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November 28, 2023, 09:09:55 AM
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I get that luck can play a part in all kinds of stuff in our lives, but it ain't everything.  Like yeah, sometimes you gotta bust your butt and stick to it to make your goals happen. so it proves that even when we feel totally unlucky, we can beat the challenges if we just keep working. 
It's about gambling and not any other stuff in our lives, and gambling does require a lot of luck for a person to be able to win it, especially if it's about gambling games where the results are totally dependent on one's luck and nothing else has any influence on it. However, when we talk about sports betting, it's a part of gambling where luck isn't the most important factor because you can't win all the time by guessing which side will win but you can win more if you have knowledge and experience.

However, when it comes to the luck of others influencing your luck, I don't think there is any reality in that, and your chances of winning and losing will depend on your own research and knowledge about the sport, the games, and the players involved in those games.

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November 28, 2023, 09:49:35 AM
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This is what I mean and the best questions is why should we copy for someone's strategy and then apply it in our betting, we should always remember that we are not all the same in gambling also the results is not the same cause it will base on n our luck once we put our bet. There's no assurance that another gambling use this strategy then I'll use this because the reason of I will win too. But in reality there's re only small percentage of winning we already have.
The luck of winning has its own share and no gambler can get it for sure if they really hope for it and no one knows when it will come to us to be able to produce win.
One strategy can result in wins of perhaps hundreds or even thousands of dollars for gamblers, but when we try to carry out the same strategy it will not necessarily be successful in calming them down, especially if we just imitate without being able to understand or learn how strategy works.
Only those who don't believe in their own abilities try to do this and they must be prepared to lose money if they just do the same as everyone else does.
It is always necessary to understand that in gambling the only thing that comes with certainty even guaranteed is defeat. With whatever effort, if it is not time to win the result will also be the same namely losing and going home feeling regretful.
If we imitate strategies and success can win of course we can all get rich from gambling and won't feel dizzy because we have experienced a big loss.

Isn't this true? Isn't all this reality that actually always happens but cannot be avoided by every gambler?

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November 28, 2023, 10:16:34 AM
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Whenever I am low on cash on the casino I play which includes a sport book I like to copy other people bets,usually parlays with odds over 1000 and I think to myself who cares if I play for example 50 bets copying other people with 200 IDR as my base bet,if any of these guys hits it big I will do to.Notice that I put 1000 as a minimum here but the reality is that I have been copying bets with over 700.000 as odds,I damn love these huge multipliers yet no one has got such one in sport betting.

Of course in here it is not about skill or luck games anymore but it is about destiny,so tell me how many of you are deceived by dreams that may change your destiny like I am  Grin?

How do you know which bets to copy, or do you just copy all the big bets with huge multipliers? I think it's important to know which gambler we can copy and which we should stay away from. Without knowing much about the person placing the bets, it's hard to become profitable by following them blindly. In the past I liked to follow other people and try to copy their bets as well, but my results were poor and I never managed to break even when following other people. The only time where I was making money with it was in university, when a good friend of mine was placing a lot of bets for a few friends in lower regional football league. His trackrecord with betting on some of the regional championships was awesome and he managed to earn a free vacation for all of us after exams. All the other times when I followed other people with their bets I rarely made any profits. Now I am trying to only stick to my own bets and make up my mind when watching the games myself. I don't really believe in destiny, because then what is the point to make any decision at all, we could just randomly place bets without really thinking about it.
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November 28, 2023, 10:52:38 AM
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It's about gambling and not any other stuff in our lives, and gambling does require a lot of luck for a person to be able to win it, especially if it's about gambling games where the results are totally dependent on one's luck and nothing else has any influence on it. However, when we talk about sports betting, it's a part of gambling where luck isn't the most important factor because you can't win all the time by guessing which side will win but you can win more if you have knowledge and experience.
In the case of the OP, luck will play the most important role because he bets at very large odds, 1000 or more. In such cases, winnings will be extremely rare, I don’t know if he managed to win, maybe it’s just waiting for luck, but I’m skeptical about such bets and don’t want to waste my time on such bets, because I simply don’t believe that I can win bet with this odds.

