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Lease the place for the lottery
Accept other business that will lease

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October 30, 2023, 10:24:41 PM
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The best thing to do would be to learn how the lottery business works. Im not saying that he should change his morals but practiaclly speaking, he needs money. He should also study why there is no lottery on their place yet and verify it. To go with the offer would be the best option but if he has something in mind like other business where he doesnt have to “sacrifice” morals. He can consider it too.

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October 30, 2023, 10:36:01 PM
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The best thing to do would be to learn how the lottery business works. Im not saying that he should change his morals but practiaclly speaking, he needs money. He should also study why there is no lottery on their place yet and verify it. To go with the offer would be the best option but if he has something in mind like other business where he doesnt have to “sacrifice” morals. He can consider it too.

Lottery business most of the time becomes a lucrative business, so if he wants a good passive income, he can accept this type of business. Because no matter what, these gamblers will find a place to put their bets. Remember, there are so many online businesses now. So why not just grab the opportunity while it is still profitable?
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October 30, 2023, 11:05:01 PM
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He thinks that with the lotto outlet, he will encourage people to gamble which is against his morals so it is a battle between his conscience and the profit.
Whether he likes it or not and decides to rent out the property or not, the lotto agent will find a place to set up the gambling house, if not in the same street, in the next street. His actions as one man will not be enough to stop people from gambling in a place where the government sees gambling as legal.

Tell your friend to face reality and take profits.

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October 30, 2023, 11:28:06 PM
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First I would like to state that Gambling is legal in our country

This is my friend's story, business is not good in my friend's store which he owns the location is highly commercial but he cannot compete with the large and popular groceries nearby so he decided to stop operation and just offer to lease or rent it.

Because of the location a lottery agent who has a license approached him and is looking for a good place to set up his lottery, my friend's place is very much suited because there's no lotto outlet in that place, and with so many people coming and going and the fact that lotto is very popular in our country, the agent wants to lease at a very good price and a share of the income of the lotto.

He thinks that with the lotto outlet, he will encourage people to gamble which is against his morals so it is a battle between his conscience and the profit.

So what's the best decision to take he is afraid if he lets go of this opportunity the lotto agent will eventually find a location in their place and eventually lose the opportunity to make a profit.
First of all, since you've said that lotto is legal in your country then I think there's nothing wrong if your friend accepted the proposal of lesse. For me, when it comes to practicality, I will accept the offer, in that way you will generate an income and you will get a commission to the lotto income and that's a big hit. Just Face the reality and accept the offer, that's how business works.



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October 30, 2023, 11:52:27 PM
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Considering that a lottery approached him due to the location, don't you think there'd also be other businesses, ones that could generate more profit than lotteries approach your friend instead? If the words were just for negotiation then things might be different though. But anyway, if the location is indeed THAT good and your friend doesn't need money immediately, then just wait for better offers I guess if he really doesn't want to.

But Morals? Really? Psh, morals ain't going to stand shit when you're dealing with businesses. If he really was that mindful of his morals he would've idk, built an orphanage, a church, or whatever "good" thing society thinks in that lot of theirs.

 
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October 31, 2023, 01:38:22 AM
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He thinks that with the lotto outlet, he will encourage people to gamble which is against his morals so it is a battle between his conscience and the profit.

So what's the best decision to take he is afraid if he lets go of this opportunity the lotto agent will eventually find a location in their place and eventually lose the opportunity to make a profit.
The other posts from the previous pages already mentioned some good points. It'll depend on your friend's financial situation because if money isn't the main issue, it might be worth waiting longer to see what other offers show up.

Then again, as you've mentioned, finding a replacement won't be a problem for the lotto agent, so i'd say it's mostly your friend missing out on a potentially long-term source of income when you also pointed out that lotto is popular in your country.

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October 31, 2023, 02:30:18 AM
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I would accept this offer because there are many many reasons...

it doesn't mean that something that goes against morality is against morality or Better, against people's common sense.
from a certain point of view anything can always be seen as positive or negative...
ok maybe the store it is rented to a business that sells junk food to minors, is that even better?!
Thats why its really harder find the perfect ethical business on that case....

