Send hospital ships to Gaza

[jrrsparkles]

This is not a pro-Israeli or pro-Palestinian post, this is a pro-humanitarian post.

That is the right thing to do but which country is going to do that? Many countries openly support what Israel is doing is right and they refuse to allow even small groups and warned this will trigger wars into other borders so everyone keeps their mouth shut and only innocent people in social media is trying to show what people in Gaza going through for someone's mistake.

The war supposed not take too long and the way we are seeing it, is like the Hamas are using the Palestine people to fight this war. They would hide there ammunitions in residential areas where people are living and sending rockets from there against the Israelites which is totally condemned.

The suffering that is inflicted on the Palestine people are caused by the Hamas. Medical services, food and other humanitarians supports are being sent to Gaza but sometimes they are hijacked by the Hamas which is what the Israelite government is fighting against.

WTF?

I don't know which channel is telecasting such information but this is nothing but just bullshit.

Even if Hamas uses people as human shields killing them isn't the right thing, will this approach be accepted if the same thing happened in Western countries like hijacking people and requesting money then what government will do is start negotiating with the people who hijacked not kill them even if the hijacked people is at the risk.

Why do we see such double standards? Are people becoming dumber day by day?

[348Judah]

This is not a pro-Israeli or pro-Palestinian post, this is a pro-humanitarian post. I am not taking a party and what I write here is just a practical concern on people, whoever they are. In the current situation, medical facilities in Gaza cannot deliver the services that people who are ill or injured require. Israel is unlikely to allow a flow of medical supplies since these could potentially be used by Hamas (I am not here to judge how good this argument is).

There is however no reason why hospital ships could not be used to care for children, pregnant women, old people and others that require special attention. Even men and women in general.

In situations like this, it's the sole responsibility of the US and sometimes joined by the EU to support situations like this, they can make mobilization to help in this critical condition with every necessary support they needed and this doesn't have to come with conditions attached as long as there's a circular memorandum of understanding for that, alot of people were suffering for this already and this is human lives we are talking about and not animals or alliens.

[Hispo]

I am not completely sure whether this is the proper thread to post about this, but I guess it will be fine.
Today during some of my spare time I decided to check what was new on Twitter/X, and I noticed there was some trending by the name of "Burning Gaza", I did some research and this is what I found about it: It seems some person in a position of authority within the Israel government is calling for a more aggressive approach against the people of Gaza/Hamas (I cannot tell who is talking about), the outrageous thing is he considers the government of Israel is being "too humane" in this war, because people is worried about internet access instead of their own life. It is a very fresh news and his post on Twitter has been censored a bit (not completely), so do not expect media to talk about this, it just happened some hours ago.

Imagine being in a position of power and at the same time calling for more violence and suffering to happen because you don't like any gesture of humane behavior.

Deputy Knesset speaker calls for burning Gaza

Source: https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/deputy-knesset-speaker-calls-for-burning-gaza/

A far-right Likud MK who also serves as deputy speaker of the Knesset calls for burning down Gaza.

“All of this preoccupation with whether or not there is internet in Gaza shows that we have learned nothing. We are too humane. Burn Gaza now no less!” Nissim Vaturi tweets after the war cabinet approved the entry of two trucks of fuel per day to prevent the collapse of the sewage treatment system, which risked a mass-disease outbreak.

“Don’t allow fuel in, don’t allow water in until the hostages are returned back!” he adds.

[Popkon6]

I am not here to judge but one argument is that the residents of Gaza are the most oppressed by Israeli forces. Because if I want to say that medical marijuana has rendered the residents useless because the hospitals have been attacked and destroyed by the Israeli forces. Palestinians are crying out for medical treatment as many children and the elderly are the worst affected. But I want to say of course that children and the elderly need to be treated, Palestinians need to be protected from such oppression. Because the Western powers are giving power to Israel, the Israeli forces are invading Palestine.

