WHY A 360 SECOND DELAY???

[Harib]

I've never encountered any delay on any forum previously.

What's the point - to try to make the board less useful? To cut down on posts? Then why have a posting board?

Why should I have to wait 6 MINUTES in between my posts?
I feel I am making contributions - but this is wasting my time.

Another lovely aspect of this is that when it gives the fabulous "There has been less than 360 seconds since your last post" it doesn't preserve the attempted post - so all the work that has gone into the post is lost.

Any way this can be removed?

What about simply banning posters who are a problem/spamming/whatever, rather than wasting the time of your members with an onerous system?

[mintodev]

They set this rules to avoid spamming by new members. This is the good security option. But unfortunately, you loose the data when you type in the thread. You need to save the data and post if you are typing very long.

[hilariousandco]

Any way this can be removed?

Yes. The time limit goes down the more activity you get. It's annoying but you'll get used to it. You can save a draft of your post by previewing it first. The attempted post might actually be saved too but I'm not sure. Check your drafts.

[apsvinet]

This is nothing new. If you haven't noticed earlier it's because you haven't tried to post more than once within 6 minutes before. Just keep posting, be active, and the limit goes down. I for example have been here for approx 2 months, and my posting restriction is 28 seconds.

[Lauda]

The limit is not high enough.

[apsvinet]

The limit is not high enough.

I agree, newbies should only have a few posts available per day, rather than just 6 minutes in-between them.

[Taras]

Once you get enough activity, you won't have any limit at all.
I could post 15 times a minute or more if I wanted to.
You'll get there faster than you think.

[apsvinet]

Once you get enough activity, you won't have any limit at all.
I could post 15 times a minute or more if I wanted to.
You'll get there faster than you think.

You've been here for 10 months tho. That's not really faster than anyone thinks, I think!
However nobody posts 15 times a minute, which means all restriction changes after like 70 activity ( 28 seconds between posts ) doesn't really matter.

[Taras]

Once you get enough activity, you won't have any limit at all.
I could post 15 times a minute or more if I wanted to.
You'll get there faster than you think.

You've been here for 10 months tho. That's not really faster than anyone thinks, I think!
However nobody posts 15 times a minute, which means all restriction changes after like 70 activity ( 28 seconds between posts ) doesn't really matter.

Yeah, once I really started posting (back when newbie jail was in effect), I realized I was a Jr. Member very quickly. I could post vigorously in no time.

[apsvinet]

Once you get enough activity, you won't have any limit at all.
I could post 15 times a minute or more if I wanted to.
You'll get there faster than you think.

You've been here for 10 months tho. That's not really faster than anyone thinks, I think!
However nobody posts 15 times a minute, which means all restriction changes after like 70 activity ( 28 seconds between posts ) doesn't really matter.

Yeah, once I really started posting (back when newbie jail was in effect), I realized I was a Jr. Member very quickly. I could post vigorously in no time.

And that's how the system is supposed to work! Invest time into your account, earn privileges!

[jambola2]

Once you get enough activity, you won't have any limit at all.
I could post 15 times a minute or more if I wanted to.
You'll get there faster than you think.

You've been here for 10 months tho. That's not really faster than anyone thinks, I think!
However nobody posts 15 times a minute, which means all restriction changes after like 70 activity ( 28 seconds between posts ) doesn't really matter.

I think that change occurs after 56 activity , because its probably based on the activity tiers.

[Buziss]

The exact formulae for time limit can be found in the newbie readme.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177133.msg5106206#msg5106206

Code:

waittime = 360;
if(activity >= 15)
        waittime = (int)(90 - activity);
if(activity >= 60)
        waittime=(int)(34.7586 - (0.0793103 * activity));
if(activity >= 100)
        waittime = max((int)(14-(activity/50)), 4);

[apsvinet]

I didn't realize there was a limit on posting   


~BCX~

Psch, of course the 700 activity guy didn't.. :>

[Domino]

I didn't realize there was a limit on posting   


~BCX~

Psch, of course the 700 activity guy didn't.. :>

He was once a newbie long long long time ago.

