Will Putin's Alleged death boost the world's economy?

[philipma1957]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/vladimir-putin-is-dead-after-rumored-illness-understudy-recognized-as-stand-in-president-kremlin-source-say/ar-AA1jaGGz?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=6f422a352cf442b09ab2b221eed58873&ei=10


A Kremlin source alleged that Vladimir Putin died over the weekend, and a body double has been officially recognized as the president of Russia, RadarOnline.com has learned.

The report follows rumors that Putin, 71, suffered a heart attack in recent weeks and was living out his final days in solitude while the alleged doppelgängers carried out official duties.


So if true how will this affect the worlds economy?


My guess is the 'fake' Putin's will be puppets and the war goes on business as usual. I voted no.

I modded this as people may get heated over it.

The war angle means people die and the economy struggles.

But if he is really dead and we do get a new leader things could shift bigly.

[paid2]

I answered "What the fuck are you talking about?" because for now, I saw nothing related to Putin's death in my European news websites.
A Telegram channel is not a good source enough IMO (the one mentioned in the article)

But if his death were to occur, I think it would probably disturb the global economy . I imagine that Russia would certainly enter in an uncertain and probably socially turbulent phase.

Having one of the world's great powers, and one of the main actor of the BRICS, in the throes of a major social crisis could have major repercussions, not to mention Westerners and others trying to get a bigger slice of the pie in Russia after Putin s death... Russia exports a lot, meaning an unstable Russia would be bad for the economy.

And about the war, not sure that it will end with Putin s death...

[suchmoon]

A Kremlin source

LOL

But even if this was real, there being a "body double" means that nothing is supposed to change, doesn't it? For all we know, Putin's been dead for 10 years and we're now on the 3rd body double.

[OgNasty]

I haven’t heard anything about this. Putin seems like a pretty healthy individual and one of the wealthiest people in the world so I’d be a little bit surprised if it were true. I’m sure there are no shortage of people who are attempting to assassinate him though so we’ll have to wait and see what the truth is I guess.

[FinneysTrueVision]

I checked the website that originally published the story and the main story featured on their homepage is about something related to "The Real Housewives of New Jersey", a scripted reality show. Clearly it's just a dumb tabloid grasping at whatever obscure, unsubstantiated rumor they could find to create some sensationalized clickbait story.

[Zaguru12]

The report follows rumors that Putin, 71, suffered a heart attack in recent weeks and was living out his final days in solitude while the alleged doppelgängers carried out official duties.

This will be funny, because a country like Russia with all its powers and also very intellectually oriented citizens got scammed by having a doppelgänger as a president .

So if true how will this affect the worlds economy?

Easy, the band of the world war people sing around will slow down, the west or probably Europeans and the America will be looking at how to win over the double body to their side, at least this could actually bring the business ones done between this two countries back again. Because one thing I perceive is the major hatred of the west towards Russia is centered on Putin. Would the doppelgänger have same balls as him? NO, a photocopy no matter how perfect it is can’t be bold as the original copy

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Well, assuming it were true, what I think it would bring first is uncertainty, and uncertainty is not something that markets tend to like. If after a short time it became clear that his replacement would be someone with a more pacifist orientation, especially with respect to the conflict in Ukraine, I think that would be the case. But we also don't know whether he would be replaced by someone like him or someone more radical.

[Odohu]

How possible will it be to conceal sensitive information such as the death of a president like Putin, from the rest of the world considering how sophisticated technology has become and the power of social media? The chances of this being true is really slim. I had conversation with some friends in Russia over the weekend and non of them mentioned it.

 Nevertheless, if it happens to be true, I don't see how it can affect the world's economy that much much. It will just be a minor response which will fade away easily. Considering the kind of support Putin have in Russia, the successor might not be too different from him in terms of ideology. I feel Russia's latest political moves and international policy is bigger than Putin himself. Their success in Syria and expansion in Africa is not something they would want to loose. So, the successor will like toe the line of Putin and this will not change global economy that much.

[Lida93]

But if he is really dead and we do get a new leader things could shift bigly.

