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November 12, 2023, 10:13:31 PM |
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reading previous posts, it looks like there are governments that require casinos by law to donate to organizations that deal with gambling addiction, but I am pretty sure not all governments require casinos by law to do that. anyway, if the casino decides to sponsor a site that deals with gambling addiction, it could be a good look for them. also, apart from that casinos should strengthen their gambling addiction preventive measures.
I like a government like that but are these governments still get their own tax? That will be a double expense then for the casino, but they can't do much about it if that is required to them. -snip pretty sure governments still tax casinos even if they require them by law to donate to charities, tax revenue from casinos is no joke, I doubt governments will pass the chance on getting money from casinos, especially on how big the revenue they bring in each year.
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November 13, 2023, 01:17:41 AM |
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If they have their own ways to help their gamblers deal with gambling addiction, there is no need for them to have that support or sponsor to the ones that deal with it just for them to show how helpful they are and concerned with their gamblers. pretty sure governments still tax casinos even if they require them by law to donate to charities, tax revenue from casinos is no joke, I doubt governments will pass the chance on getting money from casinos, especially on how big the revenue they bring in each year.
Yes, they're taxed despite knowing the logic and business process of casinos. They are making money off the taxes from the industry and that's why we see governments allowing the operations of the casinos in their cities. Because they add a lot of money to the fund of the city government. And for those places where they don't allow gambling, it's just for their citizens but they allow the foreigners to gamble because that's where they're taking money. But if there are casinos that do think with these advocacies to show their support, they're all free to do that in or off site because we don't even know what charities they're working with and what are the organizations that they're supporting because many of them are not vocal.
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November 13, 2023, 03:58:22 AM |
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reading previous posts, it looks like there are governments that require casinos by law to donate to organizations that deal with gambling addiction, but I am pretty sure not all governments require casinos by law to do that. anyway, if the casino decides to sponsor a site that deals with gambling addiction, it could be a good look for them. also, apart from that casinos should strengthen their gambling addiction preventive measures.
I like a government like that but are these governments still get their own tax? That will be a double expense then for the casino, but they can't do much about it if that is required to them. -snip pretty sure governments still tax casinos even if they require them by law to donate to charities, tax revenue from casinos is no joke, I doubt governments will pass the chance on getting money from casinos, especially on how big the revenue they bring in each year. So far I have never heard of any government officially asking casinos to donate a certain amount of money to organizations that treat gambling addiction, and I have never really known of any casinos that facilitate the rehabilitation of gambling addicts. As I have said before, the casino will have no obligation to help gamblers to recover from gambling addiction whether by paying certain organizations or anything, but this is really not the duty of the casino. If the government allows gambling and asks for income tax every month or every year, then the government has the right to provide rehabilitation services for gambling addiction, just like they have drug rehabilitation places.
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November 13, 2023, 04:54:16 AM |
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I'm just curious and would like to get the consensus of the community, should casinos sponsor sites that deal with gambling addiction and cure, we can't deny that the gambling addiction percentage is very high in this generation,
I just stumbled one site about gambling addiction it's a free help for those addicted to gambling, there are many more related sites and facilities. Do you think it is the obligation of casinos online or offline?
It is casinos' way to repay those who put in a lot of money and get addicted or they shouldn't care because it's the gamblers' initiative to play.
From my Own perspective ? it is not that "They Should" Instead it is "THEY MUST" I know that we need not to blame them of how gamblers turns addicted as those are decision of each gamblers but they are part of it. they are the one that made them turning addicted because if there is no gambling site/houses there will be no gambling addict. I may sounds wrong but Look at that and how it works , both parties has obligation from the addict and the gambling owners .
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November 18, 2023, 08:46:14 PM |
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I'm just curious and would like to get the consensus of the community, should casinos sponsor sites that deal with gambling addiction and cure, we can't deny that the gambling addiction percentage is very high in this generation,
I just stumbled one site about gambling addiction it's a free help for those addicted to gambling, there are many more related sites and facilities. Do you think it is the obligation of casinos online or offline?
It is casinos' way to repay those who put in a lot of money and get addicted or they shouldn't care because it's the gamblers' initiative to play.
