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November 10, 2023, 09:18:04 PM |
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Doing everything you can to make sure that it's only you who have access will go a long way. That's a good practice that you need to tell your family or friends that you want to be protected. If you can continue like that and have your necessary things for crypto, then you are safe.
Sometimes, we need to be wary of the things we visit and the possible source of hack or something. The best way is to have a hardware wallet that could protect your holdings.
We need to protect our privacy most especially when it comes to the security of our investments. If it means its safest not to disclose to other family members that we are into bitcoin investment, then let's do it for security purposes. You are not only protecting your private keys to your investment, but you are generally protecting yourself away from danger. Saying out loud that you are currently into bitcoin is a big mistake, that will only trigger the people around to keep an eye on you so they can steal whatever they can. Most especially when it comes to your private keys, just keep it to yourself and by putting your coins in a hardware wallet, the rate of security becomes high.
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SatoPrincess
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November 10, 2023, 10:56:14 PM |
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The first wallet that I ever opened, which I ignorantly misplaced the piece of paper where I wrote the password that very day without knowing, and the seed phrase that I saw later wasn't complete, I still have the coinomi wallet and the bitcoin inside it, but I can not send it. I only use the bitcoin inside the wallet to see price fluctuations, nothing more. It is a very important and bitter lesson for me anytime that is open it. Now that bitcoin price is pumping, I can only watch it grow without selling it, probably forever.
Coinomi is not a very good wallet to use to hodl bitcoins, I hope you’re no longer using that wallet and have moved to a open source non custodial wallet like Electrum or Unstoppable. Any wallet that restricts your transaction just because of a password isn’t truly decentralized, you can set a password in Electrum but it’s limited to only that device, meaning even if you forget the password, you can use your seed phrase to open the wallet in another device, and that password will not be required.
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November 10, 2023, 11:25:22 PM |
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What on earth could make anyone tell another person his/her seed phrase over the phone? That’s doesn’t make sense.
So many things could make someone do that, stupidity or the person must have been high on something who knows or he must have been under a spell. Some people choose to do that because of love, I don't know about you if you can. To you it doesn't make sense but they might use it as a means to know how trustworthy that person on the receiving end is, sometimes they can say a wrong seed phrase to check if that person is worth it. To me I don't think is even advisable to do such unless the person in question is on his dying bed🤔, he could just let it out to the person he chooses to.
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November 11, 2023, 11:17:44 AM |
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What on earth could make anyone tell another person his/her seed phrase over the phone? That’s doesn’t make sense.
So many things could make someone do that, stupidity or the person must have been high on something who knows or he must have been under a spell. Some people choose to do that because of love, I don't know about you if you can. To you it doesn't make sense but they might use it as a means to know how trustworthy that person on the receiving end is, sometimes they can say a wrong seed phrase to check if that person is worth it. To me I don't think is even advisable to do such unless the person in question is on his dying bed🤔, he could just let it out to the person he chooses to. You know people often don't realize how important it is to keep their recovery seed private. Even if you store your crypto in a cold wallet, if someone has access to your recovery seed they can steal your funds. Protecting recovery seed and never sharing it with anyone no matter what is very necessary and even if you're completely alone, it's not a good idea to say your recovery seed out loud talk more of making phone calls. The simplest solution to prevent people from losing their private keys is to be more careful and improve their security levels. They should also try to make majority of Thier crypto related priors offline especially hodlings this can be achieved by making use of cold wallets like air gapped wallet which are totally offline.
You're right, cold wallets like trezor and ledger nano are a great way to store cryptocurrency offline because it's not too vulnerable to online attacks but you know cold storage is just one part of a comprehensive security strategy. You also need to be careful about the way you access your crypto, how you store your passwords, and how you share information online because even if you have the most secure cold wallet in the world, you could still be vulnerable to social engineering attacks or other scams if care is not taken.
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November 11, 2023, 01:02:28 PM |
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Lastly, whenever you work on your recovery seed, put your mobile phones in another room, put a tape over your webcams as an added security measures and never do anything with your Bitcoin in a public space like McDonald's or Chicken Republic that is full of listening devices. Don't be carried away.
Maybe at last, bitcoin is going to be the teacher of many who don't know how to handle things privately learn from their lessons, it's not funny that some people were just being do careless in handling things, even to the extent of thise things that are sensitive for them to hide, instead they go about explosing them in the public, things like this will teach so many people a lesson and henceforth they wouldn't go about mishandling relevant things of such which should be guided by all means from any third party influence for privacy and security measures.