[pooya87]

The most annoying part of this situation is that the claim that al-Shifa Hospital is been used by Hamas and that it houses a network of tunnels has not been proven. I thought we would have seen this evidence in the media but what was shown made this claim look more unreal. Israel has just been able to showcase a few AK assault rifles, laptops, and other irrelevant materials such as anti-rust spray. I began to wonder if it was because of these military hardware that many people were killed and about 7,000 patients, women, and children have been allowed to die of thirst and hunger. Even if it might be alleged that Hamas soldiers escaped with the arms and other military equipment, did they also move with the network of tunnels under the hospital?

At this point the propaganda machine of the Zionist regime is broken so it is releasing stupider and stupider propagandas.
To think that once it took months or years to debunk their propaganda for good, now all it takes is seconds. People on social media are already making jokes about their stupidity.

In these macabre times let me post some of their stupid claims for some smiles.
The video was a joke altogether. In this part you see this IDF terrorist standing in the middle of the hospital after having murdered countless unarmed civilians, pointing to random stuff claiming these are proof that "Hamas was in the hospital". For example here he is pointing to a camera as if no hospital in the world ever had a camera in it!


Even funnier was when the idiots forgot that this is 2023, everyone has a smart phone and they are posting everything 24/7. The following picture shows the IDF terrorists before they entered Al-Shifa hospital to start filming the propaganda. You can see them carrying boxes from their vehicles into the hospital not being aware that people are watching or putting "medical supply" on a box doesn't fool anybody.
We later learn that these boxes that came out of their vehicles contained the "military equipment" they claim belonged to Hamas and were already in the hospital


The stupidest part of course was the equipment itself, for example the boots they claim belongs to Hamas is the same exact boots the IDF terrorist is wearing and not to mention they are brand new with nary a dust on them

It seems some person in a position of authority within the Israel government is calling for a more aggressive approach against the people of Gaza/Hamas (I cannot tell who is talking about),

This is not the first time. So far at least half a dozen members of the Israel Knesset have said that they must drop a nuclear bomb on Gaza. It is worth adding that this terrorist organization has refused joining NPT and has never allowed IAEA from visiting their nuclear facilities. They have unmonitored number of WMDs and have always been openly threatening many countries with nuclear strike.

[Coojhb]

Thanks to social media we now have some insight that what's really happening inside Gaza. CNN, BBC, Sky news are just proxies of Israel and they help Israel in establishing its narrative globally. Israel is now killing the social media activists and there families for showing real face of Israel to world.
The news coming from Gaza are disturbing. Imagine how life will be there without shelter, food, water, electricity and medicine.

Even funnier was when the idiots forgot that this is 2023, everyone has a smart phone and they are posting everything 24/7. The following picture shows the IDF terrorists before they entered Al-Shifa hospital to start filming the propaganda. You can see them carrying boxes from their vehicles into the hospital not being aware that people are watching or putting "medical supply" on a box doesn't fool anybody.

There is nothing funny in all this my friend. Its a shame for entire humanity that Israel raiding and bombing a hospital openly and no one is stopping that act. Al Shifa hospital is biggest hospital of Gaza and through social media I came to know that Israel bombed that hospital while it was full of patients.
We all know that Israel is lying but still no one is willing to stop this genocide.
There is scarcity of food,water, medicine infact every necessity of life is short in Gaza. Just image how people will be living lives there.

[Hispo]

The most annoying part of this situation is that the claim that al-Shifa Hospital is been used by Hamas and that it houses a network of tunnels has not been proven. I thought we would have seen this evidence in the media but what was shown made this claim look more unreal. Israel has just been able to showcase a few AK assault rifles, laptops, and other irrelevant materials such as anti-rust spray. I began to wonder if it was because of these military hardware that many people were killed and about 7,000 patients, women, and children have been allowed to die of thirst and hunger. Even if it might be alleged that Hamas soldiers escaped with the arms and other military equipment, did they also move with the network of tunnels under the hospital?

At this point the propaganda machine of the Zionist regime is broken so it is releasing stupider and stupider propagandas.
To think that once it took months or years to debunk their propaganda for good, now all it takes is seconds. People on social media are already making jokes about their stupidity.

In these macabre times let me post some of their stupid claims for some smiles.
The video was a joke altogether. In this part you see this IDF terrorist standing in the middle of the hospital after having murdered countless unarmed civilians, pointing to random stuff claiming these are proof that "Hamas was in the hospital". For example here he is pointing to a camera as if no hospital in the world ever had a camera in it!


