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Author Topic: Ratimov is deleting self-moderated topics. He now goes onto my Ignore list.  (Read 1534 times)
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October 26, 2023, 03:17:37 PM
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Since the appearance of your topic, I personally have deleted no more than 30 topics. Don't forget that the Russian section has two moderators. So no need to attribute to me what is not there (nepotism, etc).
For the record: I didn't blame you for deleting those shitposts Smiley

Yeah, I'm sorry. That wasn't meant for you.

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October 26, 2023, 03:27:48 PM
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Let's say he wants to fix the mistakes he made in the previous days, but what could be the reason for deleting others' posts from a self-moderated topic?

The con-job is this: he deletes posts until the topic becomes pure garbage, then he deletes also OP's content and moves the trash in his personal shithole, namely Russian board. And there, his personal garbageman helps him get rid of all plagiarism evidence.

Hm. This is getting interesting. But if he wants to fix his mistakes, it's okay. However, he didn't really need to delete those topics since moderators already give him a pass and no ban for the thing he did. About mods helping him to delete these things, I guess he is tricking mods to do their job. He is deleting everything first and then making it like a spam post that is needed to delete. So, I am not sure if I can blame the mods about it.

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October 26, 2023, 03:34:40 PM
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I think we all understand that, in principle, one can with one's self-moderated thread do what one wants, but to suddenly delete many where there has been significant discussion and quite a lot of merit, just smells bad. Like wanting to erase evidence, as has been commented.

I wondered in the previous comment to this thread if Ratimov was going to come here to explain himself but it doesn't look like it at this point. Not the behaviour one would expect from someone who is 100 most trusted, 4 most merited etc according to bpip.org.

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October 26, 2023, 06:22:02 PM
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Well, I agree with others. There is no reason for a self moderate topic to exist. I think this feature should just be removed. No one, except a moderator, should be able to delete someone else posts.
Disagree completely with you. Just because one idiot misuse great feature, it doesn't means that we should get rid of it. I think that forum without self-moderated topics would be much worse place than we have now.

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October 26, 2023, 09:27:08 PM
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Well, I agree with others. There is no reason for a self moderate topic to exist. I think this feature should just be removed. No one, except a moderator, should be able to delete someone else posts.
Disagree completely with you. Just because one idiot misuse great feature, it doesn't means that we should get rid of it. I think that forum without self-moderated topics would be much worse place than we have now.
Self-moderated thread is a forum feature, there is nothing wrong with it. This is itself is a self-moderated topic and I don't have any problem contributing in this thread but if this thread was from JollyGood then I would think more than once before posting because I know he will find a way to delete my post. Just because someone is using a feature for their own benefit and making it look bad, it does not mean the feature is bad.

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October 26, 2023, 09:58:17 PM
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Hm. This is getting interesting. But if he wants to fix his mistakes, it's okay. However, he didn't really need to delete those topics since moderators already give him a pass and no ban for the thing he did. About mods helping him to delete these things, I guess he is tricking mods to do their job. He is deleting everything first and then making it like a spam post that is needed to delete. So, I am not sure if I can blame the mods about it.

Now I am sure that he had no intention of fixing things because of his mistake. If he ever said that he wanted to fix things, he only did it for his benefit. At some point, he offered a "truce", apologized to the community and GazetaBitcoin for the offensive words, and withdrew his feedback given to Gazeta.
We can only guess why he deleted that post https://ninjastic.space/post/63041115
However, immediately after Gazeta wrote that he would not withdraw his feedbacks, there was instant revenge and neg tagging again. If you want to sincerely apologize or forgive someone, it must be unconditional.

I saw revenge feedback on BitcoinGirl.Club added later  Embarrassed That's not how things get fixed.

There is no reason for a self moderate topic to exist. I think this feature should just be removed. No one, except a moderator, should be able to delete someone else posts.

Oh, this feature is needed. The thing is in the way of use, like anything else. If two kids stab each other with pencils, it doesn't mean that pencils are unnecessary and only bring bad things.

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Hm. This is getting interesting. But if he wants to fix his mistakes, it's okay. However, he didn't really need to delete those topics since moderators already give him a pass and no ban for the thing he did. About mods helping him to delete these things, I guess he is tricking mods to do their job. He is deleting everything first and then making it like a spam post that is needed to delete. So, I am not sure if I can blame the mods about it.

Now I am sure that he had no intention of fixing things because of his mistake. If he ever said that he wanted to fix things, he only did it for his benefit. At some point, he offered a "truce", apologized to the community and GazetaBitcoin for the offensive words, and withdrew his feedback given to Gazeta.
We can only guess why he deleted that post https://ninjastic.space/post/63041115
However, immediately after Gazeta wrote that he would not withdraw his feedbacks, there was instant revenge and neg tagging again. If you want to sincerely apologize or forgive someone, it must be unconditional.

But his offer was not unconditional which you can see already. He wants peace for sure but only after he realizes that this is not going well for him. I was a spectator of the AOBT thread where I felt he was trolling Gazeta. He removed Gazeta's post in Quotes and inserted an image to insult Gazeta. We are so brave on the internet. We can say whatever we want. But most of us won't be able to say these things in person.

I saw revenge feedback on BitcoinGirl.Club added later  Embarrassed That's not how things get fixed.
The color is not red BTW. Things get fixed with mutual understanding. Not sure how they fixed it but the recent drama gives it a flame again.

