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October 24, 2023, 11:12:39 PM
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well, is totally different to see a streamer playing with $1k than a streamer playing with $9M... And that is why these streams are that attractive to users, because is crazy to see guys playing $50k hands on blackjack, or doing $100k bonus buys, is just a high-quality bait.

But i wouldn't say is fake money, streamers have a roll-over, just like the depo bonus rules, if they can bet the starting balance X times, then they can keep the money. Each casino have it's own rules about this.
Every streamer has a different deal. Some have the rollover like you mentioned, some just have to stream for x hours and keep what's left, and some have to stream and get to keep 10% of the balance that's left. There are other deals out there as well, but they all depend on many factors. How many viewers you get in your stream on average, how many followers you have, how often you can/will stream, what sort of balance you want to play with, etc. All of this is considered before a casino will even offer you a deal, if certain numbers aren't there then a casino will not offer you a deal. You also have to have depositors if/when you get a deal. If people aren't making deposits under your code, you will lose your deal within 2 weeks. Casino has to be gaining something from you or there is no point in having you on their payroll.

If you are a streamer with a nice number of viewers( not from a viewbot as that's worthless)(min 50-100 average viewers) and have an active chat, I may be able to get you a deal. I would have to verify a few things before getting you in contact with my contact. Send me a pm or message on telegram @yahoo62278 and maybe I can help you out. Don't waste my time though, I'm not contacting anyone for you if you have a viewbotted channel. It's pretty easy to spot.
This is the most precise way on how things going  with this kind of set up specially on hiring up streamers on which it would really be generally be getting in line on what the casino wants or you would really be playing according into their rules and its up to you whether you would really be agreeing or not, just like been said that you would really be needing those qualifications before you would really be that be considered for you to get paid on your service. Of course they would really be that mindful on the money that they would really be spending.

Good elaboration basing up on the real experience you do have yahoo. It would really be definitely be under such conditions on which it is really just that always
be that showing  that you are really that eligible or capable on bring out deposits into their site which it is really that understandable.

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October 24, 2023, 11:41:48 PM
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What do you guys expect anyways, streamers are businesses men and they get paid for doing what they are doing and at that, we have to carry out our own independent research about the casinos or games that they promote to be able to picture our the real deal in it aside from the many fancy things that the influencer may try to flood our screen with.
At most, what you should take them for is just a point of research since they bring to our notice new things and leave for us to confirm their authenticity.

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October 25, 2023, 06:01:47 AM
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This is the most precise way on how things going  with this kind of set up specially on hiring up streamers on which it would really be generally be getting in line on what the casino wants or you would really be playing according into their rules and its up to you whether you would really be agreeing or not, just like been said that you would really be needing those qualifications before you would really be that be considered for you to get paid on your service. Of course they would really be that mindful on the money that they would really be spending.

Good elaboration basing up on the real experience you do have yahoo. It would really be definitely be under such conditions on which it is really just that always
be that showing  that you are really that eligible or capable on bring out deposits into their site which it is really that understandable.
Rules are everything when hiring streamers, especially in casinos. If you're on the casino stage, you better know your lines, right? Like being invited to a high-stakes poker game. You must know the game, players, and stakes. And if not? You're setting yourself up to lose.

Now, I've seen this and been around, and qualifications matter. Why shouldn't they desire the best? They demand a return on their large investment. If you want to do this, you better be the best, or try to be. Maybe you're not. This game may not be for you. If you are and follow their rules, the benefits might be huge. Tremendous!


If the casino hire streamers, they will also give them incentive and money to play with. Usually when a streamer is being offered to stream a casino, by the casino team, then they will fully fund him so that the streamers are able to play freely and the viewers enjoy the streams.

Yes, if there is no such deal with the casino, then the streamer will use their own money to gamble and at the same time live stream for their audience. In this case too, the streamers usually earn more money through stream and if they won anything while gambling too, that will be a bonus and additional money for them.

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October 25, 2023, 06:39:05 AM
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I don't know about this article what to think as we have some real streamers and some other guys trying to copy what they do,it is difficult to distinguish yet if you see streamers playing at popular casinos it means they are sponsored by them and as such I consider them true streamers while people playing on not at all well known platforms I consider them not true as my distinction between true and false streamers,this for me have worked well as when I want to see a true streamer I immediately see at which casino he is playing,if he is playing in really big well known casinos I watch him,if not I don't.

