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October 20, 2023, 09:02:13 AM |
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So, for some days now, I've had this thought of "how much some people really value their privacy in gambling", like as a gambler, you signed up on a new casino and immediately, you are allowed to deposit and play without going through a KYC verification process like we do on some casinos immediately after registration. You start playing and luckily, you won a significant amount of money.
I know the word "significant" can mean different values for different gamblers, so let's use figures i personally think are significant and capable of changing lives.
So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.
Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?
I love to read your thoughts on this.
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October 20, 2023, 09:10:59 AM |
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So, for some days now, I've had this thought of "how much some people really value their privacy in gambling", like as a gambler, you signed up on a new casino and immediately, you are allowed to deposit and play without going through a KYC verification process like we do on some casinos immediately after registration. You start playing and luckily, you won a significant amount of money.
I know the word "significant" can mean different values for different gamblers, so let's use figures i personally think are significant and capable of changing lives.
So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.
Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?
I love to read your thoughts on this.
First, any casino that do this is not to be trusted and the intention might likely to deny you the money or make the conditions a little difficult to check if you will give up on the funds. Personally, I will submit the documents and do the KYC, provided I will be paid my winnings. We do KYC for minor things talk more of when $70k is involved. I know there are people that will think twice before submitting such KYC but I don't belong to that category because the amount involved is huge and it is my wish I get to such a situation.
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October 20, 2023, 09:15:40 AM |
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Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?
I like going for reputable sites. If I win $70000, I do not care about KYC but the money won and I will do KYC immediately. What can be the problem is for the gambling site not to be capable of paying the money, it can not be a scam site that will sell people's KYC to other people to use. Also in reputed sites that you have use KYC to verify before, not that they are better because any site can misuse customers KYC.
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October 20, 2023, 09:22:55 AM |
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Yes to me I don't play gamble on sites or platform that doesn't guarantee your privacy as privacy is very important in any transaction. Inasmuch as gambling is concerned, privacy is of utmost priority as due to online frauds your account can get hacked and the hacker might use their details in the course of paying out winnings but a situation whereby your details corresponds with your transaction details then it will be difficult to intrude on your privacy
So privacy is very important as this guarantees the safety of an account on a gambling platform
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October 20, 2023, 09:23:55 AM |
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Privacy is very important to me, so in gambling I always look for casinos that have a good reputation, based on general reviews and correct and legal regulations that have been imposed on the casino to operate. However, today KYC has become a mandatory requirement, especially if you get a very large amount of winnings, of course to withdraw the money we are required to be verified by the casino, and yes, I can't avoid that but also.
Maybe in the past I didn't need to do KYC to withdraw funds regardless of the amount of my winnings, but today it is very important as regulations have become established, how to maintain privacy and today is in the right place and protects customer data safely.
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October 20, 2023, 09:25:26 AM |
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If I were in the situation you described, I would first try to learn more about the casino's reputation. I would read online reviews, see if they are licensed and regulated by a reputable gaming authority, and check to see if they have any history of problems with payouts. If I was satisfied with the casino's reputation, I would then be more likely to provide them with the required information. I would still be cautious and would only provide the information that is absolutely necessary. I would also make sure to read the casino's terms and conditions carefully to understand how they will use my information.
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October 20, 2023, 09:28:49 AM |
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So, for some days now, I've had this thought of "how much some people really value their privacy in gambling", like as a gambler, you signed up on a new casino and immediately, you are allowed to deposit and play without going through a KYC verification process like we do on some casinos immediately after registration. You start playing and luckily, you won a significant amount of money.
I know the word "significant" can mean different values for different gamblers, so let's use figures i personally think are significant and capable of changing lives.
So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.
Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?
I love to read your thoughts on this.
I am already level 2 verified at Stake as I believe really big companies like this would not care much with my data except doing what they need to do and go through the verification,the bonuses if won any of the challenges are slightly higher if you are level two verified and I think also the ongoing bonuses get something very little as more ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . The fact that I verified though is because I won about 3000 dollars a long time ago and before withdrawing I got to verification so I could avoid problems and in fact the withdrawal was instantly successful and after a few moments it came in my wallet.
