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November 13, 2023, 04:15:32 AM
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So all the local boards that have bad comments about the translation, ban the translation on those boards. Also make translation free on other native boards that would be the best strategy/justice.

Buddy, what you are proposing here is wrong. You can't ban translation just because of some fraudulent translations. The author could make a rule that "new members won't be accepted for translation". Also, all the local boards have very senior members. They can review the translations before they are accepted. That way, unqualified translations would be removed. Also you could report unqualified translation to the original author. That will help them take action against them.

The OP made the post because our local board/thread (Bangla) had some fraudulent translations. But if you look closely, you'll find many good translators in our Bangla community. We also have a DT member, Little Mouse. We have good members, like Learn Bitcoin and Crypto Library. These members can review those translations before they are posted. So yes, as you can see, banning is not the solution.

Read all the pages. Other members have already given the solution. Especially the last commemt by 1miau.  Wink

I might add further rules, if there's abuse happening or might reject translations of course, after local board members confirm here that it's a low-quality translation. We need high-quality translations, so by providing low-quality translations, no one is doing anyone a favor.

For now, we will just check each translation if it's a fraudulent one and if so, it'll get rejected and possibly a DT tag as well. Easy job to get rid of abusers.  Smiley

Most likely yes, most translations are legitimate ones and I believe a good translation also deserves a reward, so we are going to check each translation in detail, at least for new translators. We might skip to check proven translators or only check translations on a case to case basis and local board members can also report fraudulent translations in that topic. Doing so will probably reduce fraudulent translations by 95%.

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November 13, 2023, 05:59:01 AM
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I'm a normal user so my words won't be that useful. If you like what I say, give it some thought. Translation is not bad, you can learn a lot in your native language by translating (because not everyone can be proficient in English). Because there is no end to human learning?, so all the local boards that have bad comments about the translation, ban the translation on those boards. Also make translation free on other native boards that would be the best strategy/justice.

Dude, how can anyone ban someone from translating something? Even if basing on copyright, if someone will find something really interesting which will want to share on his local board he can even retell the main point in his own words. If not to be bothered with merit farming, you can share nearly any interesting and important information on your local board, just don't forget to leave links on a source of that info. Wink

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November 13, 2023, 12:11:41 PM
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I'm a normal user so my words won't be that useful. If you like what I say, give it some thought. Translation is not bad, you can learn a lot in your native language by translating (because not everyone can be proficient in English). Because there is no end to human learning?, so all the local boards that have bad comments about the translation, ban the translation on those boards. Also make translation free on other native boards that would be the best strategy/justice.

Dude, how can anyone ban someone from translating something? Even if basing on copyright, if someone will find something really interesting which will want to share on his local board he can even retell the main point in his own words. If not to be bothered with merit farming, you can share nearly any interesting and important information on your local board, just don't forget to leave links on a source of that info. Wink

The root cause of this problem will be solved if merit sources stop distributing so much merit for translation and are more selective when accepting someone's request for translation. Some newbies want to rank up and they want to do that fast. They look for possible way from where they can get a lot of merit. Perhaps if we could give a recognition badge to all the skilled translator that could be enough as a reward.
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November 13, 2023, 12:38:37 PM
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The root cause of this problem will be solved if merit sources stop distributing so much merit for translation and are more selective when accepting someone's request for translation. Some newbies want to rank up and they want to do that fast. They look for possible way from where they can get a lot of merit. Perhaps if we could give a recognition badge to all the skilled translators that could be enough as a reward.

Unfortunately, theymos won't patch the forum just to include the translator badge. A translation needs a lot of effort to do it. So, awarding translations is not bad. The problem is, that the authors do not have a way to judge the quality of translations unless someone from that local helps.

It is good that you guys pointed out the bad translations and the author also looked into it as 1miau already said, he will ask us or other native speakers to check the translation before he rearwards. The matter is kind of solved now. So DVlog brother, I suggest you to lock this thread to avoid repeated discussion of same thing that we already discussed.

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November 13, 2023, 04:39:06 PM
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Perhaps if we could give a recognition badge to all the skilled translators that could be enough as a reward.
Unfortunately, theymos won't patch the forum just to include the translator badge.

Such a "badge" could consist in a feedback left by the author of the original text to the translator, similar to the feedbacks left my 1miau or me. It would represent a recognition of translator's work (or, by case, a warning -- similar to the feedback I felt to gagux123 for his unprofessional attitude regarding translations).

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November 14, 2023, 02:08:34 AM
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I'm a normal user so my words won't be that useful. If you like what I say, give it some thought. Translation is not bad, you can learn a lot in your native language by translating (because not everyone can be proficient in English). Because there is no end to human learning?, so all the local boards that have bad comments about the translation, ban the translation on those boards. Also make translation free on other native boards that would be the best strategy/justice.
Yes, translations are not bad, what's bad are bad translations.
And we will weed out abuser's bad translations, while we will reward quality translations. It'll be checked by several established local board members.
Yes, we want quality translations. That's why we are going to check all the translations.
If your translation is legit, everything is fine.   Smiley



So yes, as you can see, banning is not the solution.
I think his comment was more meant like "just because some local board members complained about bad translations, [we need a solution]". Maybe there's a "not" too much in that sentence as well because FinePoine0 has requested a translation from me as well, so banning translations wouldn't be something, I feel, he would advocate for.
Or he was referring to certain bad translations to get banned (which got exposed), not banning translations in general.
I've read it several times and I don't get the meaning.

We'll simply set up a topic dedicated to checking local board translations to weed out bad translations, as discussed.
It's not ready yet but as soon as it's ready I'll link it here.  Smiley
I've a draft already but I'm a bit busy, so probably next 7 to 10 days, when it'll be 100% ready.  Smiley

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