Is energy prices about to shoot up?

[serveria.com]

Read your posts in other threads, about the unacceptable rise in gas prices and other nonsense, where you even cited some photos from the fence .
Let's start from the beginning. This topic, opened by respected pooya87, concerns the issue of hydrocarbons ... And then you suddenly "jump" from the topic, where as always you shit yourself, and instead of gas you cite information not about the EU, but about one country, where POSSIBLY, in the FUTURE year, will raise ... the cost of electricity

Yeah, says the person who is derailing all threads he participates in and posts his useless crap about "how bad Russia is doing" no matter what the subject is. You always refuse to acknowledge evidence. You never mention sources. A typical troll.

And you, in the above article, just read the headline, but did not read the article itself, as always
And the article says that if you don't like the tariffs of this provider... choose another one

What difference does it make if all tariffs are going up? You will end up paying more. 30 or 40% more but you will pay more than last year.

That should have been the end of it, but I will add: you cited a great article about the EU, except that you forgot to mention that the article talks about, and clearly states that this was happening.... early 2023 Accidentally forgot to note ? It's now the end of 2023, and you can find charts of EU prices at the current time. I have cited from several times for a reason, where indeed from spring 2022 to the first half of 2023, prices were high, for reasons known to all, and then.... the graphs go down.

At least I'm citing some articles, unlike you! When was last time you provided a source for your information? Mostly made-up "facts" with no sources and zero credibility. 

Bottom line: all your pathetic and primitive attempts to manipulate the data are easily verifiable, and cause nothing but laughter

Well that's really cool. You're having good time, laughing while your compatriots are dying in Donbas? Great success! BTW, when are you planning to join them, huh?

[DrBeer]

Read your posts in other threads, about the unacceptable rise in gas prices and other nonsense, where you even cited some photos from the fence .
Let's start from the beginning. This topic, opened by respected pooya87, concerns the issue of hydrocarbons ... And then you suddenly "jump" from the topic, where as always you shit yourself, and instead of gas you cite information not about the EU, but about one country, where POSSIBLY, in the FUTURE year, will raise ... the cost of electricity

Yeah, says the person who is derailing all threads he participates in and posts his useless crap about "how bad Russia is doing" no matter what the subject is. You always refuse to acknowledge evidence. You never mention sources. A typical troll.

And you, in the above article, just read the headline, but did not read the article itself, as always
And the article says that if you don't like the tariffs of this provider... choose another one

What difference does it make if all tariffs are going up? You will end up paying more. 30 or 40% more but you will pay more than last year.

That should have been the end of it, but I will add: you cited a great article about the EU, except that you forgot to mention that the article talks about, and clearly states that this was happening.... early 2023 Accidentally forgot to note ? It's now the end of 2023, and you can find charts of EU prices at the current time. I have cited from several times for a reason, where indeed from spring 2022 to the first half of 2023, prices were high, for reasons known to all, and then.... the graphs go down.

At least I'm citing some articles, unlike you! When was last time you provided a source for your information? Mostly made-up "facts" with no sources and zero credibility.  

Bottom line: all your pathetic and primitive attempts to manipulate the data are easily verifiable, and cause nothing but laughter

Well that's really cool. You're having good time, laughing while your compatriots are dying in Donbas? Great success! BTW, when are you planning to join them, huh?

 

1. "derailing all threads" ? Write honestly - he constantly plunges your face into shit, in front of everyone, with any of your pathetic attempts at manipulation and attempt at wishful thinking!

2. “Tariffs are still going up.” Look how petty and stupid you are now trying to convey the idea “energy prices will rise”, trying to sell everyone the idea - “the consumer will still pay more.”

Let me explain - the price of GAS is not rising as you would like (yes now there is a slight seasonal price increase), but falling. The price for the transportation service is raised by the service provider. But he is not alone, there are others who do not raise. In your opinion, if there is 100% inflation in the country, gas before inflation cost $100, after inflation $100, but in local currency the consumer pays 2 times more for gas - does this indicate an increase in energy prices!? ))))

3. You don’t quote articles, you copy-paste the headlines without even reading the article and without trying (or being unable) to understand the meaning and essence! I provide energy price charts from public platforms that anyone can check. Don't know how to use the Internet? Ok, here are the links!

https://ycharts.com/indicators/europe_natural_gas_price
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/eu-natural-gas

4. About laughter - I laugh at your stupidity. But even here you are trying to disgustingly manipulate, replacing laughter at your wretchedness, the tragedy that was caused in Ukraine in 2014 by RUSSIA, a terrorist country.

