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November 09, 2023, 10:09:54 PM
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Anyway the main point is, do we successfully get out of this nearly unharmed? There isn't a metric to gauge any of this happening.

We are just people who enjoy development and economic progress. We are not the main actor in economic sustainability, both nationally and globally. We do not have businesses that play an active role in the economy and trade which can affect the economy as a whole. We are just a society that depends on a company to continue to have income to survive, so the steps and decisions taken by economic and trade leaders greatly affect us and will have an impact on our economic and financial stability. Because we are not the people who can regulate an economic system, but we are only people who are victims of an economic system.

And it's impossible for us to get out of this situation well. In making a decision, of course there are risks and challenges that we have to face. It could be that the risks and challenges will be greater than we previously thought. But even so, we must not be discouraged and continue to do our best to get out of this situation.

And today's quote; "if you fall, then keep trying until no one else can bring you down"

Whatever the time we are going to face, we cannot stop it because the situation is like that. Instead of avoiding it, it is better to face it, unless we are not ready to face it. That is where the thing comes in: we must avoid it for the time being. then to face when we know we are ready.

That's why it should always move forward, not backward; that's how it's always been, right? The lift we seek is always forward or up, not down. As long as we always hold on to the desire that we want to achieve in life.


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November 09, 2023, 10:41:18 PM
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That season has given us the wild ride, both positive and negative and that has given the best and worst on this market and also from the world. The best is like when the exposé of those real scammers in the community that has taken sums of money from the innocent users and swindled everyone, like was successfully made us a fool that they're the angels of the market. But lo and behold, they're the real devils that have planned it all along. And going with the real world incidents, it's like an actual reset for the majority but what I don't like from this scene is that the rich became richer.   Undecided
That was really a terrible one. A lot of of new projects were hyped that time that made us really excited to invest on the high potential ones but only to find out that those development teams suddenly shut down those projects and disappear in the market. Lucky are those who were never tempted to risk their money but a lot of those who have lost their money in an instant.

This incident had made me realized that no matter how you do research on the project, that is still not enough guarantee that we will never get scammed. Scammers have become smarter and they really make sure to attract the people first until they take advantage of the investors money and left the market  taking the investors assets.

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November 09, 2023, 11:47:37 PM
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We are ...not the main actor in economic ...not have businesses .. just a society that depends on a company to continue to have income to survive...

That describe precisely what you are but nothing more than social or economic output. Doesn't it sound pathetic how vulnerable is your position?

It was a pretty hard slap, but I took it well.


In order for us to get out of such a difficult condition, it is important for us to be able to realize the shape of a situation, challenge and our current position. So that we can develop a strategy that is mature enough to be able to deal with it. As for some problems and challenges that are beyond our previous expectations, it is part of the difficulties we will face.


And if we cannot realize well about our current condition and position, then never expect that there will be progress in us. because we will assume that this will be fine.

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... it's impossible for us to get out of this situation well. ... today's quote; "if you fall, then keep trying until no one else can bring you down"...

Making a system that is easy to get out, why would anyone make the system, it is self-defeating, obviously system is purpose-made to lock you up, to stripe you off your freedom.


To be able to cross a river, if you can't swim to cross the river then try to build a boat or bridge to cross the river. There is always a way out for those who want and keep trying, so keep trying all the good ways that can get us out of this situation and don't let this difficulty be the one reason that can stop our efforts.


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Whatever the time we are going to face, we cannot stop it because the situation is like that. Instead of avoiding it, it is better to face it, unless we are not ready to face it. That is where the thing comes in: we must avoid it for the time being. then to face when we know we are ready.

That's why it should always move forward, not backward; that's how it's always been, right? The lift we seek is always forward or up, not down. As long as we always hold on to the desire that we want to achieve in life.

Time continues to pass so quickly. So we don't have time to prepare everything and then only regret it because we have wasted time that we can't turn back. But is regret alone enough to fix everything, I don't think regret alone is enough because it won't be able to solve everything. To get out in this condition, we are required to be better and if we have to repeat everything from the beginning then just do all this from the beginning.