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November 11, 2023, 02:12:29 PM |
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The first wallet that I ever opened, which I ignorantly misplaced the piece of paper where I wrote the password that very day without knowing, and the seed phrase that I saw later wasn't complete, I still have the coinomi wallet and the bitcoin inside it, but I can not send it. I only use the bitcoin inside the wallet to see price fluctuations, nothing more. It is a very important and bitter lesson for me anytime that is open it. Now that bitcoin price is pumping, I can only watch it grow without selling it, probably forever.
Coinomi is not a very good wallet to use to hodl bitcoins, I hope you’re no longer using that wallet and have moved to a open source non custodial wallet like Electrum or Unstoppable. Any wallet that restricts your transaction just because of a password isn’t truly decentralized, you can set a password in Electrum but it’s limited to only that device, meaning even if you forget the password, you can use your seed phrase to open the wallet in another device, and that password will not be required. As a matter of fact, it was you, SatoPrincess, that sent the bitcoin, three different times in that coinomi wallet, when i won your btc reward for best quality poster in our local board. I'm sure you'd be disappointed that I'll probably never sell the btc that you rewarded me. I still feel bad anytime i open that wallet, knowing that I might never sell the bitcoin inside. But is there any way that I can convince the coinomi admin that the only sender of btc in that wallet can testify with proof that I sent her the coinomi segwith address, and she sent btc to it three different times? I'm very sure that I have the correct coinomi seed phrase, still the wallet will tell me anytime that i tried opening it, that i should check for wrong spelling. So I'm still using this opportunity to ask if anybody on this forum has had a similar experience like this before? I just opened the coinomi wallet and wrote the passwords down somewhere, it was months later when I wanted to sell the btc rewards from SatoPrincess, that I realized that I've misplaced the paper where I wrote the passwords. Luckily I saw the seed phrase, but you've had how the story goes. I can only blame my ignorance if I'm forever not able to sale the btc inside the wallet
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November 11, 2023, 04:08:36 PM |
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When I saw this topic I asked myself why would someone say his seed phrase or private keys out loud. But on a second thought, I've come across some persons, when they want to store a number on their phone or when they want to recharge their airtime account, they are always fond of saying it out loud. I find this odd but it's what it is.
With listening devices now embedded on some smart devices, there's the possibility that such category of persons might ignorantly say out their seed phrase when importing to a wallet and this could cost them their funds.
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SatoPrincess
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November 11, 2023, 04:38:41 PM |
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What on earth could make anyone tell another person his/her seed phrase over the phone? That’s doesn’t make sense.
So many things could make someone do that, stupidity or the person must have been high on something who knows or he must have been under a spell. Some people choose to do that because of love, I don't know about you if you can. To you it doesn't make sense but they might use it as a means to know how trustworthy that person on the receiving end is, sometimes they can say a wrong seed phrase to check if that person is worth it. To me I don't think is even advisable to do such unless the person in question is on his dying bed🤔, he could just let it out to the person he chooses to. I don’t know if someone can be hypnotized to tell you their seed phrase, I believe I’ve read a topic about it on here but I can’t remember right now. I don’t think it’s a good idea to test a person’s loyalty with your seed phrase, even if the wallet is empty or the whole thing was a trick. How would you even know if the person had access to the wallet if he doesn’t move the coins in it? It’s a poor test of judgement, my friend. And adversely your actions may breed contempt in the other party. When I saw this topic I asked myself why would someone say his seed phrase or private keys out loud. But on a second thought, I've come across some persons, when they want to store a number on their phone or when they want to recharge their airtime account, they are always fond of saying it out loud. I find this odd but it's what it is.
These instances you mentioned are not the same as saying aloud your password or sensitive information. I find it hard to believe anyone would actually do this in real life and believe me I have read a lot of stories about mistakes made by newbies. This one just seems so dumb.
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Sexylizzy2813
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November 12, 2023, 02:59:10 PM |
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You know people often don't realize how important it is to keep their recovery seed private. Even if you store your crypto in a cold wallet, if someone has access to your recovery seed they can steal your funds. Protecting recovery seed and never sharing it with anyone no matter what is very necessary and even if you're completely alone, it's not a good idea to say your recovery seed out loud talk more of making phone calls.
Things you least expect happens, some people can play with it while saying everything about it without thinking it would be used for stealing the funds. Ignorance is what get the best out of so many people these days. No matter how hard we preach about this people still see no reason to hide it like their life depends on it, some still believe that they have someone they could tell their secret without it going side ways.
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November 12, 2023, 09:42:25 PM |
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Your gadgets could be the spy agents too.
Lastly, whenever you work on your recovery seed, put your mobile phones in another room, put a tape over your webcams as an added security measures and never do anything with your Bitcoin in a public space like McDonald's or Chicken Republic that is full of listening devices. Don't be carried away.
