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November 11, 2023, 08:20:44 PM |
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Thanks to merit system that users cannot climb up the ranking just by count of posts and activity as merit is required because I have seen people used to make numerous posts even single or two worded to climb the ladder of the ranks before merit was made mandatory for ranking system.
I kind of like the merit system and how it all works as it encourages and help people to get intentional regarding the kind of topics and contribution that is coming from there end. I believe that if you organically build your account from newbie into a full member, it should call for respect and celebration because it is an indication of your positive contribution to the forum. Whoever I receive any merit for making any contribution in the forum, it gives me this sense if fulfilment that I am headed in the right direction and will also encourage me to do better.
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November 11, 2023, 11:21:30 PM |
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I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.
1. Avoid burst posting: I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.
Thanks to merit system that users cannot climb up the ranking just by count of posts and activity as merit is required because I have seen people used to make numerous posts even single or two worded to climb the ladder of the ranks before merit was made mandatory for ranking system.
2. Trading of merits: Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
**Correction** "burst posting"
Apologies
For me, all these things are unnecessary as a newbie because the forum has more than enough ways for you to learn and eventually help yourself out but so many users still don't really want to learn because if not I think buying of merit is really an outrageous move to take in a community like this. Although same with me for the actual merit trading PM from other members, I also haven't gotten any Pm and I believe that maybe it might be true but I feel it rarely happens.
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sotelorene
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November 13, 2023, 11:06:57 PM |
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I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.
1. Avoid burst posting: I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.
Thanks to merit system that users cannot climb up the ranking just by count of posts and activity as merit is required because I have seen people used to make numerous posts even single or two worded to climb the ladder of the ranks before merit was made mandatory for ranking system.
2. Trading of merits: Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
**Correction** "burst posting"
Apologies
Even people who called themselves snr member and full member sometimes participate in some of these activities that is going on here you mentioned. Well i don't think doing numerous posts is bad but it depends. If someone did several posts and it is meaningful, I mean posts that will help the forum grow is not a bad one, the person deserves a merit. Even if the person post often in order to participate in anything and the posts are sensible and encouraging I don't think there's something wrong with it.
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November 17, 2023, 12:09:25 PM |
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For the time I have been on this platform I have not really received any message from Amy newbie account or even established member asking me for merit or anything of such nature. From what you have said OP I believe you must have had such messages and I hope you don't mind quoting it here for us to see if possible.
Climbing up the ladder is not that easy here but with commitment and focus it would not be too cumbersome to achieve. The issue of burst posting I think should be left for managers to decide otherwise there are quality posts out there which might emanate from such and if we are to go by that measures, those post are good enough to earn merit which they eventually does.
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HajiBagi
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November 18, 2023, 08:46:35 AM |
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2. Trading of merits: Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
Trading merit is the main reason why newbies lose their accounts, but it's not a bad thing in the forum because it's the only way some people can move up the ranks. However, trading merit doesn't require you to trade something with someone and then ask them to send it back to you; instead, you just need to calm down and ask what the process is. The primary goal that some novices pursue on the forum and inside a forum is merit. You won't receive merit if you don't do anything to earn it. To persuade some senior members to grant you merit, you should create quality posts and excellent answers with insightful comments. Many people who have been here for longer than a month or a year are still in this position because they did not understand the forum. I have even witnessed a newbie trying to quit because he did not receive a merit and feels like he is wasting his time. I told him that everything needs to be patient and that if he understands the forum, he will receive merit in a way he did not anticipate. My advice to all newbies is to never give up on the forum; instead, keep trying until you achieve your goals.
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November 18, 2023, 01:54:10 PM |
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Trading merit is the main reason why newbies lose their accounts, but it's not a bad thing in the forum because it's the only way some people can move up the ranks. However, trading merit doesn't require you to trade something with someone and then ask them to send it back to you; instead, you just need to calm down and ask what the process is.
I hope you know there is a difference between trading merit and giving out merit freely to post’s that is worth it. Trading of merit is disallowed, lots of people’s accounts have been tagged on the forum here just because they were caught sending merits to their alt accounts, which is very wrong. The merits system wasn’t created because they wanted us to be trading our smerit. If you see any post that you believe is useful to you or the forum and you think it’s worth meriting, then you can merit it. What the OP means by trading merit is that you might receive a random message from a forum member asking you to send merit to them, then they will pay you back the amount of merit that was sent to them, and some will request merit from you, and they will offer to pay for the merit. Things like that are not allowed on the forum here, and if you are caught, your account is going to be tagged. The primary goal that some novices pursue on the forum and inside a forum is merit. You won't receive merit if you don't do anything to earn it. To persuade some senior members to grant you merit, you should create quality posts and excellent answers with insightful comments.