Even funnier was when the idiots forgot that this is 2023, everyone has a smart phone and they are posting everything 24/7. The following picture shows the IDF terrorists before they entered Al-Shifa hospital to start filming the propaganda. You can see them carrying boxes from their vehicles into the hospital not being aware that people are watching or putting "medical supply" on a box doesn't fool anybody.
We later learn that these boxes that came out of their vehicles contained the "military equipment" they claim belonged to Hamas and were already in the hospital


The stupidest part of course was the equipment itself, for example the boots they claim belongs to Hamas is the same exact boots the IDF terrorist is wearing and not to mention they are brand new with nary a dust on them

It seems some person in a position of authority within the Israel government is calling for a more aggressive approach against the people of Gaza/Hamas (I cannot tell who is talking about),

This is not the first time. So far at least half a dozen members of the Israel Knesset have said that they must drop a nuclear bomb on Gaza. It is worth adding that this terrorist organization has refused joining NPT and has never allowed IAEA from visiting their nuclear facilities. They have unmonitored number of WMDs and have always been openly threatening many countries with nuclear strike.

But assuming they actually considered to use a weapon of massive destruction against the people of Gaza, because if the uncontrolled nature of those kinds of bombs, it would not also mean a significant number of casualties in their own country (specially those towns which are in the surroundings of the Gaza Strip?.
Also, I was aware Israel is a country which claims to have a nuclear program but yet, even if those programs existed, it would be quite difficult from keep them hidden from the scrutiny of allied and foe intelligence agencies, so either the United States allows Israel to irresponsibly hold nuclear Weapons or they have chosen not to keep a register of those programs and the real amount of nuclear warheads within Israel.

[pooya87]

But assuming they actually considered to use a weapon of massive destruction against the people of Gaza, because if the uncontrolled nature of those kinds of bombs, it would not also mean a significant number of casualties in their own country (specially those towns which are in the surroundings of the Gaza Strip?.

Nukes in the conventional sense have a much larger area of effect than just Gaza but there are so many different _nuclear munitions_ that have a variety of impacts. For example US used nuclear munitions in Iraq that is still causing numerous sicknesses in people of certain cities and the children that are born there.

Also, I was aware Israel is a country which claims to have a nuclear program but yet, even if those programs existed, it would be quite difficult from keep them hidden from the scrutiny of allied and foe intelligence agencies, so either the United States allows Israel to irresponsibly hold nuclear Weapons or they have chosen not to keep a register of those programs and the real amount of nuclear warheads within Israel.

Israel is a rabid dog that goes rogue and bites its owner (US) from time to time. That is why US as the owner of this proxy has been preventing the international organizations like IAEA from even mentioning the nuclear weapon program of them. And is also why as we speak US military (I believe the Delta Force) are in Dimona nuclear weapons facility in Negev Desert trying to both prevent the Israeli terrorists from using it and also prevent the Palestinian freedom fighters from taking control of it.

[Coojhb]

While IDF busy showing proofs of hamas in Al Shifa hospital. All patients in ICU of Al Shifa died because of no electricity. This news came through social media activists working inside Gaza.BBC, CNN or any of there allies news channel don't bother to share this news.

Its GAZA social media activists that are reporting actual ground reports and also unveiling hypocrisy of BBC, CNN and other Western news agencies.

[mikeywith]

The war supposed not take too long and the way we are seeing it, is like the Hamas are using the Palestine people to fight this war. They would hide there ammunitions in residential areas where people are living and sending rockets from there against the Israelites which is totally condemned.

Gaza strip is 25 miles (North-South) and as narrow as 3.7 miles in some places (West - East), with a population of over 2 million people, it's not like Hamas the luxury of building large military bases 500 miles away from the nearest residential area, regardless of where you store a rocket it will always be a short distance from the nearest hospital, building, if the IDF wants to fight Hamas alone they should let the civilians into Israel until the war is over,  Israel is over 22,000 km² large with a small population of <10 million, so there is plenty of room.

