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November 07, 2023, 01:04:18 PM
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Before now it was impossible to avoid advertisment on Facebook and Instagram.This has made it impossible for gamblers to avoid advert even when they have used control the ads options. Now Meta is giving users in the EU, EEA and Switzerland the choice to pay a monthly subscription to use Facebook and Instagram  without any ads. This special account can come for as high as €9.99/month on the web or €12.99/month on iOS and Android. Users can get this account this month and enjoy the package  

Although the subscription fees is high to some low income nations but I think it can held to reduce gambling disorderly behaviour. Some gamers are triggered to gamble uncontrollable because of advertisment so this package will help them gamble responsibly. According to a study carried out by Sheffield and Glasgow universities the more people are exposed to betting advertisment the more likely they are to gamble and the greater the risk of them developing a disorder. This package is also helpful because it will make gamblers avoid adverts from many scam casinos that are using these social media as platforms which will also reduce gambling disorder.

What are your thoughts?
The amount of people who will subscribe to this will be so very low, not enough to have an impact on anything. The only way they can push the amount of subscribers higher is degregating the free users experience, but im not sure they are willing to do that. Because lets keep in mind that the average age of a facebook user is quite high. Instagram is younger ofc but i have never had issues with ads on those platforms.
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November 07, 2023, 02:27:54 PM
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What are your thoughts?
As far as I know, Meta generally generates overall revenue from advertising. Even though Meta announced this, it doesn't apply to the whole, it only applies to the EU, EEA and Switzerland.
As far as I know, these are the points:
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Please note there will be no changes for users who do not wish to pay the new tax. Ad-supported experiences will remain available on both platforms.

No impact, those of us who live outside the EU, EEA, and Switzerland, still see gambling advertisements, on a large scale.

Even though the new rules will be implemented by Meta in March 2024, several countries have already taken firm action against META.
For example:
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"As of October 11, 2023 META has followed up on the strike by removing more than 1.65 million gambling content as well as more than 450,000 gambling ads targeting users".

So in my opinion, the META rules will not run smoothly, the ad will still run, unless: do as I quoted above.

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November 07, 2023, 02:52:58 PM
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What are your thoughts?
As far as I know, Meta generally generates overall revenue from advertising. Even though Meta announced this, it doesn't apply to the whole, it only applies to the EU, EEA and Switzerland.
As far as I know, these are the points:
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Please note there will be no changes for users who do not wish to pay the new tax. Ad-supported experiences will remain available on both platforms.

No impact, those of us who live outside the EU, EEA, and Switzerland, still see gambling advertisements, on a large scale.

Even though the new rules will be implemented by Meta in March 2024, several countries have already taken firm action against META.
For example:
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"As of October 11, 2023 META has followed up on the strike by removing more than 1.65 million gambling content as well as more than 450,000 gambling ads targeting users".

So in my opinion, the META rules will not run smoothly, the ad will still run, unless: do as I quoted above.

Those who are outside those countries are just going to keep resisting the temptation of those ads. They could avoid social media if they want, but these days everyone is on Facebook.  It's like you live in isolation if you are not found on facebook and the majority of the people today are relying on social media for the daily news.

However, even if they live in EU, EEA, and Switzerland there are still videos on facebook where gambling-related ads are hard coded. There are subtitles that provide links to casinos. These are hardcore combatant spammers.


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November 07, 2023, 02:58:44 PM
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Although the subscription fees is high to some low income nations but I think it can held to reduce gambling disorderly behaviour. Some gamers are triggered to gamble uncontrollable because of advertisment so this package will help them gamble responsibly. According to a study carried out by Sheffield and Glasgow universities the more people are exposed to betting advertisment the more likely they are to gamble and the greater the risk of them developing a disorder. This package is also helpful because it will make gamblers avoid adverts from many scam casinos that are using these social media as platforms which will also reduce gambling disorder.

What are your thoughts?
I love how you have written this very clearly. I would say that from my personal opinion if your Facebook account is not for business purposes or Instagram account for business purposes there is no need for you to be on that platform because you would be very unproductive just scrolling and scrolling and scrolling. As for the money required to pay to stop seeing gambling ads I feel that this is a rip-off. People shouldn't have to pay for something they do not want to see rather they should be given the option of clicking yes I want to see this ad or no I do not want to continue seeing this ad it would cost nothing. Summarily, any gambler whose business isn't on Facebook, Instagram or any other social media should rather they the hell away from them than pay this rip off.