I can say most of the newbies on the forum are here because they just want to rank up their account and join signature campaigns, and they want to rank up their account without making any impact on the forum. Some of them don’t even care to go through the forum rules and regulations, which is why they end up going against forum rules and losing their accounts. If you join the forum primarily because of merit, I'm sure you won’t be getting merit, but if you join with the mindset to learn and make an impact on the forum, I'm sure gradually you are going to be able to accumulate merit. Many people who have been here for longer than a month or a year are still in this position because they did not understand the forum. I have even witnessed a newbie trying to quit because he did not receive a merit and feels like he is wasting his time. I told him that everything needs to be patient and that if he understands the forum, he will receive merit in a way he did not anticipate. My advice to all newbies is to never give up on the forum; instead, keep trying until you achieve your goals.
Any newbie that’s planning to give up because they didn’t receive merit is free to give up. We need people that are ready to make contributions to the forum, and the once that can make an impact on people, if you are here just because of merit, then you don’t have anything to offer. If you want to give up, you are free to do that, because even if you don't give up, you won't be receiving merit. We all know merit is not given anyhow, if you can’t make quality posts, then you won't be receiving merit, and don't be surprised that some quality posts don't even receive merit.
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November 18, 2023, 02:52:48 PM |
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I hope you know there is a difference between trading merit and giving out merit freely to post’s that is worth it. Trading of merit is disallowed, lots of people’s accounts have been tagged on the forum here just because they were caught sending merits to their alt accounts, which is very wrong. The merits system wasn’t created because they wanted us to be trading our smerit.
It is not disallowed by the forum. Users can do it and theymos said he knows there is dark market and if there is a dark market for merit exchange, he feels fine about it. Only forum community are against it, discourage it because it will create unfair forum where shit posters can rank up by buying or exchanging merit. The current status quo seems OK. If you have to pay $20 per merit plus a risk of getting red trust, then that's a situation that doesn't concern me at all. I'm not going to lose sleep over people going to ridiculous lengths to buy merit, since only a small number of people will be willing and able to do that.
As long as merit sales are a black market, I'm happy, since that makes it far more difficult and expensive to buy merit. If that's the case, then the small volume of black-market merit trades don't themselves bother me much, and I think that it does more harm than good to get too witch-hunty about it.
If you see any post that you believe is useful to you or the forum and you think it’s worth meriting, then you can merit it.
It is true according to Merit & new rank requirements I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by: - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc. - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.
While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.
Do not beg for merit excessively.
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November 18, 2023, 06:15:56 PM |
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2. Trading of merits: Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
Trading merit is the main reason why newbies lose their accounts, but it's not a bad thing in the forum because it's the only way some people can move up the ranks. However, trading merit doesn't require you to trade something with someone and then ask them to send it back to you; Trading merits is not the same as sending out your smerits to the post that deserves to be merited. Because when you are talking about merit trading, that is, when you send some of your smerits to someone and expect the return of the exact amount of smerit that you sent out, I have searched the forum and I didn’t see any where in which they said something like that is allowed to do, and you can see that we have some cases on the forum where they drag some account that they are abusing the merits system, so those people are the ones that do the thing you are talking about, and if it’s allowed to do, they won’t call them out for such cases. Many people who have been here for longer than a month or a year are still in this position because they did not understand the forum.
Understanding the forum is not the reason why some people did not receive merit; some people lack the knowledge on how to compose meaningful information that people give them merits, and you know merits are a reward for any helpful content on the forum, so those people still have a long way to go as they need to learn well so that they will know what the forum expects from them. They should write some meaningful content, and people will appreciate their effort by sending them merit. I hope you know there is a difference between trading merit and giving out merit freely to post’s that is worth it. Trading of merit is disallowed, lots of people’s accounts have been tagged on the forum here just because they were caught sending merits to their alt accounts, which is very wrong. The merits system wasn’t created because they wanted us to be trading our smerit.
It is not disallowed by the forum. Users can do it and theymos said he knows there is dark market and if there is a dark market for merit exchange, he feels fine about it. Only forum community are against it, discourage it because it will create unfair forum where shit posters can rank up by buying or exchanging Allowed? How and when? Because I haven’t come across anything like that, don’t you think this forum will not go as wanted again? We will lack meaningful content, and that is why people in the community did not support such an act. However, theymos said you will be the one to risk your account to get a red flag, which means you will risk your account, and from there, possibly you may lose your account if we find out that is what someone did to get to such a rank, so let me ask: did you want your account to get tagged?
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November 18, 2023, 07:47:08 PM |
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For the time I have been on this platform I have not really received any message from Amy newbie account or even established member asking me for merit or anything of such nature. From what you have said OP I believe you must have had such messages and I hope you don't mind quoting it here for us to see if possible.
