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October 21, 2023, 04:07:56 PM
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When he gambler get the jackpot form the gambling,So he can quit the hard job which give the less money for the huge work.Most of the job was giving less pay for the more work in the real life.So the people suffering from such situation may try the gambling for the life upliftment.But it’s not guaranteed one,So it’s essential to have the mind set of both win or loss.The reason for the privacy is mainly for the tax paying,if the person who win will be identified by their government.Then the winning person need to pat the taxes for their winning.This was the biggest reason for the gambler to keep their privacy in the gambling sites.

This is the dumbest reasoning ever for people that has low salary on their job. Why find another job that pays well or improve your work for a chance to promotion to get more earnings.

People that using gambling as an alternative for being lazy on finding appropriate job usually becomes more poorer since gambling is designed to get money from players not the other way around due to the house edge. We gamblers are using casino games and services which casino is paying. We should be playing to get entertainment from their service and not to focus on quick rich scheme so that we can enjoy the game itself.

It doesn't make sense and I can't think why anyone would have that mindset, they should be able to differentiate gambling from work, although maybe their winnings are much greater than the income from their main job but there is a very significant difference there. Gambling is just about luck, and if you manage to hit a big jackpot it doesn't mean you have to quit your job because the amount of winnings from gambling is bigger. Let's think about it, gambling is based on luck and there is no guarantee that you will always win, while a job has a full guarantee because you get income through the contribution of yourself working even if the amount is small but it will be consistent as long as you are willing to do it. So it doesn't make sense to use that as an excuse to quit your job.

Yes, people who have such a mindset are none other than because they are lazy to work and always depend on the luck of gambling, gambling will absolutely not be able to make your life better but on the contrary you will continue to experience financial problems because of this activity. Basically and in accordance with the fact that gambling is created for victory is always on the side of the house, so if they come with the intention of earning then obviously will definitely suffer a lot of defeat.

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October 21, 2023, 04:14:58 PM
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First of all, I wouldn't choose to deposit on a casino which I can't trust with my KYC details and since I am not a high roller I am always okay to provide the basic details such as National ID verification and liveness test too if needed.

I will not be giving them further details like bank statements, proof of income, or whatever you consider sensitive information to share with anyone.

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October 21, 2023, 06:13:59 PM
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I value my privacy and I wouldn't use a casino that requires it, but let's say we have a strange situation, where I got mislead by the casino and thought there's no KYC, played for a bit and won a lot of money, but they want my private information. If there was a way to use someone else's data, I'd pay someone part of the profits to do KYC posing as me. Yes' I'd try to cheat here, but I'd feel cheated by the casino in the first place, so an eye for an eye Wink
If there was no way to do that without raising suspicion and risking all the money, I'd probably do KYC and take the money.
We're talking about $70k, so that's like a 3 year wage for me.

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October 21, 2023, 07:08:02 PM
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I doubt I would ever use a casino that’s not recognized or reputable in the gambling industry to avoid having withdrawal issues later on but In a scenario where I do use a new casino that’s barely recognized for whatever reasons, and happen to win some good money like the amount you mentioned, I guess I’ll be really moved into doing a full KYC with them.
$70k is quite a lot of money for a lot of people and would motivate a whole lot of gamblers into submitting relevant documents to get their hands on their winnings.

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October 21, 2023, 07:15:35 PM
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Currently, there are no more things like privacy in the cryptocurrency market, everything has become regulated, casinos need to have a license and ask for kyc, exchanges also ask for kyc. So it's not something that people don't know. for example when a person creates an account at a new casino, that person when depositing money, must be aware that even if the casino insists that they do not ask for kyc, eventually that same casino will ask for kyc, it will change the TOS without prior notice and the people who They put money into this new casino, they will have no choice but to go through kyc

People should not be fooled into thinking that casinos that are decentralized are the best options because they are fighting against the system implemented by governments. This thinking is dangerous, the most important thing is that people choose old casinos like stake.com and comply with the casino's TOS and not use new casinos without a reputation and after they win a lot of money in these new casinos and are unable to withdraw they start to come complain to this forum. It doesn't make sense for people to take a lot of risk in using strange casinos when they could be using good casinos.