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October 20, 2023, 09:29:12 AM |
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Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?
This the tricky part about gambling privacy nowadays since some new casino risk their reputation just to dodge huge payout using their ToS. It’s nonsense to provide KYC on a relatively new casino if you won huge amount while they halt withdrawal using KYC requirements. That’s why playing only with trusted casino for a long time is a must in online gambling so that when a big opportunity like this come then we can safely claim our rewards since we have forum.
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October 20, 2023, 09:55:01 AM |
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If I were in the situation you described, I would first try to learn more about the casino's reputation. I would read online reviews, see if they are licensed and regulated by a reputable gaming authority, and check to see if they have any history of problems with payouts. If I was satisfied with the casino's reputation, I would then be more likely to provide them with the required information.
You do not have to do the right thing at the wrong time. Before you should register on a gambling sute, you supposed to have researched about the gambling site, know if they are licensed and also know if they are reputed or not. If you are just checking for these important information after you won a big amount of money or when you want to withdraw, it might have been late. And if I tell you something, if anyone won huge amount of money like this, they will not even think twice before they will provide their KYC.
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October 20, 2023, 10:12:01 AM |
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Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?
This the tricky part about gambling privacy nowadays since some new casino risk their reputation just to dodge huge payout using their ToS. It’s nonsense to provide KYC on a relatively new casino if you won huge amount while they halt withdrawal using KYC requirements. That’s why playing only with trusted casino for a long time is a must in online gambling so that when a big opportunity like this come then we can safely claim our rewards since we have forum. To avoid from the requirement of submitting your identification, try reading their ToS before playing. KYC is always included in their ToS if it is being required upon withdrawal. Gambling house does not change it without prior notice to every player they have. Also, providing KYC to a new casino will always depend on their reputation. If you have doubts on using the gambling website, don't try to deposit and win against the house. That would be better. If there's a casino that you truly trusted, better to stick with it. If trying new casino is out of your option, and if you are the type of gambler who wants to try different casinos, reach out to the people you know and have them suggest the casino they tried before.
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October 20, 2023, 10:16:15 AM |
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I have never won any amount that made a casino request for KYC (unless when it’s already stated that they require kyc right from the onset) to prove that I’m not involved in any unethical activity in their casino and whenever it comes to casino.
So in my case it is a very easy case because I have done KYC for a few casino so if I’m faced with the choose to complete KYC to be eligible for withdrawal I’ll go for it if the amount is something I can lose but if it’s just a tiny amount I might just abandon the account and move to a casino that I believe won’t request for KYC.
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October 20, 2023, 10:23:45 AM |
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Can you ask how much is the max withdrawal amount that the casino allow without having to submit KYC? If they say $5000 can be withdrawn without having to send data, then that route may what a privacy concerned individual will go through to avoid handing out his documents.
Its probably what I would do as well. But I can understand some of us wants to withdraw the 70k.
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October 20, 2023, 10:37:22 AM |
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Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?
That's why it's highly recommended to use reputable casinos. It's very clear because new casinos could leak out or misuse your personal information. If I find myself in such a situation and I'm aware that the casino can't be trusted because it's new, I would avoid it. This is because, how can you be sure they will actually pay out large sums of money? They might just steal your data and make you go through all the KYC requirements, asking for more secure documents. Before using any casino, make sure you're familiar with their terms and conditions. Even if they don't initially require KYC, they might change their conditions in the future.
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So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.
Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?
$70,000 and you're still thinking about the reputation of a casino? believe me, if you were the one who needed that money, you would try to claim it no matter what. Even if it's a site that has been marked a scam on this forum, I will try to claim and do KYC there, but what fool would play on a site that has been marked as a scam ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) .
