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October 28, 2023, 05:57:56 PM
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For upto 2 years of my stay in this forum, I discovered that the reason most ban appeals are not granted is the format or content of the appeal. This is not an official standard of making an appeal, but a hint that could help anyone make a better appeal that is able to warrant a profile to be unbanned by a moderator. I will discuss this topic in two subheadings;
  • What you do wrongly
  • How to do better

WHAT YOU DO WRONGLY
Wrong caption:
Some persons may argue that this does not carry weight. But I feel that on the altar of appeal, every little thing matters. You wouldn't know if the moderator is like The Sceptical Chemist who could be offended by a misuse of a punctuation mark Lol. The caption should be "Ban Appeal" and not "Unban Appeal"

Wrong content:
Funny enough I have read a ban appeal which read this; I am unable to post with my account because I received a message that my account was banned. Please can an admin unban my account?

No compelling reasons for unban:
Just like what is discussed above, some victims of ban do not present any strong reasons to be unbanned. They most times base their request on emotions. Such posts read like this Since my account was banned, I was unable to eat and sleep because I love Bitcointalk so much that it has become part of me

HOW TO DO BETTER
Honesty:
Here, you are expected to state clearly the reason of your ban. Be it because of plagerism, spam or spreading of malware. Some people fabrics all manner of lies or even pretend they don't know why they were banned just to confuse the community. They forgot that the moderator at the backend of the forum already know the reason for ban and the possibility of unban.

Present Reasons to unban your account:
Take the ban appeal like someone appearing in the law court to appeal life imprisonment or capital punishment. You should be able to convince the judges that you deserve a second chance.
In the case of the forum, you can say this;
I have been a member of this forum, since so so date and before your account was banned you have contributed to the forum in the following ways;
  • You have made such amount of reports. You can link hillarousandco thread
  • You have been an active scam burster and link thread
  • You have written such amount of tutorials and guides, provide link
  • And other good contributions you can remember
This is the best place to make moderators see chances to unban your account.

Try as much as possible to attract community support:
If 80% of people who are discussing in the thread supports your ban appeal, your chances of getting unban is great.

State the reason you committed the crime that led to the ban:
This is strong area to be remorseful and re-assure the moderators that such acts will not repeat again. It could be in the following form;
  • I did so much research and I couldn't differentiate my words from the ones copied and I forgot to insert links
  • Another person got access to my account and shared malware, I am now in control of the account and such a thing will not happen anymore
  • I made some low quality posts when I was not well and they got reported. I will step up my post quality from henceforth.
  • I am actually not conversant with the bumping rules
The above are samples as your own case might be different. But if you have nothing to say keep mute than making up stories that are lies. Any form of lie will reduce your chances of getting unbanned.

Strategic bumping of the appeal thread:
Don't bump your appeal carelessly, else it will becoming annoying to read. Have a good timing to bump. Maybe during new year, during moderator's birthday, when another user is unbanned or during any happy moment in the forum.

The above methods discussed have helped many people get their accounts back. I decided not to link the profiles of such high profile individuals who used the methods above for some reasons of old scars.
I will be happy if this guide will help some banned profiles to be recovered, but the best is to follow the rules and avoid the ban as your chances of getting unbanned is very slim. Also remember that matters are treated on case by case bases, there is therefore no constant yardstick to measure the severity of your offence and your chances of getting a second chance.

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October 28, 2023, 06:10:03 PM
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A very nice and useful tutorial for the ones who have been banned on the forum and want to appeal the admins and moderators to get a second chance to use the forum. I have also seen that the ban appeals aren't made in a professional way and they reach like that they don't really know why they got banned.

No user gets banned from this forum without any valid reason and the banned account owner knows the reason very well but still acts that he/she hasn't broke any rules. It's always better to be honest and admit your mistakes rather than acting in a way to avoid your own mistakes and blame other for your ban.