I often ask myself why there are people with more than 10 accounts at 10 different casinos? How can you use 10 casinos at the same time? And to make matters worse, every time a new casino comes, they also create an account at that new casino, so they come and complain about kyc. But what did you expect? it was expected that they would do kyc in the 10 casinos. Unfortunately, people haven't thought very carefully about this kyc issue and are demanding it. In my opinion, you shouldn't ask much of kyc

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October 21, 2023, 08:49:38 PM
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I've had my digital footprint already embedded over the internet, if people and ad agencies ever decided to reach out to me to talk about my car's extended warranty, they could and they would. That's why I don't really care that much for my privacy especially in the case of gambling sites asking for information so they can allow me to gamble. I would be more than happy to verify my existence and have the chance to gamble than be stingy about it and not be allowed to. There's also just something about casinos who ask for KYC, something along the lines of security cause you know they are really paying cause there's no way in hell they're going to spend that much money and effort to implement a KYC feature if they're going to dip on their customers.

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October 21, 2023, 08:58:00 PM
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Currently, there are no more things like privacy in the cryptocurrency market, everything has become regulated, casinos need to have a license and ask for kyc, exchanges also ask for kyc. So it's not something that people don't know. for example when a person creates an account at a new casino, that person when depositing money, must be aware that even if the casino insists that they do not ask for kyc, eventually that same casino will ask for kyc, it will change the TOS without prior notice and the people who They put money into this new casino, they will have no choice but to go through kyc

People should not be fooled into thinking that casinos that are decentralized are the best options because they are fighting against the system implemented by governments. This thinking is dangerous, the most important thing is that people choose old casinos like stake.com and comply with the casino's TOS and not use new casinos without a reputation and after they win a lot of money in these new casinos and are unable to withdraw they start to come complain to this forum. It doesn't make sense for people to take a lot of risk in using strange casinos when they could be using good casinos.

I often ask myself why there are people with more than 10 accounts at 10 different casinos? How can you use 10 casinos at the same time? And to make matters worse, every time a new casino comes, they also create an account at that new casino, so they come and complain about kyc. But what did you expect? it was expected that they would do kyc in the 10 casinos. Unfortunately, people haven't thought very carefully about this kyc issue and are demanding it. In my opinion, you shouldn't ask much of kyc
Agree!

There's no other way or things that you could be able to avoid about being known or your information would really be that really needing for you to comply so that you could really be able to withdraw
or be able to get those functionalities if we do speak about exchanges. It is really that becoming that in every corners on which it is really that regulation would really be that always
attached into things on which we us users or gamblers would really be having no choice. If there are still some non-KYC platforms but still you cant really be that too confident
because once you do hit up a particular threshold then for sure you would really be needing to have that kind of verification which it isnt really that surprising anymore.
Valuing your privacy? but since these businesses are licensed then for sure you would really be having that kind of big problem.

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October 21, 2023, 09:04:31 PM
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I've had my digital footprint already embedded over the internet, if people and ad agencies ever decided to reach out to me to talk about my car's extended warranty, they could and they would. That's why I don't really care that much for my privacy especially in the case of gambling sites asking for information so they can allow me to gamble. I would be more than happy to verify my existence and have the chance to gamble than be stingy about it and not be allowed to. There's also just something about casinos who ask for KYC, something along the lines of security cause you know they are really paying cause there's no way in hell they're going to spend that much money and effort to implement a KYC feature if they're going to dip on their customers.

And I think once you created an account in social media, for sure they have your digital footprints already and it's hard to erase it. I have seen my footprints even in the early 2000's still in the Internet, (remember Lycos)? So yeah, if we think about it, maybe some of us doesn't care about the KYC or privacy as everyone is already on the internet like 15-20 years ago and their data are still there no matter what. It's that recently, specially when bitcoin or crypto was introduce, we somewhat become aware that we should stay anonymous.