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October 20, 2023, 10:50:43 AM |
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I doubt a gambler would just forfeit that large sum of money in exchange for their privacy. We've seen the worst, giving out their information for a couple of bucks and below $20. If it's $1000 up then they would willingly provide everything, even their spouse's name. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I am not really that sensitive when it comes to privacy maybe because I live in a place where they will take your information most of the time even for just exchanging a $100 bill in a money exchange site. Then, there's also the cashing out of money from digital money where they will also take your information just to be safe. If I were in that position, I'd willingly give it out because that's my money now after I gamble my own money. We sometimes go hardcore with our privacy just because we are exposed to cryptocurrencies but there's actually no way we can keep it a secret all the time.
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October 20, 2023, 10:56:30 AM Last edit: October 20, 2023, 11:43:20 AM by coin-investor |
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So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.
Living in a third world country this amount is already life changing for me and as a gambler playing for many years on KYC based casinos I'm fully aware the need to do KYC when you won a big amount, so I'm very much ready to do KYC as long as the casino I'm playing is reputable and they will let me withdraw my winnings after I finish my verification, but if its a new casino with no record if they are reputable I will just have to take a chance and hope that they will let me withdraw my winning setting up a casino is not cheap if they have a license then they have spent more than $70k to launch their site I can do a compromise and withdraw half of the amount. Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?
I can forfeit it if the casino is not reputable and is known to scam people even though you did KYC, KYC is something we have to accept when playing in a license casino if you cannot do a KYC then better play on contract based casinos.
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Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?
I love to read your thoughts on this.
I once won a significant amount from one of the reputable casinos being advertised on this forum. Just like you said I didn't have to submit my kyc documents upon registration however after winning the significant amount and applied for withdrawal I was informed that I have to submit my kyc documents before my application is granted. Because it was a significant amount it took me two days to go back and forth with this casino on my kyc document. One of the documents was rejected several times and I had to get the exact one they needed before my request was granted. I didn't mind about my privacy because for a casino to be advertised on this forum buy reputable campaign managers then I had no reason to be scared.
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October 20, 2023, 11:17:50 AM |
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You do not have to do the right thing at the wrong time. Before you should register on a gambling sute, you supposed to have researched about the gambling site, know if they are licensed and also know if they are reputed or not. If you are just checking for these important information after you won a big amount of money or when you want to withdraw, it might have been late. And if I tell you something, if anyone won huge amount of money like this, they will not even think twice before they will provide their KYC.
You make a really valid point, and I completely agree with your perspective. I should have conducted those ways before getting involved or registering with any online casino or gambling platform. Waiting until I've won a substantial amount of money or when I'm ready to withdraw could indeed be too late, and this might lead to unnecessary complications. I appreciate your insight, and it's a valuable reminder for everyone to prioritize research and ensure the legitimacy and reputation of the casino beforehand. Thank you for sharing this wisdom!
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October 20, 2023, 11:26:43 AM |
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A lot. That's why I mostly gamble only at on-chain casinos, and crypto only. never ever have used fiat. Some require phone number as basic personal info, I find that excessive as well. So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.
Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?
I love to read your thoughts on this.
Will do some research about casino (in irl scenario, research would be prior to using casino itself), if reviews say fraudent there is no point in doing kyc, plus I wouldn't be surprised if your winning was due to casino's trick to make you give up personal info. If that's not the case, I'd wait until casino builds up some reputation and do kyc.
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October 20, 2023, 11:26:52 AM |
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There must be a limit where casinos allow ordinary gamblers to withdraw their winnings without doing KYC. You can ask the support service before you decide. You should ask about this problem before you register to clarify whether we win a lot of money from the casino. And considering that the casino is still new, we also need to be careful because not all new casinos can be recommended casinos.
And I agree with what @cabron said: we can follow the rules by only withdrawing the winnings according to the minimum limits of the casino. That can prevent us from doing KYC. But if it turns out that the casino is lying about this, it's better for us to leave the casino even though we have earned a lot of money.
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