I have seen some members who were banned from the forum and they acted in a way that they weren't really sure that why they were banned. Those users don't really read the rules of the forum and continue posting the things which aren't allowed in this forum.

It would be better to read the rules first in order to avoid breaking those rules. Once again the ones who follow the rules don't get banned and if someone has broken a rule in unconscious way then that person should accept his/her mistake and make a decent ban appeal.

That way the member may get another chance if his/her mistake wasn't of a severe nature however if someone has consciously broken the rules and avoided the rules altogether then that person may not get another chance to use the forum again.

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October 28, 2023, 06:26:21 PM
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This is great thread, a good report will actually increases a ban member from getting his appeal granted.

One thing I would say I notice about ban appeal not getting granted on this forum is that many do this banned members before getting an approval would have broke another ban evasion rule mostly by creating alts and continuing with there activities on the forum, so when they start the appeal and the community begins to dig them the evasion gets revealed and the chances of getting an appeal approved gets slim. So the other thing aside a good report is to read the rules and make sure you are not doing any action that will result in ban evasion.

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October 28, 2023, 07:18:55 PM
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For upto 2 years of my stay in this forum, I discovered that the reason most ban appeals are not granted is the format or content of the appeal.
This is very far from he truth. Ban appeals are not granted cause most bans are legitimate and the banned user actually broke the rules deliberately, sometimes they broke it multiple times and they are not net positive members to the forum.
However you construct the appeal and the support you get will not change the verdict.

If you are banned

Your ban message may have an email address which you can email. If not, then appeals are unlikely to be accepted.
If you are banned, this is the most ideal way to appeal it. A thread in meta can be made to support this and get the attention of mods quicker.

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October 28, 2023, 07:34:52 PM
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I won't consider myself an expert, but I think the major reason for an appeal of banned account not being been granted is actually because of the severity to which the account was actually banned. For starters I normally see all this ban appeal as a waste of time because before a moderator actually bans an account maybe the users is always frequent on the act that lead to his account been blocked and if that's the case, I think no matter how well you wrote the appeal, it's probably just a waste of time because there is enough evidence that warranted the account to banned.

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October 28, 2023, 08:04:58 PM
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Strategic bumping of the appeal thread:
Don't bump your appeal carelessly, else it will becoming annoying to read. Have a good timing to bump. Maybe during new year, during moderator's birthday, when another user is unbanned or during any happy moment in the forum.

Well explained, although I can only wish that banned users would take the "precious" time to read it.

To be honest, I believe that about 95% of banned users are aware of why they've been banned, and expecting them to be honest and admit their mistake might not always work.

However, for that remaining 5% (and that's being optimistic), those who found themselves on the wrong side of the ban hammer might indeed benefit from being honest in their appeal.

But most of all, I couldn't help but applaud at the idea of "strategically bumping" the appeal thread, especially during the "moderator's birthday"—that's quite the creative approach! but I mean really?

Why not also consider appealing for an unban as a Christmas gift or on Bitcoin's anniversary day?

And of course, New Year's appeals could be seen as a unique way to kick off the year.

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October 28, 2023, 09:15:30 PM
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I won't consider myself an expert, but I think the major reason for an appeal of banned account not being been granted is actually because of the severity to which the account was actually banned.
I don't know if you can also count this as a reason but I'll just say it: You're better off just being banned and not returning to the forum because even if you come, the other forum users will never forget your sins you know, like having a tainted account,, you won't ever be able to use it as normally you could've plus a lot of the users in the forum has probably said their piece on why they hate you and why you deserve a ban so yeah, better off not appealing. I want to see people use this format though, and see if it works plus are the other users even ready to forgive someone that's successfully appealed their ban because the way I see, everyone here is pretty harsh on people who commit wrongdoings here as if they're a saint.
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I won't consider myself an expert, but I think the major reason for an appeal of banned account not being been granted is actually because of the severity to which the account was actually banned.
I don't know if you can also count this as a reason but I'll just say it: You're better off just being banned and not returning to the forum because even if you come, the other forum users will never forget your sins you know, like having a tainted account,, you won't ever be able to use it as normally you could've plus a lot of the users in the forum has probably said their piece on why they hate you and why you deserve a ban so yeah, better off not appealing. I want to see people use this format though, and see if it works plus are the other users even ready to forgive someone that's successfully appealed their ban because the way I see, everyone here is pretty harsh on people who commit wrongdoings here as if they're a saint.
Not being long here but I feel you actually speak the truth in some way because during my short stay here I actually haven't seen any account get unbanned, instead of that, the user only faced more punishment through the appeal written because the appeal actually gives right for other members here to actually dig more dirty shit that the account has been involved in that's if the account is also involved in cheating like having a alt and using it against the rules if forum. But what you said it's actually kinda reasonable because even if you are pardon you will still be the one to bear the scar inflicted through the crimes committed.

