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October 22, 2023, 01:40:31 PM
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So, for some days now, I've had this thought of "how much some people really value their privacy in gambling", like as a gambler, you signed up on a new casino and immediately, you are allowed to deposit and play without going through a KYC verification process like we do on some casinos immediately after registration.
You start playing and luckily, you won a significant amount of money.

I know the word "significant" can mean different values for different gamblers, so let's use figures i personally think are significant and capable of changing lives.

So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.

Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?
First of all no scam site will ever let you win a big amount. And if you transfer a huge amount like $70k from a site and it gets added to your balance. and if they demand Kyc from you to withdraw it then I don't think anyone will feel shy to do kyc at that time. as for me I always use reputable casinos and if I win a big amount there I never hesitate to kyc there. And one who is worried about kyc should not gamble. Because if you want to gamble regularly on a site you have to do kyc and those who don't gamble regularly can't win a big amount.



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October 22, 2023, 01:54:20 PM
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I value my privacy and I wouldn't use a casino that requires it, but let's say we have a strange situation, where I got mislead by the casino and thought there's no KYC, played for a bit and won a lot of money, but they want my private information. If there was a way to use someone else's data, I'd pay someone part of the profits to do KYC posing as me. Yes' I'd try to cheat here, but I'd feel cheated by the casino in the first place, so an eye for an eye Wink
If there was no way to do that without raising suspicion and risking all the money, I'd probably do KYC and take the money.
We're talking about $70k, so that's like a 3 year wage for me.
And this is the importance on reading up sites terms and conditions on which if they are really that having no KYC kind of term but having those side notes about having that having the full rights on asking one
then there's nothing you can do because they do have the rights on doing so on whatever they do like or when but usually it would really be talking about withdrawal period or moments but if you havent been able to
read up any KYC related kind of information then suddenly there's one on the time that they would be pointing for you to read on and then viola there's that info then it is really that surely be shady.
This is why it would really be that always important that you should really make out some screen shots if you are really that having no trust in the first place so that just in case that you've win something big
then you could really be able to show up some proofs that you havent been able to read something and that would bust them up but since majority of us doesnt really care on reading up sites terms and conditions
then for sure there's no choice for us to have at least some valid reasoning.

Showing no proofs about those kind of allegations or accusations would really be ending up on getting ignored which do really sucks. This is why if you do really value your privacy then
deal up with those platforms which you do know that they arent asking some KYC on the time that you do win big, but honestly finding one nowadays
is really not that easy anymore.Majority of them does have that kind of terms that they do have the rights on asking some verification anytime they want.

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October 22, 2023, 02:20:40 PM
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So, for some days now, I've had this thought of "how much some people really value their privacy in gambling", like as a gambler, you signed up on a new casino and immediately, you are allowed to deposit and play without going through a KYC verification process like we do on some casinos immediately after registration.
You start playing and luckily, you won a significant amount of money.

I know the word "significant" can mean different values for different gamblers, so let's use figures i personally think are significant and capable of changing lives.

So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.

Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?

I love to read your thoughts on this.

I value my privacy as long as I know it's secure. For example, I don't mind handing over identity documents in order to play on gambling sites, however they better treat them with the highest security because otherwise your private information can be used in identity fraud against you. This is why I only feel comfortable handing over documents to the very biggest sites who would have the resources to put into such secure storage, otherwise their reputation could be wiped out along with the huge profits they make every year.

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October 22, 2023, 03:42:26 PM
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But its different story when a casino is transparent and ask this KYC at first since it can change every negative impression of people especially if they earned some good reputation on any site they are promoting especially here where reviews are legitimate given by many people.
Yeah, that is my point. Before trusting a platform with my money I will look at their reputation and complete KYC if needed then go on further which will ease the misunderstanding between platform and user. I am not a big fan of reviews though but it helps in identifying the casino that farms their reputation with paid reviews which will be normally from bots and the legitimate ones with actual people writing the feedback.