But it is what it is now, it has evolved, regulators wanted to know everyone, and they don't want someone to hide on the guise of being anonymous in crypto and then do bad things, (hacks, scams, money laundering and others). And even if you go to land base casinos, you may want to get a card and avail it so that you can get mileage points and use it later. So you fill up everything to them. In case that they are hack, then obviously, your data can also be leaked just like in online casinos or any other crypto related services.
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October 21, 2023, 09:10:17 PM
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Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?

I love to read your thoughts on this.
If i win big at a new casino and they require me to do KYC then of course big doubts will come over me, i will definitely immediately rack my brain and do a little tricky thing to keep my privacy safe, that is by paying someone to do KYC for me.  i don't easily trust casino gambling sites that are relatively new, of course their system is still not well conceptualized and also the money they hold is not necessarily that much, rather than exposing my personal data to their site, it's better for me to pay someone a little money and do it KYC for me (just my thoughts, don't copy it lol)
kyc to some of us os not a big deal most especially when we have a big balance being stocked for lack of kYC to be able to withdraw,  this is not a case since most centralized casinos already have the rule in the T&C that,  if you want to withdraw an amount that is higher that $5k then you need to provide kyc to back up you limit at base which is below 5k for non kyc accounts.

Most casinos already have this rules well spelt out for their client to see and also align themselves to that,  some and most times,  gamblers will rather chose not to look at that aspect of the rules and there after go ahead to make attempt to either deposit or withdraw amount that is higher than their trenchhold which often lead them to confusion about the term and there after possibly blame the casino for they own failure to follow rules.
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October 21, 2023, 09:37:32 PM
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First of all, I wouldn't choose to deposit on a casino which I can't trust with my KYC details and since I am not a high roller I am always okay to provide the basic details such as National ID verification and liveness test too if needed.

I will not be giving them further details like bank statements, proof of income, or whatever you consider sensitive information to share with anyone.
Trusting a casino with our money is something we need to ponder about. We should not just put money on a casino with the attempt of winning and cashing out part of the funds we are going to earn from the casino without understanding have reputable the casino could be. The mistake many gamblers have made many times is not doing a good research about a casino before betting on it..we need to test any casino we are new to with little fund betting on it and cashing out before we can be rest assured that our funds on such casino will be safe from being freeze for no reason.

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October 21, 2023, 10:02:23 PM
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So, for some days now, I've had this thought of "how much some people really value their privacy in gambling", like as a gambler, you signed up on a new casino and immediately, you are allowed to deposit and play without going through a KYC verification process like we do on some casinos immediately after registration.
You start playing and luckily, you won a significant amount of money.

I know the word "significant" can mean different values for different gamblers, so let's use figures i personally think are significant and capable of changing lives.

So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.

Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?

I love to read your thoughts on this.
It's only gullibility that will lead someone to hastily deposit and play a game on a casino site where you are yet to do KYC and get verified. It's even enough reason for you to leave such sit if you are not asked for KYC before depositing, how would you be quick to want to deposit without knowing how you can retrieve back your Money, it sounds so unwise.

Most of the casinos who don't get their customers to get their KYC don before they win and want to withdraw, are most likely to be scam prone, they may not have the reputation enough to protect their customers, so it mostly advice whenever you are using a casino and they are quick to allow you deposit with out KYC, you have to be very weary of them to avoid becoming victims of scammers sites.

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October 22, 2023, 12:00:21 AM
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On this forum, I believe many of us would gladly sacrifice our privacy to snag that $70k prize mentioned in the original post. It's a no-brainer; we're all in this for the big bucks, and it's already right within our reach. The only thing standing between us and claiming the rewards is complying with the KYC requirements. Who in their right mind would say no? That would be utterly crazy. Of course, we'd go the extra mile to secure that massive prize, even if the gambling site demands KYC documents from our entire family. I'm confident there are still gamblers who won't think twice about whether it's reasonable; they'd simply comply and follow every request to clinch that massive win.

Gosh, $70k is a substantial sum. I don't want to come across as insincere, but opportunities like this don't come knocking every day. I might even consider retiring from my job once I get my hands on that money; it's truly a life-changing event. Although there's a risk associated with submitting KYC documents, with that kind of reward on the line, I wouldn't hesitate to do exactly as they ask.