And in this case we don't need to question whether we are ready or not ready. Because ready or not ready, we have to face it and we will face it. Don't be like the story of the frog and hot water, which continues to adjust its body temperature to the water temperature which continues to increase, the frog just stays still and adjusts its body temperature without taking any other action, namely jumping, until finally, the water has almost reached boiling point and the frog can no longer do it. adjusts its body temperature to the water temperature and when the frog decides to jump, it is too late because it has lost most of its energy to adjust its body temperature to the water temperature. And in short, the frog died in the boiling water.

In a sense, we have realized that the situation we are in is already very difficult. However, if we just stand by and wait for our readiness, then when will we be able to get out of this difficult situation, are we just going to wait until this situation gets harder and we are no longer able to deal with it.

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November 10, 2023, 12:10:48 AM
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That season has given us the wild ride, both positive and negative and that has given the best and worst on this market and also from the world. The best is like when the exposé of those real scammers in the community that has taken sums of money from the innocent users and swindled everyone, like was successfully made us a fool that they're the angels of the market. But lo and behold, they're the real devils that have planned it all along. And going with the real world incidents, it's like an actual reset for the majority but what I don't like from this scene is that the rich became richer.   Undecided
That was really a terrible one. A lot of of new projects were hyped that time that made us really excited to invest on the high potential ones but only to find out that those development teams suddenly shut down those projects and disappear in the market. Lucky are those who were never tempted to risk their money but a lot of those who have lost their money in an instant.

This incident had made me realized that no matter how you do research on the project, that is still not enough guarantee that we will never get scammed. Scammers have become smarter and they really make sure to attract the people first until they take advantage of the investors money and left the market  taking the investors assets.
it was also mainly because in the pandemic the market was getting all bearish, even the supposed to be giant of altcoin like celcius and so on are getting into bankruptcy, can't expect the lesser coin to perform better and not having that slight interest in rugpulling the masses.
that was really horrible experiences for those that are just delving into investment in cryptocurrencies and already facing such horrible condition, but it could be a good experience to learn that even the altcoin with hundred millions market capitalization are not really immune towards bearish and could also just gone like some shitcoins out there. should also teach to many people how essential it is to diversify portfolio to mitigate risk of losing all the investment altogether.

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November 10, 2023, 03:03:36 AM
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The pandemic was really beyond our control, and behind the scenes, it seems like COVID has been manipulated by those who've made us follow their strange policies like wearing masks, lockdowns, and getting vaccinated. We're being manipulated. Clearly, it's a huge business for them to gain instant wealth, while we'll never really know what's truly going on behind the scenes. This successful massive scam has left many people feeling helpless due to fear.

The rich get richer through shady means, and the poor get poorer. In the end, those in government positions in every country seem to get away with questionable actions, all within the legal boundaries of the rules they themselves create.
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-snip-
The rich get richer through shady means, and the poor get poorer. In the end, those in government positions in every country seem to get away with questionable actions, all within the legal boundaries of the rules they themselves create.
It is a state business, a multi-billion business that must sacrifice many people, while those at the top who have the power enjoy every benefit.
Pandemics like COVID-19 are now even commonplace and will no longer be affected even if there is a new variant or something like that.
People are starting to not care about what the media reports.
We can already judge what we should do.

Now the status of Vaccination is the main tool for entering an agency or as a legal requirement for everything.
Now the fear because of the Covid pandemic is over, there is no more manipulation and we are used to it.

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But what can we do better than blame one side? I know the difficulties in many areas that have caused disruption to the seamless pattern that was previously practiced in society. Disease, war, poverty, pollution,... Yep, these things are not just happening, but they are happening with greater intensity. Maybe this is the main reason why I realize that this life is inherently nuanced but not good and needs a way to escape from that, and fortunately I have found a way to escape from those constraints.
Sometimes being unsatisfied in life is just a challenge for us all to improve together. Anything bad now helps us, facing it or avoiding it is a choice. Even the problems that have appeared in this market are considered very negative, but perhaps, looking with more open eyes, a bright future is still waiting for us.









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November 10, 2023, 08:01:24 AM
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Anyway the main point is, do we successfully get out of this nearly unharmed? There isn't a metric to gauge any of this happening.

We are just people who enjoy development and economic progress. We are not the main actor in economic sustainability, both nationally and globally. We do not have businesses that play an active role in the economy and trade which can affect the economy as a whole. We are just a society that depends on a company to continue to have income to survive, so the steps and decisions taken by economic and trade leaders greatly affect us and will have an impact on our economic and financial stability. Because we are not the people who can regulate an economic system, but we are only people who are victims of an economic system.