Whatever it happens, indeed, things related to private keys or seed phrases or other important data are very dangerous if we don't store them properly, and also if we underestimate their storage. Not only that, we also have to be wary of the various things we post on social media, because that is where many hackers or scammers start their actions. It is true that storing important data in the online cloud can be at risk of hacking and this can be guaranteed if our assets are in a dangerous condition. Make sure to implement a double security system so that this will at least help secure your assets. Don't trust anyone, especially if they ask for your private key or password for any reason, never give it.
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November 12, 2023, 09:53:52 PM |
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The name already suggest that it shouldn't be shared publicly it wouldn't make sense if you if it is not to be keep private. This is the same as password where you are the only one who knows about it and shouldn't be shared so that no one else can access your account. In crypto wallet, never sharing your PRIVATE key means your assets will be safe. Many of us already knows that there are ways to get your password so that means there are also ways to get your private key when it's online that's why keeping your private key or seed phrase offline or using metal then it should be safe.
The fact that its considered a private key, then no one is allowed to know about it but definitely only YOU. That's why you should keep its security always high so that other people will never have an edge to steal it from you. But if you are the one making a move to reveal your private keys to someone whom you highly trusted, maybe for now your account might be safe but you don't know in the future if it will still be safe knowing its not private anymore. This is why if you can't keep your privacy for long, then never engage in certain investments that need some privacy. Otherwise, you will only put your investments at risk because you fail to keep your private keys stay in private for the longest time.
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November 12, 2023, 11:46:59 PM |
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Lastly, whenever you work on your recovery seed, put your mobile phones in another room, put a tape over your webcams as an added security measures and never do anything with your Bitcoin in a public space like McDonald's or Chicken Republic that is full of listening devices. Don't be carried away.
Maybe at last, bitcoin is going to be the teacher of many who don't know how to handle things privately learn from their lessons, it's not funny that some people were just being do careless in handling things, even to the extent of thise things that are sensitive for them to hide, instead they go about exposing them in the public, things like this will teach so many people a lesson and henceforth they wouldn't go about mishandling relevant things of such which should be guided by all means from any third party influence for privacy and security measures. Yes bitcoin have thought me alot about privacy and how to handle it in the most secured manner and no doubt about the fact that it will have though so many of her the same thing since privacy and security is one of the key features of Bitcoin, since bitcoin gives us the chance to hold our assets in the most secrecy manner and without third-party interference, reason why many of the bitcoin holders will not even want to expose their private keys to any third party. And this makes to to work out modalities to protect their keys from intruder, and most especially when there have funds in those wallet, they won't risk such vital aspect of the wallet security which exposes their funds.
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Sexylizzy2813
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November 13, 2023, 04:56:05 AM |
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I don’t know if someone can be hypnotized to tell you their seed phrase, I believe I’ve read a topic about it on here but I can’t remember right now. I don’t think it’s a good idea to test a person’s loyalty with your seed phrase, even if the wallet is empty or the whole thing was a trick. How would you even know if the person had access to the wallet if he doesn’t move the coins in it? It’s a poor test of judgement, my friend. And adversely your actions may breed contempt in the other party.
Are you serious? To hypnotize or use of spell is the simplest way I think one can tell about their seed phrase and other things in general. With that happening I don't think there's much work to do. Some people can go to any length to gain the trust of the one person they feel they love or feel they trust, it mustn't be that it must be with the seed phrase, the wallet can be empty too like you said but they'd monitor how thing goes after exposing it. In some cases to make it more tempting they'd let a little amount to be in the wallet just to carry on with the test. I too don't fancy such test, but you can't change or tell why some people go to that extent to gain trust by revealing their seed phrase.
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November 13, 2023, 05:27:11 AM |
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Their is something that is involved in a recovery seed of wallet, a recovery seed or private key is not something people exposed out there because when you exposed your private that means you are attracting penetrative to your wallet, sometimes you will be mindful of your private key knowing that your private key is what protects your funds and it don't need to be exposed and you don't need to save it online
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November 14, 2023, 05:49:05 AM |
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So it is very important never to say your recovery seed out loud since you just can't figure out at this age, who's listening or watching you whilst you're alone in your bedroom with your gadgets. Don't mention your recovery seed in a phone conversation with a friend or family, even when you're calling through end-to-end encrypted applications such as WhatsApp.