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October 25, 2023, 06:42:50 AM
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I am a type of person that do not believe something easily, streamers that are well known will be sponsored by game providers or betting sites, this is not an argument. Also a lot of things about this, like winning can much more be manipulated. In fact, I hardly watch anything related to streamers, they are there sponsored if they are well known, and some things will be just hidden about them.
Usually people who say what they are don't actually say it because the need for them to talk about it doesn't do them any favor or that it's not a testament that they are who they preach, they just do it and let people decide if they are that kind of person. Regarding those streamers, these problem has been going on for so long and it seems to me that there's no cure to this besides streamers actually declining the deal with this casinos but given how lucrative the deals are, it's unlikely that they would decline it not to mention that up and coming streamers are caught off guard by this so they just accept it because what they have to do is easy and you really can't blame the casinos doing these scummy thing though, they have a business to run and no matter how you look at it, they're just trying to make their casinos as attractie to those viewers as much as possible even if it means they have to lie.
What do you guys expect anyways, streamers are businesses men and they get paid for doing what they are doing and at that, we have to carry out our own independent research about the casinos or games that they promote to be able to picture our the real deal in it aside from the many fancy things that the influencer may try to flood our screen with.
At most, what you should take them for is just a point of research since they bring to our notice new things and leave for us to confirm their authenticity.
That doesn't mean that you can't have boundaries and morals, as an influencer that has thousands of viewers and you don't know a lot of them personally, it's your duty to be a role model to them because there's probably a child out there that's watching you and you're streaming gambling stuff.
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October 25, 2023, 09:01:23 AM
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I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed
Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

The article is clearly written by a person who are coming from a specific casino (ltccasino) and what is written in the article is about some specific streamers (Drake, Roshtein and even Eddie who is known as the founder of Stake) who are working/being paid/affiliated by specific casino (Stake). I think article is not merely written to educate people but it is more about a casino that want to make people to think negatively about the competitor. I can be wrong, just a wild guess but it is a bit strange because the example given in article is like targeted to one specific casino only while there are some other casinos that are promoted with similar way (by streamers).

But the title is misleading just to get a click.  These people are not fake casino streamer but rather sponsored by the casino to play and stream.  There is a huge difference between a fake casino streamer and being sponsored.  Whether with real money or sponsored money, these people can't be considered as fake casino streamers because the casino they representing are legit, the stream are legit, it is that the fund is sponsored by the casino.  Which of these scenario shouts a fake casino streamer? Unless the claim that they use their own money for gambling, and yet they are sponsored by the casino then they are lying.

They are hired to bring entertainment to audience while showcasing the casino services.  So these people are streaming to advertise the casino while bringing entertainment to the people.  I do not think that using the casino sponsored money should be the case here to tell that the streamers are fake.

There is no other reason to make the title like that except to make readers focus on the word "fake". This way will make people think negatively on their first sight after reading the title, then most people will think negatively to read the other parts especially when the article mention a name of streamer or casino. For me, it is like an effort by ltccasino as competitor to make people think bad about stake in a hope that old stake players or new potential players will notice about it. Of course it is my assumption only.
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October 25, 2023, 09:24:55 AM
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I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed
Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

The article is clearly written by a person who are coming from a specific casino (ltccasino) and what is written in the article is about some specific streamers (Drake, Roshtein and even Eddie who is known as the founder of Stake) who are working/being paid/affiliated by specific casino (Stake). I think article is not merely written to educate people but it is more about a casino that want to make people to think negatively about the competitor. I can be wrong, just a wild guess but it is a bit strange because the example given in article is like targeted to one specific casino only while there are some other casinos that are promoted with similar way (by streamers).

But the title is misleading just to get a click.  These people are not fake casino streamer but rather sponsored by the casino to play and stream.  There is a huge difference between a fake casino streamer and being sponsored.  Whether with real money or sponsored money, these people can't be considered as fake casino streamers because the casino they representing are legit, the stream are legit, it is that the fund is sponsored by the casino.  Which of these scenario shouts a fake casino streamer? Unless the claim that they use their own money for gambling, and yet they are sponsored by the casino then they are lying.

They are hired to bring entertainment to audience while showcasing the casino services.  So these people are streaming to advertise the casino while bringing entertainment to the people.  I do not think that using the casino sponsored money should be the case here to tell that the streamers are fake.


There is no other reason to make the title like that except to make readers focus on the word "fake". This way will make people think negatively on their first sight after reading the title, then most people will think negatively to read the other parts especially when the article mention a name of streamer or casino. For me, it is like an effort by ltccasino as competitor to make people think bad about stake in a hope that old stake players or new potential players will notice about it. Of course it is my assumption only.

Somehow we can expect them to throw some shade to their competitor since they just aim to destroy ones reputation for thinking that those existing costumers of stake will shift to play on their casino, but they forgot to know that those people who play on stake for long time is been solid already to their casino and no make up stories can change their minds unless there's something bad happen to the people operating that casino and stake cannot able to perform well.

Well its up for the people on what they take to those people who streamed their playing sessions on casino and most important for us is we never try to get hype by them then easily got influence on what are the information they want to spread. Knowing everything base on our own research is important so we would provably know what's real and what is fake.

