Bitcoin is a “safe haven asset”

[Blitzboy]

I have read some comments even not all and I will also say that bitcoin is not  risky asset compare to other valuable assets in the world. As others as said, those that have not gotten the full knowledge of bitcoin can say bitcoin is one of the risky asset. If you invest in the bull market then you are not expected to sell your coins in that period, you have to prepare yourself to face the bear market and in the next bull market you sell off your coins if it surpasses the previous price.

So in bitcoin, you are not losing and instead you all win. So what is the risk involved in it. I have seen big men and women in the forum saying that bitcoin is risky. How? Is it because of the bear market? Bitcoin investment is just a calculation and when calculate the mathematics well before investing in it, then I don't think you will loss anything.

It's impressive how you analyzed Bitcoin as a comparatively less hazardous asset. Notable in that it clarifies the significance of strategic investment and market timing. Investment is, in fact, a game of strategy, patience, and patience. a tactic that comprises holding during downturns and profiting during upswings.

Risk is a subjective concept that is often misinterpreted. Subjective in the sense that something that one person may see as dangerous could be a chance for another. Despite its track record of yielding significant profits, Bitcoin has frequently been regarded as dangerous because of its volatile price. fluctuations that can present a profitable opportunity if properly examined and comprehended. Gains, indeed, enormous gains if executed properly.

[Minecache]

As far as I know, safe haven means that the asset not only needs to meet profits but its safety needs to be guaranteed and in this case only gold can meet that requirement. With thousands of years of existence and recognition around the world, along with stability in value, gold is truly a safe haven. As for bitcoin, the asset that brings the highest profit but also has the highest risk, it does not meet the safety level. People just looking at its profitability and assuming it is a safe haven are incorrect, making that claim just because we are showing bias towards bitcoin.

Experiencing an increase when world economic conditions are not good has been proven by Bitcoin and Bitcoin prices can remain stable even though the world economy is deteriorating, but to maintain its value over a long period of time has not been proven so we cannot consider Bitcoin as a safe haven asset. .
Maybe everyone has different views, but personally for me only gold can be called a safe haven asset.

The level of profit on Bitcoin investment is quite large, so the risk will also be comparable. There is no investment that has the possibility of large profits but small risks, except investment in real estate, which is also risky and has a long time to make a profit.
I think all investments will be worth it with all the possibilities and risks.
So in that way I think Bitcoin is in a different position.

I think you're saying the opposite, in the long term bitcoin actually maintains and increases its value rather than in the short term with its volatility.

Yes, I still see some people considering bitcoin as a safe haven and they have their own reasons, so I agree with you that it depends on each person's perspective.

I don't rule out real estate, real estate may be the safest asset but it is not the most profitable asset even if you hold it for a long time. When compared in terms of returns, no asset can outperform bitcoin.

[Bitcoin_people]

Earlier when people first invested in gold many may have considered it as a risky asset, but gradually it has become the most popular and trusted asset to people for which its value is consistently high. I don't know if this has happened but I think it might happen when gold first hits the market. However, when Bitcoin first hit the market, many people thought it was a risky currency that could lead to loss of wealth. But gradually this perception of people has completely changed and people are now interested in investing a lot in Bitcoin. Because nowadays people invest in Bitcoin for the purpose of holding a large amount of money by taking loans from banks to employ in Bitcoin. Although many think it is a risky asset but I think it can be a bright asset in the future. Because we invest in Bitcoin and have a lot of faith in it, this Bitcoin can go to a better place in the future. I believe bitcoin will go to a point where people will be restless to buy bitcoin but not get much bitcoin phrase. As the days are progressing people are progressing economically and the world is becoming digital, so the virtual currency Bitcoin has also changed a lot and Bitcoin has become very popular in the world.

[livingfree]

If we talk about security, I agree that bitcoin is the safest asset to date because it cannot be hacked and bitcoin owners will have full ownership and management of their assets. But talking about safety, we need to evaluate many other factors and clearly bitcoin cannot be a safe haven like gold.

I think if it's about safety, we need to deal it ourselves. Like it lies within our hands and activities on how it is going to remain safe, how we're going to be safe.

There is no doubt that Bitcoin per se is safe.

As for whether bitcoin is actually a good inflation hedge, I think it doesn't really do a good job of it yet. If you consider it a good inflation hedge, why wouldn't you consider it a safe haven?

It's okay if you and the others doesn't think that Bitcoin isn't a safe haven for them. But talking with the people that have invested early and are in profits now.

All they will say are the same things and that is Bitcoin is a safe haven, a safe asset and a profitable one.