The question is what is the US (the White House) saying or have said about this news, has there been any press briefing regarding this since the weekend confirming it based on forensic information that they would have gathered by now. If no, then I refute such news concerning the death of Putin to be untrue.

Putin is a man that has been a torn on the flesh of Western bloc and parts of Europe in that case everyone of his subject loyal to him must have his ideology and belief system and a successor can not come from a different line which means his death either now or tomorrow would change little or nothing about the current situation of the war and how it's affecting the world economy. Worst if a more radicalist Putist should succeed  his position it would be another story altogether and not what we're discussing here.  In otherwords, the war is an ideological war so the death of Putin at anytime can't be an end to the war, it's something we all must understand.

[blckhawk]

But even if this was real, there being a "body double" means that nothing is supposed to change, doesn't it? For all we know, Putin's been dead for 10 years and we're now on the 3rd body double.

Your theory is so scary if I am being honest with you because that means that the Russian deep state is much stronger than we think they are and it's such a pretty scary thing that they're willing to keep up a facade just so we still be on our toes. But on the topic though, I think that his death will definitely be a net positive to the world's economy depending on his successor stance on the war that Putin has waged on Ukraine, if it's a total stop in the war then it's going to be a positive for the world and Russia as sanctions are going to be lifted and it's definitely a negative for Russia but a bit much worse to the world itself because the successor might be more unhinged than Putin when it comes to usage of nuclear weapon.

[inthelongrun]

But even if this was real, there being a "body double" means that nothing is supposed to change, doesn't it? For all we know, Putin's been dead for 10 years and we're now on the 3rd body double.

Your theory is so scary if I am being honest with you because that means that the Russian deep state is much stronger than we think they are and it's such a pretty scary thing that they're willing to keep up a facade just so we still be on our toes. But on the topic though, I think that his death will definitely be a net positive to the world's economy depending on his successor stance on the war that Putin has waged on Ukraine, if it's a total stop in the war then it's going to be a positive for the world and Russia as sanctions are going to be lifted and it's definitely a negative for Russia but a bit much worse to the world itself because the successor might be more unhinged than Putin when it comes to usage of nuclear weapon.

So it's the reason why body double 1 Vladimir and his ex-wife Lyudmila announced the end of their relationship and divorce was filed last 2013 which was 10 years from now? But what will be the good reasons for double-bodying Putin? Way back in 2013, Putin's potential successor and the prime minister, Dmitry Medvedev just ended his presidential term in 2012. So I guess there would be no power vacuum if Putin left this world 10 years ago. Medvedev seems to have fallen out of favor last 2020 ending his term as premier. Although it might be good since he seems to be more militarily aggressive than Putin even mentioning the use of nuclear weapons including the issue with Ukraine.

With regard to the OP question, I answered wtf since I don't think the rumor is true. But if it is indeed true then we will find out who's the successor first. Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin is possible to negotiate to stop the war rather than the hardliners like Medvedev.

[coolcoinz]

To my understanding, Dmitry Medvedev is Putin's lapdog and he supports the war, along with most high ranked military officials.
If Putin dies they will either keep playing this game with lookalikes, afraid that admitting it might lower the morale of soldiers fighting in Ukraine, or they'll openly say that he's dead but the government wants to keep going.

They don't have much choice. They can't shut it down the way they run from Afghanistan in 89, because it would be a political suicide for them. They'll keep fighting for as long as there's a chance of getting a positive outcome. What is positive for them? For instance permanently moving the border to include separatist republics. The perfect situation they were hoping for was to secure the land south of The Dnieper that includes Zaporizhia power plant. That area has a natural border along the river, protects Crimea from land attacks and is easy to defend provided they're given enough time to prepare.

[DeathAngel]

I don’t believe he’s dead to be honest & even if he was or when he does, there will be somebody equally tyrannical that takes his position so in essence, no I don’t think it will do much to the world economy. It’s only a personal opinion though, I don’t base it on anything other than gut feeling.

[LTU_btc]

I'm wondering how many times in recent years Putin has died. He is like a cat who have 9 lives. But seriously, from all these reports, this one looks least realistic. Only one Telegram channel, called General SVR and from what I saw and what reaction it received, nobody didn't believed in these reports seriously. In past this channel looked like reputable source of information, but in recently it lost it's credibilty.
IMO, it looked like editor got drunk too much and then turned on his fantasy. Because this story doesn't sounds realistic at all.