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October 25, 2023, 11:46:09 AM
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Somehow we can expect them to throw some shade to their competitor since they just aim to destroy ones reputation for thinking that those existing costumers of stake will shift to play on their casino, but they forgot to know that those people who play on stake for long time is been solid already to their casino and no make up stories can change their minds unless there's something bad happen to the people operating that casino and stake cannot able to perform well.

Well its up for the people on what they take to those people who streamed their playing sessions on casino and most important for us is we never try to get hype by them then easily got influence on what are the information they want to spread. Knowing everything base on our own research is important so we would provably know what's real and what is fake.


Let's be honest, Stake casino doesn't have clear reputation. The theory in that article may be considered as a conspiracy, but we won't never know. For example, I still wonder, how Evolution inreases their profit by 20+% each Q or in YoY when avg RTP is 96% and they have to pay a tonn of employees.
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October 25, 2023, 01:24:41 PM
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I don't know about this article what to think as we have some real streamers and some other guys trying to copy what they do,it is difficult to distinguish yet if you see streamers playing at popular casinos it means they are sponsored by them and as such I consider them true streamers while people playing on not at all well known platforms I consider them not true as my distinction between true and false streamers,this for me have worked well as when I want to see a true streamer I immediately see at which casino he is playing,if he is playing in really big well known casinos I watch him,if not I don't.

That is the case; no streamer will promote or include a casino in their content unless they are compensated for it. That is where they generate money from advertisements and casino marketing since they know they can make a lot of money even if they do not gamble on the gambling site they will promote online.

Now, if there are phony streamers, we have no idea what their true goal is or why they engage in such deception. If claims like these are true,

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October 25, 2023, 01:31:50 PM
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They are probably popular because of the amount they are trying to spend on the casino and that's how they are going to make it seem like. Someone who wins a lot and bets a lot enough to make a career having to do gambling and streaming.

It's interesting to many because they want to watch someone fulfill their fillings in which they are "lucky" to win. They found backup to it or reinforcement or something. That could be the case.

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October 25, 2023, 02:07:10 PM
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I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.

I don't watch streamers on their full lives but I do read reviews from popular reviewers about streamers, the streamers, and the casinos need each other they bring in new players, and there's a big possibility that there are a lot of fake streamers because they will not use their own money just to promote the site, some of them do not even post their referral link to make it appear fair review but it's an open secret that it's part where they make money, apart from donations coming from their followers

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Firstly, they earn money through advertisements and sponsorships. Streaming platforms like Kick and YouTube offer advertising opportunities, and gambling companies may sponsor their streams.

Secondly, donations and tips from viewers are a big part of their income. Viewers can send virtual money or real money as a way to show support during live streams either through streaming platform channels, or directly to the streamer.

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October 25, 2023, 02:47:19 PM
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I will not say they are fake, they are real streamer who are affiliated or sponsored by casino.
Coming up to the balance they use when they are streaming, high possibility that it is sponsored money that cant be withdrawn.
Just a guess ofc because we never know about how it works when streamers are sponsored by casino or being paid by the casino as part of marketing strategies of the casino.
Why they are so popular? Because they are popular people already in the streaming world before starting to be paid by casinos.
Other reason is that most casino streamers provide givewaway everytime they are doing stream, that's why many people watch the stream.

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October 25, 2023, 03:18:34 PM
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I will not say they are fake, they are real streamer who are affiliated or sponsored by casino.
Coming up to the balance they use when they are streaming, high possibility that it is sponsored money that cant be withdrawn.
Just a guess ofc because we never know about how it works when streamers are sponsored by casino or being paid by the casino as part of marketing strategies of the casino.
Why they are so popular? Because they are popular people already in the streaming world before starting to be paid by casinos.
Other reason is that most casino streamers provide givewaway everytime they are doing stream, that's why many people watch the stream.

They are popular because of charisma + money (will you ever watch the guy with $200 dep and 0.40c bet?).

And the problem is that those money are fake. The worst thing is that they teach new gamblers on how to play - risk, do all in, instead of waiting patiently for a jackpot
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October 25, 2023, 03:32:33 PM
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They are probably popular because of the amount they are trying to spend on the casino and that's how they are going to make it seem like. Someone who wins a lot and bets a lot enough to make a career having to do gambling and streaming.

It's interesting to many because they want to watch someone fulfill their fillings in which they are "lucky" to win. They found backup to it or reinforcement or something. That could be the case.
Sometimes even the money or credits that the streamers are using in their streams are fake even the platform, where the odds is programmed to be in their side. I guess it's what viewers want to see, how the bank roll grow in the streamers hand. Until they try the casino and ended up losing. I've saw many streamers that is doing casino contents which is random for them since they are not typically playing casino games and they are absolutely killing it by winning big time, this is one of the clues that they are paid/fake casino streamers.