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October 28, 2023, 10:24:32 PM
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Yea, this is a very detailed explanation and a helpful thread, @OP. Some of the ban appeals I have read don't usually contain much of a good reason as to why they are appealing for an unban. Some people don't talk about how productive they intend to be after their account is banned; sometimes, the way they even write their appeal ends up annoying some memeber who have intentions to support them. In one appeal thread I was reading some months ago, almost everyone commenting there was against the OP. The reason is because the OP is not a good poster, and they said there was no reason to even unban someone whose post is just not adding any value to the topic. If someone takes their time to read through your thread and write a proper appeal thread, they can have the opportunity of getting a second chance from the moderators.

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I believe this thread will be useful to banned accounts that may want to make a plea. I’ve read some recent ban appeal requests and frankly the OPs often try to sugarcoat the situation or act ignorant. This doesn’t help their case, as far as I know there hasn’t been any recent case of any account being unbanned this year. I think it will be more difficult to get consideration if the offense is plagiarism because the moderators often times do not ban accounts on cases of a single plagiarism, there is usually more than one plagiarism reports before they ban the account.

A ban appeal is brief and sincere. It shouldn’t be treated as though you’re making post for merits, don’t make unnecessary comments to avoid the going off topic and derailing the thread. This is Theymos opinion on ban appeals;
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If you think that a ban should be ended, make your case in a new topic from a "good for the forum as a whole" perspective.

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October 28, 2023, 11:19:31 PM
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You wouldn't know if the moderator is like The Sceptical Chemist who could be offended by a misuse of a punctuation mark Lol. The caption should be "Ban Appeal" and not "Unban Appeal"
Lol.  Thank goodness Theymos tends to hire even-tempered moderators and not anal retentive grammar nazis like myself.  That's a joke; not that I'm a stickler for writing in proper English (or whatever language you're using) but that that issue would even be on my radar if I was evaluating a ban appeal.  Sure, I might find it annoying but after this long on the forum I think I've gotten used to mistakes made by people whose native tongue isn't my own.

Aside from all of that, the fact is that most members who've had the ban hammer slammed down on their fingers can't write to save their lives and thus resort to plagiarism or are here primarily to spam.

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Not being long here but I feel you actually speak the truth in some way because during my short stay here I actually haven't seen any account get unbanned, instead of that, the user only faced more punishment through the appeal written because the appeal actually gives right for other members here to actually dig more dirty shit that the account has been involved in that's if the account is also involved in cheating like having a alt and using it against the rules if forum. But what you said it's actually kinda reasonable because even if you are pardon you will still be the one to bear the scar inflicted through the crimes committed.
Exactly, the users in this forum are so protective and reactive of people that's trying to appeal their ban by tagging their alt account that's trying for an appeal with ban evasion, in short they really don't want a lot of people in this forum, they want to make sure that the only people left here are those that they feel like deserve to be here or their friends. I guess we just have to avoid being banned so we don't have to worry about this useless advice of how appeal your ban.
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To be honest, I believe that about 95% of banned users are aware of why they've been banned, and expecting them to be honest and admit their mistake might not always work.
Committing plagiarism isn't always the most offensive mistake in every countries, so I don't think they're aware of their mistake, moreover if they've wrote many posts. Maybe they did plagiarism when they were new in this forum, when they know this forum not allow plagiarism, they aware they will not commit plagiarism in the next post, but they might forget to correct their old posts.