And it's impossible for us to get out of this situation well. In making a decision, of course there are risks and challenges that we have to face. It could be that the risks and challenges will be greater than we previously thought. But even so, we must not be discouraged and continue to do our best to get out of this situation.

And today's quote; "if you fall, then keep trying until no one else can bring you down"

Whatever the time we are going to face, we cannot stop it because the situation is like that. Instead of avoiding it, it is better to face it, unless we are not ready to face it. That is where the thing comes in: we must avoid it for the time being. then to face when we know we are ready.

That's why it should always move forward, not backward; that's how it's always been, right? The lift we seek is always forward or up, not down. As long as we always hold on to the desire that we want to achieve in life.

Problem with other people is they always look back on the past that's not actually important. They always find way to stress up theirselves that's why they ended up overthinking to much on situation that is not actually avoidable to happen. So for those incident happen in the world we need to learn from it and come forward so that we will not bothered for facing the new chapter in life. If we are badly hit financially on those situation then its time for us to bounce back then learn from it to became more financially stable so that if incident like that or more worst will happen then it cannot affect us financially also with our investments.

Moving forward is always the best decision we could do although we can learn something from the past if we look back but if those things can heavily stress us then maybe stop looking it and find more ways to get more income or ways how you can earn more to became stable in life.

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November 10, 2023, 12:38:36 PM
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Rug pull is a specific investment term, and it means that there's a team/company suddenly withdrawing support/selling their assets, so it's centred on the idea of someone who's doing it, in a specific case. There have been some exit scams over the years, and there have been projects that genuinely failed, but what is the op referring to, specifically?
Who pulled the rug, and how did that impact the market? Bitcoin went to ATH during the pandemic, so how is that consistent with the idea of being rugpulled during the pandemic? And why is the op talking about how to get out of it unharmed? If it's the bearish crypto market, that will gradually fix itself, but there's no malicious intent involved anyway.

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The pandemic was really beyond our control, and behind the scenes, it seems like COVID has been manipulated by those who've made us follow their strange policies like wearing masks, lockdowns, and getting vaccinated. We're being manipulated. Clearly, it's a huge business for them to gain instant wealth, while we'll never really know what's truly going on behind the scenes. This successful massive scam has left many people feeling helpless due to fear.

Until now, there are still many people who are pros and cons about whether Covid is really a dangerous virus or just a business for selling vaccine drugs and other medical devices. So the manipulation is very clear, starting from the global world and in every country that takes advantage. I believe Corona exists but I don't believe it will be deadly and dangerous, I doubt the data on Covid patients. My late neighbor had his data falsified. Even though he died due to diabetes, etc., he had to sign a letter as a Covid patient so that his body could be taken by his family. If you don't come to the letter you can't be visited, let alone given a proper burial.

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The rich get richer through shady means, and the poor get poorer. In the end, those in government positions in every country seem to get away with questionable actions, all within the legal boundaries of the rules they themselves create.

This is true, the rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer during the pandemic, many government officials are taking advantage of this pandemic. If the question is whether they got worse during the pandemic, I think yes, many people got worse except for those who held bitcoin as an investment.

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For the corporate job holders or private sector and permanent government employees who never had to worry about their “missing salaries or bonuses” are the one who left unaffected. The only peeps who got affected were the business personnel, proprietors with small to mid scale business that were not related to the healthcare.

If you check above filter then it applies to major population who was affected with pandemic financially. We were literally sitting at home doing nothing. Most of the students who were at the end of their degrees just got free ticket to their degree certificate but they had loss of perfect knowledge and understanding of their degrees.

I think yes we came out but we did not came out “unharmed”. Somewhere somehow someone is affected for sure. 
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November 10, 2023, 04:45:51 PM
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Feels like that sometimes I can understand that, but I wouldn't say rug pulled to be fair. I would say that the inflation situation and money printing all feels like it was a period that wasn't really all that great, but the reality is that we are not going to end up with something that shouldn't be all that weird. I get that it is not all that shocking, but at the same time we are going to end up with a situation that has to be a bit different.

