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October 29, 2023, 11:08:38 AM
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I think it is just a troll that are creating things like this to get attention, because he or she knows Christians and other religions do not want people to gamble. Some people just like to be controversial or they are just poking and making fun of religious people.  Roll Eyes

You see these guys in the casino chat channels, using God's name in vain or saying things controversial to get some reaction from the religious people....  Roll Eyes  .... the best thing will be to ignore them, because they get a kick out of it.... when you do react.  Roll Eyes

As we simply put it this way, religion has nothing to do with the outcome of your gambling.
But it is fine to have some personal beliefs applied to when you bet, but better keep it to yourself.
Maybe, we only need respect when it comes to these beliefs and just let people believe what they want.
As long as you are not making trouble to anyone, I guess, it is fine to practice such beliefs.
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October 29, 2023, 11:41:33 AM
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I believe betting is not scriptural with such knowledge I know that God does not permit it, I have heard from so many people that a game was given to them in the dream to place a bet and most time they try it, it came out successfully, I have also seen people praying to God for him to make their bet a successful one and I can't say he wont answer their prayers because I remember the scripture that's says I will have compassion to whom I will have compassion, that's to say that God can favour people through different means unknowingly to them.
The way of man is not the way of God, he has way of ding his things, to me I will advice we abolish religious mindset in gamble.

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October 29, 2023, 12:18:31 PM
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For better understanding, let me first explain the picture above
From the picture above, we can tell that the person who did this is a gambler, and he or she is also a Christian who probably believes God can actually help him or her win big in betting, so the different Bible apps which he or she put around the sportybet app in the middle mean two things for me.
Whoever taught him or advised him to do that or even him is not aware that you cannot serve two masters he will serve one and despise the other and because he is gambling he just uses his being a Christian to justify what he is doing, he should be guilty on what he is doing because if God will give him a sign he will ask her to choose between the two, be a Christian and totally stop gambling


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Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?

We should not involve God in our gambling activity because if we do we will keep playing God because there are more losses than wins, somebody should do a sermon to this guy that he should not involve God in his vice, win or lose God has nothing to do with it.

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October 29, 2023, 03:39:06 PM
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I believe betting is not scriptural with such knowledge I know that God does not permit it, I have heard from so many people that a game was given to them in the dream to place a bet and most time they try it, it came out successfully, I have also seen people praying to God for him to make their bet a successful one and I can't say he wont answer their prayers because I remember the scripture that's says I will have compassion to whom I will have compassion, that's to say that God can favour people through different means unknowingly to them.
The way of man is not the way of God, he has way of ding his things, to me I will advice we abolish religious mindset in gamble.

Of course religious mindset should have nothing to do with gambling at all as they are two different things,two different ways of living life.In religion the person is fully surrendered to God and to His instructions and lives a normal life without many problems except some financial ones in most of the time and that is what most people do in their life.

When it comes to gamblers they live on the go not caring much about tomorrow and hoping to hit that big win that will change their life.This type of life is often not as calm as that of a believer and usually has lots of problems which in sometimes are extreme like ending in a suicide.

Based on this I would say spirituality,religion and believers have nothing to do in gambling.

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October 30, 2023, 07:14:46 PM
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To be fair not all spirituality is religion, there are also people who are not religious, but spiritual as well, they believe in being one with ones self, and that's a different type of mindset totally. Like all those people who meditate, they are spiritual, but that doesn't mean that you have to be religious to meditate, you can be an atheist and still meditate if you want to, they are not connected to each other. In any case, gambling could not really connect all that well if you ask me, it feels like it would be bad for your soul in the end if you are not careful and there are a lot of people who are gambling while trying to be spiritual and that doesn't usually work out that well in the end.

If you are that kind of person, just avoid it if you can and you should be doing fine in the end. I personally believe that the more you stay away from gambling or any other addiction, the better you can get in touch with yourself within and do better psychologically.

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October 30, 2023, 07:35:19 PM
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For better understanding, let me first explain the picture above
From the picture above, we can tell that the person who did this is a gambler, and he or she is also a Christian who probably believes God can actually help him or her win big in betting, so the different Bible apps which he or she put around the sportybet app in the middle mean two things for me.