But let’s return to the topic of fuel prices, according to the quite reasonable request of the respected author of the topic !

OPEC+ once again tried to somehow solve the issue of cutting production, with an absolutely clear goal - to reduce supplies by increasing the price. Read about the market reaction:
“Oil is falling amid doubts that OPEC+ will further reduce production.
HOUSTON, Dec 4 (Reuters) - Oil prices fell on Monday on concerns about falling demand and ongoing uncertainty about the depth and duration of OPEC+ supply cuts.
Brent crude futures fell 85 cents, or 1.08%, to $78.03 a barrel. U.S. West Texas Intermediate crude futures closed down $1.03, or 1.39%, to $73.04.
Monday's drop adds to a 2% decline last week following supply cuts announced Thursday by the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) and its allies including Russia, collectively known as OPEC+.
I’m providing a link, since you’re not very good at searching the Internet
https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/oil-climbs-mideast-tension-back-focus-2023-12-04/

But the problem is that the OPEC+ reduction in production volume does not guarantee an increase in prices, although there is guaranteed to be a decrease in the income of OPEC+ participants

[pooya87]

But let’s return to the topic of fuel prices, according to the quite reasonable request of the respected author of the topic !

You say that and yet you are still off-topic
That's because you are still reading the title (not the topic content) and responding to the title. This is not about energy prices, this topic is about the effects of the conflict in Red Sea on energy prices! Since the topic is already derailed I won't bother with deleting anymore...

BTW the big supply cut by OPEC is going to start in first quarter of next year which means it won't affect the price until then.

[DrBeer]

But let’s return to the topic of fuel prices, according to the quite reasonable request of the respected author of the topic !

You say that and yet you are still off-topic
That's because you are still reading the title (not the topic content) and responding to the title. This is not about energy prices, this topic is about the effects of the conflict in Red Sea on energy prices! Since the topic is already derailed I won't bother with deleting anymore...

BTW the big supply cut by OPEC is going to start in first quarter of next year which means it won't affect the price until then.

I try to follow your recommendations and have already improved, as I think, the quality of answers

Well, at least it is already about the region, OPEC+, and about those whose oil goes by the specified route. 
It is the conflict in this region that affects regional suppliers, who are now trying to reduce their production levels in addition to the risks from the conflict. no matter how you look at it, some OPEC+ countries may be either dragged into this conflict or have direct negative consequences by being "on the border" where hostilities are taking place.


PS At the same time, it would be expected to see comments and other participants who write ABSOLUTELY not on the topic of the topic, not on the topic even close to the topic, or it somehow looks biased .

[pooya87]

I try to follow your recommendations and have already improved, as I think, the quality of answers

And I appreciate that.

PS At the same time, it would be expected to see comments and other participants who write ABSOLUTELY not on the topic of the topic, not on the topic even close to the topic, or it somehow looks biased .

I prefer to have the topic open and the discussion ongoing (hopefully about the topic) because the situation in Red Sea is changing and the tensions are still very high.
For example over the past 2 days we had another news regarding the USS Carney being attacked for the second time and 2 or 3 more Israeli vessels seized or attacked. Unfortunately the details are being censored by both sides for different reasons and they don't release much for me to post anything reliable about the situation and its possible effects.

For now it seems like US is desperately trying to avoid direct confrontation and instead start a proxy war. For example since US military could not do anything, instead the American organization called the UN World Food Program halted food aid to the war torn Yemen.
- On one hand this proxy war could be beneficial for US regime that wants to redirect its focus on continuation of genocide of Palestinians, fight a proxy war with Russia, counter expansion of China and of course the new war that is starting in South America.
- On the other hand if the regime succeeds in convincing its proxies to fight Yemen, it would be more devastating for energy prices and international trade. Because the proxies US regime is choosing is Saudi Arabia (oil rich) and Egypt (Suez Canal) and a couple of others in the region. These proxies are all illegitimate dictatorships that could fall if they cross certain red lines such as attacking Yemen since people of all these countries (despite the dictators) are standing with Palestine and those supporting Palestinians.

