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October 26, 2023, 12:10:06 PM
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Heck, platforms with 1000x leverage exists. While I obviously don't recommend it due to the risk, potential profit could be anything. You can even make 100% in a few hours if you actually do it correctly lol. The question is, will you actually be able to do it correctly? 90%+ of people won't be able to.
Unfortunately, this is indeed the case. The absolute majority of traders will lose (immensely) money and valuable BTC on such platforms. Only a very small part will also be successful.

For me, trading with such leverage is no longer trading but pure gambling. You could also put the money in the casino, there is at least usually a good buffet. For newcomers to the market, possible profits with x1000 leverage sound of course very tempting, but unfortunately most overlook the fact that you can be bankrupt very quickly - or refuse to believe it.

Of the many traders I think there must be some who will try to make a bigger profit by taking a very large risk, but with all the chances of loss there are basically very few of them ending up with success, it is very difficult and even almost impossible to do that with the very significant pressure of the risk.

Well yes I quite agree with your assumption, it is nothing more and can be said to be the same as gambling where you will really be able to end up according to expectations when pure luck is on your side. Of course, especially for those beginners who have just come, the profit with a leverage level of x1000 is very large and it is really tempting, it is difficult to refuse such a large profit but consideration is needed here, do not let you or them end up with painful regret by allocating all your money to x1000 leverage. The risk is not only bankrupt quickly but maybe mental and psychological effects I think are very likely to occur in such conditions. So the bottom line in my opinion is that it is better for you to trade according to your ability, I understand that high leverage will be able to increase your profits but that will happen if luck is really on your side, and it is best that you walk with the ability and level of risk that you can be responsible for.
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October 26, 2023, 12:15:50 PM
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It's nice been a long time that since I've been called a noob.

The whole point of asking questions is to learn and ask anyone who has success they needed to start somewhere and failures are just stepping stones to move forward.

I do thank you for your advise.
Failures and losses had come first before we learn how really trading life is. Yes, I thought before when I began trading I could earn instantly but sadly, the opposite thing happened. I began to wonder and keep searching online and watching YouTube looking for ideas that could help improve my trading journey.
Losses and failures seem to be a reason why we should have to learn more and not just be confident about learning the basics but instead, try to work more. Our experience will be teaching us what are the things needed for us to improve and what are the things that we need to stop.

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October 26, 2023, 01:31:42 PM
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1. Is it possible to make 1% on a trade within a short time frame as in a few hours or a day ? Would that also inturn mean that you would make 10% on futures with a 10x leverage? I would like to elaborate more on this i just simply dont know where to begin. It would be nice if i could have a conversation with someone who has experience on the matter.
Of course, you can make way more than 1% of your capital in a few hours or a day, but you should know that the higher your money the higher your gain, and the higher your risk/leverage used, the higher the possibility you may lose or gain more. It's no news, I've made over 300% of my capital in FX trading in a day. This though depends on the market condition, and I believe such could be replicated in crypto as well.

In Bitcoin trading, using 10x leverage means you are risking somewhat moderately, and if the market is moderately volatile, you might find it easy to make your 1%. However, you have to be a good trader to earn in trading, you need a good trading strategy, management and plan. It's not as easy as you might think.

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2. In a normal trade when you buy a certain coin means there is someone else selling on the opposite end. does this rule apply the same for Futures ? Say im going to put in $1000 Long on coin X . does that mean it will only fill if there is someone Shorting the same coin at the same leverage at the same value of $1000?
Let me simplify this for you, in the market, take Bitcoin, for example, the market always looks like this, BTC/USD. The first which is BTC is the base, while the USD is the counter. What you do to BTC, you are actually doing the opposite to the USD. So, if you buy BTC, you are automatically selling the USD. While the liquidity pool is where you buy it from and sell it to.

You don't have to worry about that though, most markets are well-liquid. You don't have to worry about who to buy from you or who you would sell to, it's already present. The trading platform has made it easy, and the buyers and sellers are readily always available for you.