I prefer bets with odds around 2, in my opinion, such odds can be achieved relatively easily and the risks will be lower, and at the distance you need to have more winning bets than losing ones, this seems realistic to me.

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November 28, 2023, 12:48:10 PM
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It's about gambling and not any other stuff in our lives, and gambling does require a lot of luck for a person to be able to win it, especially if it's about gambling games where the results are totally dependent on one's luck and nothing else has any influence on it. However, when we talk about sports betting, it's a part of gambling where luck isn't the most important factor because you can't win all the time by guessing which side will win but you can win more if you have knowledge and experience.
In the case of the OP, luck will play the most important role because he bets at very large odds, 1000 or more. In such cases, winnings will be extremely rare, I don’t know if he managed to win, maybe it’s just waiting for luck, but I’m skeptical about such bets and don’t want to waste my time on such bets, because I simply don’t believe that I can win bet with this odds.

Waiting for that luck where he copies the bet of someone else's picks, I don't think it's something that he doesn't know what he's doing
as he is willing to take that risk while waiting for something good to happen.

Maybe the amount of money that he places is the amount that he's willing to let go, anyway it always depends on the gambler himself and how they take that situation, whatever the outcome.

Take it as how you believe with both you and the person you copy the pick.
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November 28, 2023, 01:31:10 PM
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It's about gambling and not any other stuff in our lives, and gambling does require a lot of luck for a person to be able to win it, especially if it's about gambling games where the results are totally dependent on one's luck and nothing else has any influence on it. However, when we talk about sports betting, it's a part of gambling where luck isn't the most important factor because you can't win all the time by guessing which side will win but you can win more if you have knowledge and experience.

However, when it comes to the luck of others influencing your luck, I don't think there is any reality in that, and your chances of winning and losing will depend on your own research and knowledge about the sport, the games, and the players involved in those games.
Most amateur gamblers feel that they can copy from those they consider professionals. They just assume that these professional gamblers have more understanding of the game and therefore have better chances of winning bets. But as they progress in the gambling field and become professional they end up becoming more independent. I see copying someone else's bet as a sign of laziness especially in sports bets where you can easily analyse games by reading some information about the teams you want to bet on. Luck plays an important role in gambling but there is s need to have basic knowledge about the game because it will also increase your chances of winning. But in some cases you will be forced to follow someone'e bet especially when they claim that it came form an insider.

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November 28, 2023, 01:58:47 PM
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Whenever I am low on cash on the casino I play which includes a sport book I like to copy other people bets,usually parlays with odds over 1000 and I think to myself who cares if I play for example 50 bets copying other people with 200 IDR as my base bet,if any of these guys hits it big I will do to.Notice that I put 1000 as a minimum here but the reality is that I have been copying bets with over 700.000 as odds,I damn love these huge multipliers yet no one has got such one in sport betting.

Of course in here it is not about skill or luck games anymore but it is about destiny,so tell me how many of you are deceived by dreams that may change your destiny like I am  Grin?
I had a neighbor who was making money from sports betting for decades. He was betting on football only, he was watching absolutely every football match and was reading football news. At some point I was copying his bets (he is dead now) and had success, he was usually creating multiple tickets with 40 odds or higher. Once or twice a month he was catching a good high odd ticket which was enough to cover all the loses and gain amazing profit.

It's about gambling and not any other stuff in our lives, and gambling does require a lot of luck for a person to be able to win it, especially if it's about gambling games where the results are totally dependent on one's luck and nothing else has any influence on it. However, when we talk about sports betting, it's a part of gambling where luck isn't the most important factor because you can't win all the time by guessing which side will win but you can win more if you have knowledge and experience.