This is how complex the situation is right now and we still don't know which way the Red Sea region is going to go.

[DrBeer]

I try to follow your recommendations and have already improved, as I think, the quality of answers

And I appreciate that.

PS At the same time, it would be expected to see comments and other participants who write ABSOLUTELY not on the topic of the topic, not on the topic even close to the topic, or it somehow looks biased .

I prefer to have the topic open and the discussion ongoing (hopefully about the topic) because the situation in Red Sea is changing and the tensions are still very high.
For example over the past 2 days we had another news regarding the USS Carney being attacked for the second time and 2 or 3 more Israeli vessels seized or attacked. Unfortunately the details are being censored by both sides for different reasons and they don't release much for me to post anything reliable about the situation and its possible effects.

For now it seems like US is desperately trying to avoid direct confrontation and instead start a proxy war. For example since US military could not do anything, instead the American organization called the UN World Food Program halted food aid to the war torn Yemen.
- On one hand this proxy war could be beneficial for US regime that wants to redirect its focus on continuation of genocide of Palestinians, fight a proxy war with Russia, counter expansion of China and of course the new war that is starting in South America.
- On the other hand if the regime succeeds in convincing its proxies to fight Yemen, it would be more devastating for energy prices and international trade. Because the proxies US regime is choosing is Saudi Arabia (oil rich) and Egypt (Suez Canal) and a couple of others in the region. These proxies are all illegitimate dictatorships that could fall if they cross certain red lines such as attacking Yemen since people of all these countries (despite the dictators) are standing with Palestine and those supporting Palestinians.

This is how complex the situation is right now and we still don't know which way the Red Sea region is going to go.

War is not really beneficial to the direct participants of a potential conflict - it means casualties, destruction of both the country and the economy. Moreover, the world has not yet fully recovered from Covid and 2022. The only benefit is the behind-the-scenes, which provokes others to become a trigger or give an excuse. The U.S., playing the role of "world policeman", is forced to spend energy and resources on solving problems, and in this potential global conflict as well. And it is logical that they do not want full-fledged hostilities in the region, as it will lead to additional difficulties for their partners in the region.

"fight a proxy war with Russia, counter expansion of China" - you are right here, the "hand of the Kremlin" can be traced in igniting another Middle East fire, I agree. Regarding China, there are doubts.  China is not in a position to worsen relations with the US. And if before the last meeting China pretended to be neutral, although it did not impose bans on the supply of arms and dual-use technologies to its "sponsors", now China's rhetoric has changed, and China is forced to compromise with the U.S., and accordingly, in this conflict, China is very unlikely to be on the side of Hamas.

[pooya87]

you are right here, the "hand of the Kremlin" can be traced in igniting another Middle East fire, I agree. 

Just because some others like Russia benefit from certain actions in another region (anywhere not just West Asia) that doesn't mean they always have a hand in it. For example in case of Palestine, the 75 years of nonstop genocide led to many conflicts between Palestinians and those who want to kill them all, that includes the current ongoing conflict.
Same with Yemen, 9 years of being bombed and having whatever they have destroyed which caused the biggest humanitarian crisis (even worse than Gaza) has led to the current conflict they have with United States.

[DrBeer]

you are right here, the "hand of the Kremlin" can be traced in igniting another Middle East fire, I agree. 

Just because some others like Russia benefit from certain actions in another region (anywhere not just West Asia) that doesn't mean they always have a hand in it. For example in case of Palestine, the 75 years of nonstop genocide led to many conflicts between Palestinians and those who want to kill them all, that includes the current ongoing conflict.
Same with Yemen, 9 years of being bombed and having whatever they have destroyed which caused the biggest humanitarian crisis (even worse than Gaza) has led to the current conflict they have with United States.

I partly agree. Sometimes it happens that third-party participants can receive unexpected benefits as a result of some kind of conflict. For example, like the United States - after Russia unleashed a terrorist war in Ukraine in 2014/2022, the US military-industrial complex received a lot of government orders to provide the Armed Forces of Ukraine with weapons to fight Russian terrorists.
If we talk about the massacre that Hamas has tripled in Israel, the picture is somewhat different. One of the “directors” of this was Russia, which has already been proven, although not by direct participation, but by financing, consultations, and intelligence assistance. And the goal of this “project” was to destabilize the Middle East by disrupting oil supplies to the world market, hiding behind Hamas and other proxies. After all, there were expectations that neighbors would get involved in this massacre, including Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and other countries that significantly influence the oil market.