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October 26, 2023, 01:48:46 PM
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Well quite depends on the capital, if you have around 1k$ just for trading possible you can make a trade at at least 20 percent of it or just 10 for sure safe trade, and it depends on your position if you are going to isolated trade, just the capital you've put, or make a Cross trading which is just the percentage you want to trade and make hold with the remaining balance for your position. I make a trade for just 20 dollars as sure profit with my asset, and make a good trading plan until i reach up with the profit i want. Im not good in sell position most of my trades are in an uptrend.

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October 26, 2023, 01:49:37 PM
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1. Is it possible to make 1% on a trade within a short time frame as in a few hours or a day ? Would that also inturn mean that you would make 10% on futures with a 10x leverage? I would like to elaborate more on this i just simply dont know where to begin. It would be nice if i could have a conversation with someone who has experience on the matter.
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It is possible but just expect there are some days that are not good, so be careful, expect the unexpected. 1% profit in a day or hours is already good because if you sum it up and make it consistent you can be a profitable trade by just that.
So just focus and be consistent, proper risk management because expect that you will have some losses on some days.


Thank you sir. I will keep what you said in mind
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October 26, 2023, 01:53:43 PM
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I'm glad that you're thinking of 1% for short trades because that's really possible. Unlike the others that are asking unlikely percentage because of their greediness, it's just impossible for a short period of time.

Even if that's only 1%, the road for you to get on that point will still be rough. That's the life of a trader that every win you make is not easy but it's all worth it.



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October 26, 2023, 02:12:19 PM
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I'm glad that you're thinking of 1% for short trades because that's really possible. Unlike the others that are asking unlikely percentage because of their greediness, it's just impossible for a short period of time.

Even if that's only 1%, the road for you to get on that point will still be rough. That's the life of a trader that every win you make is not easy but it's all worth it.

1. Is it possible to make 1% on a trade within a short time frame as in a few hours or a day ? Would that also inturn mean that you would make 10% on futures with a 10x leverage? I would like to elaborate more on this i just simply dont know where to begin. It would be nice if i could have a conversation with someone who has experience on the matter.
Of course, you can make way more than 1% of your capital in a few hours or a day, but you should know that the higher your money the higher your gain, and the higher your risk/leverage used, the higher the possibility you may lose or gain more. It's no news, I've made over 300% of my capital in FX trading in a day. This though depends on the market condition, and I believe such could be replicated in crypto as well.

In Bitcoin trading, using 10x leverage means you are risking somewhat moderately, and if the market is moderately volatile, you might find it easy to make your 1%. However, you have to be a good trader to earn in trading, you need a good trading strategy, management and plan. It's not as easy as you might think.

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2. In a normal trade when you buy a certain coin means there is someone else selling on the opposite end. does this rule apply the same for Futures ? Say im going to put in $1000 Long on coin X . does that mean it will only fill if there is someone Shorting the same coin at the same leverage at the same value of $1000?
Let me simplify this for you, in the market, take Bitcoin, for example, the market always looks like this, BTC/USD. The first which is BTC is the base, while the USD is the counter. What you do to BTC, you are actually doing the opposite to the USD. So, if you buy BTC, you are automatically selling the USD. While the liquidity pool is where you buy it from and sell it to.

You don't have to worry about that though, most markets are well-liquid. You don't have to worry about who to buy from you or who you would sell to, it's already present. The trading platform has made it easy, and the buyers and sellers are readily always available for you.



1. Is it possible to make 1% on a trade within a short time frame as in a few hours or a day ? Would that also inturn mean that you would make 10% on futures with a 10x leverage? I would like to elaborate more on this i just simply dont know where to begin. It would be nice if i could have a conversation with someone who has experience on the matter.

In trading, there is a white day and a black day, meaning that you will make a profit on one day and a loss on the other day. The possibility of achieving 1% of profit per day may not be possible in the first days. You will achieve profits of 1% or more, and tomorrow you will achieve losses, and so on, and therefore you must try to make the average 1%.