However, when it comes to the luck of others influencing your luck, I don't think there is any reality in that, and your chances of winning and losing will depend on your own research and knowledge about the sport, the games, and the players involved in those games.
Gambling requires luck, it's almost 100% luck. If gambling wasn't luck, we would have an educational institution in which students study different games of casinos to master their skills and win. Slots, Roulette and similar games are all luck based. Games like poker are a combination of luck and skills and sport requires luck even for players. Player's luck generates money for bettor.

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November 29, 2023, 02:18:00 PM
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Whenever I am low on cash on the casino I play which includes a sport book I like to copy other people bets,usually parlays with odds over 1000 and I think to myself who cares if I play for example 50 bets copying other people with 200 IDR as my base bet,if any of these guys hits it big I will do to.Notice that I put 1000 as a minimum here but the reality is that I have been copying bets with over 700.000 as odds,I damn love these huge multipliers yet no one has got such one in sport betting.

Of course in here it is not about skill or luck games anymore but it is about destiny,so tell me how many of you are deceived by dreams that may change your destiny like I am  Grin?
I had a neighbor who was making money from sports betting for decades. He was betting on football only, he was watching absolutely every football match and was reading football news. At some point I was copying his bets (he is dead now) and had success, he was usually creating multiple tickets with 40 odds or higher. Once or twice a month he was catching a good high odd ticket which was enough to cover all the loses and gain amazing profit.

It's about gambling and not any other stuff in our lives, and gambling does require a lot of luck for a person to be able to win it, especially if it's about gambling games where the results are totally dependent on one's luck and nothing else has any influence on it. However, when we talk about sports betting, it's a part of gambling where luck isn't the most important factor because you can't win all the time by guessing which side will win but you can win more if you have knowledge and experience.

However, when it comes to the luck of others influencing your luck, I don't think there is any reality in that, and your chances of winning and losing will depend on your own research and knowledge about the sport, the games, and the players involved in those games.
Gambling requires luck, it's almost 100% luck. If gambling wasn't luck, we would have an educational institution in which students study different games of casinos to master their skills and win. Slots, Roulette and similar games are all luck based. Games like poker are a combination of luck and skills and sport requires luck even for players. Player's luck generates money for bettor.



Agree with this mate, gambling is Base in luck and we are all know once a gambler have thier lucks then there's a chance that they will win a good amount of money but if they don't have luck then there's a high possibility that they will loss a big amount of. And also  like what you've said once gambling don't have luck then there's a subject in our schools  teaching us how to become a good and successful gambler. But in reality in this world  we need to focus on luck once we put our bet.
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November 29, 2023, 03:13:53 PM
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I prefer bets with odds around 2, in my opinion, such odds can be achieved relatively easily and the risks will be lower, and at the distance you need to have more winning bets than losing ones, this seems realistic to me.
I may be different from you because to be honest, I'm more interested in betting under Odds 2.00 unless both teams have above Odds 2.00, but I personally think it's safer under 2.00 because it might make it easier for me to know who will win the match, besides We can also see how much support there is for betting on one of the teams, so that for example it is close to Odds 1.50, I will bet there.

But it all comes back to luck, even with analysis and looking at statistics it is not possible to win perfectly because everything still depends on luck, it is not important to actually look at the Odds because it does not guarantee that the bet will win even though sometimes it can win. Don't use Odds as a betting benchmark because that's not the right way.  Grin

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November 29, 2023, 03:56:57 PM
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Waiting for that luck where he copies the bet of someone else's picks, I don't think it's something that he doesn't know what he's doing
as he is willing to take that risk while waiting for something good to happen.

Maybe the amount of money that he places is the amount that he's willing to let go, anyway it always depends on the gambler himself and how they take that situation, whatever the outcome.

Take it as how you believe with both you and the person you copy the pick.
well yeah.. I think they may be taking a calculated risk, believing that the person they are copying has a better understanding of the game or a more intuitive sense of the odds, I cant argue to say it's a bad idea. Moreover, I have no doubt that they may simply be enjoying the social aspect of gambling and the camaraderie of sharing picks with others, because gambling can be a great way to socialize and connect with others who share your interests. The camaraderie and excitement of sharing picks and experiencing the thrill of winning together can be a very rewarding experience. It's a way to bond over a shared passion and create lasting memories.