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October 22, 2023, 03:43:45 PM
Last edit: October 22, 2023, 04:29:50 PM by slapper
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I value my privacy and I wouldn't use a casino that requires it, but let's say we have a strange situation, where I got mislead by the casino and thought there's no KYC, played for a bit and won a lot of money, but they want my private information. If there was a way to use someone else's data, I'd pay someone part of the profits to do KYC posing as me. Yes' I'd try to cheat here, but I'd feel cheated by the casino in the first place, so an eye for an eye Wink
If there was no way to do that without raising suspicion and risking all the money, I'd probably do KYC and take the money.
We're talking about $70k, so that's like a 3 year wage for me.
And this is the importance on reading up sites terms and conditions on which if they are really that having no KYC kind of term but having those side notes about having that having the full rights on asking one
then there's nothing you can do because they do have the rights on doing so on whatever they do like or when but usually it would really be talking about withdrawal period or moments but if you havent been able to
read up any KYC related kind of information then suddenly there's one on the time that they would be pointing for you to read on and then viola there's that info then it is really that surely be shady.
This is why it would really be that always important that you should really make out some screen shots if you are really that having no trust in the first place so that just in case that you've win something big
then you could really be able to show up some proofs that you havent been able to read something and that would bust them up but since majority of us doesnt really care on reading up sites terms and conditions
then for sure there's no choice for us to have at least some valid reasoning.

Showing no proofs about those kind of allegations or accusations would really be ending up on getting ignored which do really sucks. This is why if you do really value your privacy then
deal up with those platforms which you do know that they arent asking some KYC on the time that you do win big, but honestly finding one nowadays
is really not that easy anymore.Majority of them does have that kind of terms that they do have the rights on asking some verification anytime they want.
Online gambling and amusement require careful reading of terms and conditions. Everyone has seen it - me, you, and us. Sites hide KYC clauses, then bang! They strike unexpectedly. Like, "Hello? Not what I signed up for!" But guess what? You technically did...

I constantly say (and I mean this seriously) screenshot everything. Consider it an online golden rule. Screenshot untrustworthy sites. Still screenshot a trusted site! Because when you win big you want everything covered. Show them, "Hey, I've got the proof right here!"

The kicker: most people don't read. They don't. When things go wrong, they're astonished. The shame is real. You must be clever to protect your privacy and winnings. You must be proactive. Finding a platform without KYC when you win? Good luck! Extremely rare. Always watch out and be ready. That's key!

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October 22, 2023, 04:09:14 PM
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But its different story when a casino is transparent and ask this KYC at first since it can change every negative impression of people especially if they earned some good reputation on any site they are promoting especially here where reviews are legitimate given by many people.
Yeah, that is my point. Before trusting a platform with my money I will look at their reputation and complete KYC if needed then go on further which will ease the misunderstanding between platform and user. I am not a big fan of reviews though but it helps in identifying the casino that farms their reputation with paid reviews which will be normally from bots and the legitimate ones with actual people writing the feedback.

I myself have said before that platforms should ask for KYC if they plan to do so before anyone can deposit money and not only ask for KYC once someone won something. But then again I wonder if someone is dealing with a platform that also intends to scam, what does it help when KYC is provided and approved beforehand? Does it even make a difference? If a platform approves KYC and there is a big win, firstly they could still say that their security department found that there is something missing or wrong with the documentation provided, and secondly they could just scam someone and come up with all kinds of reasons that are hard to counter, like some suspicious playing behavior and then they don't provide proof themselves, we know how they do it.

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October 22, 2023, 10:41:27 PM
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First of all no scam site will ever let you win a big amount. And if you transfer a huge amount like $70k from a site and it gets added to your balance. and if they demand Kyc from you to withdraw it then I don't think anyone will feel shy to do kyc at that time. as for me I always use reputable casinos and if I win a big amount there I never hesitate to kyc there. And one who is worried about kyc should not gamble. Because if you want to gamble regularly on a site you have to do kyc and those who don't gamble regularly can't win a big amount.

We don’t know this exactly,because they can allow to make big win and scam at the end.The scam sites also allow to make big win and check at the end of kyc verification was compulsory at the end.Kepping the kyc compulsory doesn’t the problem,but it’s essential to accept the kyc after the submission.If the gambling site is scam,they first waste your time by approve of the kyc verification.Then they will ask to submit the kyc again and again by saying the kyc was not clear.At the end they will ban your account by saying the fake reason like,you had send the wrong kyc or the vpn was used by you on the playing of gamblig game.
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October 22, 2023, 10:59:06 PM
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Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?