2. In a normal trade when you buy a certain coin means there is someone else selling on the opposite end. does this rule apply the same for Futures ? Say im going to put in $1000 Long on coin X . does that mean it will only fill if there is someone Shorting the same coin at the same leverage at the same value of $1000?
Since you are a beginner, I do not advise you to use leverage, as spot trading futures contracts can earn you a profit of 1%. Try to maintain this percentage and learn more about trading.
Nothing is impossible when it comes to trading mate but what really matters is, are you a professional trader? You must know the trading strategy to use so that you can make such gain. It is advisable that newbies should learn the fundamental analysis and technical analysis in trading and you should trade when you don't understand the market. Holding bitcoin for a long term is easier and will be more profitable than trading.

Holding bitcoin for a long term is easier and will be more profitable than trading. You should only use the amount that you can afford to lose, when you want to have trading experience. A trader can't also make profit everyday.
It's nice been a long time that since I've been called a noob.

The whole point of asking questions is to learn and ask anyone who has success they needed to start somewhere and failures are just stepping stones to move forward.

I do thank you for your advise.
Failures and losses had come first before we learn how really trading life is. Yes, I thought before when I began trading I could earn instantly but sadly, the opposite thing happened. I began to wonder and keep searching online and watching YouTube looking for ideas that could help improve my trading journey.
Losses and failures seem to be a reason why we should have to learn more and not just be confident about learning the basics but instead, try to work more. Our experience will be teaching us what are the things needed for us to improve and what are the things that we need to stop.

Okay after reading all the posts and replies . I think i may have phrased my question incorrectly.

I would like to clarify that i am not here seeking instant profits or huge profits for that matter or even said that it was an easy task. The reason im asking is to determine whether i want to take a step forward in the direction of learning trading.

Lets say you have 5 years of trading experience and knowledge with you of fundamentals and technical analysis . Would you think its possible to earn 1% a day in futures. So that would be 0.1% movement into 10x.
at the same time i do understand despite having all the knowledge and experience . Its not always going to be your day and i can agree to this as long as the strategy has an overall profit lets say out of 10 you get 6-7 that are fruitful thats good.

I think doing 1% trades are already insane in my books doing this trade 100 times would 2x my capital.I want to learn if someone would tell me hell yea its definitely possible . i do have the patience for it.

As for the futures question of the liquidity pool. the reason i ask cause it was a bit confusing to me. I could long lev 2x 5 million dollars and the thing would fill on any coin?

despite everything i want to thank everyone who did reply. Cheesy Peace and goodluck to everyone


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1. Is it possible to make 1% on a trade within a short time frame as in a few hours or a day ? Would that also inturn mean that you would make 10% on futures with a 10x leverage? I would like to elaborate more on this i just simply dont know where to begin. It would be nice if i could have a conversation with someone who has experience on the matter.
Of course, you can make way more than 1% of your capital in a few hours or a day, but you should know that the higher your money the higher your gain, and the higher your risk/leverage used, the higher the possibility you may lose or gain more. It's no news, I've made over 300% of my capital in FX trading in a day. This though depends on the market condition, and I believe such could be replicated in crypto as well.

In Bitcoin trading, using 10x leverage means you are risking somewhat moderately, and if the market is moderately volatile, you might find it easy to make your 1%. However, you have to be a good trader to earn in trading, you need a good trading strategy, management and plan. It's not as easy as you might think.
People do not realize the volatility of the income, that's the issue. Everyone can make 3x of their money in a day if they are lucky, but if they are unlucky they could lose 100% of their money as well and it is not that impossible. We need to realize that it is not going to be all that confusing to have something like this and we should be trying to do our best to avoid these type of mistakes.

I realize that we are going to make some money and lose some money and on average try to do our best. If we are asking 1% a day, that would be a lot in a year, and I hope that we could, and with a bull run coming around the corner thanks to halving then maybe it would be possible, but it is not common and it is definitely not something easy to do.

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Yes it's possible to make profit of 1% in a day, provided you know what you are doing and knows the signals when to buy/sell else it would be difficult and one can end up losing. Initially stay away from the future trading and don't even think of it I still consider it as a gamble where more than 80% of trader lose money in greedy of quick and hefty profits.