The suffering that is inflicted on the Palestine people are caused by the Hamas. Medical services, food and other humanitarians supports are being sent to Gaza but sometimes they are hijacked by the Hamas

Do you have any evidence of this stupid claim? of course not, you are just repeating what the legacy Western media is telling you, they are counting on your ignorance and inability to seek the truth -- which seems to be working perfectly fine for them given that some people like yourself are not only buying the b.s but spreading further.

[pooya87]

Gaza strip is 25 miles (North-South) and as narrow as 3.7 miles in some places (West - East), with a population of over 2 million people, it's not like Hamas the luxury of building large military bases 500 miles away from the nearest residential area, regardless of where you store a rocket it will always be a short distance from the nearest hospital, building,

That is why all of their ammunition is stored in a way to be impossible to be hit by the enemy.

You see, this is not the first time the apartheid regime slaughters Palestinians by bombing them with heavy missiles. Hamas, as the defenders of Palestine, have been building a complex and impenetrable tunnel system underneath occupied/Palestine all these years during all their battles with the invaders.
These tunnels are at 60 meters deep with different depths and widths. Some small for only a person to pass and some wide for vehicles to pass. All of them are reinforced against heaviest bombs. In other words even bunker busters won't work on these.

That means no matter how hard the Zionist terrorists attack Gaza they won't be able to destroy any of the resistance ammunition.
This is clear from the fact that despite all the bombardment of Gaza the rocket and missile attacks against the invaders has never stopped.

The only reason why the terrorist organization Israel keeps killing civilians is two things:
1. They hoped by killing civilians they can turn them against their defenders (Hamas) but it failed.
2. They want to wipe out Palestinians entirely. That is the ethnic cleansing that's been going on for decades.

if the IDF wants to fight Hamas alone they should let the civilians into Israel until the war is over,  Israel is over 22,000 km² large with a small population of <10 million, so there is plenty of room.

They don't want to fight Hamas, they don't even have the strength to fight Hamas. 300+ Merkava tanks and hundreds of armored vehicles and dozers, the dozens of aircraft including a F16 they lost on top of the estimated 3000-4000 Zionist, US, UK and French troops that were eliminated is the clear indication of their lack of strength.

Besides, the only goal of the apartheid regime is to finish the genocide they started 70 years ago and kill all Palestinians so that they can continue with their expansion into Egypt, Jordan and other neighbor countries and finally start their world domination plans.

[Coojhb]

I was curious that what will be the fate of those kids who survived bombings of Israel and its trough Gaza social media activist who told me about that. The whole Gaza is like a family, if they found a kid from a neighbor whose whole family is martyred they adopt him and in case they don’t know who the kid is they name it and keep the kid as there child.
Israel is also keen in targeting children because they know kids of Gaza don’t forget and don’t forgive. They will definatly come after Israel once they grow up and this is how freedom moments in Gaza are getting new members.
Thousands of kids are killed so far and news agencies like DW and VOA are showing 10 or 20 kids that are shifted to Egypt or Turkey hospitals. They are just trying to tell that its a war between two equal powers.

You see, this is not the first time the apartheid regime slaughters Palestinians by bombing them with heavy missiles. Hamas, as the defenders of Palestine, have been building a complex and impenetrable tunnel system underneath occupied/Palestine all these years during all their battles with the invaders.
These tunnels are at 60 meters deep with different depths and widths. Some small for only a person to pass and some wide for vehicles to pass. All of them are reinforced against heaviest bombs. In other words even bunker busters won't work on these.

Its painful to see how Arab countries including Hizabullah and Iran have left Gaza at mercy of Israel. Hamas may be underground and safe but the price is payed by innocent civilians. Its raining now in Gaza and winter is coming. In such weather Israel is destroying buildings and asking civilians to move to north and now in south. Don't know when Hamas will retaliate, when whole Gaza will be destroyed and no one is left on Gaza.
Having said that its not about Hamas nor about hostages. Israel just wanted to take this piece of land for 'Ben Gurion Canal Project' or moving further towards Egypt and Jordan.

[pooya87]

Its painful to see how Arab countries including Hizabullah and Iran have left Gaza at mercy of Israel.