I love to read your thoughts on this.

Are we talking about $70,000? In my opinion it is a very large amount and I personally would be happy to carry out the KYC process as long as the money can be withdrawn. To be honest I don't like kyc but doing kyc with that much money is not something bad

I'm still an ordinary person and I think $70k is a lot of money to fight for so even though I don't really like KYC but for the sake of $70k it's not a problem for me. My idealism would be crushed by $70k  Cheesy
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Research on the casino is also needed to find a casino that is suitable for us because of the many casinos, there are few casinos that we can use as a place to gamble and can be included in the list of casinos that we like. In determining a good casino for us, we also have to look at the KYC side of the casino because some casinos are flexible in implementing their KYC, so that is the kind of casino we are looking for. If we don't want to do KYC, we have to look for another casino even though it is difficult to find one because of regulations from the regulator, which require casinos to ask their customers to do KYC.

When playing gambling at online casinos, the comfort factor is the most important thing that we must be able to obtain. And that's why we can't follow other people's advice in choosing a casino because we really have to be able to find a casino that suits us. Remember to take your time gathering information about the casino to avoid making a mistake in choosing the casino.
Yes thats right, doing thorough research about the casino before getting involved in gambling is a wise moved. Identifying casinos that suit your preferences and needs, including their flexibility in implementing KYC procedures, can help ensure a safe and enjoyable gambling experience. Some casinos do have more flexible KYC rules, which can accommodate your privacy and personal data security preferences.

However, regulatory regulations requiring casinos to request KYC remain in effect, and it is important to comply with applicable regulations in the region. Thus, it is important to find a casino that not only suits your gaming preference, but also complies with the rules and regulation imposed by the competent authorities.

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October 23, 2023, 06:26:58 AM
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Even if it's an irrational and untrustworthy gambling website, I'd be willing to undergo KYC verification and hold a glimmer of hope that the money will indeed be transferred. $70k is a substantial sum for me, enough to secure a home in my local area and lay the foundation for starting a family.

For anyone unwilling to complete KYC for the prospect of receiving $70k, they might be overlooking the practicalities. We live in challenging economic times, and a substantial sum can significantly ease our path through life.

However, in the event that the process becomes unnecessarily complex, and the casino potentially engages in a scam, I can only resign myself to the fact that my personal data has already been shared.
I totally agree with that, and I believe a lot of people would go for it, some might hesitate, but since the money involved is enough to make up your mind, anyone with their heart in the right place would not bother giving their personal details for the sake of a sum that can change their lives, even if it doesn't change one's life, it will at least make things easier for them because as you said, the times are difficult in any part of the world right now, everywhere!

As you said, even if the platform turns out to be a scam, later on, one can settle down without any regrets thinking that they have at least tried. If someone doesn't do it and refuses to take the money only for the sake of not sharing their personal documents and then hears that someone actually did withdraw a big sum from them, the regret will be unforgettable.

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So, for some days now, I've had this thought of "how much some people really value their privacy in gambling", like as a gambler, you signed up on a new casino and immediately, you are allowed to deposit and play without going through a KYC verification process like we do on some casinos immediately after registration.
You start playing and luckily, you won a significant amount of money.

I know the word "significant" can mean different values for different gamblers, so let's use figures i personally think are significant and capable of changing lives.

So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.

Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?

I love to read your thoughts on this.


Privacy is something that I highly value and is actually one of my criteria when choosing a casino. So my answer would be it depends on the casino. If ever that this happens to me, the first thing that I will do is to check if the casino is reliable and credible, and if they have established trust with their customers. If not, then I will not have any second thoughts but to refuse this because I will not give up my privacy just for the sake of earning that kind of money. Even though that is an immense amount of money, I will not do it as there is no money that would amount of my privacy. Secondly, I am aware that KYC is needed in every transaction, but I don't think that there casinos that requires their customer to give their "private information" because I don't think this would be necessary at all. So, I think the best way is to know the casino first. This is just my opinion.



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October 23, 2023, 12:59:10 PM
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Yes thats right, doing thorough research about the casino before getting involved in gambling is a wise moved. Identifying casinos that suit your preferences and needs, including their flexibility in implementing KYC procedures, can help ensure a safe and enjoyable gambling experience. Some casinos do have more flexible KYC rules, which can accommodate your privacy and personal data security preferences.