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October 26, 2023, 08:26:52 PM
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Heck, platforms with 1000x leverage exists. While I obviously don't recommend it due to the risk, potential profit could be anything. You can even make 100% in a few hours if you actually do it correctly lol. The question is, will you actually be able to do it correctly? 90%+ of people won't be able to.
Heck, 1000x leverage will trigger liquidation after a few seconds or minutes.

With 1000x leverage, if price goes against your position like 0.01%, your position will be forced liquidated or even with smaller change than that, forced liquidation already knocks your doors.

90%+ people won't be able to do leverage trading correctly is still an optimistic number for trading gamblers. Because I am sure the failed rate from trading gamblers definitely is more than 90%, like 95% or more.
How about 98% fail rate for this one? Imagine that even putting on 125x leverage then those small movements could really give out some impact already and since we are talking about 1000x then even with the slightest could neither give out extreme profit or would really be just be your end because of being liquidated. This is why its never been recommendable on making out such leverage specially if you dont know
or arent even sure on what you are doing. You cant really be just that diving in into those things without having knowing the extreme risks that you would really be gonna faced.

Its true that getting 100% in a day is plausible but if you are really just that simply dealing with spot then you would really be needing to be that too good on making some daytrade or scalping
towards movement. A coin could possibly that move 1-3% in a day but there are moments on which it is really just that moving sideways on which it would really be causing for it to be that so
hard on making up position and this what makes really that things to be that totally unpredictable and would really be boggling up yourself on what you should gonna do.

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I dont know where to begin and i have tried looking for someone to talk to regarding this. its really silly questions. Im going to just put it out here. hopefully someone can give me some clarity.


1. Is it possible to make 1% on a trade within a short time frame as in a few hours or a day ? Would that also inturn mean that you would make 10% on futures with a 10x leverage? I would like to elaborate more on this i just simply dont know where to begin. It would be nice if i could have a conversation with someone who has experience on the matter.

2. In a normal trade when you buy a certain coin means there is someone else selling on the opposite end. does this rule apply the same for Futures ? Say im going to put in $1000 Long on coin X . does that mean it will only fill if there is someone Shorting the same coin at the same leverage at the same value of $1000?

Sometimes it's possible to achieve it within a few hours daily, but don't expect it all the time or everyday. There are no promises or guarantees here because the price movement is very unpredictable for any cryptocurrency that is subject to high volatility like Bitcoin, Ethereum, etc.

Futures trading is pretty much riskier than spot trading. You cannot outsmart the market despite you're very skillful and knowledgeable in terms of technical analysis, predictions, scenarios and more.

How we all wish that we could make at least 1% of our trades consistently, but it's not gonna be possible daily. There are days where it's going to be bullish, bearish or kangarooish (trading sideways). No astronomical guaranteed returns whatsoever and you should fully acknowledge these kinds of risks in the crypto trading space.

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October 26, 2023, 10:23:34 PM
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Yes it's possible to make profit of 1% in a day, provided you know what you are doing and knows the signals when to buy/sell else it would be difficult and one can end up losing. Initially stay away from the future trading and don't even think of it I still consider it as a gamble where more than 80% of trader lose money in greedy of quick and hefty profits.
If you don't have a strategy, 1% profit in a day is impossible. The market does not always go as we would like. That is why, even if we merely trade on the spot market, we need have a trading strategy. The market fluctuates based on their volatility. Because Bitcoin has the lowest volatility of any cryptocurrency, it is best to concentrate on it.

Since I feel that gaining 1% per day without a strategy is difficult, yet you did it and are consistently gaining 1% per day, I'm confident that futures trading is beneficial to you. You can change the leverage to what you prefer, but always use risk management to avoid huge losses and for the long-term survival of your account.
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I dont know where to begin and i have tried looking for someone to talk to regarding this. its really silly questions. Im going to just put it out here. hopefully someone can give me some clarity.
It may be that someone can trade a particular coin to make a profit like you are talking with using more experienced skills or it could be the other way around as the market is quite volatile for a particular coin. Ideally no one can guarantee regular 1% returns in fast trading because talking about trading laws there is no certainty regarding the price of the coins being traded. The level of astuteness and market analysis skills for a particular coin may lead you or anyone else to make a profit of 1% or more and that is why trading is much more difficult for many people if they do not have the skills.