The casino did not have a gun to your head and forced you to gamble. You choosed to gamble and if along the way you get addicted, it's your sole responsibility to fix yourself. It's not the obligation of the casino and that doesn't mean they cannot sponsor the treatment of gamblers in rehabs, they can but it should be at their own freewill. Even though people voluntarily get into gambling activities, it is the responsibility of the gambling platform to remind people of the possible negative effect of too much gambling. Since they are the one offering the service, the should be incline to give information about the possibility of gambling addiction and its dire effect on people. Aside from that, the government requires the casino platform to have a dedicated pages for this kind of information to remind gambling fanatics to moderate their gambling activities. Other even gives a pop up on how long a person had been playing. The regulation also includes the service of self-exclusion for the casino to implement. Even though it is a conflict of interest for the casinos, they have the obligation to make people aware of the consequences of too much gambling. This is only for what you want to support, I think that no one should feel pressured by these causes, because I think that all the casinos always do some works of charity that are much more worthwhile and more expensive, of course this would be a good thing Everyone would almost be committed to this, because they are people who are suffering under this hard cycle of life that they have to live, being addicted is not at all easy to cope with, because things are quite hard because they can lose much more than money, some get into trouble by lending money, others borrow money from banks and spend it in the casino, and in the end what this brings is pure problems and that is what they can cope with, some of these problems are left to their own devices. They can give an ultimatum and nothing, it is a very difficult disease to get out of, you need all the support from the world, and of course a casino can give economic support, there is no other, in the end the people who get over the juice activity They can fall into this type of addictive activity. So when it comes to Collaborating in favor of this, it is something that should be greatly appreciated, because I believe that we should all have some heart and be able to help those who need this most, there are people who want to get out of this problem , but why not? They have already run out of money, some may take advice from here in various Addiction threads that have been made, but it is not just that they get a specialist who can help them so that they can make them feel better, that they assign them activities or exercises that they can do so that they can have a better income and can get out of that nightmare quickly, so I would think that if a casino or two , or the casinos that are there and wanted to commit to this cause, should be very appreciated, it should be the The best thing they can do, because I have seen that here in the forum there are many addiction topics and that Means that there are many members who at Least are Suffering from it.
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November 18, 2023, 08:54:33 PM |
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It is considered now as one of the responsible of casinos and part of their operations is to help those who get addicted and I believe it should be promoted on every casinos so the gambler can know that if they need a help, there is someone who can actually help them. Addiction is not ok and recovering from it is not that easy, having this program can at least give the gambler an opportunity to rise again and recover from such addiction.
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November 18, 2023, 09:13:05 PM |
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I'm just curious and would like to get the consensus of the community, should casinos sponsor sites that deal with gambling addiction and cure, we can't deny that the gambling addiction percentage is very high in this generation,
I just stumbled one site about gambling addiction it's a free help for those addicted to gambling, there are many more related sites and facilities. Do you think it is the obligation of casinos online or offline?
It is casinos' way to repay those who put in a lot of money and get addicted or they shouldn't care because it's the gamblers' initiative to play.
I don't think casino and gambling companies should sponsor site that will deal with gambling addiction and cure, it is always stated in every casino or gambling sites, it's not meant for people under 18 years old, that is people that are categorised as underage, should not gamble as they are not matured for it. So basically is not their business if somebody is addicted or not, this is more like a business organisation, they are open to make profit, so if people don't play gamble or people don't come to the casino they won't make profit. Is more like telling a brewery company to start making doctors available or start sponsoring doctors that will cure diabetes because there is high level of sugar in beer or beverage drinks, when you can actually watch what you eat and control what you drink.
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November 18, 2023, 09:18:03 PM |
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I'm just curious and would like to get the consensus of the community, should casinos sponsor sites that deal with gambling addiction and cure, we can't deny that the gambling addiction percentage is very high in this generation,
I just stumbled one site about gambling addiction it's a free help for those addicted to gambling, there are many more related sites and facilities. Do you think it is the obligation of casinos online or offline?
It is casinos' way to repay those who put in a lot of money and get addicted or they shouldn't care because it's the gamblers' initiative to play.
From my Own perspective ? it is not that "They Should" Instead it is "THEY MUST" I know that we need not to blame them of how gamblers turns addicted as those are decision of each gamblers but they are part of it. they are the one that made them turning addicted because if there is no gambling site/houses there will be no gambling addict. I may sounds wrong but Look at that and how it works , both parties has obligation from the addict and the gambling owners . Yes, they did really make someone addicted on offering those gambling games but you should think that you arent forced to do so or play into their site on which means that we cant really or not really that just right to point out fingers and telling them that they are really that obliged on helping those people who are addicted because it is really just that basing up on our own will and decision and its not something that you could really be just that easily put blame into someones business just because you do end up miserably. Its all because of your bad decisions and toleration about gambling thing. If you had just make yourself that responsible then you wont really be having no problems and you wont really be pointing out fingers on the time that you do see that youre fucked up.
