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November 23, 2023, 08:25:45 AM
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The grammar part can be ignored as long as a person is able to make others understand his point. Not all of us are native English speaker. We have much lacking. We don't have enough collection of vocabulary or grammar knowledge. But, yes. correcting grammar is a good thing. Even though, most of us don't maintain this. Even me. I try to be but not always. I only use Grammarly or Quilbot only when making an official own thread. But apart from that, I'm always writings English as I see fit. 

Poor grammar creates the ground for the fact that the meaning of what is written is often incomprehensible. And this leads to the fact that readers begin to think out what the author did not mean and interpret what was said in their own way, which is why the thread of the discussion is lost and spoiled. Therefore, grammar is an extremely important component of quality communication on the forum. I'm not a native English speaker either, but I advocate for users to improve the language as well as the quality of their posts themselves.

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November 29, 2023, 06:54:37 AM
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Poor grammar creates the ground for the fact that the meaning of what is written is often incomprehensible. And this leads to the fact that readers begin to think out what the author did not mean and interpret what was said in their own way, which is why the thread of the discussion is lost and spoiled. Therefore, grammar is an extremely important component of quality communication on the forum. I'm not a native English speaker either, but I advocate for users to improve the language as well as the quality of their posts themselves.
Depending on how poor the writer's grammar is, it can sometimes be a pain to read and generally doesn't look good in a post. I'm not expecting everyone to have a proficient level of English, but you need to be able to get your message across. In my opinion, English not being the first language isn't always a valid excuse; certainly, I don't blame some for not knowing English, but my point is that there are a few effortless ways to improve our posts. There are numerous free grammar correctors that require no installation whatsoever. They can be of tremendous assistance in these cases, in order to sound more fluent. I also use QuillBot from time to time, especially if it's large text.

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November 29, 2023, 05:10:31 PM
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In my opinion, English not being the first language isn't always a valid excuse; certainly, I don't blame some for not knowing English, but my point is that there are a few effortless ways to improve our posts.

I agree with you on this. Sure, not everyone has to speak English. However, I don't really understand the logic behind such kind of behaviour, when someone comes to an English-speaking forum (mostly, of course, we won't take local boards into account during this matter) and thinks he can write something completely unreadable, because he has an excuse of being fond of crypto but not being a native speaker. How exactly he expects others to understand him? All of this leads only to miscommunication, irritation and ignoring. And makes no contribution to the development of the forum.

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November 30, 2023, 07:16:35 AM
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Poor grammar creates the ground for the fact that the meaning of what is written is often incomprehensible. And this leads to the fact that readers begin to think out what the author did not mean and interpret what was said in their own way, which is why the thread of the discussion is lost and spoiled. Therefore, grammar is an extremely important component of quality communication on the forum. I'm not a native English speaker either, but I advocate for users to improve the language as well as the quality of their posts themselves.
Depending on how poor the writer's grammar is, it can sometimes be a pain to read and generally doesn't look good in a post. I'm not expecting everyone to have a proficient level of English, but you need to be able to get your message across. In my opinion, English not being the first language isn't always a valid excuse; certainly, I don't blame some for not knowing English, but my point is that there are a few effortless ways to improve our posts. There are numerous free grammar correctors that require no installation whatsoever. They can be of tremendous assistance in these cases, in order to sound more fluent. I also use QuillBot from time to time, especially if it's large text.

Yep I agree about this, most of people said that we can completely ignore grammar as long as our writing is understood, but if the basic level grammar of the text is wrong the sentence will tend to be missunderstood and the information will be altered, so we should not completely ignore grammar especially the basic level. The advance level grammar however, like infinitive, gerund, .etc, could be ignored as long as the meaning is delivered and understood.

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November 30, 2023, 09:25:39 AM
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The advance level grammar however, like infinitive, gerund, .etc, could be ignored as long as the meaning is delivered and understood.

The problem with ignoring advanced grammar parts lies in the fact that it remains that way forever. If someone gets used to being understood with poor grammar, he won't have any motivation to keep improving his language skills. Because why do that if it is ok the way it is? And that's lead to stagnation, when nothing is done for the sake of further development. I don't support such an approach, that is why I am convinced that grammar is of a high importance.