The process definitely runs at the buying and selling level and this opposite side is something that applies to every trade we carry out. Although sometimes the process is different and at certain stages determining a profile in trading will really depend on one's abilities. I only understand at an ordinary level because I am not one of those people who have good trading skills and I also often experienced losses when I first started trading.

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Yes it's possible to make profit of 1% in a day, provided you know what you are doing and knows the signals when to buy/sell else it would be difficult and one can end up losing. Initially stay away from the future trading and don't even think of it I still consider it as a gamble where more than 80% of trader lose money in greedy of quick and hefty profits.
Making 1% every day from the market is a very achievable target; all we need is an effective strategy for approaching the market, whether in a bear or bull season. On second thinking, we should be exceedingly cautious when dealing with the market; there are quite a bit to deal with, and things frequently combust out of proportion. While establishing initiatives, we should also consider other possibilities because the market is chock-full of surprises, our entries might not get triggered, we expect fantastic outcomes but should also expect disappointing results. The market is characterized by significant volatility.

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I dont know where to begin and i have tried looking for someone to talk to regarding this. its really silly questions. Im going to just put it out here. hopefully someone can give me some clarity.



You don't know where to start, which means you are newbie to the market. The more interesting thing I want to tell you is that I wonder why newbies without knowledge or experience always choose the hardest way to make money on the market. Can I ask what made you choose to trade futures in the first place?

My advice, you should stop learning about futures trading, it is not suitable for newbies. Your participation in futures trading will only bring one result: you will definitely lose money. You should cultivate and improve your knowledge and holding is what you should start with, not futures trading. There is no method or means to help us make money easily, especially in the financial market.

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I dont know where to begin and i have tried looking for someone to talk to regarding this. its really silly questions. Im going to just put it out here. hopefully someone can give me some clarity.

Relax brother, when you are in a journey and you miss the road, don't hesitate to ask questions for directions else you will be stuck on the wrong direction forever. Not a bad thing if you ask about what you don't understand.

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1. Is it possible to make 1% on a trade within a short time frame as in a few hours or a day ? Would that also inturn mean that you would make 10% on futures with a 10x leverage? I would like to elaborate more on this i just simply dont know where to begin. It would be nice if i could have a conversation with someone who has experience on the matter.

You are obviously chasing the profit without duly understanding trading. My first question to is this, are really good in setting up a trade? The second is are you good in spot trading. I will assume that you are good in spot, but if you are not good, learn to do that before you even think of futures trading, it will fastly liquidate your capital than the profit you are asking.

To your main question, profit from trading really depend on how liquid and volatile the market is,if you want to trade BTC for example, there are days that it can consolidate on the same price for a week, that means you will not be making a lot but when there is high volatility, you will likely make more than 1%.

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2. In a normal trade when you buy a certain coin means there is someone else selling on the opposite end. does this rule apply the same for Futures ? Say im going to put in $1000 Long on coin X . does that mean it will only fill if there is someone Shorting the same coin at the same leverage at the same value of $1000?

This question indicates that you don't understand futures trading. When you long a position in futures like $1000, your order will be on the orderbook until another trader short on your similar position, it's just like bet. When you long and the market goes up, the person that short will be paying your from his position, your PNL will be increasing and when the other trader that short the market will be having negative PNL, it will remain that way if the market continues until a point of liquidation will be reach and all will be loss to the traders that long position and Vice versa, that's how futures works. It's more like betting on future price of a trade.

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October 27, 2023, 01:10:52 PM
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I dont know where to begin and i have tried looking for someone to talk to regarding this. its really silly questions. Im going to just put it out here. hopefully someone can give me some clarity.


1. Is it possible to make 1% on a trade within a short time frame as in a few hours or a day ? Would that also inturn mean that you would make 10% on futures with a 10x leverage? I would like to elaborate more on this i just simply dont know where to begin. It would be nice if i could have a conversation with someone who has experience on the matter.