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October 31, 2023, 03:03:06 AM
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He thinks that with the lotto outlet, he will encourage people to gamble which is against his morals so it is a battle between his conscience and the profit.

So what's the best decision to take he is afraid if he lets go of this opportunity the lotto agent will eventually find a location in their place and eventually lose the opportunity to make a profit.
Your friend needs to choose what's more important, is it the profit or his moral? Profit means more income so it depends on his status. If it's urgent and he already need a renter to have a source of income then there's no point to hesitate.

However, if his conscience is bothering him then he can refuse. For sure he can still find a renter that will pays him well especially the location of his property is good for business. That's why this depends on his personal reasoning because regardless of what we advice, in the end, the decision is still up to him.

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October 31, 2023, 05:24:29 AM
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Actually, from your story, we already know what his answer is but he is still hesitant to decide because there is still conflict within him. He already knows that renting out his place to a lottery outlet is against his morals because he will see people buying lottery tickets. Even if it is legal in your country, he still may not feel comfortable.

We leave the choice up to him because we don't want him to regret what he did. And we know this is a dilemma for him where he sees the benefits before his eyes but it is all against him. Maybe it's better if he doesn't rent out his place to a lottery outlet and shouldn't regret his decision. But if he still wants to rent out his place, that's up to him. Each has consequences.

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October 31, 2023, 05:52:47 AM
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He needs to weigh whatever is good for him because sometimes when a person loses every source of income and he only finds the best way to resolve it is to swallow his pride and forget his conscience, he will gonna do so because of how hard life is. I think it is best to just do whatever he can through the means that he won't have any problem with his morals even if the profit is not that big because, throughout time, he will gonna forget his morals and will just simply embrace his new source of income because he will find it hard to let it go because he already used to it. Right now, while his conscience is still there, he needs to make up his mind and do the right things.

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October 31, 2023, 05:53:23 AM
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Actually, from your story, we already know what his answer is but he is still hesitant to decide because there is still conflict within him. He already knows that renting out his place to a lottery outlet is against his morals because he will see people buying lottery tickets. Even if it is legal in your country, he still may not feel comfortable.

We leave the choice up to him because we don't want him to regret what he did. And we know this is a dilemma for him where he sees the benefits before his eyes but it is all against him. Maybe it's better if he doesn't rent out his place to a lottery outlet and shouldn't regret his decision. But if he still wants to rent out his place, that's up to him. Each has consequences.

Exactly what defines existentialism; choices. And in his situation, he'll be confused on what choice to take. Have he ever bragged somewhere that he'll never have to do with gambling. It'll be a shame to him to jeopardize his thoughts and believe for his love for money. In the business world, nothing as such exists especially when in a legalized business conversation. We can't be or think like him, no one knows his deep reasons, could be a childhood upbringing. And if so, he'll never have rest after renting out to those lottery guys. One, like myself, would immediately say that he's not serious doing business. But, his choice that doesn't sound like a choice to me is still a choice.

I would accept this offer because there are many many reasons...

it doesn't mean that something that goes against morality is against morality or Better, against people's common sense.
from a certain point of view anything can always be seen as positive or negative...
ok maybe the store it is rented to a business that sells junk food to minors, is that even better?!
Thats why its really harder find the perfect ethical business on that case....

Funny how it'll be better he continued his normal business there, instead of wasting the time of other business men who'd want to utilize the space. How sure is he that a better business possessing person that'll interest him would come his way, looking for the shop. Because the area is already occupied with grocery stores and a unique business like lottery is indeed the best for the slot. A grocery store owner wouldn't want that space. He should expect to receive more offers from gambling related proposals. When that happens, what would he do, leave the store vacant for long? Thereby wasting time and money, because of his ideas and belief. It's left for him.

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October 31, 2023, 05:58:46 AM
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The best thing to do would be to learn how the lottery business works. Im not saying that he should change his morals but practiaclly speaking, he needs money. He should also study why there is no lottery on their place yet and verify it. To go with the offer would be the best option but if he has something in mind like other business where he doesnt have to “sacrifice” morals. He can consider it too.
Agree with you, everyone needs money to meet their living needs and also to collect some savings for future needs so that if business has obtained permit and is legal then there is no need to think about morals and conscience as long as we do not violate regulations existing.
Lottery is type of gambling that is quite popular in several countries and there are even government programs that have lottery for charity so if we think too much that the gambling business is business that sacrifices morals and conscience then we will never be able to develop by taking advantage of opportunities that may not be possible came twice.