[jambola2]

Okay , so the formula means that your posting limit is once every 12 seconds at 100 activity and it reduces by 1 second every 50 activity.
It caps out at 500 activity , when you can post every 4 seconds.

Point being , once you have 100 activity there is no practical limit to posting speed.

[Patron92]

There is a bigger delay on reddit for example. It helps to strugle with spam a lot!

[apsvinet]

Okay , so the formula means that your posting limit is once every 12 seconds at 100 activity and it reduces by 1 second every 50 activity.
It caps out at 500 activity , when you can post every 4 seconds.

Point being , once you have 100 activity there is no practical limit to posting speed.

At 70 there's 28 second limit, nobody posts 2 non-spam posts within 28 seconds of each other, which means already by then you won't notice the restriction whatsoever.

[jiangkand1]

I've never encountered any delay on any forum previously.

What's the point - to try to make the board less useful? To cut down on posts? Then why have a posting board?

Why should I have to wait 6 MINUTES in between my posts?
I feel I am making contributions - but this is wasting my time.

Another lovely aspect of this is that when it gives the fabulous "There has been less than 360 seconds since your last post" it doesn't preserve the attempted post - so all the work that has gone into the post is lost.

Any way this can be removed?

What about simply banning posters who are a problem/spamming/whatever, rather than wasting the time of your members with an onerous system?

Even if someone makes 50 accounts and spam, their posts get deleted and if it keeps happening they get banned. So there's not really a problem. The problem is if they could post straight away, so even if their accounts got banned they hadn't invested any time into it, and could just create a new one straight away, and start over.

[apsvinet]

I've never encountered any delay on any forum previously.

What's the point - to try to make the board less useful? To cut down on posts? Then why have a posting board?

Why should I have to wait 6 MINUTES in between my posts?
I feel I am making contributions - but this is wasting my time.

Another lovely aspect of this is that when it gives the fabulous "There has been less than 360 seconds since your last post" it doesn't preserve the attempted post - so all the work that has gone into the post is lost.

Any way this can be removed?

What about simply banning posters who are a problem/spamming/whatever, rather than wasting the time of your members with an onerous system?

Also to add the reason you've a delay is a newbie is to stop spam. "Then why have a posting board?" Well, I'd rather have fewer newbie posts than loads of spam.

[surfer43]

Do you really believe this does more good than harm? All it takes is a few months for a spammer to have 50 accounts that can post without restriction. This just makes newbies annoyed (I remember how annoying this was)

[hilariousandco]

Do you really believe this does more good than harm? All it takes is a few months for a spammer to have 50 accounts that can post without restriction. This just makes newbies annoyed (I remember how annoying this was)

Would have to be a pretty persistent spammer.

[apsvinet]

Do you really believe this does more good than harm? All it takes is a few months for a spammer to have 50 accounts that can post without restriction. This just makes newbies annoyed (I remember how annoying this was)

Would have to be a pretty persistent spammer.

Even if someone makes 50 accounts and spam, their posts get deleted and if it keeps happening they get banned. So there's not really a problem. The problem is if they could post straight away, so even if their accounts got banned they hadn't invested any time into it, and could just create a new one straight away, and start over.

[Onews1990]

a 360 seconds is required to post between ones for ones with low status and post count. just wait for few weeks and it will be something between 30-60 seconds.

[Lauda]

There is to much spam even with that delay.

[apsvinet]

There is to much spam even with that delay.

There's a thread in the meta about introducing newbie jail again. Go there and show your support.

[JunkieMiner]

though it helps against spammers I hate that much!

[Acidyo]

The limit is not high enough.

I agree, newbies should only have a few posts available per day, rather than just 6 minutes in-between them.

They should start with a 100 minute delay, every time they make a post it decreases by a minute.

Problem solved.

[apsvinet]

The limit is not high enough.

I agree, newbies should only have a few posts available per day, rather than just 6 minutes in-between them.

They should start with a 100 minute delay, every time they make a post it decreases by a minute.

Problem solved.