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Common LoyceV, you really didn't have to create another topic for Ratimov and about you ignoring him, it's not the first time that someone is deleting self-moderated topics  Roll Eyes
He was part of my ignore list before but I decided to remove him because I found some of his topics useful.

I find it utterly disrespectful to do this on a forum. It also means I never want to post in any of his self-moderated topics again
You are right now writing that in one more self-moderated topic  Cheesy

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Common LoyceV, you really didn't have to create another topic for Ratimov and about you ignoring him, it's not the first time that someone is deleting self-moderated topics  Roll Eyes
He was part of my ignore list before but I decided to remove him because I found some of his topics useful.
Isn't ignoring the same as excluding?

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Heads-up: Ratimov stopped deleting old posts with evidences of plagiarism. Probably he thinks he deleted all evidences.

At same time, he or one of his minions created an account named GazetaBitcoinSV, probably for making themselves even more ridiculous. The account was created yesterday and it was already tagged.



For the record: I didn't blame you for deleting those shitposts Smiley
Yeah, I'm sorry. That wasn't meant for you.

No, I did that. I understand that you, as mods, are supposed to keep the local board clean but this was a special case. I believe that in this case rushing to delete Ratimov's shitposts was a mistake, because people could see what he did. All those not knowing of ninjastic.space could see it. You could keep those posts for a while, at least. Which remembers me that you never answered to this post:

But you have a Mod board, in which you could report him to Mods with banning power. It's more than just deleting his own posts, it's moving garbage into your board. And that's a clear violation of the forum rules:
1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads.
He could easily have avoided all this by moving the topic to Archival, but he choose to throw his garbage topics on the board you moderate. This sets a precedent for using the board you moderate as a trashcan and by reporting his own posts there turns you into his personal trashman.

Why haven't you presented to other mods what he was doing? Thus maybe another mod would ban him for breaking (again and again) forum rules? You still did not explain that. And the fact that you shower each other in merits only makes you more suspicious. Maybe not in everybody's eyes but, certainly, some see this very suspicious (including me).



I wondered in the previous comment to this thread if Ratimov was going to come here to explain himself but it doesn't look like it at this point.

Well, what could he say? "I am sorry for abusing Trust system and all these users for so many years"...? "I am sorry for plagiarizing and stealing the work of all those authors and I am also sorry for misleading all the forum"...?


Not the behaviour one would expect from someone who is 100 most trusted, 4 most merited etc according to bpip.org.

Fourth most merited user? What a joke! What a joke! It's easy to become popular when you steal, right? Just as he did, for years in a row!
If you don't feel his behavior is adequate for a DT1 user, feel free to add him to your distrust list, as others did as well.



Now I am sure that he had no intention of fixing things because of his mistake. If he ever said that he wanted to fix things, he only did it for his benefit. At some point, he offered a "truce", apologized to the community and GazetaBitcoin for the offensive words, and withdrew his feedback given to Gazeta. [...]

If you want to sincerely apologize or forgive someone, it must be unconditional.

I saw revenge feedback on BitcoinGirl.Club added later  Embarrassed That's not how things get fixed.

If you feel that he is not using Trust system correctly, feel free to distrust him as well.



About mods helping him to delete these things, I guess he is tricking mods to do their job. He is deleting everything first and then making it like a spam post that is needed to delete.

This is crystal clear now.

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October 30, 2023, 06:04:05 PM
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Common LoyceV, you really didn't have to create another topic for Ratimov and about you ignoring him, it's not the first time that someone is deleting self-moderated topics  Roll Eyes
He was part of my ignore list before but I decided to remove him because I found some of his topics useful.
Isn't ignoring the same as excluding?

He's saying he used to put Ratimov on ignore, but later remove his name from his ignore list, "excluding" him from that list so his post are once again visible.

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I thought to leave this here too, for more visibility:

Other than that, it seems that Ratimov did not stop purging evidence of his plagiarism after the apparition of LV's topic and he also did not shy away anymore, as he usually did in the past when DT eyes were on him. This time his only reason to stop was a warning that he'll be banned.

He received a warning from me. I wrote to him about his behavior and that in case he continues such actions, he will get a ban. I did not receive a reply, but his trash topics did no longer appear after my warning. I hope for his discretion.

Ironic, the warning came from a mod which has no power to ban him, yet since the issue was escalated to theymos the warning was very serious and he understood that now he is not only fooling forum users around, as he did for 5 years in a row and this time he is actually risking to be banned. That being said I am very curious about what other frauds and ways to fool regular users & mods he will find. What's certain is that he is very ingenious at that.

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November 08, 2023, 03:24:02 PM
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Coming across this thread now, and I remembered that I also was affected by those thread he deleted back then, though just 2 of my posts on his thread was deleted (ones I got notification for, from the forum).



Though I wasnt affected that much since not very much of my posts were deleted, but I did was curious as to what lead him to doing such, even though I didn't give much attention to it.

I do not know though, but I just feel it's aren't so cool when a highly respected member engaged in deleting his or her own self moderated thread, as well also deleting post in the same thread which he or she initially accepted as worthy to stay in the thread.

Anyways, character they say is like a bag, we all have it, and have different stuffs in it.

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