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October 22, 2023, 12:51:53 AM
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Even if it's an irrational and untrustworthy gambling website, I'd be willing to undergo KYC verification and hold a glimmer of hope that the money will indeed be transferred. $70k is a substantial sum for me, enough to secure a home in my local area and lay the foundation for starting a family.

For anyone unwilling to complete KYC for the prospect of receiving $70k, they might be overlooking the practicalities. We live in challenging economic times, and a substantial sum can significantly ease our path through life.

However, in the event that the process becomes unnecessarily complex, and the casino potentially engages in a scam, I can only resign myself to the fact that my personal data has already been shared.
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October 22, 2023, 02:05:55 AM
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So, for some days now, I've had this thought of "how much some people really value their privacy in gambling", like as a gambler, you signed up on a new casino and immediately, you are allowed to deposit and play without going through a KYC verification process like we do on some casinos immediately after registration.
You start playing and luckily, you won a significant amount of money.

I know the word "significant" can mean different values for different gamblers, so let's use figures i personally think are significant and capable of changing lives.

So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.

Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?

I love to read your thoughts on this.

Well, it's a common process on any website, not just in casinos, to ask for KYC if you are going to withdraw money because how can they know where and whom they will send the money? But I understand your concern and worry. Maybe before depositing and playing on a website casino, make sure that it is legitimate. Do your assessment first, look for reviews to see if that website has a bad reputation when it comes to withdrawing money, and if not, then it is okay to provide your KYC to withdraw your money as it is the common process when it comes to withdrawal. especially if we are talking about a very huge amount of money. I personally agreed with KYC as long as the website itself is trustworthy, the website is secure, and they value the important impressions of their customers or players. So, in short, do your assessment first before playing on the website.

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October 22, 2023, 03:11:04 AM
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This is why the trust rating is very important because depend on this and we comply with their terms with a hope that our personal details will be safe from any harm. I actually have no choice but to comply with the KYC as most of the gambling site today have this requirements before you can actually maximize the platform’s full potential. I value my privacy of course in any way of life but if there’s a need to submit any personal details, I will follow it as long as its a good project or as long as the site is legit.
It's okay if you comply with the rules at the casino by doing KYC because at least you have done KYC at a trusted and popular casino. After all, that won't worry you. That's also what I would do if I found something similar like that. But if it were a shady casino, I wouldn't want to do KYC even if I managed to win a lot of money from the casino because the casino wouldn't want to part with the money that easily. We want to get privacy in gambling by not doing KYC, but we also can't refuse it if the regulator asks the casino to ask its customers to do KYC.
Understanding your privacy concerns when it comes to gambling is important. A KYC process is often required by trusted casino to comply with the rules and regulation set by gambling authorities. However, it is also important to do thorough research before engaging in gambling at a casino, especially to ensure the security of your personal informations.

If you are not comfortable with the KYC process at a particular casino, choosing a casino that is trustworthy and has a good reputations in terms of data privacy and security could be a wise move. Choosing to engage in gambling in a place that offers better privacy protection can help maintain your safety and sense of security in your gambling activities. It is always important to prioritize the security your personal informations in all situation.

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October 22, 2023, 12:43:39 PM
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Understanding your privacy concerns when it comes to gambling is important. A KYC process is often required by trusted casino to comply with the rules and regulation set by gambling authorities. However, it is also important to do thorough research before engaging in gambling at a casino, especially to ensure the security of your personal informations.

If you are not comfortable with the KYC process at a particular casino, choosing a casino that is trustworthy and has a good reputations in terms of data privacy and security could be a wise move. Choosing to engage in gambling in a place that offers better privacy protection can help maintain your safety and sense of security in your gambling activities. It is always important to prioritize the security your personal informations in all situation.
Research on the casino is also needed to find a casino that is suitable for us because of the many casinos, there are few casinos that we can use as a place to gamble and can be included in the list of casinos that we like. In determining a good casino for us, we also have to look at the KYC side of the casino because some casinos are flexible in implementing their KYC, so that is the kind of casino we are looking for. If we don't want to do KYC, we have to look for another casino even though it is difficult to find one because of regulations from the regulator, which require casinos to ask their customers to do KYC.