It better to accept the offer and forget about your conscience because when we experience financial problems, there are not necessarily other people who want to care about helping us with the problems we are facing.
Opportunities like this are opportunities that we are always waiting for, especially since we can make quite large amounts of money consistently.

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October 31, 2023, 08:00:20 AM
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He thinks that with the lotto outlet, he will encourage people to gamble which is against his morals so it is a battle between his conscience and the profit.

So what's the best decision to take he is afraid if he lets go of this opportunity the lotto agent will eventually find a location in their place and eventually lose the opportunity to make a profit.
- I don't consider the lottery to be genuine gambling. It's a form of entertainment permitted in many countries, and it doesn't involve the same level of risk as traditional gambling. Furthermore, if they don't rent a space from your friend, they can easily find another location to operate. Renting premises for a legal activity is a standard business practice, so your friend shouldn't perceive it as unethical.
- These are my personal views, and others, including your friend, may have their own beliefs. Life is full of challenging situations that can cause inner turmoil, and often, emotions and personal convictions play a crucial role in decision-making.
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Exactly what defines existentialism; choices. And in his situation, he'll be confused on what choice to take. Have he ever bragged somewhere that he'll never have to do with gambling. It'll be a shame to him to jeopardize his thoughts and believe for his love for money. In the business world, nothing as such exists especially when in a legalized business conversation. We can't be or think like him, no one knows his deep reasons, could be a childhood upbringing. And if so, he'll never have rest after renting out to those lottery guys. One, like myself, would immediately say that he's not serious doing business. But, his choice that doesn't sound like a choice to me is still a choice.
And it would be better for him not to rent out his place for a lottery outlet and choose to open another business. He could invite other people to partner so they can have more money to open a new business that can develop even better. In business, if someone is already hesitant about making a decision, he should not go ahead with it because it might not work well, especially if the place is used as a lottery outlet, even though lottery is legal in his country. I would advise him to look for other investors who want to rent his place and have nothing to do with gambling so that his heart is calm and he doesn't think about morality or anything else.

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October 31, 2023, 09:58:37 AM
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So what's the best decision to take he is afraid if he lets go of this opportunity the lotto agent will eventually find a location in their place and eventually lose the opportunity to make a profit.
Do what his conscience says because he only does it based on other people's advice and it turns out that it goes against his conscience and when something bad happens he will regret it. If the use of the place is his main concentration then don't rent it out without having to think about it if it takes a long time to get a tenant but if money is the most important thing then rent it out, but if he really cares about the condition of his community and thinks it will be detrimental to his community then it's better not to rent it out.

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October 31, 2023, 10:45:19 AM
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First I would like to state that Gambling is legal in our country

This is my friend's story, business is not good in my friend's store which he owns the location is highly commercial but he cannot compete with the large and popular groceries nearby so he decided to stop operation and just offer to lease or rent it.

Because of the location a lottery agent who has a license approached him and is looking for a good place to set up his lottery, my friend's place is very much suited because there's no lotto outlet in that place, and with so many people coming and going and the fact that lotto is very popular in our country, the agent wants to lease at a very good price and a share of the income of the lotto.

He thinks that with the lotto outlet, he will encourage people to gamble which is against his morals so it is a battle between his conscience and the profit.

So what's the best decision to take he is afraid if he lets go of this opportunity the lotto agent will eventually find a location in their place and eventually lose the opportunity to make a profit.