[Mate2237]

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Exactly and that is why entrepreneurs like to take the calculated risk and not the uncalculated risk so they don't believe that in the investment or the business they are doing they will not loss and instead they will make profit from the investment or the business and they have to plan what to do and how to do it. That is the calculated risk we are talking about. And not the one you just into enter into the business and start to invest in it. I'm these days who does that. If you plan well before investing in a business you will sleep well and have peace of mind but whereby you just dash into the business without any concrete plan on ground the. You are inviting risk to your investment. Things are not done like that again. When you plan and see that it will not favour you the way you want it then you stop the investment and plan for another strategy to succeed. That is also a calculated plan.

Don't Invest Because you have the money

Many people invest in bitcoin because others have told them that it is a profitable investment if you are hodling it for a long term investment project but my guys, investment is a personal choice so if the other person who s doing don't just dash in but make sure have to do you home work well very. Calculate your spending habit and what you will be doing in the process of this investment. You have to draw your investment plan so when you start, you will know what and what to do so the RISK everyone is clamouring will never be a problem to you. You don't just key into the investment because you have the resources but you key into it when you finished your homework on the investment.

[WillyAp]

No coin is a save haven asset.
A all out nuclear war and forget Internet, till internet gets back up, and if that is a different issue.
That is the issue with internet. Its quiet fragile.

[Finestream]

Previously, not only did the world consider bitcoin a highly volatile and high-risk asset, but even those of us who invested in bitcoin considered it a high-risk asset. But I think we should gradually change that concept as well as change the way we call it, bitcoin is no longer a risky asset. Recently AllianceBernstein, an asset manager with $699 billion, called bitcoin a safe haven and even more attractive than gold.

For me, this is the first time I've seen a traditional company admit and call bitcoin a safe haven and consider it superior to gold. What do you think about this and should we stop calling bitcoin a risky investment?
https://blockworks.co/news/alliancebernstein-gold-bitcoin-returns

I will never say that bitcoin is a safe haven asset. Investing in bitcoin is such a high risk decision with its very unpredictable market. Although it can be a secured and profitable investment compared to other crypto investments, but to be honest, I would rather say gold investment is way more safe than bitcoin.

However, that does not mean that I won't prioritize bitcoin over gold. Of course, I will always stick to bitcoin due to its high promising profits, but it would be a more wise decision to invest in both if we have spare money for both.

[oktana]

First, I’ll like to point out that safe-heaven means lower risk.

No. We shouldn’t stop calling it a risky investment because it’ll help with risk management for newbies. If you take off that tag, and an inexperienced person’s btc value drops by 5%, they’ll think of it as scam because it is risky but the wrong impression was given. Meanwhile, in as much as Bitcoin is a risky investment, I don’t think of it as a high-risk asset because its changes gradually.

[Japinat]

But as many others have pointed out, bitcoin's volatility is still very high, and it can be manipulated, so considering it a safe haven is not entirely correct.

I would not worry so much about whether it meets the traditional definition of a safe haven asset because of volatility, but whether it is a good long-term investment vehicle. Yes, it is very volatile today, although volatility will reduce over time, but if we compare it to gold in terms of returns since bitcoin was launched, there is no comparison.

Yes, bitcoin is a good investment because its returns are superior to other investments. But I think good investment doesn't necessarily mean being considered a safe haven, I think they're different. To become a safe haven, it is necessary to meet many factors such as safety in terms of acceptance, popularity, stability...bitcoin still does not meet all the requirements to become a safe haven. Bitcoin is a high-return but still high-risk investment, so I think there's nothing wrong with people still not considering it a safe haven.

But to be honest, all investments may not be considered a safe haven because the chances to lose is still high and unpredictable. Even if you claim to be a good investor, that does not guarantee that you are free from losses.

The good thing about bitcoin is despite of its high volatility, the chances to make profits is still high especially if you are being patient with your investment and you don't become easily bothered with price correction or market crash. And the moment you gain profits, its undeniable that what you gained is way more profitable than any other type of investment. One thing that people find it hard to resist with bitcoin.

[mirakal]

Bitcoin will always be a risky investment most especially for beginners who are still inexperienced in the market. The fact that its market is never certain and bitcoin price moves like a roller coaster, then calling it as a safe -haven investment will remain as an illusion. However,  I still believe that bitcoin will be less volatile in the years to come, and probably by that time bitcoin will act like more of a safe haven rather than calling it as a high risky investment.

[n00ber]

Bitcoin will always be a risky investment most especially for beginners who are still inexperienced in the market. The fact that its market is never certain and bitcoin price moves like a roller coaster, then calling it as a safe -haven investment will remain as an illusion. However,  I still believe that bitcoin will be less volatile in the years to come, and probably by that time bitcoin will act like more of a safe haven rather than calling it as a high risky investment.