I get that it is not going to end up with all that weird feelings, but it is not technically a rug pull, it was all legal and not theft. The rug pull idea is that the creator would take your money and leave, this wasn't like that but it wasn't a fair situation neither, so I could understand the logic a bit. I believe that we need to make sure that we are doing better and we could move on with this situation and be better. It wasn't a rug pull but it wasn't fair neither, we need to work harder to equalize the score.

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November 10, 2023, 05:05:01 PM
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The pandemic was really beyond our control, and behind the scenes, it seems like COVID has been manipulated by those who've made us follow their strange policies like wearing masks, lockdowns, and getting vaccinated. We're being manipulated. Clearly, it's a huge business for them to gain instant wealth, while we'll never really know what's truly going on behind the scenes. This successful massive scam has left many people feeling helpless due to fear.

The rich get richer through shady means, and the poor get poorer. In the end, those in government positions in every country seem to get away with questionable actions, all within the legal boundaries of the rules they themselves create.

Seeing how now the government no longer enforces things as strictly as when the Covid 19 pandemic was at its peak, it really made me realize that we have all been pranked by those who want to make money and make quick profits. I still remember clearly in my mind how my little family and I were in decline at that time, my partner was fired from the company where he worked, I had to move to my in-laws' house, my children also couldn't go to kindergarten, there were many bad experiences and also bitter memories which we all definitely feel.

Fortunately, now we are all back to normal and doing our activities well, although the issue of inflation and war still affects the prices of basic commodities, but I'm sure we can get through that.



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November 10, 2023, 11:00:09 PM
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...wild ride, ... The best is like when the exposé of those real scammers
Isn't it scammer is always the wolf dressed in well-dress white collar that look smart attire. But man, gullible people keep falling for them, scammer keep doubling down on fooling them, the cycle never end.
You bet it. That's how they look and legally robbing people's money. They seem to be smart and good looking and I am one of those people that have been gullible and thought that they're brilliant, intelligent and seems to be perfect. But thank goodness, that whenever if it seems too good to be true, they mostly not true.

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Of course rich always get richer. It is not a fairy tales where you can meet a genie and all of a sudden you are granted with superhuman ability. It is a zero sum when the rich get poorer, nobody would have the motivation to improve with everything going zero sum.
I guess those people that have been once rich and then became poor, they've got still a poor mindset. Unlike the actual rich, they've got all focus on their riches and multiplying it and they just did it during the pandemic and it's going to continue while we're seems everything is back to normal now.

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November 11, 2023, 07:48:58 AM
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which is all but a simulation to the real world rugpulling in 2008 esque that still leave many guys totally confused and living in denial and got caged like a fangless lion and unable to get out.

Anyway the main point is, do we successfully get out of this nearly unharmed?
That's the thing though, there is always a lot of warnings and clear indications of upcoming hardship or even catastrophe like 2008 but we always have a lot of people who live in denial and don't want to see those warnings so they end up paying a dire price.

Can we get out of such situation unharmed? Definitely not. Every single person is affected by the economy whether it is during good times or bad. The only thing we can do is to reduce the "damage" we are going to experience.
For example over the past couple of years certain investments have been very risky, specially in tech sector. So if you were a stock market trader you would stay away from those.

With recession and inflation we have certain other types of companies showing better potential which could be very profitable. Specially with the Great Shuffle where a company shutting down in one place means open market for similar companies in another country to fill that gap.
For example over the past year that I've been talking about economic crisis, all my topics could act as signals for the market. We saw companies that crashed in a lot of sectors (eg. detergent, energy and fertilizer/food industries) while soared in another country in the same sector. Shorting their stock in the crashing market while buying it in the soaring market that was filling that gap was super profitable.

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November 11, 2023, 08:03:01 AM
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But what can we do better than blame one side? I know the difficulties in many areas that have caused disruption to the seamless pattern that was previously practiced in society. Disease, war, poverty, pollution,... Yep, these things are not just happening, but they are happening with greater intensity. Maybe this is the main reason why I realize that this life is inherently nuanced but not good and needs a way to escape from that, and fortunately I have found a way to escape from those constraints.
Sometimes being unsatisfied in life is just a challenge for us all to improve together.
We can do better. It only takes courage and other positive traits. In fact, many of us already did it. We survived the pandemic and we discovered our other side which we can say much better than the other. Life can be inherited and many can dislike it but it is still possible to change it.