However, regulatory regulations requiring casinos to request KYC remain in effect, and it is important to comply with applicable regulations in the region. Thus, it is important to find a casino that not only suits your gaming preference, but also complies with the rules and regulation imposed by the competent authorities.
Thorough research about the casino will prevent us from all the problems that could arise later. We don't need to worry about choosing the wrong casino because we can get the one that suits us. By making sure the casino is the casino we are looking for, we can feel comfortable when gambling, and even though we will be asked to do KYC by the casino, we won't mind. We already know that the casino can protect the data we provide and provide us with privacy so that we don't have to worry about anything.

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October 23, 2023, 01:28:35 PM
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Privacy is much concerned, but when it comes to money and there is a need to reveal our identity I'll go with it. Life changing moments won't happen all the time, and opportunity missed is missed forever. I don't want to lose it and struggle for the rest of my life. Many people prefer gambling with cryptocurrencies to keep their gambling activities hidden from the outer world. Gambling is all about luck and why should we avoid the luck. Also there is no assurance that you'll get lucky to win same as this in the future. To avoid such confusions the better choice is to prefer the trusted platform for gambling, so that there is nothing to worry.

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October 23, 2023, 01:43:59 PM
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Privacy is much concerned, but when it comes to money and there is a need to reveal our identity I'll go with it. Life changing moments won't happen all the time, and opportunity missed is missed forever. I don't want to lose it and struggle for the rest of my life. Many people prefer gambling with cryptocurrencies to keep their gambling activities hidden from the outer world. Gambling is all about luck and why should we avoid the luck. Also there is no assurance that you'll get lucky to win same as this in the future. To avoid such confusions the better choice is to prefer the trusted platform for gambling, so that there is nothing to worry.

New gamblers was not ready to accept the kyc verification at the beginning,because they need of extreme privacy.After the gambling sites ask the gambler to do kyc verification for the withdrew of the money,then they will do the kyc for the money.So the money is always ultimate one,the gamblers doing gambling for the money generation for their life.The gambling is based on the luck and the gambler should agreed this point and do the gambling with the game responsibility.The way of accepting the loss in the gambling was the difference between the experienced and the new gamblers in the gambling.
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October 23, 2023, 01:59:20 PM
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Given the situation by @OP,  I will definitely undergo KYC on that platform in order to withdraw the amount.  It is a life changing amount in my country where I can buy my own house, a car and some amount to start-up a business.  What is privacy when I am starving to death.  At least I can exchange my privacy to a life changing amount.  Besides, I am in hope that the platform will take care of my data and won't sell it in the market.  Besides, this is not my first time to undergo full KYC in a platform.  Grin


There's no wrong with submitting our KYC details as long as we know that the casino is legit and is reputable. Even if it's a new casino, that does not mean that it's not reputable and can't be trusted anymore. Remember that big and successful casinos these days have all started from a scratch. So if you trust that casino, then submit KYC and give all the documents that they need so you can withdraw your big win. What is privacy actually in exchange for a life changing winning amount. I'm sure a lot here would do the same.

This is the reason why conducting research before playing on a casino is a must. If you don't want to get scam, then do prior preparations before gambling. But sometimes those we expect that are reputable and legit casinos still fall as scams. In that case, we don't hold the control anymore.

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October 23, 2023, 02:23:58 PM
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But its different story when a casino is transparent and ask this KYC at first since it can change every negative impression of people especially if they earned some good reputation on any site they are promoting especially here where reviews are legitimate given by many people.
Yeah, that is my point. Before trusting a platform with my money I will look at their reputation and complete KYC if needed then go on further which will ease the misunderstanding between platform and user. I am not a big fan of reviews though but it helps in identifying the casino that farms their reputation with paid reviews which will be normally from bots and the legitimate ones with actual people writing the feedback.