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Many social media platforms are now flooded with live online casino streams. The strategy of these influencers is first to lose a bit of money and then suddenly win a large sum. This helps them attract new gamblers to try these online casinos. However, it is unclear whether these online casinos are scripted, as these scenarios seem to play out similarly every time. I'm against it because some of their viewers are still minors. What if those minors bet their allowances? And still, some children are too young to understand the risk of betting. Juveniles are curious about the feeling of winning like their idols on social media, so they might copy those influencers and lose a significant amount of money.
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I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.

Isn't it obvious ? It's because of their popularity. Streamers get a lot of views for their streams and viewers get influenced by them and start betting on the casino sites.
Although we can't say that all such streamers use fake accounts but many of them do and get paid for influencing others.
It's best to bet within our limits and on the sites that we trust. We should keep trying casino sites with very small deposits and stick to 1 or 2.
As a business owner then it would really be just that normal that you would really be putting up focus into those known or popular influencers or streamers when it comes to marketing as much as possible knowing that exposure would really be that more wide if the said  streamer would really be that having that tons of followers on which it would really be just that so normal that they would really be that choosing those.
Speaking about  fake then i dont think that there would really be that becoming that big or popular because once that a certain streamer does have that kind of issue on something being that manipulative
then issues could really be thrown out and would really be affecting his popularity and reputation then which means that he cant really go into the peak in speaking about being that reputable.

This is why we us viewers then it would really be just that normal that you would really be that careful on whose streamer you would really be watching into.
Its impossible though that you wont really be noticing something if there's odd something happening.

Yes ofcourse, it all depends on the viewers whether they get attracted to the influencers or not.
I mean, a person can blindly follow an influencer while the other can do his due diligence and refer the influencer take the best out of his session.
But not everyone are like minded and most people fall for the high profits that those influencers get.

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Streamers (also the fake kind) are popular both with the casinos/sportsbooks as well as the viewership. They advertise a platform and its games, and play there with fake money or cash the casinos gave them. That's marketing. When they win, those watching their streams want to replicate their success and play there as well. That's the gambling mindset. If one person won, that means I could as well. The more gamblers are watching those streams, the greater the chance that some of them will sign up or continue playing at the advertised casinos looking for their next big win. 

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Many social media platforms are now flooded with live online casino streams. The strategy of these influencers is first to lose a bit of money and then suddenly win a large sum. This helps them attract new gamblers to try these online casinos. However, it is unclear whether these online casinos are scripted, as these scenarios seem to play out similarly every time. I'm against it because some of their viewers are still minors. What if those minors bet their allowances? And still, some children are too young to understand the risk of betting. Juveniles are curious about the feeling of winning like their idols on social media, so they might copy those influencers and lose a significant amount of money.

What social media platform you are referring that flooded gambling live stream because I don’t encounter them in anymore regular basis ever since Twitch ban gambling streaming recently.

Most the social media platform doesn’t allow gambling streaming as far as I know. I can only watch streamers content on youtube through their replay video. I’m not updated anymore on what platform they are currently using but gambling streaming is not that flooded anymore compared when pandemic hits and Twitch still allowed them to stream gambling content.

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 #99

Many social media platforms are now flooded with live online casino streams. The strategy of these influencers is first to lose a bit of money and then suddenly win a large sum. This helps them attract new gamblers to try these online casinos. However, it is unclear whether these online casinos are scripted, as these scenarios seem to play out similarly every time. I'm against it because some of their viewers are still minors. What if those minors bet their allowances? And still, some children are too young to understand the risk of betting. Juveniles are curious about the feeling of winning like their idols on social media, so they might copy those influencers and lose a significant amount of money.

What social media platform you are referring that flooded gambling live stream because I don’t encounter them in anymore regular basis ever since Twitch ban gambling streaming recently.

Most the social media platform doesn’t allow gambling streaming as far as I know. I can only watch streamers content on youtube through their replay video. I’m not updated anymore on what platform they are currently using but gambling streaming is not that flooded anymore compared when pandemic hits and Twitch still allowed them to stream gambling content.

Facebook and YouTube. It hasn't flooded like during the pandemic as some influencers have stopped this kind of scheme. However, some still advertise online casinos at the end of their videos, even though some of their viewers are minors. These platforms should remove such videos or place an age restriction on those containing online casino content to ensure the safety of their young viewers.
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October 25, 2023, 05:01:12 PM
 #100

These platforms should remove such videos or place an age restriction on those containing online casino content to ensure the safety of their young viewers.
Yeah. That isn't happening anytime soon because these are the same platforms that allow viewers of all ages to watch game streams where real money can be used for various benefits such as FIFA packs, CS skins etc.

Their families are the only ones who can make sure that they don't get obsessed with any of that stuff basically.

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