So, we should stop blaming our ancestors for giving us a bad life and that we don't wanted. Instead, just use those effort or time to start changing your self. I'm sure that they can be proud of you and you are also going to be proud of your self. IDK or I'm not sure if being unsatisfied is truly a challenge? Because I also think that it is only a product of being uncontended on what you already have. But again, we can use that as motivation to improve.

Anything bad now helps us, facing it or avoiding it is a choice. Even the problems that have appeared in this market are considered very negative, but perhaps, looking with more open eyes, a bright future is still waiting for us.
Not all bad helps, but it can also depend on the person. Some don't want it or wants to avoid it but some faces it because they think it can be able to craft them as a better person.

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Lots of the supposed conspiracy theories during that time actually came true, that’s all I’ll say on the matter though. I mean we were led to believe COVID was a deadly virus that would wipe out large % of the world. We were then told the ‘vaccine’ would stop you getting the virus, then it was 90% effective, then 75%, then 50% & so on. An actual vaccine stops you contracting a disease, it gives you immunity. Lots of the richest people in the world profited on what happened. People like Bill Gates were buying big pharma shares before the virus happened. It all stinks but we’re the little people & we’ll never be told what is really going on. Let’s remember they gave us $1,400 stimulus cheques but then left us with insane inflation after printing trillions, doesn’t seem like a good trade for us.

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The pandemic was really beyond our control, and behind the scenes, it seems like COVID has been manipulated by those who've made us follow their strange policies like wearing masks, lockdowns, and getting vaccinated. We're being manipulated. Clearly, it's a huge business for them to gain instant wealth, while we'll never really know what's truly going on behind the scenes. This successful massive scam has left many people feeling helpless due to fear.

The rich get richer through shady means, and the poor get poorer. In the end, those in government positions in every country seem to get away with questionable actions, all within the legal boundaries of the rules they themselves create.
The effect of the pandemic is elongated and that is what we are still passing through now that the price of food and other things are increasing. If the pandemic had never surfaced, we would have been living a regular lifestyle by now and keep spending and enjoying life effortlessly. The pandemic had made many of us to realize our mistakes and try and develop something that would work for us and give us money even online. Cryptocurrency price really skyrocket during the pandemic and that alone gave many investors huge profits to take home.









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November 11, 2023, 07:33:46 PM
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The effect of the pandemic is elongated and that is what we are still passing through now that the price of food and other things are increasing. If the pandemic had never surfaced, we would have been living a regular lifestyle by now and keep spending and enjoying life effortlessly. The pandemic had made many of us to realize our mistakes and try and develop something that would work for us and give us money even online. Cryptocurrency price really skyrocket during the pandemic and that alone gave many investors huge profits to take home.

If we investigate in more depth, the pandemic did not appear by itself without cause and effect due to human actions or parties being lazy in protecting the surrounding environment. Because any disease will definitely be difficult to come if the environment around us is clean and not dirty, as well as the economic environment which in general has experienced a lot of price increases in the food sector and other necessary goods.

The pandemic is an obstacle to making any progress in life because with it, almost everyone cannot carry out activities and access freely in their respective environments, making development slow and even delayed. Meanwhile, investors who often use the crypto space to continue to develop their economy, I think they will not be so affected by this because they are still comfortable enough to continue carrying out their activities as usual.

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The pandemic was really beyond our control, and behind the scenes, it seems like COVID has been manipulated by those who've made us follow their strange policies like wearing masks, lockdowns, and getting vaccinated. We're being manipulated. Clearly, it's a huge business for them to gain instant wealth, while we'll never really know what's truly going on behind the scenes. This successful massive scam has left many people feeling helpless due to fear.

The rich get richer through shady means, and the poor get poorer. In the end, those in government positions in every country seem to get away with questionable actions, all within the legal boundaries of the rules they themselves create.

The world health organization warns us and does the government force us to wear masks to reduce the spread of covid Was that a bad thing for us? I don't understand why you think we are manipulated in this way. If wearing a mask and getting vaccinated were on the agenda to make a profit through business then what will you say about those unnecessary medicines doctors prescribe us when they can be controlled only by following good food consuming behaviors? Most of our illnesses can be cured through good food consumption practice and doctors know this and still prescribe medicines that can affect our bodies in the long run. We are being manipulated every day.

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