When playing gambling at online casinos, the comfort factor is the most important thing that we must be able to obtain. And that's why we can't follow other people's advice in choosing a casino because we really have to be able to find a casino that suits us. Remember to take your time gathering information about the casino to avoid making a mistake in choosing the casino.

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October 22, 2023, 12:57:56 PM
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First of all, I wouldn't choose to deposit on a casino which I can't trust with my KYC details and since I am not a high roller I am always okay to provide the basic details such as National ID verification and liveness test too if needed.
I think we are alike. I have now qualms with presenting my Passport or Utility bill to the online casino so long as I check trust pilot and several other platforms when honest reviews are given. Even this forum is one of them.

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I will not be giving them further details like bank statements, proof of income, or whatever you consider sensitive information to share with anyone.
Any online casino asking for these details are never going to be get it from me. They can have my winnings instead of me to devulge such sensitive personal details. I Amy even go as far as warning other gamblers to stay away from such a casino.

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October 22, 2023, 01:10:35 PM
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So, for some days now, I've had this thought of "how much some people really value their privacy in gambling", like as a gambler, you signed up on a new casino and immediately, you are allowed to deposit and play without going through a KYC verification process like we do on some casinos immediately after registration.
You start playing and luckily, you won a significant amount of money.

I know the word "significant" can mean different values for different gamblers, so let's use figures i personally think are significant and capable of changing lives.

So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.

Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?

I love to read your thoughts on this.

I will any casino that provides you huge amount of money to claim without you doing an kyc or had any job done is considered a scam (anything that sounds too good to be true ) they just want your info so they can access.
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October 22, 2023, 01:17:54 PM
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First of all, I wouldn't choose to deposit on a casino which I can't trust with my KYC details and since I am not a high roller I am always okay to provide the basic details such as National ID verification and liveness test too if needed.
I think we are alike. I have now qualms with presenting my Passport or Utility bill to the online casino so long as I check trust pilot and several other platforms when honest reviews are given. Even this forum is one of them.

So do I since would provably not trust those casino surprisingly ask us to do KYC even if they don't have any basis to do so or when they claim that they don't ask this like what they told on their thread. Even if I have money left on their platform still would not insist to do so since privacy is more important rather than getting those funds which we can still earn rather than trying to accept the risk that we maybe got an issue to come in future.

But its different story when a casino is transparent and ask this KYC at first since it can change every negative impression of people especially if they earned some good reputation on any site they are promoting especially here where reviews are legitimate given by many people.

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October 22, 2023, 01:28:58 PM
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So, for some days now, I've had this thought of "how much some people really value their privacy in gambling", like as a gambler, you signed up on a new casino and immediately, you are allowed to deposit and play without going through a KYC verification process like we do on some casinos immediately after registration.
You start playing and luckily, you won a significant amount of money.

I know the word "significant" can mean different values for different gamblers, so let's use figures i personally think are significant and capable of changing lives.

So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.

Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?

I love to read your thoughts on this.

Well, it's a common process on any website, not just in casinos, to ask for KYC if you are going to withdraw money because how can they know where and whom they will send the money? But I understand your concern and worry. Maybe before depositing and playing on a website casino, make sure that it is legitimate. Do your assessment first, look for reviews to see if that website has a bad reputation when it comes to withdrawing money, and if not, then it is okay to provide your KYC to withdraw your money as it is the common process when it comes to withdrawal. especially if we are talking about a very huge amount of money. I personally agreed with KYC as long as the website itself is trustworthy, the website is secure, and they value the important impressions of their customers or players. So, in short, do your assessment first before playing on the website.
Because of the many fraudulent activities on the internet space, these online casinos always request for their members to fully summit their full details in other to keep records whenever there's a significant win. They do this for future security purposes and to be able to provide valid information of their users who through their websites made money incase the need for investigation of any kind happens.
To me, I don't think it's a big deal to provide them with these personal information after carefully researching about them and knowing fully well that they're a certified and registered online casinos.

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