Well, I try as much as possible not to even have thought about telling anyone my private key because I doubt that it is necessary in the first place. If you have accumulated bitcoin already in your wallet, exposing your private key to the public is just like giving a literal key to an hidden box containing your wealth, there is a very high chance that your wealth would be stolen from you as a result of that carelesss. The thing is that smart people are every where and just by making one or two statement, one can know much about you. You don't even need to do a long introduction about your self before someone gets to know who you are at this age. They can just look at the apps in your phone and within split seconds they know much about you, are calling out your private key could be very detrimental to you.
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November 14, 2023, 06:20:36 AM |
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I don’t know if someone can be hypnotized to tell you their seed phrase, I believe I’ve read a topic about it on here but I can’t remember right now. I don’t think it’s a good idea to test a person’s loyalty with your seed phrase, even if the wallet is empty or the whole thing was a trick. How would you even know if the person had access to the wallet if he doesn’t move the coins in it? It’s a poor test of judgement, my friend. And adversely your actions may breed contempt in the other party.
Are you serious? To hypnotize or use of spell is the simplest way I think one can tell about their seed phrase and other things in general. With that happening I don't think there's much work to do. Some people can go to any length to gain the trust of the one person they feel they love or feel they trust, it mustn't be that it must be with the seed phrase, the wallet can be empty too like you said but they'd monitor how thing goes after exposing it. In some cases to make it more tempting they'd let a little amount to be in the wallet just to carry on with the test. I too don't fancy such test, but you can't change or tell why some people go to that extent to gain trust by revealing their seed phrase. I can remember reading here a quite famous case of a person who lost and forgot his seed and, with the help pf hypnosis he was able to remember the words, or at least that's what he was trying. It was long ago that I read it so I can't remember the detail. But, what is sure is that it wasn't "a spell" on a hodler. I'm quite skeptical about the kind of hypnosis Sexylizzy2813 is talking about, and I think that to be really effective, hypnosis must be agreed by the subject. Maybe if you talked about being manipulated in order to tell the seed... one must be really silly to do that, but don't underestimate the human stupidity: social engineering is a thing for one reason.
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November 14, 2023, 07:20:42 AM |
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Never share your personal things with others. I don't share anything personal with my family members so why should I tell others about my personal matters. I like to keep things personal in everything. If someone else knows your secret, he won't mind hurting your secret. Your wallet or anything else you should only know your privacy everywhere. Today, maybe a friend or a loved one trusted and shared personal information of their wallet, but if the relationship with them is about to deteriorate, they will definitely harm you, so you should be extremely careful in doing such stupid things.
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November 14, 2023, 09:30:01 AM |
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Let your things be personal, your room, your things, your PC and phone must always be private, there is this one thing that's common with people, once you give them a pass into your private space they will come through other day without asking for your permission, there are friends that I have break up with because of this habit, there are times to play and there are times to work, if all your friends don't know this, they will make your life a miserable one.
People need to understand that privacy is key when you are making a living even out of crypto space, do not be vulnerable or people will take advantage of you, I have my personal PC and there is no one that I can ever let on my PC, not even my friends, because I don't trust anyone, if you are known to be into Bitcoin investment it's possible that you will be target.
I think it's better to avoid letting people know that you are into crypto investment, this will make you safer from people with bad plans, I read about some binance staffs that was rob at gun point and they are all asked to offload all their coins themselves, they are been target, be careful out there.
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November 14, 2023, 07:04:36 PM |
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I am sure no man in this world will say out their recovery key, and it's almost impossible to talk about the private key, especially Bitcoin Wallet.
It is only someone who is visually impaired that may have their electronic device say there private key out loud that in my estimation estimation is a unique case. However for the majority of people out there, no one says or even hums their private keys out loud whether consciously or not. The thing that most people do is to which they should guard against is taking a screenshot of it and saving it to their gallery or sending it to their WhatsApp. I think it's better to avoid letting people know that you are into crypto investment, this will make you safer from people with bad plans, I read about some binance staffs that was rob at gun point and they are all asked to offload all their coins themselves, they are been target, be careful out there.
This is difficult. We are social animals. If you are into cryptocurrencies you must belong to a group of like minded people. Therefore it is difficult to avoid letting people know that you are into crypto investment. The way to do this is to know who you share your Bitcoin news and strategies with wherever you find yourself.
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November 14, 2023, 08:29:27 PM |
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I was looking at any possible solution and understanding of the scam, but still can't find any possible solution. I had noticed something in the online software that can be installed in the windows and we can use in Laptop which include different one like Filmora, Like other type of screen recorder and video editors we are using, and when we download it online then it also gives us a type of patch through which it is verified and then we can use it without any type of watermark. But I have noticed my wallet has been hacked which i was using for Airdrops and then my fund especially BNB was transferred. But I think that is due to the patch we installed in these software's.
Any possible solution for that? If we use it and can't get affected?
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