Currently, bitcoin is not really a safe haven, it is just a risky investment with high profits but comes with high risks. That makes it impossible to become a safe haven.
Bitcoin's volatility has also decreased a lot over the years and there will come a time when it will reach its peak and no longer be so volatile. Then it will be like gold, it can become a safe haven but will no longer be a potential investment.

[Marvell1]

If we talk about security, I agree that bitcoin is the safest asset to date because it cannot be hacked and bitcoin owners will have full ownership and management of their assets. But talking about safety, we need to evaluate many other factors and clearly bitcoin cannot be a safe haven like gold.

I think if it's about safety, we need to deal it ourselves. Like it lies within our hands and activities on how it is going to remain safe, how we're going to be safe.

There is no doubt that Bitcoin per se is safe.

Of course, the safety of bitcoins depends entirely on how we store them. But bitcoin clearly offers a better solution than most other traditional assets in that we have full control over our assets, no one can interfere with or take over our bitcoins. Meanwhile, gold or real estate can still be suddenly confiscated by the government.

As for whether bitcoin is actually a good inflation hedge, I think it doesn't really do a good job of it yet. If you consider it a good inflation hedge, why wouldn't you consider it a safe haven?

It's okay if you and the others doesn't think that Bitcoin isn't a safe haven for them. But talking with the people that have invested early and are in profits now.

All they will say are the same things and that is Bitcoin is a safe haven, a safe asset and a profitable one.

So what about those who invested when bitcoin was priced at $69K? I know they haven't sold yet, meaning they haven't lost money yet, but is a temporary loss of 1/2 of the asset's value a safe haven? That's why I view bitcoin as an investment, not a safe haven.

[synchronym]

Previously, not only did the world consider bitcoin a highly volatile and high-risk asset, but even those of us who invested in bitcoin considered it a high-risk asset. But I think we should gradually change that concept as well as change the way we call it, bitcoin is no longer a risky asset. Recently AllianceBernstein, an asset manager with $699 billion, called bitcoin a safe haven and even more attractive than gold.

For me, this is the first time I've seen a traditional company admit and call bitcoin a safe haven and consider it superior to gold. What do you think about this and should we stop calling bitcoin a risky investment?
https://blockworks.co/news/alliancebernstein-gold-bitcoin-returns

Bitcoin market has been volatile since its inception so we have to invest in Bitcoin. But we must not forget that there is absolutely no risk in Bitcoin, there is risk in Bitcoin, you have to invest time and patience in Bitcoin. If we invest that money in Bitcoin, we will get more value than gold than if we buy gold and keep it. I personally would be more interested in investing in Bitcoin than buying gold. If I want to sell the gold we buy today two days later, I must sell it at a loss. But if I keep buying bitcoins, if my luck is good, I will profit a lot from it.

[Abiky]

Previously, not only did the world consider bitcoin a highly volatile and high-risk asset, but even those of us who invested in bitcoin considered it a high-risk asset. But I think we should gradually change that concept as well as change the way we call it, bitcoin is no longer a risky asset. Recently AllianceBernstein, an asset manager with $699 billion, caRe: Bitcoin is a “safe haven asset”lled bitcoin a safe haven and even more attractive than gold.

For me, this is the first time I've seen a traditional company admit and call bitcoin a safe haven and consider it superior to gold. What do you think about this and should we stop calling bitcoin a risky investment?
https://blockworks.co/news/alliancebernstein-gold-bitcoin-returns

Bitcoin can be anything people want it to be. So far, it has been used by many as a store of value because of its deflationary properties. It hasn't been able to beat Gold yet, because it's relatively new to the market. The mainstream world is not ready yet to embrace Bitcoin at its fullest. But with institutional investors and some governments already expressing their interest towards Bitcoin, it should only be a matter of time before it becomes the new "safe haven asset". Once this happens, market prices will be relatively stable (minimal volatility).

It's good to know how a digital currency when from being worth nothing to thousands of dollars (USD) a few years after its inception. If BTC has gone this far, imagine how farther it will go in the future? Just my opinion

[Bushdark]

Bitcoin will always be a risky investment most especially for beginners who are still inexperienced in the market. The fact that its market is never certain and bitcoin price moves like a roller coaster, then calling it as a safe -haven investment will remain as an illusion. However,  I still believe that bitcoin will be less volatile in the years to come, and probably by that time bitcoin will act like more of a safe haven rather than calling it as a high risky investment.