[bitgolden]

Just because some others like Russia benefit from certain actions in another region (anywhere not just West Asia) that doesn't mean they always have a hand in it. For example in case of Palestine, the 75 years of nonstop genocide led to many conflicts between Palestinians and those who want to kill them all, that includes the current ongoing conflict.
Same with Yemen, 9 years of being bombed and having whatever they have destroyed which caused the biggest humanitarian crisis (even worse than Gaza) has led to the current conflict they have with United States.

I partly agree. Sometimes it happens that third-party participants can receive unexpected benefits as a result of some kind of conflict. For example, like the United States - after Russia unleashed a terrorist war in Ukraine in 2014/2022, the US military-industrial complex received a lot of government orders to provide the Armed Forces of Ukraine with weapons to fight Russian terrorists.
If we talk about the massacre that Hamas has tripled in Israel, the picture is somewhat different. One of the “directors” of this was Russia, which has already been proven, although not by direct participation, but by financing, consultations, and intelligence assistance. And the goal of this “project” was to destabilize the Middle East by disrupting oil supplies to the world market, hiding behind Hamas and other proxies. After all, there were expectations that neighbors would get involved in this massacre, including Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and other countries that significantly influence the oil market.

Considering some of the biggest exporters of oil is not Palestine or Israel, I am not entirely sure how Russia paying Hamas would end up making USA have expensive gas prices.

It's clear that the gas prices at USA is high for two main reasons, one is the fact that they are not getting it from Russia anymore, so they are forced to wherever they could, and two.. well inflation is real for every nation in the world not just USA, we all pay a lot more for everything, a simple bread is higher too, a bottle of water is higher too, prices of things do not stay the same after hyperinflation, and that's what happened when USA decided to print nearly 4 trillion dollars, and not like they are ruined neither, even after printing that much money USA is still richest nation in the world, so it wasn't really a big deal, sure prices of gas went up, but now everyone can afford that, or at least lets say most people.

I think USA should ignore what's going on there, they are doing fine on their own, let people do whatever to each other, USA can stay strong without Ukraine or Israel anyway, help or no help.

[serveria.com]

Considering some of the biggest exporters of oil is not Palestine or Israel, I am not entirely sure how Russia paying Hamas would end up making USA have expensive gas prices.

It's clear that the gas prices at USA is high for two main reasons, one is the fact that they are not getting it from Russia anymore, so they are forced to wherever they could, and two.. well inflation is real for every nation in the world not just USA, we all pay a lot more for everything, a simple bread is higher too, a bottle of water is higher too, prices of things do not stay the same after hyperinflation, and that's what happened when USA decided to print nearly 4 trillion dollars, and not like they are ruined neither, even after printing that much money USA is still richest nation in the world, so it wasn't really a big deal, sure prices of gas went up, but now everyone can afford that, or at least lets say most people.

Basically the US are taking this missing oil from reserves. Unfortunately, the reserves are not unlimited (they have already reached the absolute low) so sooner rather than later they will need to resume buying. It's the waiting game, but as well as with the sanctions, they have no chance. It's absolutely useless and is not going to stop Russia. Already now, Ukrainians admit the amount of weapons they are receiving from the West is 3x less Russia is producing and providing to their military. Foreign aid has dropped 90% and reached the lowest since 2022.

I think USA should ignore what's going on there, they are doing fine on their own, let people do whatever to each other, USA can stay strong without Ukraine or Israel anyway, help or no help.

Yes, I fully agree. They should forget that "world policeman" crap and start minding their own business, take care of their people etc. I think that post-Biden America is going to do exactly that.



 

[STT]

Oil is in decline I've been reading recently, OPEC is trying to suggest lower supply will be the case but market perceives lower prices are correct.  Since thats the bulk of energy it would usually indicate we dont see especially high prices this winter perhaps.  Also Dollar index is rising again today and has often risen over the whole range of time frames, it would seem high energy cost is not yet here or indicated.
  Generally I do think energy can rise alongside many commodities but not in a simple way.  Another big indicator is the growth of China which is not simply up yet either, its not negative despite some wars it could be worse and thats another big factor often spiking prices.