1. He or she wants God to get involved in his or her betting and make him or her win  Grin.
2. Protection so that no evil will make him loss beta unnecessarily, since we Christians believe that the word of God protects, and we all know that the word of God is contained in the Bible.

Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?

I don't know what other people believe, but in my opinion, every win that occurs in gambling, not everything is pure luck, there are other factors that influence it, one of which is our belief and also our skills. every part that happens in your life, there is God who intervenes in it, so never take the small things that happen when you gamble lightly, humans do not live alone, there is always God who accompanies you when you are sad, angry, happy and so on.



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October 30, 2023, 07:57:49 PM
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Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?
When I was Little and my country football team is playing with another country's football team we used to call on the god of soccer to be on our side. I believe that they are different gods and there is a god of betting. But the funny thing is I do not know whose side he's on - the sportsbooks, the bettor, or the punter. Well, maybe he's just neutral like, an umpire.

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October 30, 2023, 11:59:08 PM
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I don't know what other people believe, but in my opinion, every win that occurs in gambling, not everything is pure luck, there are other factors that influence it, one of which is our belief and also our skills. every part that happens in your life, there is God who intervenes in it, so never take the small things that happen when you gamble lightly, humans do not live alone,

Chance based gambling games are based on probability.  Its result random and the bet or winnings is a merely coincidence if one does not believe on luck.  While games based on skill like prediction on sports betting and poker games relies more on skill, there is a bit luck on this but the skill takes the greater percentage to win the bet.

When it comes to luck religion like Christianity does not recognize the word since they are more keen on faith for blessings and grace.  With these, I believe that spirituallity and betting have no connection at all.  Even the power of the mind can't alter the result of gambling.

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October 31, 2023, 03:48:17 AM
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Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?
When I was Little and my country football team is playing with another country's football team we used to call on the god of soccer to be on our side. I believe that they are different gods and there is a god of betting. But the funny thing is I do not know whose side he's on - the sportsbooks, the bettor, or the punter. Well, maybe he's just neutral like, an umpire.

this makes me laugh at some point  Wink really there is a God for Soccer ?  did not hear this just now ., but of course
as a kid we have tons of stupidity in mind we even called trash cigarette housing as Play money when I was young so yours sounds a legit
child's play. and also made me smile asking whose side the God if for sportsbook or the bettor  Smiley  hope you did a successful prayer those time
that your Soccer God sided with your team .

For me (my belief and thought ) God does not interfere in something that does not represent His name and Gambling
as Illegal in most religion(of course not in their government for taxation) so His presence will not as their also , yet there are many people
I personally know that even praying for the whole week when they are going to cockfight Derby to be champion , also they are offering
foods and even Money un churches to favor them in those event, funny isn't?

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October 31, 2023, 03:13:30 PM
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I don't know what other people believe, but in my opinion, every win that occurs in gambling, not everything is pure luck, there are other factors that influence it, one of which is our belief and also our skills. every part that happens in your life, there is God who intervenes in it, so never take the small things that happen when you gamble lightly, humans do not live alone,
Chance based gambling games are based on probability.  Its result random and the bet or winnings is a merely coincidence if one does not believe on luck.  While games based on skill like prediction on sports betting and poker games relies more on skill, there is a bit luck on this but the skill takes the greater percentage to win the bet.

When it comes to luck religion like Christianity does not recognize the word since they are more keen on faith for blessings and grace.  With these, I believe that spirituallity and betting have no connection at all.  Even the power of the mind can't alter the result of gambling.
Indeed, there is God's intervention in everything, including gambling, so if we lose, it means God does not allow us to win because maybe that will make us forget to control ourselves. God also wants to remind us that gambling is just entertainment. We cannot use gambling as a place to make money because gambling is not like that. But sports betting can give you victory if you have good analytical skills, and maybe you will win in that gambling game.

But all the things we do are written up there, along with the results we will receive. We often cannot accept the results and instead try to recover the losses. If this is the case, we are just wasting our money because it will be difficult for us to recover the loss.

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October 31, 2023, 03:15:34 PM
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Well if you're like me you don't believe any god or any one certain god, so it doesn't have any sort of "play" in my decision to gamble or not.  Now I know a lot of religious people whom think gambling is a temptation from "the devil" but I think that's just peoples way of trying to justify why they don't like something in particular.