This is really hard especially if we are talking about belief, because we cannot tell other people to do things that is against their belief. But since you have mentioned that gambling is already in your country, I think you can convince your friend that it is not an illicit activity anymore. And also, he is not the one having the lottery business, meaning he does not have to do anything with the business. In my country, lotto is actually made legalized and run by the government and the money earned is used in charities, government programs and projects. Maybe you can convince him by sharing this, because as far as I know, this is the very reason why lottery is being legalized in different countries. But again, it is still up to him and we cannot tell him to do things that us against his moral. But as a friend, you can talk and convince him.
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October 31, 2023, 11:24:39 AM
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He thinks that with the lotto outlet, he will encourage people to gamble which is against his morals so it is a battle between his conscience and the profit.
You already stated that gambling is legal in your country so there is no law against being a gambler, this makes it a thing of choice. I don't actually see gambling as bad, it's just a game of chance similar to most of the things we do in life include career jobs and businesses. When he was starting his business, he never knew he will not succeed, he believed he will make progress but unfortunately, it didn't happen... he just participated in gambling. What then is the moral burden in this? It is obvious your friend have a wrong mindset about gambling.

He has opportunity of making good money and if he misses it, someone else will pick it and he will watch the lotto business established.

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October 31, 2023, 11:52:43 AM
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Lotto players still have their own choice if they will bet or not. I don't think it should be against his conscience. There are chances that these players are already old bettors of lotto and he might be the one that will ease the way their bet especially if the next outlet is way far from theirs.
It's legal so he ain't doing anything wrong, he is just offering the space for the lotto business and who knows if one of the bettors near him will be the one who will get the jackpot.
I am not against this and there's also a rule that no 18-year-old below should be allowed to bet which means every patron will be in their right mind before they make their bets. I think this is a good chance for him to make some profits out of that space that cannot be used or won't make profits from other businesses.
I didn't know lotto agents would be the ones moving forward to offer this kind of deal, I thought those who want to open that type of business would be the ones who will apply for that service. Thank you for the information.

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October 31, 2023, 02:49:05 PM
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The best thing to do would be to learn how the lottery business works. Im not saying that he should change his morals but practiaclly speaking, he needs money. He should also study why there is no lottery on their place yet and verify it. To go with the offer would be the best option but if he has something in mind like other business where he doesnt have to “sacrifice” morals. He can consider it too.
Agree with you, everyone needs money to meet their living needs and also to collect some savings for future needs so that if business has obtained permit and is legal then there is no need to think about morals and conscience as long as we do not violate regulations existing.
Lottery is type of gambling that is quite popular in several countries and there are even government programs that have lottery for charity so if we think too much that the gambling business is business that sacrifices morals and conscience then we will never be able to develop by taking advantage of opportunities that may not be possible came twice.

It better to accept the offer and forget about your conscience because when we experience financial problems, there are not necessarily other people who want to care about helping us with the problems we are facing.
Opportunities like this are opportunities that we are always waiting for, especially since we can make quite large amounts of money consistently.
Some people do put legalities and permits ahead of morals when they are looking for chances. If a business, like a lotto, is legal and could make you money, I can see how you might see it as a good idea without being weighed down by guilt.

But it's important to ask: Are chances only about making money? It is absolutely necessary to think carefully about the long-term effects and results of putting money before ethics. Chances come and go, but the effects of choices made out of necessity rather than rightness can last for a long time. It's not really a problem; it's a standard dilemma where you have to choose between making quick money and doing the right thing.

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October 31, 2023, 03:14:24 PM
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First I would like to state that Gambling is legal in our country

This is my friend's story, business is not good in my friend's store which he owns the location is highly commercial but he cannot compete with the large and popular groceries nearby so he decided to stop operation and just offer to lease or rent it.

Because of the location a lottery agent who has a license approached him and is looking for a good place to set up his lottery, my friend's place is very much suited because there's no lotto outlet in that place, and with so many people coming and going and the fact that lotto is very popular in our country, the agent wants to lease at a very good price and a share of the income of the lotto.

He thinks that with the lotto outlet, he will encourage people to gamble which is against his morals so it is a battle between his conscience and the profit.

So what's the best decision to take he is afraid if he lets go of this opportunity the lotto agent will eventually find a location in their place and eventually lose the opportunity to make a profit.
I think he has to try with lottery outlet, that was actually my job some years ago that is where I was a Bit into gambling. If you are living here in the Philippines I think it is not against his morale as proceeds of the lottery bets will go to donations of ambulance and other health related machines. Opportunity comes once so I think he has to grab it or else other business minded people will take that.



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