You mean except Iran and its allies. Hezbollah alone has already dropped at least 1000 missiles on Israeli positions and that's according to Israeli sources, in reality it is much higher. If you follow their channels there is daily updates. This is one example of their operation yesterday: https://www.aparat.com/v/Xd8DK

As for Iran, I don't even have to explain. It is the most obvious thing that Iran is the only country that has truly supported the Palestinian cause ever since the revolution on 1979. Back then the Palestinians were using stones to counter the invaders' tanks, today they use Yasin-105 to blow up over 300 of them like a piece of cake.
If you were expecting Iran to launch a ground attack at this stage, it is not gonna happen because it will start WW3.

If you want to direct any blame then look to Turkey that is still supplying fuel and goods to Israel helping them bomb children in Gaza. Look to UAE and Saudi Arabia that are constantly sending weapons shipment to Israel to be used for genocide. Look to Jordan, Egypt and Saudi that are providing air defense for the apartheid regime each time Yemen attacks their positions.
https://www.talkimg.com/image/F5yMq

[Coojhb]

You mean except Iran and its allies. Hezbollah alone has already dropped at least 1000 missiles on Israeli positions and that's according to Israeli sources, in reality it is much higher. If you follow their channels there is daily updates. This is one example of their operation yesterday: https://www.aparat.com/v/Xd8DK

As for Iran, I don't even have to explain. It is the most obvious thing that Iran is the only country that has truly supported the Palestinian cause ever since the revolution on 1979. Back then the Palestinians were using stones to counter the invaders' tanks, today they use Yasin-105 to blow up over 300 of them like a piece of cake.
If you were expecting Iran to launch a ground attack at this stage, it is not gonna happen because it will start WW3.

I saw few videos on social media and there were evidence that lots of Israeli tanks are destroyed by local freedom fighters i.e. Hamas using RPG's. The irony is that media is with USA and Israel they are telling just one side of the story.
If there were countries that are actually helping Palestine freedom moment we wont be seeing this genocide of local Palestine people.  
Lets hope what you are saying is true and there is some real help going to local people.

If you want to direct any blame then look to Turkey that is still supplying fuel and goods to Israel helping them bomb children in Gaza. Look to UAE and Saudi Arabia that are constantly sending weapons shipment to Israel to be used for genocide. Look to Jordan, Egypt and Saudi that are providing air defense for the apartheid regime each time Yemen attacks their positions.
https://www.talkimg.com/image/F5yMq

Only a fool will expect that Saudi crown prince MBS will do something for people of Gaza. All Saudis king are puppets of USA but MBS has crossed all limits of pleasing USA. They are still anxious to accept Israel and start bilateral trade. MBS has strange mind that making friendship with everyone will make them more secure. Saudi don't have courage to fight with anyone and soon someone will overthrow there monarchy.
Tayyab Erdogan is also fooling people of the world by leading protest rallies in his country. i already mentioend this brutality of Israel will not be possible without support of Muslim countries that include Jordan, Egypt also.

[Popkon6]

Israel is never going to allow this, sadly. And the U.S. along with much of the west are turning a blind eye to brazen genocide. Israel is an occupying force for Gaza, having boxed in all of its civilians, controlling everything that goes in and out. They even control the maritime border Gaza has, effectively treating it as theirs. Gaza could surely use a ship hospital, but when Israel is bombing hospitals and refugee camps in the ground, I doubt they'd clear a ship for docking to gaza, hospital ship or anything...

It's a very dire situation sadly. What should happen is that there should be a ceasefire with immediate effect. But instead Israel keeps pounding Palestinian civilians with bombs.

This is what I find most saddening that a hospital in Palestine has been bombed. There were elderly people, children, pregnant women, etc., so the Israeli forces should not have bombed there. Dismissing many of the rules of war, Israeli forces launched a massive offensive against Gaza and Hamas forces. Bombing a hospital is a very reprehensible and despicable act to disrupt medical treatment. Now the war between the two countries should stop  possible because the most miserable lives are the residents of Hamas and Ganja places. Aid is not being allowed to come from any direction to the Palestinian land, so the Israeli forces are under great pressure. It is best that peace be restored between the two countries soon and the war ceases.