Putin seems like a pretty healthy individual and one of the wealthiest people in the world so I’d be a little bit surprised if it were true.

Putin looked pretty health few years ago, but now it's not same anymore. If you would look closer, you would see that things had changed. Why he needs all these extremely long table or mandatory lockdown for people who want to meet him. Also, in his public appearances he coughs a lot. And it's been a while since showed his macho image like jumping into ice water. Still, he looks way better than Biden, but I wouldn't say that he is pretty healthy.

To my understanding, Dmitry Medvedev is Putin's lapdog and he supports the war, along with most high ranked military officials.
If Putin dies they will either keep playing this game with lookalikes, afraid that admitting it might lower the morale of soldiers fighting in Ukraine, or they'll openly say that he's dead but the government wants to keep going.

I would rule out Medvedev as potential replacement. Even in Russia his ratings is low and many aren't looking seriously into him. Now he has role of angry clown who threatens to destroy half of world with nuclear weapon. Something similar what Zhirinovsky was doing until his death.

[NotATether]

It looks like fake news since only fringe sources are writing about it.

Also, body doubles don't have the same intelligence as the people they look like. That's why they are only good for performing stunts in movies.  

[Hispo]

I saw that news some days ago and at first I indeed thought there was a chance indeed Putin had died, however as I started to search for sources and information I realized there was no major media (neither from the left or the right) talking about it, so I assumed it was just a unexpected news they would wait until further confirmation.
At this point, because  I have not heard about confirmation and people are talking about body doubles and stuff like that, I can only assume he is not actually dead.

The end of Putin would not represent the end of his legacy, by the way, there would still be a big faction of people in the Federation of Russia seeking to seize power and continue his ideas on Russian expansionism and alledged protection of Russian values.
Economy would recover a bit, but it will go down again once authoritarism goes on.

[be.open]

Also, body doubles don't have the same intelligence as the people they look like. That's why they are only good for performing stunts in movies.  

I think this is the key point. Putin regularly makes various statements in public, gives interviews, holds personal meetings, and writes articles. Some of his performances last more than four hours at a time. I don’t care how many doubles Putin has or whether they exist at all, as long as his teleprompter and speechwriter are of sound mind and sober memory.

More worrying should be in the United States, whose president can't always seem to remember his own name until he reads it on a cue card.

[Hispo]

Also, body doubles don't have the same intelligence as the people they look like. That's why they are only good for performing stunts in movies.  

I think this is the key point. Putin regularly makes various statements in public, gives interviews, holds personal meetings, and writes articles. Some of his performances last more than four hours at a time. I don’t care how many doubles Putin has or whether they exist at all, as long as his teleprompter and speechwriter are of sound mind and sober memory.

More worrying should be in the United States, whose president can't always seem to remember his own name until he reads it on a cue card.

I remember the little scandal about the cue cards. It seemed quite strange to me a president of his category would need to have those for a public event, I don't remember whether Obama had to use those during his public speeches or not, though.
Probably Biden indeed has some memory problems which does not allow him to remember details about the protocols he his supposed to follow in front of people, but I do not think he is suffering from some cognitive challenges as some claim.
Besides, people in the right says Biden is a crime family boss who has been able to get away with millions of dollars and cover his track of crimes to this day but also it is claimed he is demented and does not even know where he stands, I don't know about you, but those ideas sound mutually exclusive to me.

[Nerdy doctor]

I don’t know about the credibility of the news about Putin’s alleged death. There were news about him having a heart attack but no news about it being life threatening. But assuming it’s true and a body double has actually replaced him as the head of the nation, then you can be sure things would remain as the status quo.
The stand in Putin would obviously be a puppet to some powerful people and it wouldn’t change a thing in the worlds politics and economy.

[Jamestown70]

Vladimir Putin 71 is not dead as speculated by you or some news outlet, all this are just mere propaganda from the western powers, even if Vladimir is dead the economy of the world will continue o increase a man's death can never determine the economic outcome of this contemporary world.