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November 07, 2023, 03:31:51 PM
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I have no problem with the ads and I will not opt to subscribe because there is no need if you can ignore all these ads and concentrate on the topics that you are interested in in your feeds, you are a chronic gambler if you are easily attracted to gambling banners which I am not.

We all know we are the product on social media because they are selling ads for projects like gambling and besides there is an option to hide or control those ads so you will only see what kind of ads you want to see in your feeds.

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November 07, 2023, 05:00:22 PM
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What are your thoughts?

My thoughts is I agree on what you way about people being able to feel craving for gambling if can pay their way out of it. But to be honest, I also need to say that fee is too high for people living in the developing world, which is quite a problem since people suffering from gambling addiction while living in those countries may be those who need the most to avoid being triggered by advertisement on Facebook and Telegram.

Also, as far as I understand big technological companies like Google, Facebook and Microsoft give you the option to opt out the customized ads, so one as user will only receive generic ones, that may be an option for problem gamblers who are struggling with whatever they see while trying to fine good reels on Instagram.

Here I found a short tutorial on how to do it, not sure whether it is still posible or not, though

https://www.wikihow.com/Stop-Targeted-Ads-on-Instagram

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November 07, 2023, 05:05:24 PM
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What are your thoughts?

AFAIK, you will only receive gambling related ads if you view gambling related content on your wall or when you search it by yourself. I never encounter any gambling ads on both facebook and instagram because I’m not interested on viewing that content. I believe erasing your search history and unfollowing gambling related content will save you from ads instead of paying this kind of fee.

Facebook use smart ads targeting to distribute ads to user that shows interest on it. I only saw gambling ads on my youtube account since I watch gambling highlights in there frequently.

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On the one hand, I really don’t like intrusive advertising, but on the other hand, I well understand developers who are forced to introduce advertising to monetize their products. Personally, I am not ready to pay money to disable advertising, no matter what it is. I really find some products useful, so I try to watch advertisements. But this does not apply to products from the META company, because... they only took away my free time and I completely abandoned them.

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November 07, 2023, 05:42:10 PM
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That's a great way to earn more revenue for Meta. Though I agree that the subscription can be useful for some people, especially those who find ads annoying and can afford to pay that much to get rid of them, I don't think someone would pay money to avoid seeing gambling ads just because that might make them gamble after seeing that. So, the subscription isn't mainly for people to avoid gambling or gaming ads but it is so that they can have a seamless experience.

And as far as I know, gambling related services and gambling ads were not allowed on Meta, and if this thing was specifically for this purpose, they could just increase the restrictions and filter gambling and gambling related ads from the platform and also close down the pages promoting gambling.

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November 07, 2023, 06:27:27 PM
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What are your thoughts?

My teacher? Well, it's good that Facebook has such an option for those in the EU. It's a matter of choice here, so those who don't want to see ads can just sacrifice the money and pay the ads off for themselves. But another question that I have to ask is: is it only the EU that has the permission to pay for this ADS-free service for Facebook and Instagram? Because they are not the only people who might need to get a ride from such advertisements.
 
Left to me alone, I don't see gambling ads as something that can make me gamble when I don't want to gamble, and secondly, how many hours of the day do I even spend on social media on a daily basis that I can be seeing those ads often? Few times that I have seen ads on Facebook while streaming videos, there is always a warning before the ad display starts, so anyone who doesn't want to view ads can just close the window or stop doing whatever they are doing for that moment, and the ads won't be forced to view on their account.

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people in recent months have constantly talked about gambling in a negative way but forget to mention the positive side of gambling, let's look at this forum, particularly in this section, we are in a gambling section, in which there are many casinos who came to advertise on this forum and also the casinos hired many members to participate in their signature campaigns. So I ask:

How many people who participate in casino signature campaigns are addicted to gambling?

Could it be that because we have many casinos on this forum, we also have thousands of people addicted to gambling because of the forum?