[pooya87]

Considering some of the biggest exporters of oil is not Palestine or Israel, I am not entirely sure how Russia paying Hamas would end up making USA have expensive gas prices.

The genocide Israel is committing in Palestine with the help of United States has nothing to do with Russia but @DrBeer has a way of derailing every topic and tying it up with Russia.

Oil is in decline I've been reading recently, OPEC is trying to suggest lower supply will be the case but market perceives lower prices are correct.

They are not trying to suggest it, they already decided in their last meeting to cut the supply by a large amount (2.2 million barrels per day) but the supply cut will start next year and they will continue supplying like before until then (that should be about a month or two).
If nothing changes, this cut would probably bring price up closer to $90 again, but I don't think it can do much more than that.

[Ultegra134]

They are not trying to suggest it, they already decided in their last meeting to cut the supply by a large amount (2.2 million barrels per day) but the supply cut will start next year and they will continue supplying like before until then (that should be about a month or two).
If nothing changes, this cut would probably bring price up closer to $90 again, but I don't think it can do much more than that.

That's absolute bollocks; there's pure manipulation of oil prices. There's a great demand for oil; if the supply is limited by this much, it'll send fuel prices to the moon once again. They're still high; imagine what will happen when the supply cut takes place. I believe that after the Ukraine-Russian war and the sanctions against Russia, we're doomed to a vicious circle of higher fuel and energy prices that will never recover ever again. Only the US is profiting from this war, as it's currently our main supplier for oil and especially CNG.

I was hoping that fuel prices would eventually recover, at least to a reasonable extent. The average petrol price here is €1.85 per liter; that is still insanely expensive and was a price that we'd see towards the end of the tourist season; now it has become the norm, and no one seems to be complaining about it. On the contrary, we seem to be thankful for not paying €2 per liter.

[Unbunplease]

Oil is in decline I've been reading recently, OPEC is trying to suggest lower supply will be the case but market perceives lower prices are correct.  Since thats the bulk of energy it would usually indicate we dont see especially high prices this winter perhaps.  Also Dollar index is rising again today and has often risen over the whole range of time frames, it would seem high energy cost is not yet here or indicated.
  Generally I do think energy can rise alongside many commodities but not in a simple way.  Another big indicator is the growth of China which is not simply up yet either, its not negative despite some wars it could be worse and thats another big factor often spiking prices.

I assume that from January 2024 the dollar index will already start to fall. Oil prices are dictated by a cartel consisting of major player countries, which can calmly control the price by reducing or increasing production. And one should not be happy about a temporary decrease - ordinary people will always be the losers

[itorai]

Honestly , I really hope they won't because things in my country are already way to expensive for most of our citizens. Another rise in energy prices would simply bring people out in the streets but I'm sure that won't change anything because we will not be the only ones affected by this. On the other side , the war Ukraine - Russia already made Romanian prices to go up in all sectors so I really hope the conflict from Israel and Hamas would not have the same effect and I do hope a solution will be available for the world soon.

Regarding energy prices, I think it is difficult to predict with certainty, but the Ukraine-Russia war has indeed affected prices in various countries and I hope that the conflict between Israel and Hamas will not make things worse.

[pooya87]

That's absolute bollocks; there's pure manipulation of oil prices. There's a great demand for oil; if the supply is limited by this much, it'll send fuel prices to the moon once again. They're still high; imagine what will happen when the supply cut takes place. I believe that after the Ukraine-Russian war and the sanctions against Russia, we're doomed to a vicious circle of higher fuel and energy prices that will never recover ever again.

That's unfortunately true. I consider this the World War 3 which is being fought in different "battle fields" one of which is the energy field which means energy prices are going to be used as a weapon and that hurts regular people.
The other battle fields are economy, food, water, other natural resources and of course the armed conflict going on in 3 locations: Eastern Europe, West Asia, North of South America.

One of the reasons why the current conflict reached the Red Sea is exactly that. US and NATO support genocide of Palestinians and NATO countries needs lower energy prices so the tensions in energy routes increase as a response to put pressure on NATO to stop supporting terrorism and genocide.

Only the US is profiting from this war, as it's currently our main supplier for oil and especially CNG.