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November 18, 2023, 09:20:34 PM |
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It is considered now as one of the responsible of casinos and part of their operations is to help those who get addicted and I believe it should be promoted on every casinos so the gambler can know that if they need a help, there is someone who can actually help them. Addiction is not ok and recovering from it is not that easy, having this program can at least give the gambler an opportunity to rise again and recover from such addiction.
But I am sure that every casino will not release this program to sponsor sites dealing with gambling addiction, even though they know that gambling addiction is difficult to cure but the casino does not want to put its position in supporting the treatment of gambling addiction problems, but maybe the casino will consider the opinions of the community if Many gambling communities want casinos to participate in dealing with the problem of gambling addiction, so we have to raise more discussions about this problem so that every big casino responds to sponsoring activities to treat gambling addiction.
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November 18, 2023, 09:31:31 PM |
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pretty sure governments still tax casinos even if they require them by law to donate to charities, tax revenue from casinos is no joke, I doubt governments will pass the chance on getting money from casinos, especially on how big the revenue they bring in each year.
The government of many countries getting taxes from the gambling sites where the gambling was the legal one.So the government itself sponsor the gambling addicted person to get away from the gambling addiction.The gambling addiction can be cured only by the acceptence of the gambler to the game.After some losses the gambler will start to do the target of their gambling loss,this was the prime reason for the gambling addiction.So the gambler should start to control the deposit of the dollars to the gambling site and only fix the certain amount of the gambling site for certain period of time.Mostly the gambler can do the fixed deposit for the week and don't get into the daily based.Because it was not easy to control the deosit for the day time period when the gambler at the gambling addiction.
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November 19, 2023, 03:37:31 PM |
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These types of initiatives are things that governments have asked land-based casinos to do, but it is not an obligation that governments do or impose on land-based casinos, but in practice what has been seen is that land-based casinos have focused on sponsoring leagues important teams and important teams so that in addition to contributing to the development of football and teams and at the same time that casinos gain more exposure because in exchange for partnership or sponsorship the teams place the casino logo on the football pitches and team t-shirts . It's a win-win situation.
and that makes sense, because casino is a private company that pays taxes, pays employee salaries, pays servers, pays water and electricity bills in the case of physical casinos, so casinos cannot keep making donations without them earning anything. people are responsible for themselves, when they create an account at casinos they agree with the casino's TOS, and in the casino's TOS it is very clear that only people over 18 years of age should play, and we all know that people who are older 18 years of age are considered adults and are responsible for their actions.
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November 19, 2023, 03:47:38 PM |
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pretty sure governments still tax casinos even if they require them by law to donate to charities, tax revenue from casinos is no joke, I doubt governments will pass the chance on getting money from casinos, especially on how big the revenue they bring in each year.
The government of many countries getting taxes from the gambling sites where the gambling was the legal one.So the government itself sponsor the gambling addicted person to get away from the gambling addiction.The gambling addiction can be cured only by the acceptence of the gambler to the game.After some losses the gambler will start to do the target of their gambling loss,this was the prime reason for the gambling addiction.So the gambler should start to control the deposit of the dollars to the gambling site and only fix the certain amount of the gambling site for certain period of time.Mostly the gambler can do the fixed deposit for the week and don't get into the daily based.Because it was not easy to control the deosit for the day time period when the gambler at the gambling addiction. It’s called sin tax in my country. Government is not directly sponsoring it that’s why there’s always a disclaimer for any advertisement which gambling is involved. They are just allowing it because people keeps doing it illegally which is more dangerous because it’s not moderated. We all know that the real problem here is the gambler itself. Even without license, advertisement and other things that will allow casino to operate. There will still a lot of illegal operations open in discreet location because people seek this kind of activity themselves. This is why responsible gambling is a must.
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November 19, 2023, 04:03:44 PM |
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pretty sure governments still tax casinos even if they require them by law to donate to charities, tax revenue from casinos is no joke, I doubt governments will pass the chance on getting money from casinos, especially on how big the revenue they bring in each year.