From what I see every day on this forum, people who participate in casino signature campaigns have never said that they have become addicted to gambling, so I assume that we don't have gambling addicts because of the campaign signatures related to casinos on the forum. So why can't you see casino advertising on Facebook and Instagram? There's nothing wrong with casinos. People have the brain to decide what is good or bad for them. I see some people saying that casinos shouldn't have advertising on Facebook and Instagram because they would be a bad influence on people

But let's look at Facebook and Instagram, what is moral and ethical on Facebook and Instagram? half - naked people and something good? on Instagram it has become normal for women to be almost naked and people don't criticize that, but they criticize casinos. I ask: is it a good influence for children to watch Instagram and Facebook? Are Instagram and Facebook good influences for people? In my opinion, they are not a good influence. In my opinion, casinos should not be banned from paying for advertising on social media

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November 07, 2023, 07:15:34 PM
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9.99–12.99 a month? That's absurd. So Meta is creating their own problems and then asking the users to pay in order to fix the problem. Just marvalous. I understand that Meta's big revenue comes from ad campaigns. But despite that, users should have some control over which types of ads they want to see. If I were in your shoes, I would have stooped using Facebook and Instagram. They do nothing but waste our time. How much money do they need? They are already selling our informations.
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November 07, 2023, 07:22:43 PM
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To be honest, just clean your cache and history browser.

Should be gone for the ads about gambling, since we all know (ads) are based of our activity. If most the ads about gambling, that's mean we always search it the only things is to just make restriction.

Pay around 1000 Euro/years for these. Heck no.

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November 07, 2023, 07:48:51 PM
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Before now it was impossible to avoid advertisment on Facebook and Instagram.This has made it impossible for gamblers to avoid advert even when they have used control the ads options. Now Meta is giving users in the EU, EEA and Switzerland the choice to pay a monthly subscription to use Facebook and Instagram  without any ads. This special account can come for as high as €9.99/month on the web or €12.99/month on iOS and Android. Users can get this account this month and enjoy the package  

Although the subscription fees is high to some low income nations but I think it can held to reduce gambling disorderly behaviour. Some gamers are triggered to gamble uncontrollable because of advertisment so this package will help them gamble responsibly. According to a study carried out by Sheffield and Glasgow universities the more people are exposed to betting advertisment the more likely they are to gamble and the greater the risk of them developing a disorder. This package is also helpful because it will make gamblers avoid adverts from many scam casinos that are using these social media as platforms which will also reduce gambling disorder.

What are your thoughts?
These companies is really just trying to rake out money as much as they could or as possible as they could and since they do have the full rights on what should really be integrated on the site then so be it.
Somehow this is really just that optional and really just that relevant for those people who are really that addicted to gambling then they would really be finding this to be useful. Spending or paying up
10 bucks a month would really be that something to be considered. It is really just that there are really people who are really that skeptical on spending even if its cheap because they do really have
that kind of feeling about being robbed or simply they are been abused. lol

Its optional and its true that you would most likely be able to gamble again if you are an addicted person knowing that nowadays we do really love on hanging out or visiting Facebook and other social
media on which it is really just that good that ads on related to gambling should really be cut out if you are really that serious on quitting.
Of course it wont really be that guaranteed effective but at least you have done something against it.

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November 07, 2023, 08:23:38 PM
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Before now it was impossible to avoid advertisment on Facebook and Instagram.This has made it impossible for gamblers to avoid advert even when they have used control the ads options. Now Meta is giving users in the EU, EEA and Switzerland the choice to pay a monthly subscription to use Facebook and Instagram  without any ads. This special account can come for as high as €9.99/month on the web or €12.99/month on iOS and Android. Users can get this account this month and enjoy the package  
Every platform is moving on subscription model. For example, there are so many ads on Youtube that it's hard to see the footage. Btw I think that this subscription model that gets rid of advertisement will have a negative affect on advertisers because they won't be able to reach to their full audience or will miss some good customers.

Aren't gambling ads banned on Instagram and Facebook? It's surprising to me that gambling ads are still allowed on FB and IG.
Casinos are allowed to advertise on Facebook only under their prior permission - https://transparency.fb.com/en-gb/policies/ad-standards/content-specific-restrictions/gambling/

I will use the €9.99 to €19.99 to gamble instead  Grin. In my country, that is not small amount of money, but I can still use it to gamble to have some fun as my weekly income is far more than that.
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November 07, 2023, 08:34:25 PM
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Before now it was impossible to avoid advertisment on Facebook and Instagram.This has made it impossible for gamblers to avoid advert even when they have used control the ads options. Now Meta is giving users in the EU, EEA and Switzerland the choice to pay a monthly subscription to use Facebook and Instagram  without any ads. This special account can come for as high as €9.99/month on the web or €12.99/month on iOS and Android. Users can get this account this month and enjoy the package  

Although the subscription fees is high to some low income nations but I think it can held to reduce gambling disorderly behaviour. Some gamers are triggered to gamble uncontrollable because of advertisment so this package will help them gamble responsibly. According to a study carried out by Sheffield and Glasgow universities the more people are exposed to betting advertisment the more likely they are to gamble and the greater the risk of them developing a disorder. This package is also helpful because it will make gamblers avoid adverts from many scam casinos that are using these social media as platforms which will also reduce gambling disorder.

