my review link?
And again, I already had 50 percent discount code sent to me from phase 1 and if included to this 10 percent I will have about 60 percent discount code for mixing. Sorry to ask about this, is there any way this 10 percent can be converted to reward lets say like btc or usdt any amount I will so much appreciate it since I do not regularly use mixers to mix coin.
Apologies if my request gets you offset.

[AB de Royse777]

Thank you Royse777 for reminder, I have just filled out the google form with my previously review link from phase 1, hope there won't be any offense for including my review link?
And again, I already had 50 percent discount code sent to me from phase 1 and if included to this 10 percent I will have about 60 percent discount code for mixing. Sorry to ask about this, is there any way this 10 percent can be converted to reward lets say like btc or usdt any amount I will so much appreciate it since I do not regularly use mixers to mix coin.
Apologies if my request gets you offset.

It does not work like that.
You can only use the 50% discount code :-)

Code:

Nwada001
komisariatku
Davidvictorson
DaNNy001
Ojima-ojo
Dr.Bitcoin_Strange
alastantiger
AnonBitCoiner
SmartGold01
Fivestar4everMVP
Rockstarguy
CryptSafe
Mr.suevie
dothebeats
Gladitorcomeback
Obari
mvdheuvel1983
Lida93
Synchronice
nelson4lov
GiftedMAN
shield132
Hyphen(-)
bluebit25
Asiska02
Rruchi man
Issa56
CryptoHeadlineNews
Zlantann
SOKO-DEKE
RockBell
Nheer
Zaguru12
Franctoshi
348Judah
virasog
Frankolala
AHOYBRAUSE
MFahad
vv181
libert19
Yamane_Keto
MAAManda
Potato Chips
wallet4bitcoin
GeorgeJohn
BitcoinTurk
alani123
Learn Bitcoin
dkbit98
hugeblack
CLS63
xLays
Faisal2202
ZAINmalik75
Bushdark

I guess you all are missing:
- The deadline to fill up the form.
I don't see any response yet on the spreadsheet.

Please have in mind that without filling up this form you will not receive the 10% reward.

Ref: my last post.

You had deadline until 12th November. I waited more 4 days but I do not see anymore list on the spreadsheet. Which concludes me that not many have done the required task.

This campaign is officially close now.
Thank you everyone for participating on the both review campaign.
We are planning to launch the signature campaign soon.
Looking forward to work together with some of you.

Thank you [banned mixer] team.

Cheers.

[SmartGold01]

Snip

It does not work like that.
You can only use the 50% discount code :-)

Thanks you for the feedback, like I said I already filled out the Google form before the deadline meaning is didn't missed out the chances of receiving the code.