It's really normal when the alt accounts asking why they got banned.

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October 31, 2023, 12:32:56 PM
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A presentation of appealing for an account that is been ban will not guarantee the ban account to be unban from my perspective, even though your presentation is cogent and formative enough to unban the crime account, I think that what matters enough for account to be unban is base on commitment, so I believe that the crime of the account will determine if the account will be free from ban or not.

For example someone commit a plagiarism and Paraphrasing like twenty [20] times or multiple times and the person sugar coated a words and present it to us, so do you think that due to the way he or her addresses the forum will make the moderators to unban his account while some person's has committed such crimes and till date they are still in punishment of the crime.

We should call a spade a spade, a crime is a crime and nobody is above crime and when you committed it, its final about it, and theirs nothing we can say about it. Actually the way you present a matter that is how people will address the matter, so law can not see one person and change a navigation its unjust.

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For example someone commit a plagiarism and Paraphrasing like twenty [20] times or multiple times and the person sugar coated a words and present it to us, so do you think that due to the way he or her addresses the forum will make the moderators to unban his account while some person's has committed such crimes and till date they are still in punishment of the crime.

We should call a spade a spade, a crime is a crime and nobody is above crime and when you committed it, its final about it, and theirs nothing we can say about it. Actually the way you present a matter that is how people will address the matter, so law can not see one person and change a navigation its unjust.
Yes I believe even if a person has committed plagiarism, if he owns up to his mistakes wholly without making excuses for his actions, I think he will stand a better chance of getting a listening ear.

I feel a way about regarding plagiarism to be the same as or equivalent to a crime. Stealing a person’s work is wrong and perpetrators should be punished by all means, I just don’t feel the need to exaggerate or make it sound like offenders are going to jail. IMO I think the forum take plagiarism offense more seriously than other bad activities that are happening in the forum, I think accounts that have been tagged and proven to be scammers should be banned. 

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Probably the most apt reply in this whole thread, I don't see the whole point of doing an appeal given that most people that got banned really did have a legitimate reason for getting banned as @Upgrade00 has said but I can also understand why @KingsDen wants to help with the appeal creation, the motive probably stems from the fact that in a real justice system, even if you are guilty beyond reasonable doubt, you still have the option to appeal to the sentencing but given that this forum isn't the real world, I guess a ban hammer should be in a way an absolute thing.



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The above methods discussed have helped many people get their accounts back. I decided not to link the profiles of such high profile individuals who used the methods above for some reasons of old scars.
I will be happy if this guide will help some banned profiles to be recovered, but the best is to follow the rules and avoid the ban as your chances of getting unbanned is very slim. Also remember that matters are treated on case by case bases, there is therefore no constant yardstick to measure the severity of your offence and your chances of getting a second chance.

I must commend, this is one of the best, insightful and informative thread you just shared @ Sir Kingden, and I'm really much grateful for this, as it will go a long way in helping many users present their "unbanned" case in a manner more appealing and likely to grant a user 50% success rate in whoever adopt such method in his/her ban appeal. However, I will like to add my advise that just as O.P foretold, it will be best if anyone do not compromise on any issue that will result to him/her been banned. Henceforth, the forum rules and regulation should be our number one priority, in other to avoid stories that touch the heart.

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If you are banned, this is the forum's way of preventing you from making money from your account, and the reason for this is that you did not adhere to the rules of the forum, so even if your account is unbanned, you will be prevented from wearing a signature for a long time.
You provided a good explanation, but I think that unban differs from one case to another. Was the plagiarism to make money as quickly as possible, or was it something useful and valuable, but you did not respect the literary right of the writer?
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