Currently, bitcoin is not really a safe haven, it is just a risky investment with high profits but comes with high risks. That makes it impossible to become a safe haven.
Bitcoin's volatility has also decreased a lot over the years and there will come a time when it will reach its peak and no longer be so volatile. Then it will be like gold, it can become a safe haven but will no longer be a potential investment.

Whether you term it a risky or non risky investment, what you need to understand is that all financial investment is risky whether you want to invest or trade in the forex market or cryptocurrency market. Whatever where we are putting our money to make profit is risky and we should have that in our mindset. It is wise for us to know how the crypto market works before we ever decide to invest in it. Those that had not taken their time to understand the crypto market and how to can maximize it to make profits are the ones that do complain that the market is risky and one can not make profits from it.

[WillyAp]

Whether you term it a risky or non risky investment, what you need to understand is that all financial investment is risky whether you want to invest or trade in the forex market or cryptocurrency market. Whatever where we are putting our money to make profit is risky and we should have that in our mindset.

You invest in real estate you might loose money but you keep a substantial part. You invest into a company, the risk is there but not going 0.
Forex and Crypto trades are often with leverage. Leverage goes both ways. When you loose you loose all. 

[DanWalker]

Bitcoin will always be a risky investment most especially for beginners who are still inexperienced in the market. The fact that its market is never certain and bitcoin price moves like a roller coaster, then calling it as a safe -haven investment will remain as an illusion. However,  I still believe that bitcoin will be less volatile in the years to come, and probably by that time bitcoin will act like more of a safe haven rather than calling it as a high risky investment.

Currently, bitcoin is not really a safe haven, it is just a risky investment with high profits but comes with high risks. That makes it impossible to become a safe haven.
Bitcoin's volatility has also decreased a lot over the years and there will come a time when it will reach its peak and no longer be so volatile. Then it will be like gold, it can become a safe haven but will no longer be a potential investment.

Whether you term it a risky or non risky investment, what you need to understand is that all financial investment is risky whether you want to invest or trade in the forex market or cryptocurrency market. Whatever where we are putting our money to make profit is risky and we should have that in our mindset. It is wise for us to know how the crypto market works before we ever decide to invest in it. Those that had not taken their time to understand the crypto market and how to can maximize it to make profits are the ones that do complain that the market is risky and one can not make profits from it.

Any investment that can generate profits has potential risks, but whether the risk is large or small depends on the type of asset, not all assets have the same level of risk. Why doesn't anyone call gold a high-risk asset but call it a safe haven? Meanwhile, bitcoin is still considered a risky asset and when it comes to whether it is a safe haven or not, there is a lot of debate. No asset can provide high returns while also having a high level of safety, bitcoin is no exception.

[YUriy1991]

That's right, OP. BTC is not a risky asset and just fluctuates whether it is slow or fast. We will be educated and have a basic understanding of how it works if we pay attention.

Well, if we look at the strong growth in Bitcoin prices, currently there may be many investors, institutions who have the argument that the traditional currency is ready to face disruption. At least BTC is seen as a psychological support level but I strongly believe this is because Bitcoin is much more stable than altcoins and there are many other trading influences on the price.

These are all important points because the market is not always predictable.

[Abiky]

Any investment that can generate profits has potential risks, but whether the risk is large or small depends on the type of asset, not all assets have the same level of risk. Why doesn't anyone call gold a high-risk asset but call it a safe haven? Meanwhile, bitcoin is still considered a risky asset and when it comes to whether it is a safe haven or not, there is a lot of debate. No asset can provide high returns while also having a high level of safety, bitcoin is no exception.

Gold has a lower risk than Bitcoin because of its relatively-stable market prices. In other words, Gold's volatility is much lower than Bitcoin's. This could be the result of market maturity. After all, Gold has been trusted by many people for centuries. Bitcoin is only 14 years old. The approval of a spot Bitcoin ETF is the first step towards market maturity. But it's simply not enough to make BTC surpass Gold's market cap (or at least get close to it).

We're going to need to wait decades (or even a century) before BTC becomes recognized by many as an alternative "safe haven asset". I'm fine with that as long as Bitcoin stays decentralized and censorship-resistant. Who knows if Fiat currencies will die, leaving us only with BTC and Gold as the main driving forces of the global economy? Just my thoughts

[retreat]

For me personally, Bitcoin is not a safe haven asset, at the moment, because there is too much speculation, unclear regulations from the government, and dramas in the crypto market which often make Bitcoin's price unstable. Maybe in the future, if Bitcoin has been adopted by more people and the regulations are clear, then we can say that Bitcoin is a safe haven asset, but for now I don't really agree.