This is actually


quite brilliant.
Maybe a little harsh, but definitely on the right path.

[psylent]

An Error Has Occurred!
The last posting from your IP was less than 360 seconds ago. Please try again later.


Well another error has occured, this user is not going to waste their time on a forum like this, if you want to frustrate your users then this is the way to go, if you want the same users posting the same crap then this is the way to go.

Most people will see that and go "well screw that forum" and just go somewhere else (like I am).

It's a joke, if the moderators and site admin are so incompetent they cannot setup decent anti-spam measures then the forum cannot be worthwhile to be a member of.

Many forums manage without these stupid restrictions.

anyway enough said, enjoy your forum of 'old posters only'.

[Light]

Honestly if you're not spamming I find it hard to believe you can't wait 6 minutes to post your useful, relevant and informative post. I mean really 6 minutes isn't even that big of a time delay - unless you have the incessesant desire to spam.

[hilariousandco]

An Error Has Occurred!
The last posting from your IP was less than 360 seconds ago. Please try again later.


Well another error has occured, this user is not going to waste their time on a forum like this, if you want to frustrate your users then this is the way to go, if you want the same users posting the same crap then this is the way to go.

Most people will see that and go "well screw that forum" and just go somewhere else (like I am).

It's a joke, if the moderators and site admin are so incompetent they cannot setup decent anti-spam measures then the forum cannot be worthwhile to be a member of.

Many forums manage without these stupid restrictions.

anyway enough said, enjoy your forum of 'old posters only'.

It's annoying but everybody had to deal with it, and if you were serious about posting here you would've just persevered and waited it out.

[vnvizow]

Just to confirm this only happens with newbie accounts right? I don't seem to have the problem

[liu2014]

i get 360 second without even posting for the whole day.

sometimes i get this
You already submitted this post! You might have accidently double clicked, or tried to refresh.

[hilariousandco]

Just to confirm this only happens with newbie accounts right? I don't seem to have the problem

Newbies only get the 360 delay, but it decreases with the more activity you get. I think Full Members is ten seconds or something, but you're unlikely to notice it unless you can write another post in that amount of time.

i get 360 second without even posting for the whole day.

sometimes i get this
You already submitted this post! You might have accidently double clicked, or tried to refresh.

Log-ins and attempted posts count and reset the clock. You need to wait the full six minutes after you log in or post.

[vnvizow]

i get 360 second without even posting for the whole day.

sometimes i get this
You already submitted this post! You might have accidently double clicked, or tried to refresh.

Account might be hacked?

[hilariousandco]

i get 360 second without even posting for the whole day.

sometimes i get this
You already submitted this post! You might have accidently double clicked, or tried to refresh.

Account might be hacked?

Nah, just see my above post. He's just not waiting the full 360 seconds.

[ORiN]

It is actually a problem for users of certain countries whereby users have dynamic IPs.

[apsvinet]

i get 360 second without even posting for the whole day.

sometimes i get this
You already submitted this post! You might have accidently double clicked, or tried to refresh.

Account might be hacked?

Nah, just see my above post. He's just not waiting the full 360 seconds.

I don't think it refreshes when you try to post again, at least it doesn't for me. Can't remember how it was when I was a newbie though. However, you'll also get the delay when logging in.

[surfer43]

Just to confirm this only happens with newbie accounts right? I don't seem to have the problem

Newbies only get the 360 delay, but it decreases with the more activity you get. I think Full Members is ten seconds or something, but you're unlikely to notice it unless you can write another post in that amount of time.

Can confirm:

The last posting from your IP was less than 10 seconds ago. Please try again later.

[apsvinet]

Just to confirm this only happens with newbie accounts right? I don't seem to have the problem

Newbies only get the 360 delay, but it decreases with the more activity you get. I think Full Members is ten seconds or something, but you're unlikely to notice it unless you can write another post in that amount of time.

Can confirm:

The last posting from your IP was less than 10 seconds ago. Please try again later.

26 seconds for me. Only seen that message once though, while commenting quickly in one thread.