I'm not sure any god has ever said "though shall not gamble".

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October 31, 2023, 03:28:15 PM
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For better understanding, let me first explain the picture above
From the picture above, we can tell that the person who did this is a gambler, and he or she is also a Christian who probably believes God can actually help him or her win big in betting, so the different Bible apps which he or she put around the sportybet app in the middle mean two things for me.

1. He or she wants God to get involved in his or her betting and make him or her win  Grin.
2. Protection so that no evil will make him loss beta unnecessarily, since we Christians believe that the word of God protects, and we all know that the word of God is contained in the Bible.

Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?


Personally, I don't think that our spirituality has anything to do with our gambling habits. And our faith on God does not guarantee us a loss or a win. Because again, if we try to look back, gambling is all about luck. I don't think that God or any religious figures should be involved in our gambling habits as it can be seen as unethical or immoral by some. We all pray for a good bet at times, but I don't think that God himself should be associated or should be used on our gambling habits. Also, I don't think how much faithful or religious are we has any bearing on our wins. But again, this is just my opinion and my own perspective, and every opinion is welcome here.



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November 03, 2023, 02:08:56 AM
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Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?
When I was Little and my country football team is playing with another country's football team we used to call on the god of soccer to be on our side. I believe that they are different gods and there is a god of betting. But the funny thing is I do not know whose side he's on - the sportsbooks, the bettor, or the punter. Well, maybe he's just neutral like, an umpire.

this makes me laugh at some point  Wink really there is a God for Soccer ?  did not hear this just now ., but of course
as a kid we have tons of stupidity in mind we even called trash cigarette housing as Play money when I was young so yours sounds a legit
child's play. and also made me smile asking whose side the God if for sportsbook or the bettor  Smiley  hope you did a successful prayer those time
that your Soccer God sided with your team .

For me (my belief and thought ) God does not interfere in something that does not represent His name and Gambling
as Illegal in most religion(of course not in their government for taxation) so His presence will not as their also , yet there are many people
I personally know that even praying for the whole week when they are going to cockfight Derby to be champion , also they are offering
foods and even Money un churches to favor them in those event, funny isn't?

Well when it comes to things like betting and games, many can ask God to give them the opportunity to win, I am not a person who believes that there are gods for everything, I am one of those who think that God Heavenly Father exists and He is the one who can Manage and decide everything at his will, for this reason, an eprosn can lose help so that his team has the victory, but I think that is not decisive, because it is something that leads to free will, where God can give strength, intelligence , because people from both teams ask him to win, the situation is difficult , however some can use God for those things, perhaps to help, but there are so many things that are Pending to be done on behalf of him, that they are much bigger things , and that they do not have to do with games , with bets , with all those things that are in a very earthly plane, that is what I understand where it can go.

I respect everything that has to do with people who believe in different religions, in fact because of religions or because of religion or belief, that there is a war going on in Istrel and the Gaza Strip, something that I never agreed upon, the fact That wars are waged for religions is the only thing that I see as most absurd, it is something like politics, if they start to generate wars for politics it is what I see as most unnecessary, because in the end those who benefit are others and not the people for which they are fighting because of the politicians, that is why I say that these things are irrelevant to me, a religion does not feed you, a politician does not feed you, the fact that you want a Better life you have to work I work to have more money, and I consider that, so when it comes to betting to have a good result it is something that God cannot be partial to, according to what I know, God wants everyone to win, that there is never a loser , that is what I know that he wants an all-powerful being, where he Rejects all evil.


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November 03, 2023, 02:45:02 AM
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Think of it this way, people are scared of the unknown (xenophobia) and it's an innate instinct that we have no control of, an average person don't have the capacity to get into the unknown because they're scared of what they might find there that's why they are trying to find meaning in something that really don't have any because they want the assurance that what they're getting into is something worthwhile and that there's a higher purpose for it that's why we see people like this who try to be contradicting or even hypocritical to some, they want to create a meaning out of their losses or wins but mostly losses to either alleviate/ease or heighten what they're feeling at that time.