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November 30, 2023, 02:13:38 PM
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The grammar part can be ignored as long as a person is able to make others understand his point. Not all of us are native English speaker. We have much lacking. We don't have enough collection of vocabulary or grammar knowledge. But, yes. correcting grammar is a good thing. Even though, most of us don't maintain this. Even me. I try to be but not always. I only use Grammarly or Quilbot only when making an official own thread. But apart from that, I'm always writings English as I see fit.

Poor grammar creates the ground for the fact that the meaning of what is written is often incomprehensible. And this leads to the fact that readers begin to think out what the author did not mean and interpret what was said in their own way, which is why the thread of the discussion is lost and spoiled. Therefore, grammar is an extremely important component of quality communication on the forum. I'm not a native English speaker either, but I advocate for users to improve the language as well as the quality of their posts themselves.
Even if using poor grammar is still tolerated in the forum, but we should not be comfortable with it since there will really come a time that the forum will strictly impose correct usage of grammar or correct spelling, otherwise you will be out in the forum if you ignore improving it.

The forum makes an effective outlet for learning, not only about bitcoin and the crypto market, but it also encourage us to use specific and appropriate words so that the main thought of one's post will be carried out well.
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December 29, 2023, 07:31:10 AM
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4. Don't worry that you will be perceived worse if you have a low rank. I saw a lot of members and even junior members who wrote interesting and useful posts, and they were treated with no less respect than a hero or legendary. Your image on the forum depends much more on the history of your posts than on your rank.

Like I said earlier, I've got great respect for this piece you wrote here as I find your observations are really on point and manages to detail what most beginners pass through on this forum.
 On this tip you outlined here, I find it quite relatable to what this user is trying to pass across in this post here . Some of them feel they'd be "attacked" if they make a post simply because they are newbies and as such, it discourages them from contributing to the forum. For me, abiding by the rules, making meaningful contribution and basically being yourself will help you integrate better here but I guess it's not all beginners that share this mindset.

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December 29, 2023, 07:48:17 PM
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It's never easy to be a newbie... If you could look beyond all vises, you'll definitely realize it was worth it... Most people in here don't even have that ability - I've seen several threads where newbies complain of being molested by high ranked members, and that has devalued Thier motivations...

The one thing that could possibly make a difference is if you abide by the rules of SPAMMING;  the reason why the merit system was created was to reduce/eliminate spam, shit posting and account farming...
Your image on the forum depends much more on the history of your posts than on your rank.
your image in here could encompass so many other things apart from your Post history.. take note!

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December 29, 2023, 10:30:18 PM
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Your image on the forum depends much more on the history of your posts than on your rank.
your image in here could encompass so many other things apart from your Post history.. take note!

The OP is right and you're also right but the focus of the OP was on newbies just joining the forum so he's more right when he said your image here revolve around your posting (post history). When you have a good posting record you can get merited quite easily when someone finds your post interest and of quality, there are high tendencies that your other posts will be looked at especially when you're a newbie therefore you should never underestimate the power of having a quality post history.

If I was to review a users post history and I meet more of generic contents in his post history, I won't go further but when I find his writing captivating and of quality then I'll drive further to look for more contents that probably were missed or didn't get enough publicity for members with merit to award merits to the post. A newbie should concentrate on giving the forum the best he has to offer before thinking about anything else to build his reputation.

Notice those newbies that ranked up in rank quicker did that by been known as quality contributors to the forum. Automatically their posts tends to attract meriters due to the value their posts contribute to the forum. As a newbie focus on delivering quality contributions to the forum to build your reputation here.

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Some of them feel they'd be "attacked" if they make a post simply because they are newbies and as such, it discourages them from contributing to the forum. For me, abiding by the rules, making meaningful contribution and basically being yourself will help you integrate better here but I guess it's not all beginners that share this mindset.

Honestly, I think that the only thing that can discourage someone who aims to learn from contributing to the forum is lack of true desire. I know that the atmosphere here could be rough and even unfriendly, but that mostly applies to those who disobey rules and ignore the way everything works here. I mean the worse way in which someone could be treated.

Everything depends on a person, of course. Someone could perceive criticism, even constructive one, with more pain and offence than the others. But sooner or later everyone face it, because you can not protect yourself from such kind of behaviour from other people. You just can not control other people's behaviour. You can only adjust your own reactions and become stronger.

your image in here could encompass so many other things apart from your Post history.. take note!