It wasn't all profit though, basically only the giants in energy sector reaped the rewards, otherwise the high energy price also led to increased inflation inside US which they suppressed by increasing the interest rate which then led to recession.
Not to mention the trillions the government had to print over the past 2 years reaching the debt ceiling twice in a row and setting an unprecedented national debt.
The first signs were the increased number of lay-offs and banks and tech sector that went bankrupt.

[umbara ardian]

As the global economy weathers the storm of inflation, a harsh reality emerges: the cost of energy, an essential lifeblood, has climbed to unprecedented heights. This confluence of economic turbulence and soaring energy prices presents a complex challenge, demanding not just acknowledgement but a deeper understanding and reasoned response.

Inflation, like a rising tide, lifts the price of everything, inevitably impacting energy consumption. The economic law of demand and supply dictates that higher prices lead to lower demand, and this applies to energy as well. Consumers, struggling with inflated living costs, may be forced to curtail their energy usage, impacting industries and businesses reliant on consistent consumption.

However, accepting this situation as an inevitable consequence would be short-sighted. While the immediate impact of inflation on energy prices is undeniable, we must also recognize the potential for positive change. This crisis can act as a catalyst for innovation and a shift towards sustainable energy solutions.

[Obari]

I assume that from January 2024 the dollar index will already start to fall. Oil prices are dictated by a cartel consisting of major player countries, which can calmly control the price by reducing or increasing production. And one should not be happy about a temporary decrease - ordinary people will always be the losers

The oil prices contains enough volatility and there's not so much revenue to be generated. Everyone is after the profits he or she stands to gain from the system, it doesn't matter if the country oil is not moving according to plans or stratified methods, rather it goes prior to our reasonings. You only spotted out your initiatives concerning the energy prices and as you well know, we all have our different opinions and bringing it up here is very welcoming, I know alot of people from the forum will benefits from your idea, I'm not excluded also because I've thoroughly gone through and I must say, it's worth it.

[DrBeer]

I’ll return to the issue of “selective moderation” again

I agree with my answer to the topic participant’s question (see screenshot below), it goes somewhat beyond the ideal match with the author’s expectations. But the question itself from another student is far from the truth.

Request to the topic author:
- or not openly show your selectivity and duplicity in the “struggle to follow the rules”
- or then delete ALL posts that are off topic.
- or be honest, at least to yourself, and honestly write - “I don’t like your opinion, I don’t want to hear it, but I want to hear only those opinions that I like. That’s why I will delete your posts and those that I like, although not relevant to the topic, I will leave it to please my feelings"
- or also write honestly - I have no arguments, I’m afraid to answer you, I don’t have enough knowledge, so I will hide your posts, they are inconvenient and infuriating to me, because... I am helpless to answer them. Believe me, after you honestly voice the reasons, I will stop writing even a word in your topics Just don’t go back to the tales about “inexact matching of the topic,” okay? Looks very cowardly and stupid
 
Looks very cowardly and stupid

[serveria.com]

I’ll return to the issue of “selective moderation” again

I agree with my answer to the topic participant’s question (see screenshot below), it goes somewhat beyond the ideal match with the author’s expectations. But the question itself from another student is far from the truth.

Request to the topic author:
- or not openly show your selectivity and duplicity in the “struggle to follow the rules”
- or then delete ALL posts that are off topic.
- or be honest, at least to yourself, and honestly write - “I don’t like your opinion, I don’t want to hear it, but I want to hear only those opinions that I like. That’s why I will delete your posts and those that I like, although not relevant to the topic, I will leave it to please my feelings"
- or also write honestly - I have no arguments, I’m afraid to answer you, I don’t have enough knowledge, so I will hide your posts, they are inconvenient and infuriating to me, because... I am helpless to answer them. Believe me, after you honestly voice the reasons, I will stop writing even a word in your topics Just don’t go back to the tales about “inexact matching of the topic,” okay? Looks very cowardly and stupid
 
Looks very cowardly and stupid

Muahahahaha I had a good laugh, Mr Troll! You should be the last one to whine about "selective moderation" or should I remind you how you cowardly deleted all my comments full of facts, valid sources and quotes from all threads started by you? I wasn't even breaking any rules, I was just asking inconvenient questions and exposing you as a complete lying bozo! pooya87 is in fact very lenient as he generously still allows you to post your bs comments here (although they mostly have nothing to do with the topic we're discussing here).

So yeah, indeed, it looks very cowardly and stupid