Climbing up the ladder is not that easy here but with commitment and focus it would not be too cumbersome to achieve. The issue of burst posting I think should be left for managers to decide otherwise there are quality posts out there which might emanate from such and if we are to go by that measures, those post are good enough to earn merit which they eventually does.
I think the major thing we need to avoid as a member of this forum is not just avoid merit trading and burst posting, we also need to avoid plagiarism which is the major reasons why many accounts are been ban from the forum. If we get an article from a particular source, it is good for us to drop the link so that it is going to be obvious that the article is not actually written by us and it not our own work. Many people especially the newbies make this mistakes and finally see their account getting ban. Plagiarism are always been report by people that know how to catch those that like calming other people's work.
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November 18, 2023, 08:33:15 PM |
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I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.
1. Avoid burst posting: I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns. This doesn't apply to those who are not in any campaign. A newbies cannot be accepted into signature campaigns to this is ruled out for them. I think the best thing to say here is to avoid spamming as a newbie. And from my observations, spamming happens mostly in mega threads. Simply advise newbies to avoid threads that has past 15 pages. The only exception here is the football threads in the gambling boards and even as at this they should do it cautiously.
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November 21, 2023, 05:20:40 AM |
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When I look at the content of the thread and check the rank of OP, some things are not adding up here and needs close observation. This account could've possibly been bought by a lower rank member cos this post is exactly what a junior member or member can do. The post quality is a disappointment to all the respectable hero members in the forum and its the last word in quality. You are itemizing things that a newbie should avoid and these two are the only points you can itemize and they're not even applicable to beginners. with your rank in the forum, your years of experience is questionable my dear. Merrit trading is the most uncommon thing in the forum and not an advise for beginners, what they need are advises to learn better and engage more in forum activities. And lots have been pointed earlier though and there's no need to repeat them.
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Zanab247
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November 21, 2023, 06:00:06 AM |
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2. Trading of merits: Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
We all know in this Bitcointalk.org that merits are not for sale but any newbies engaging themselves in such activities in this platform, the punishment that is made for such rules will be serve to them. I believe many newbies that has received such DM for merits for sale before this trend or exchange other things with merits will start withdrawing their mind to such activities so that they will not fall victims to scammers or not to cause damage to their personal account because, if you distribut merits anyhow and, there are amount of merits you can distribute in a month and if you distribute more than that you will face the punishment. If you look very well as a newbies, you will discover that there are moderators in different discussion sectors in the platform and their duty is to check all the activities that is going on in the platform, and if there are some users disobeying the platform rules, they will be serve the punishment they deserve at the moment.
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Bravethug
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November 21, 2023, 12:36:08 PM |
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I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.
1. Avoid burst posting: I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.
I really don't think this is for a newbie therefore a review on the name of the subject of the post should be considered. Secondly what are the odds that a newbie will be active in participating for a weekly target for a bounty campaign as you put it. Is a newbie suppose to be in any campaign??? Pardon my intrusive and inquisitive question. 2. Trading of merits: Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
**Correction** "burst posting"
Apologies
receiving a PM from a random user asking you to pay for merits should be the first sign of a red flag except a person is solely fishing for merit, this shouldn't be of any interest to anyone as merits are earn based on the quality of the content that you've put out for consumption.
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November 21, 2023, 03:33:36 PM |
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~snip~
Op said that new members should not burst posting but they should not make any posts until they need to. A new member should read more to gather knowledge about the forum and the topic he is interested in. This forum is for sharing knowledge with one another but in most cases newbies who don't have any knowledge about the topic still try to create one either by taking information from google or by sharing misleading information. Most of the newbies won't follow this as a large number of them are here to join the signature campaign and some of the new accounts are alts of higher-ranking members.
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November 21, 2023, 03:43:35 PM |
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In my opinion, this message is a lesson for repetition, sometimes you need to be reminded repeatedly to remind or make it easier for newbies who have just joined the forum to avoid things that are prohibited on the forum. 1. Avoid burst posting:
Regarding consecutive posts, @mprep has reminded forum members in the Thread (Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ) contained in point number 32. 32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.
2. Trading of merits:
The merit system is not directly moderated by the forum, but moderators encourage people to give credit to posts that are objectively high quality, not just posts you agree with. [1]Merit trading is not recommended in forums because it will clash with the rules applied by the merit system in the forum. The case that befell this user can probably be guessed at where merit trading is heading. [2]1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.02. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=940276
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JunkieMiner
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November 22, 2023, 06:07:29 PM |
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The system of merit is quite encouraging for the users who are really trying for it and the users in the bitcointalk who really like to get the merit. They also get the reward at the end if they made a quality post and the better post which other users like the most and they users give them in return a merit. This is surely a good thing in the bitcointalk. Also it would be very nice for the person who is sending merit to the other if he gave his question answer. But asking for merit again and again without doing anything good is not a good habit indeed.