But, I doubt that will put the same amount of money the gambler is willing to risk when their decisions depend on other individual circumstances and risk tolerance. There is no right or wrong answer, and what is acceptable for one person may not be acceptable for another. The important thing is that the gambler is aware of the risks involved and is gambling within their means.

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November 29, 2023, 04:46:30 PM
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Its never been a guarantee and its never been that an assured thing even if you do copy out into those gamblers. Yes, they could have that good winning rate but we know that
luck isnt always on our side on which means that we should really be that at least realistic with our approach. Never ever make yourself believe that you would be able to
make sure money or profits when you do follow someone and not really just that limited or talking about gambling but also in trading.
Nothing beats out if you are really that good when it comes to deal up with things on your own and not really that relying into someone.
We could really be able to tell on what are the worthy things to be done along the way. It is really just that impossible that you cant be able to notice out.
There's no guarantee that we can win by copying other people's bets, but it's the quickest way for people who want to win without having to worry too much about analyzing the match.
We also don't know whether their analysis is good enough to give us an opportunity so that we can win together with them. If we can win, it is our luck but if we lose, it will be our risk and we must be able to accept it.
But if it's just for fun without having to analyze, we can just copy other people's bets and hope to win from their bets.
Just prepare as much money as we can afford so that we won't feel sad or sorry for copying other people's bets.

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I get that luck can play a part in all kinds of stuff in our lives, but it ain't everything.  Like yeah, sometimes you gotta bust your butt and stick to it to make your goals happen. so it proves that even when we feel totally unlucky, we can beat the challenges if we just keep working. 

Copying other people's bets can definitely be positive for beginners. Gambling can be conducted without enough knowledge, but copying bets can be a good feature for a newbie to gambling. Generally gambler can get an opportunity to increase his sufficient knowledge about gambling and in gambling risk is always appear. Those who wish to gamble should do it as  much as he can afford to loss. When a gambler gains knowledge by copying the bets of others, he can bet like himself. While this feature is convenient for newbies, it won't benefit a experienced gambler. Because he can analyze himself, he can win more than others. Moreover, winning and losing in gambling depends entirely on luck, so one should bet own responsibility is the good decision.

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December 03, 2023, 07:01:04 PM
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I get that luck can play a part in all kinds of stuff in our lives, but it ain't everything.  Like yeah, sometimes you gotta bust your butt and stick to it to make your goals happen. so it proves that even when we feel totally unlucky, we can beat the challenges if we just keep working. 

Copying other people's bets can definitely be positive for beginners. Gambling can be conducted without enough knowledge, but copying bets can be a good feature for a newbie to gambling. Generally gambler can get an opportunity to increase his sufficient knowledge about gambling and in gambling risk is always appear. Those who wish to gamble should do it as  much as he can afford to loss. When a gambler gains knowledge by copying the bets of others, he can bet like himself. While this feature is convenient for newbies, it won't benefit a experienced gambler. Because he can analyze himself, he can win more than others. Moreover, winning and losing in gambling depends entirely on luck, so one should bet own responsibility is the good decision.
Copying the bets of someone else do not really makes a lot of sense, this is similar to what exchanges do allowing newbie traders to copy the trades of more experimented traders, but at least when it comes to trading the main purpose of the activity is to make money with it, so I can more clearly understand why a service like that exists, however gambling is all about the fun you can get with it, and copying the bets of someone else will not only bring you no profits, but you will get no fun at all either.
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I get that luck can play a part in all kinds of stuff in our lives, but it ain't everything.  Like yeah, sometimes you gotta bust your butt and stick to it to make your goals happen. so it proves that even when we feel totally unlucky, we can beat the challenges if we just keep working. 