What are your thoughts?

It's actually been very easy to avoid any adverts on these platforms for a long time via the many advertising blockers out there which you can install on your browser, without having to pay any sort of subscription. Considering Youtube, after decades, has only just figured out how to block such users it is very unlikely that Facebook and similar have clocked on to it either. I don't use Facebook much, but would imagine that gambling ads are fairly restricted and not really wanted by Facebook, as they draw in too much unnecessary scrutiny from regulators. Things like games with add-ons and upgrades already draw in enough money from susceptible users that they don't need to push the boundaries.

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November 07, 2023, 09:40:32 PM
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If you have gambling disorder why not stay off Facebook and other social media platforms? Is it a must for them or what?

If you are addicted to gambling you should just stop using any platform that supports gambling ads and promotions, go back to the real world and spend countless time with your friends and family, if making money is why you get addicted to gambling you should start learning a new skill.

You say this like it's very easy for them,
It's just easy for you to say because you've never been there, people who have this gambling disorder doesn't think about nothing else other than gambling, sometimes I don't even know if they normally do an evaluation of how much they've lost on the course of gambling, always interested in how much they stand to gain and that makes them blind to the risks involved in it.

It's really not easy as you say it, it would only take self discipline and self control to escape such a disaster.

 And what if they also rely on those social media apps for possible predictions and informations on good chances of winning, do you think it would be easy for them to just avoid those social media apps? I guess not. So it's really not as easy as you just put it.

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November 08, 2023, 11:17:32 AM
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What are your thoughts?

To me, it's not fair to ban gambling ads when other potentially harmful products like alcohol and tobacco are still allowed to be advertised. I have few questions to ask concerning this by the way, If people can choose to block certain types of ads, where does it end? Could people start blocking other types of content like political ads or ads for specific brands? And who gets to decide what content can be blocked? What I see here is just a way for these social media platforms to make more money at the detriment of these gambling platforms. Stopping these ads will not have much effect on those who have already developed gambling disorder because they are not gambling with the influence of these ads. It will only be of help to those who are still new in the system. Absolutely a waste of money to subscribe for it.

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November 08, 2023, 11:26:48 AM
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Before now it was impossible to avoid advertisment on Facebook and Instagram.This has made it impossible for gamblers to avoid advert even when they have used control the ads options. Now Meta is giving users in the EU, EEA and Switzerland the choice to pay a monthly subscription to use Facebook and Instagram  without any ads. This special account can come for as high as €9.99/month on the web or €12.99/month on iOS and Android. Users can get this account this month and enjoy the package  

Although the subscription fees is high to some low income nations but I think it can held to reduce gambling disorderly behaviour. Some gamers are triggered to gamble uncontrollable because of advertisment so this package will help them gamble responsibly. According to a study carried out by Sheffield and Glasgow universities the more people are exposed to betting advertisment the more likely they are to gamble and the greater the risk of them developing a disorder. This package is also helpful because it will make gamblers avoid adverts from many scam casinos that are using these social media as platforms which will also reduce gambling disorder.

What are your thoughts?

The only one paying for that is those parents who want their child to stay away on gambling, but any other than this for sure regular people will not give a damn paying for something that not useful to them. And I don't see anything in need for paying since for me its fine if we can see gambling ads or not since it all matter for those people who see if they would try what they see or simply ignore those videos that been promoted by social media influencers. Subscription fee is really high so for that for sure many people would think twice availing that since for sure they will just use their money on other thing that has sense to them rather paying those subscription on a social media sites which they can't actually use.

Reducing gambling activities can be learn thru experiences or advices so its really up for a person on how he gonna take what they see on internet.

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November 08, 2023, 12:49:05 PM
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It all depends on the user. If they don't mind seeing advertisements on their homepage, they don't need to complain about them to Facebook, but it is Facebook's job to try to provide relevant advertisements to its users. Some people may want to pay a subscription fee without ads, but I don't want to pay that subscription fee because I don't mind if there are ads on my home page. Besides, I could ignore the ad and wouldn't be interested in ads, let alone gambling ads. Reducing disorderly gambling behavior depends on each person so that if they see a gambling advertisement on the Facebook homepage, they can ignore it and will not be tempted to visit the casino site. But many people are still tempted and end up pressing the link and being directed to the casino. From there, they started playing gambling and discovered that there was something different because they used money to play gambling games.

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