The government of many countries getting taxes from the gambling sites where the gambling was the legal one.So the government itself sponsor the gambling addicted person to get away from the gambling addiction.The gambling addiction can be cured only by the acceptence of the gambler to the game.After some losses the gambler will start to do the target of their gambling loss,this was the prime reason for the gambling addiction.So the gambler should start to control the deposit of the dollars to the gambling site and only fix the certain amount of the gambling site for certain period of time.Mostly the gambler can do the fixed deposit for the week and don't get into the daily based.Because it was not easy to control the deosit for the day time period when the gambler at the gambling addiction. It’s called sin tax in my country. Government is not directly sponsoring it that’s why there’s always a disclaimer for any advertisement which gambling is involved. They are just allowing it because people keeps doing it illegally which is more dangerous because it’s not moderated. We all know that the real problem here is the gambler itself. Even without license, advertisement and other things that will allow casino to operate. There will still a lot of illegal operations open in discreet location because people seek this kind of activity themselves. This is why responsible gambling is a must. As I mentioned before that casinos are businesses and not people, and usually businesses don't care about anything and they love addicts because they are the ones who make casinos profitable. So this addiction problem depends on the gamblers themselves and they definitely know the risks of gambling and must anticipate before becoming addicted what they must instill in themselves, and the government also doesn't seem to care about this. Especially in countries that prohibit gambling activities. Because they know the reasons why banning gambling causes addiction, it can even lead to crime and even suicide because of gambling.
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November 19, 2023, 04:19:50 PM |
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I'm just curious and would like to get the consensus of the community, should casinos sponsor sites that deal with gambling addiction and cure, we can't deny that the gambling addiction percentage is very high in this generation,
I just stumbled one site about gambling addiction it's a free help for those addicted to gambling, there are many more related sites and facilities. Do you think it is the obligation of casinos online or offline?
It is casinos' way to repay those who put in a lot of money and get addicted or they shouldn't care because it's the gamblers' initiative to play.
Is it duty of wine producer to sponsor sites that deal with alcohol addiction? It's not their duty but when your product causes addiction and you fund companies or sites that deal with that addiction and help people to overcome them, then you are doing ethical thing which is your free will and not duty. There is a casino Betsson that owns many casinos. This casino runs organization in my country that helps people with gambling addiction and covers support of psychologists for people who are addicted to gambling. They also were promoting healthy gambling and were suggesting people to not lose more than they can afford to lose.
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November 19, 2023, 04:43:34 PM |
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As I mentioned before that casinos are businesses and not people, and usually businesses don't care about anything and they love addicts because they are the ones who make casinos profitable. So this addiction problem depends on the gamblers themselves and they definitely know the risks of gambling and must anticipate before becoming addicted what they must instill in themselves, and the government also doesn't seem to care about this. Especially in countries that prohibit gambling activities. Because they know the reasons why banning gambling causes addiction, it can even lead to crime and even suicide because of gambling.
From what I read, it seems that your statement makes more sense, my friend. It is true that casinos are a business engaged in betting that always runs randomly without certainty, if this is a business that means there must always be a profit running, as we know that the purpose of establishing a business is to be profitable, right? therefore I honestly disagree with the statement that casinos will provide programs or at least help the government to minimize the number of addictions in its society, it makes less sense and is very doubtful. So the bottom line is that the more people who are addicted, the greater the casino revenue will be, and the other question is who doesn't like/want money? Obviously that's the real goal of casinos, so maybe you have also often heard from some healthy people that we should not look at gambling as a place that produces, because it is dangerous. Although basically there are good intentions from the government to reduce the number of people who are addicted but I think on the other hand it is very difficult, this problem is very dependent on the person of each gambler, if they are not willing to quit the activity then it will not be possible to recover, so basically only they / the person himself knows and can cure himself from addiction with some precautions they apply, so this is nothing more than a matter of gambler's intention.
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Gozie51
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November 19, 2023, 04:58:22 PM |
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Do you think it is the obligation of casinos online or offline?
No I don't think it is the obligation of casino to establish a site for gambling addiction cure or whatever it is that it would be called. It is already in the terms of the casino not being responsible to the effect of gambling at least I know it is there in offline gambling. Moreover, there are some agencies and NGOs that deal with that, so I don't think it would be mandatory for casinos to go into that. And gamblers gamble because they want to win from the casino, they should rather stop if they won't gamble responsibly. I was also thinking casinos are in business for profit and that if they sponsor such site, it would cause them to lose customers but however some people will still gamble despite whatever warning. So it is just would be a futile exercise, as people won't gamble responsibly, they will keep going in and out of the site or help center.
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