Copying other people's bets can definitely be positive for beginners. Gambling can be conducted without enough knowledge, but copying bets can be a good feature for a newbie to gambling. Generally gambler can get an opportunity to increase his sufficient knowledge about gambling and in gambling risk is always appear. Those who wish to gamble should do it as  much as he can afford to loss. When a gambler gains knowledge by copying the bets of others, he can bet like himself. While this feature is convenient for newbies, it won't benefit a experienced gambler. Because he can analyze himself, he can win more than others. Moreover, winning and losing in gambling depends entirely on luck, so one should bet own responsibility is the good decision.

I come at a bet today where Ferencvaros with 1.23 odd made it lose,this is one of these times where you say to yourself why the f do we continue to gamble when losing from such low odds has become mainstream during all weekends now.This feature is convenient yes but only if you know what you are betting on,as I said before I will continue to use this feature although not successful so far because one day that huge odd is going to be hit without a doubt but in general you need to give a check to what games you are betting on,a fast smart screening of the games and if you agree then you copy,in this context this feature is perfect.

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Copying other people's bets can definitely be positive for beginners. Gambling can be conducted without enough knowledge, but copying bets can be a good feature for a newbie to gambling. Generally gambler can get an opportunity to increase his sufficient knowledge about gambling and in gambling risk is always appear. Those who wish to gamble should do it as  much as he can afford to loss. When a gambler gains knowledge by copying the bets of others, he can bet like himself. While this feature is convenient for newbies, it won't benefit a experienced gambler. Because he can analyze himself, he can win more than others. Moreover, winning and losing in gambling depends entirely on luck, so one should bet own responsibility is the good decision.
    It’s not always safe copying people’s bet for you may not know how deep the person has done his research, their own bets may not be as pleasant as the one you bring.  it’s best to do your own research and forecast. Newbie may find the whole process kind of difficult for a start but with constant learning and doing your own research you will get to know your way around the sport betting.  Nothing is difficult if you set your mind to it. I have see women who knows nothing about football or sport betting but still win bets. She doesn’t  necessarily have to watch all the game to know which team to bet on with just checking the team stats and head to head she’s good to go. And that has been working for her,  even though she still experience losses..
    Newbie will need to understand that they can not place their trust on people’s bet, therefore they should not be deceived of having any 100% game, no game is 100% for all game is base in luck and pure prediction, a lot can go wrong, so never stake what you can’t afford to lose. It is important to have idea what you are venturing into, and don’t gamble out of peer pressure, the luck doesn’t work for everyone they should know that.
   
 
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December 03, 2023, 09:06:10 PM
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It's about gambling and not any other stuff in our lives, and gambling does require a lot of luck for a person to be able to win it, especially if it's about gambling games where the results are totally dependent on one's luck and nothing else has any influence on it. However, when we talk about sports betting, it's a part of gambling where luck isn't the most important factor because you can't win all the time by guessing which side will win but you can win more if you have knowledge and experience.

However, when it comes to the luck of others influencing your luck, I don't think there is any reality in that, and your chances of winning and losing will depend on your own research and knowledge about the sport, the games, and the players involved in those games.
Most amateur gamblers feel that they can copy from those they consider professionals. They just assume that these professional gamblers have more understanding of the game and therefore have better chances of winning bets. But as they progress in the gambling field and become professional they end up becoming more independent. I see copying someone else's bet as a sign of laziness especially in sports bets where you can easily analyse games by reading some information about the teams you want to bet on. Luck plays an important role in gambling but there is s need to have basic knowledge about the game because it will also increase your chances of winning. But in some cases you will be forced to follow someone'e bet especially when they claim that it came form an insider.

@Die_Empty: I know people who copy someones games, and sometimes I also do that, but that does not show that they are lazy. Luck happens and their are people who are really good in this gambling stuff, either they have been in it for years or they have some special skills they use for predictions – some use mathematical skills, why some have their ways of making their predictions work for them more then the other. Copying someone like that game does not make you look lazy. 
 