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Chilwell
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November 22, 2023, 06:26:45 PM |
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2. Trading of merits: Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account.
Are you sure about this? I have not received such message before. I have never received such kind of Message before since I joined this forum, and I don't believe it happens because anything we do here are all transparent and is the duty of every member of forum to protect it by reporting that person, awarding merits to anyone is not by anything but because of what the person have contributed to the forum, so if you are a good poster no need in trading merit it will come automatically, and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
Pay for merit? I will blame the newbies. Why buying merits? It is not different from buying an account. I quite agree with you, if I have money to buy merits then why can't I buy the all account, I don't see any sense of what he has said by saying they pay for merit, even though they are doing it definitely the merit buyer have to be a good poster and if the buyer is a good poster then what is the essence of buying merits, I know for sure no one can merit a shitpost and go free, without called to order.
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November 22, 2023, 07:17:50 PM |
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For the time I have been on this platform I have not really received any message from Amy newbie account or even established member asking me for merit or anything of such nature. From what you have said OP I believe you must have had such messages and I hope you don't mind quoting it here for us to see if possible.
Climbing up the ladder is not that easy here but with commitment and focus it would not be too cumbersome to achieve. The issue of burst posting I think should be left for managers to decide otherwise there are quality posts out there which might emanate from such and if we are to go by that measures, those post are good enough to earn merit which they eventually does.
I think the major thing we need to avoid as a member of this forum is not just avoid merit trading and burst posting, we also need to avoid plagiarism which is the major reasons why many accounts are been ban from the forum. If we get an article from a particular source, it is good for us to drop the link so that it is going to be obvious that the article is not actually written by us and it not our own work. Many people especially the newbies make this mistakes and finally see their account getting ban. Plagiarism are always been report by people that know how to catch those that like calming other people's work. You made a point here, mate. This aspect of plagiarism is what I initially thought the OP should have mentioned or included in his or her post so that newbies who come across this thread would see for themselves and know what is obtainable on the platform. The issue of plagiarism has cost many accounts here, and I must say that even after all this awareness, some would still fall victim to plagiarism. You cannot just copy an article from elsewhere and post it here for no reason without acknowledging the source of the writeup. It is termed intellectual theft, and it is punishable by law. This platform is also an educational platform, and there are scholars here too who might not like it if their work is captured without them being acknowledged. Plagiarism is punishable by law, so in that case, if accounts are banned here for the offense of plagiarism, I would not hold anything against the moderators but rather the poster who copied and failed to reference their copied work.
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November 22, 2023, 08:33:49 PM |
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For the time I have been on this platform I have not really received any message from Amy newbie account or even established member asking me for merit or anything of such nature. From what you have said OP I believe you must have had such messages and I hope you don't mind quoting it here for us to see if possible.
Climbing up the ladder is not that easy here but with commitment and focus it would not be too cumbersome to achieve. The issue of burst posting I think should be left for managers to decide otherwise there are quality posts out there which might emanate from such and if we are to go by that measures, those post are good enough to earn merit which they eventually does.
I think the major thing we need to avoid as a member of this forum is not just avoid merit trading and burst posting, we also need to avoid plagiarism which is the major reasons why many accounts are been ban from the forum. If we get an article from a particular source, it is good for us to drop the link so that it is going to be obvious that the article is not actually written by us and it not our own work. Many people especially the newbies make this mistakes and finally see their account getting ban. Plagiarism are always been report by people that know how to catch those that like calming other people's work. Plagiarism creates the biggest offense in the forum because its clearly a sign of dishonesty, owning the woks of others and claim it to be their own. Obviously, those who are caught doing this should go straight to banning permanently so they won't be able to deceive in the future. However, burst posting is not actually done by beginners since they are still not allowed participating in any signature campaign, but with merit trading, well there are actually number of members who are apparently resorting doing that which for me is very inappropriate and should be given proper sanction once proven in the forum.
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November 22, 2023, 09:02:49 PM |
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Even people who called themselves snr member and full member sometimes participate in some of these activities that is going on here you mentioned.
Indeed. Not only beginners, high rank members are also possible to do burst posting and trade merits. That's actually not only for beginners, but for all the forum members. Every member in this forum must avoid them, it will lead the bad impacts for our accounts. If we care about our accounts, simply avoid everything that are prohibited in this forum, not only burst posting and trading merits. Well i don't think doing numerous posts is bad but it depends. If someone did several posts and it is meaningful, I mean posts that will help the forum grow is not a bad one, the person deserves a merit. Even if the person post often in order to participate in anything and the posts are sensible and encouraging I don't think there's something wrong with it.
Sure. As long as the posts have good quality and meaningful, there is no problem with them. OP only warned the members who made low quality posts and meaningless posts. There are people who only focused on the quantity of their posts without thinking about the quality. It is what OP referred, we must avoid the bad behavior!!
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