If you make use of a casino and supply ball their requirements for KYC is one advantage on itself, but if we choose not to go by having any requests on KYC then we can decide not to use a KYC casino from the selection of our choice, because here we are considering the most important aspect of our personal life which is privacy in gambling, users mostly have issues with using the gambling platforms immediately they discovered that they were unable to supply every required documents for kyc, that's why it's always best going for a no KYC casino before starting.
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October 23, 2023, 04:59:47 PM
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There's no wrong with submitting our KYC details as long as we know that the casino is legit and is reputable. Even if it's a new casino, that does not mean that it's not reputable and can't be trusted anymore. Remember that big and successful casinos these days have all started from a scratch. So if you trust that casino, then submit KYC and give all the documents that they need so you can withdraw your big win. What is privacy actually in exchange for a life changing winning amount. I'm sure a lot here would do the same.
Every new casino must be reviewed from all aspects of security and trustworthiness, we need time to assess the reputation of the new casino, reputation must be based on feedback from users and the community. Unless a new casino has been released from a joint project between 2 top casino companies, they are committed to creating a new casino and that casino automatically has the inherent reputation of the previous casino.

So be wise in assessing the reputation of each casino because it affects the KYC documents that you verify, make sure you choose a top casino that already has a trusted reputation and you don't feel worried about the KYC that has been used at the casino.

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October 23, 2023, 05:08:18 PM
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Privacy is much concerned, but when it comes to money and there is a need to reveal our identity I'll go with it. Life changing moments won't happen all the time, and opportunity missed is missed forever. I don't want to lose it and struggle for the rest of my life. Many people prefer gambling with cryptocurrencies to keep their gambling activities hidden from the outer world. Gambling is all about luck and why should we avoid the luck. Also there is no assurance that you'll get lucky to win same as this in the future. To avoid such confusions the better choice is to prefer the trusted platform for gambling, so that there is nothing to worry.

It is better just to go with a reliable platform, even if you need to reveal your personal information once to that platform.
Also, nowadays I would dare to say that using cryptocurrency does not guarantee anonymity these days, with the software and technology related to Blockchain analysis and also regulation.
There is a good reason why there not many popular casinos which like to give support to Monero, which is a truly decentralized and 100% anonymous alternative cryptocurrency. If some big casino started to accept Monero or other privacy focused coins, then regulators would intervene, obviously.

So, it is harder to remain fully anonymous nowadays while gambling, not as I have read on the old days, when Bitcoin was considered actually anonymous.

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Thorough research about the casino will prevent us from all the problems that could arise later. We don't need to worry about choosing the wrong casino because we can get the one that suits us. By making sure the casino is the casino we are looking for, we can feel comfortable when gambling, and even though we will be asked to do KYC by the casino, we won't mind. We already know that the casino can protect the data we provide and provide us with privacy so that we don't have to worry about anything.

And finding a suitable casino can make us comfortable when gambling. By always doing thorough research on the casinos, we can provide a list of casinos that are suitable for us so that we don't just have one casino but several casinos that are really suitable for us when gambling.
Yes, doing research about casino beforehand can help you find a suitable place to gamble. Paying attention to factors such as reputation, privacy policy, game variety, bonuses, and ease of payment processing can help you determine the casino that suits your preferences and needs.

By having several suitable casino options, you can access a diverse gambling experience that suits your wishes. By identifying casinos that offer a comfortable and safe environment, you can ensure that your gambling experience is smooth and enjoyable, stay be careful and do thorough research to find the casino that best suits your gambling preferences and style.

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October 24, 2023, 01:49:52 AM
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First of all no scam site will ever let you win a big amount. And if you transfer a huge amount like $70k from a site and it gets added to your balance. and if they demand Kyc from you to withdraw it then I don't think anyone will feel shy to do kyc at that time. as for me I always use reputable casinos and if I win a big amount there I never hesitate to kyc there. And one who is worried about kyc should not gamble. Because if you want to gamble regularly on a site you have to do kyc and those who don't gamble regularly can't win a big amount.

You can play and actually win big in a scam casino. The problem lies in the withdrawal of your winnings. You would have your account blocked and likely be accused of cheating the system with no proof or specific reason.
If you’ve chosen to be a regular on a particular online casino, then it’s best you should complete KYC from the start. Most people do KYC whenever they’ve got their winning stuck on the casino and you are now required to do it before your winnings are released. To avoid all of this, it’s better to do it from the start.
Your point about people who don’t gamble regularly can’t win a substantial amount is not entirely accurate. I believe it’s possible to win a big sum on your very first bet.

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