2. In a normal trade when you buy a certain coin means there is someone else selling on the opposite end. does this rule apply the same for Futures ? Say im going to put in $1000 Long on coin X . does that mean it will only fill if there is someone Shorting the same coin at the same leverage at the same value of $1000?
Looks possible with earn 1% in trading with short time frame depend with your entry on the right moment, actually not difficult with 1% profitable in short moment exactly when bitcoin or altcoin in up and down trend. For future trading, if you can't understand yet with rule and not have well knowledge better not try with this kinds of trading regarding how much fund do you use for future. Keep focus with spot trading and your ability as short term trade have large chance to earn 1% to 5% in daily day with short term trade.

For beginner in cryptocurrency trading, not good ideas have to try with future and focus only how to build up as much profitable with spot although slowly progress. After understand and more experienced in spot trading then you can try with small fund in future trading and looks which one more benefit both kinds of trading.

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October 27, 2023, 02:01:03 PM
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Failures and losses had come first before we learn how really trading life is. Yes, I thought before when I began trading I could earn instantly but sadly, the opposite thing happened. I began to wonder and keep searching online and watching YouTube looking for ideas that could help improve my trading journey.
Losses and failures seem to be a reason why we should have to learn more and not just be confident about learning the basics but instead, try to work more. Our experience will be teaching us what are the things needed for us to improve and what are the things that we need to stop.
Even though we can learn from others and we can practice, we will still do trading in our own and we will use a real money. Losses and failures can come here. Trading is not as simple as it sounds or as we see on our timeline because what we can sometimes see are only the final result.

We only got amazed and rush. That is the time we realize that we are wrong or maybe we can say that we got fooled, but it was actually our fault too. Apart from losses and failures, the reason why we need to learn more is to be able to grow or improve more as a trader. I guess you guys already know what that means or what are its benefits.

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October 27, 2023, 02:07:17 PM
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1. Is it possible to make 1% on a trade within a short time frame as in a few hours or a day ? Would that also inturn mean that you would make 10% on futures with a 10x leverage? I would like to elaborate more on this i just simply dont know where to begin. It would be nice if i could have a conversation with someone who has experience on the matter.
1% profit in one day is not a phenomenon it is very easy and possible. you can profit 1% of your trading budget in one day from spot without using Future. But if you use future trading then it will not take time for you to lose 100% while gaining 1%.  Future trading is very risky it can make your fund zero within a moment.

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2. In a normal trade when you buy a certain coin means there is someone else selling on the opposite end. does this rule apply the same for Futures ? Say im going to put in $1000 Long on coin X . does that mean it will only fill if there is someone Shorting the same coin at the same leverage at the same value of $1000?
Whether you take short entry or long entry for future trading, you will get all the same facilities in the field of leverage. Future trading behaves like a gamble. If you take a short or long entry, if the price goes towards your target, then you can profit, otherwise you will lose.

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October 27, 2023, 02:22:28 PM
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I dont know where to begin and i have tried looking for someone to talk to regarding this. its really silly questions. Im going to just put it out here. hopefully someone can give me some clarity.


1. Is it possible to make 1% on a trade within a short time frame as in a few hours or a day ? Would that also inturn mean that you would make 10% on futures with a 10x leverage? I would like to elaborate more on this i just simply dont know where to begin. It would be nice if i could have a conversation with someone who has experience on the matter.

2. In a normal trade when you buy a certain coin means there is someone else selling on the opposite end. does this rule apply the same for Futures ? Say im going to put in $1000 Long on coin X . does that mean it will only fill if there is someone Shorting the same coin at the same leverage at the same value of $1000?

Well, honestly speaking, according to my experience with the 30$ capital amount throughout the day if the movement in the market is not that aggressive, that amount only grows, it plays between 1$-10$ it is if the time your frame is in 1hr.

And it also depends on the coins you will do trading activity. But if you do this with bitcoin, if you have a deep understanding of trading with that amount, it is also possible to play for 2$-5$ unless there is suddenly positive news about crypto.



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