We can also make our own prediction and compare with theirs, and most times theirs always happens to play as expected than our own. In gambling their some games, which we just need to learn how to play them and make correct predictions about them, and those who we meet to learn from appears to be like our mentor, weather we like it or not, and if we see they predict a game we also play almost as they play theirs, because we also want to share same testimony with them.

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December 31, 2023, 09:57:04 PM
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Just reviving this topic with quite some winning bets from the ones I copied other people,well these ones are not great in odds but it shows that 3-4 bets that I copied with just 250 IDR per bet or sometimes played well over 5000 IDR per bet when I had the belief that things will go well so I never expected to win these bets while I also wait many others and I am ready now before I start the new year to start copying bets again from other people,it was quite some days I had not copied any bet at all and this feels great to win bets with such great odds,as in sport betting I consider this type of parlay a difficult one to achieve and hit.

BET 1 https://stake.com/sports/home?type=sports&status=active&iid=sport%3A124843821&modal=bet
BET 2 https://stake.com/sports/home?type=sports&status=active&iid=sport%3A124837944&modal=bet
BET 3 https://stake.com/sports/home?type=sports&status=active&iid=sport%3A124837054&modal=bet
BET 4 https://stake.com/sports/home?type=sports&status=active&iid=sport%3A124836392&modal=bet

Cheers,happy new year to everyone hopefully to come with more and more wins and that huge well over x10000 multiplier in sport betting as well.

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The odds on copying long shot sports bets has to still be better then a normal lottery ticket entry where its all completely blind.   People discount the extreme outcomes in sports till where its considered impossible where as a lottery its always a long shot and is calculated that way but people like to say well it can still happen but thats also true of the sports bet and if anything I count it as more likely to occur due to human errors in perception of teams etc.

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I get that luck can play a part in all kinds of stuff in our lives, but it ain't everything.  Like yeah, sometimes you gotta bust your butt and stick to it to make your goals happen. so it proves that even when we feel totally unlucky, we can beat the challenges if we just keep working. 

Copying other people's bets can definitely be positive for beginners. Gambling can be conducted without enough knowledge, but copying bets can be a good feature for a newbie to gambling. Generally gambler can get an opportunity to increase his sufficient knowledge about gambling and in gambling risk is always appear. Those who wish to gamble should do it as  much as he can afford to loss. When a gambler gains knowledge by copying the bets of others, he can bet like himself. While this feature is convenient for newbies, it won't benefit a experienced gambler. Because he can analyze himself, he can win more than others. Moreover, winning and losing in gambling depends entirely on luck, so one should bet own responsibility is the good decision.
Copying the bets of someone else do not really makes a lot of sense, this is similar to what exchanges do allowing newbie traders to copy the trades of more experimented traders, but at least when it comes to trading the main purpose of the activity is to make money with it, so I can more clearly understand why a service like that exists, however gambling is all about the fun you can get with it, and copying the bets of someone else will not only bring you no profits, but you will get no fun at all either.
If there's someone who do copy bets on gambling then there are still those people who do make copy trades in trading on which these kind of things arent really that something new anymore.
People would really be trying out to mimic and do the same thing on where those lucky gamblers would really be doing on which they do really believe that they would really be that be able to make on the same luck that they do have. There are people who are really that mindful and realistic towards their actions and there are ones who are really that who do stick on believing into those
things which cant be possible. In gambling on which luck would be always the determining factor on meaning that if you arent that lucky enough then copying wouldnt really be
ending up on the same results.

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Let's bounce back this thread with a good win,sometimes following people bets pays off in the long run as long as you are careful which bet to copy,lately I am having a good run in winning bets but my big problem which I am fighting myself is that I think I am again addicted to slots as any money won from sport bets goes immediately in the slot machines.Anyway I have overcome one such hardship in 2020 and I will overcome it again,in fact lately I have been stopping playing slots as soon as I read a losing pattern (not giving bonus for more than 300 spins).Here is that winning bet which is a good one for tonight.

https://stake.com/sports/home?type=sports&status=settled&iid=sport%3A129645003&modal=bet

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