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November 03, 2023, 04:45:53 AM
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If you are a gambler and a religious person, especially a Christian, it is better for you not to be too religious, because it is clear that gambling is prohibited in the Bible. However, the sin of gambling is not as serious as adultery or murder, so if you are a Christian, use the money you earn from gambling for your enjoyment, don't use it for church offerings or use it for charity. And if you can, you should confess your sins during worship.
And also the spiritual connection and gambling have nothing to do with it. How can you ask for blessings from God when he forbids you to gamble? that doesn't make sense.

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My question to the OP is that what is the difference between Spirituality and Religion? Because I think there is a huge difference. In the Christian religion, betting is called a sin likewise in Islam as well as some other religions. Spirituality on the other hand is ones connection to their religious faith - the things they do and not do, they behaviours others. The connection between religion, spirituality, and betting is not the same across all religions. With the advent of new age religions, some are more liberal and some conservative. My personal opinion on this is that, if you are going to bet, do what you will with your religion if you think it is going to be of any help in the result of the bet. 

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By looking at this picture, I feel like I see someone showing off his stupidity and that's LOL...
And I just want to ask actually "which god does he worship" and what religion does he follow..? because clearly in the Bible there is a statement that "warns to abstain from loving money" where meanwhile, gambling is one of the activities that brings you closer to it (loving money). But apart from that, gambling is about the enjoyment of some people, so regardless of whether it is halal or haram, as long as you like gambling, go ahead and if you don't like it, don't ever gamble. And never mix it up with religion because religion clearly prohibits this.
Don't know bout you but for me I only find it normal. I think lots of people also have a similar habit. On your question if which god he worship, of course god lol. Are there any other god's? But if you mean about his religion, that must be Christian by basing on the bible he have.

Even without gambling, there are things that can make us closer to money, or it's already in the habit of some people. I wouldn't really blame them because let's faced it, money is very important. Almost everything that we do needs it. There are only religion that totally restricts it. So even if you say you are only playing for fun, I wouldn't advice to go against it.

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Indeed, there is God's intervention in everything, including gambling, so if we lose, it means God does not allow us to win because maybe that will make us forget to control ourselves. God also wants to remind us that gambling is just entertainment. We cannot use gambling as a place to make money because gambling is not like that. But sports betting can give you victory if you have good analytical skills, and maybe you will win in that gambling game.

But all the things we do are written up there, along with the results we will receive. We often cannot accept the results and instead try to recover the losses. If this is the case, we are just wasting our money because it will be difficult for us to recover the loss.
In reality, everything has to do with God, I mean, like we live in God hands, whether we are lucky or not is determined by God and our only obligation is to pray for the best and try and if we always fail at gambling, we will never get the same win or if you lose more often, it would be better to reconsider because legally you may not be destined to get big money from gambling but in other ways.

TBH, it actually a bit inappropriate to associate gambling with God because it a bit deviant for me but this just a discussion so its okay.

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For better understanding, let me first explain the picture above
From the picture above, we can tell that the person who did this is a gambler, and he or she is also a Christian who probably believes God can actually help him or her win big in betting, so the different Bible apps which he or she put around the sportybet app in the middle mean two things for me.

1. He or she wants God to get involved in his or her betting and make him or her win  Grin.
2. Protection so that no evil will make him loss beta unnecessarily, since we Christians believe that the word of God protects, and we all know that the word of God is contained in the Bible.

Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?
It actually has no sense of involving spiritual activities since we all know that gambling is an evil thing. Some people even perform witchcraft with gambling it is common here in my country wherein things draw significant critics on religious groups and communities. Some priests even bet on cockfights, lotteries and other gambling activities, I knew this because I was once part of the youth ministry. 😅 For me there is no guarantee that if you involve god with gambling you will have the best win, it still is a matter of luck.



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November 04, 2023, 12:31:25 PM
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I'm not sure any god has ever said "though shall not gamble".
The holy texts are written by mortal humans and they are ones where gambling or games of chance have been condemned.

It is a simple method to control the risk taking attitude of humans since their evolution and time on earth. It shows that even back in the past addiction to gambling was common and problems tend to encroach the religious leaders since there were less knowledge about the treatment of the same through professional help.

It all comes down to moderation which I have said in other threads. Be realistic about your games and dont get obsessed over it.

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