Sure, it could encompass other things and it does. But since the forum is mostly about verbal, written, textual communication, those aspect are the most relevant when it comes to the image of the user. We don't know one another no other way apart from what we are posting here. We can build out expressions about users mostly based on what they write. That is why I believe this is the first criteria you should pay attention to while analysing a member.

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1. Do not try to imitate others.

2. Do not chase the merits sources.

3. Ranking up takes time.

4. Don't worry that you will be perceived worse if you have a low rank.

5. Do not think yourself that you are worse than heroes or legendaries.
All what you have said is actually true and we are a victim of that.
1. Immitation is not a good way of success if one should imitate it should be don in another dimension. You are you, I am me. And I can never be you. So this statement implies that making a difference is by doing your own thing your own way. But if you see that your way is not encouraging you can Still change until you see the best in you and focus on a particular Style. Sometimes people fail to understand some sign of how to make a difference. Some old members have use there style to make fame. and copying them is like duplicating there image. So sometimess when you see the previous post you made and see the merit you've gotten from them, you can easily identity quality post from shitpost.

2. I have seen many newbies chasing merit souce and the funny thing is that merit souce know who is hunting for merit. That's why they skip post made by newbies who are sopos to be Asking question in biginers and help rathar following legendary to discuss a topic they know nothing. I have tried severely to follow merit souce if they can give me merit but I discovered that they know who is hunting merit so they rather give the merit amogs themselves rather than given to the newbies. Because given merit to newbies in such situation is a form of encouraging them to hunt the more. So i decided to stop because they might even tag me as shit poster or a Merit Hunter. When I started to focus on writing meaningfuly about what I know, I started getting Merits so its bad for newbies to chase after merit because it has led to many detrust from newly created account.

3. Rank up takes time. because we must need to make quality post in other to get merit and upgrade to another level. But failure to do that, it will lead to spamming or even requesting for merit from some legendary which is against the forum rule and it might also cause problem to us. Rome was not built a day so good things takes time and not a platter of gold.

4. Low rank is not a course but it's just a name position attached to a person in the forum which doesn't mean we are not contributing. Most low rank member are stuvked to that position due to there meritable Post was not notice or perhaps never submitted it to a meritable thread due to lack of information. Because most people are in the forum but don't know some secret place of growing.

5. On no account should one thinks that he/she is inferior because everybody was not born at thesame day or time. Your class mate is not your age mate. Some people activities shows that they have contributed enough to the forum but were not lucky enough to receive merit due to hard luck but that doesn't mean they didn't contributed meaningfuly but had a hard luck. Someday someone might recognise there efforts and decide to merit there post and they might even surpass the old legendary. So overtaking Is allowed. Thanks

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January 09, 2024, 02:04:46 PM
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Thanks The OP for sharing your experience and encouraging newbies on the right steps and mindset to follow in order to be focused in the forum and be confident. I picked some points that you made that we should not imitate others in the forum, we can be original and learn from them, we should learn to take criticism and learn from them. We newbies should know that ranking up in the forum takes time and hard work, we should concentrate on learning first before rank up and merit. Thank you.
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You took a great deal of time yo deliver this price just as it’s felt and came to you and that’s made it better. Something you said though and something I took a particular interest in is, trying to imitate others or idols.

It’s something that lost beginners look to have on the forum, someone go look up to, someone to use for a motivation, to follow their style and hope that, they somehow gain the recognition they need.
How do you become popular over something that lacks originality?
Of course you’re a unique individual with unique ideas and that’s why, the forum values originality.
Everyone is always in the search for new things, new information, new ways of doing a particular thing, a perspective other than there’s and you don’t get to come with some similar act from a famous user, you’ll get neglected.

Have confidence in yourself and be rest assured that there are people, standing on the sidelines and watching to have you grow. Be yourself, come as you are and have yourself transformed to what you want to be. That way, you’ll be so real to everyone and have own style which would add value to you.

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How do you become popular over something that lacks originality?

That is very common newbie`s mistake. Someone who is new at the forum, who has little confidence in himself, thinks that copying some idols, imitating their activity would help him to become smarter and more interesting to the community. The logic is that you do exactly the same for what others are being appreciated and recognised, for what others are getting so much merits. Although I see why it is easy to believe in such logic, I feel the need to emphasise that it is not how it actually works here. The only similar thing those "idols" have is their originality. And that is what every new member has to find in himself.

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