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November 12, 2023, 11:25:27 PM
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If anyone asks me for merits, I will certainly go to his profile and see if such deserves it or not. Giving a few to a person truly deserving of it is never a bad idea. Afterall, the merit system is not perfect.


Those who do this are probably newbies, I will do the same, I know the feeling of coming out with what you think are good posts but not getting the merits they deserve, if there are really good posts then I will give them, if I have merits but I will also warn them that about begging for merits and sending unsolicited messages could harm their account, he may not aware or missed about these rules and this will harm his account.
Maybe this newbie will become a good and reputable member of this forum if given the right guidance coming from higher-ranking members.


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November 13, 2023, 01:16:41 AM
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If anyone asks me for merits, I will certainly go to his profile and see if such deserves it or not. Giving a few to a person truly deserving of it is never a bad idea. Afterall, the merit system is not perfect.


Those who do this are probably newbies, I will do the same, I know the feeling of coming out with what you think are good posts but not getting the merits they deserve, if there are really good posts then I will give them, if I have merits but I will also warn them that about begging for merits and sending unsolicited messages could harm their account, he may not aware or missed about these rules and this will harm his account.
Maybe this newbie will become a good and reputable member of this forum if given the right guidance coming from higher-ranking members.

The hardest thing is sorting newbies from farmers.

This particular guy that posted may be a newbie and not a farmer 🧑‍🌾 so I tried making a thread that would help him and not hurt him.

well at least he has a chance to get better.

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November 13, 2023, 05:43:59 AM
Merited by philipma1957 (1)
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The person did not offer money. They just asked for some free merit.

So a how to report this?

Am I required to report it?



How much can the user offer someone like you @philipma1957 to get free merit 😁?


Well to me, since it is known that you need to get merits to rank up to the next level I feel it has become an obsession to many members in the Forum, asking for free merit doesn't show how serious you are on your work or how determine you're in the Forum, is like you need a free passage to the top, which is not how it works.
OP, to me I'd say you forget about reporting the user since it hasn't happened more than one (has it🤔?). If such get to happen I think you should reply to "caution" him or her and you might as well ignore the PM if you choose to and you can also keep an eye on that user (you know we have the good, the bad and the ugly on this Forum), it saves you the stress of thinking of what to do next. Ignore those messages.

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November 13, 2023, 08:41:41 AM
Merited by philipma1957 (1)
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If anyone asks me for merits, I will certainly go to his profile and see if such deserves it or not. Giving a few to a person truly deserving of it is never a bad idea. Afterall, the merit system is not perfect.


Those who do this are probably newbies, I will do the same, I know the feeling of coming out with what you think are good posts but not getting the merits they deserve, if there are really good posts then I will give them, if I have merits but I will also warn them that about begging for merits and sending unsolicited messages could harm their account, he may not aware or missed about these rules and this will harm his account.
Maybe this newbie will become a good and reputable member of this forum if given the right guidance coming from higher-ranking members.
The hardest thing is sorting newbies from farmers.
I believe a simple checking of the profile will fix this.

One thing that is sure is that one can't know alts for sure though I get to suspect them, but for farming, I think it's very easy to know since most of these farmers just write cabbages and for me to deem it fit to appreciate a newbie with merits, then the account must truly worth it. That's how I satisfy my conscience in this regard.

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November 13, 2023, 09:06:26 AM
Merited by philipma1957 (1)
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It is why I kind of wanted to be nice and not tear him up.  I do wish you could know if he is a single new person or a farmer with 5 accounts.
My take: a new person wouldn't ask for Merit. Why would he care? And why would he ask you?

Also catches my attention that the administrator did not mention all degree of merit begging is frown upon, but Instead let a certain margin for people to "beg reasonably" to get merits.
Compare it to Youtube: millions of videos say "please click like and subscribe". For Youtube, it's a business model. For the viewer, it's a waste of time. I wouldn't want to waste my time reading "Please Merit my post if you liked it" on every post.

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November 13, 2023, 09:58:41 AM
Merited by philipma1957 (1)
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Nobody is demanding anyone to report a thing here and I would say just ignore him!
If he is farming accounts he will just get a 7-day ban at maximum on that one while spamming the forum with other accounts, is just a whack-a-mole thing at this point.
The best thing that OP can do because of how light the consequence is for the offender or if OP is in a better mood and feeling a bit energetic and thoughtful, maybe help that merit beggar to learn how to earn merit in an honest and deserving way, so as cliche as it sounds since it's been said already in the thread, it's always up to OP.



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November 13, 2023, 11:55:09 AM
Merited by philipma1957 (1)
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If anyone asks me for merits, I will certainly go to his profile and see if such deserves it or not. Giving a few to a person truly deserving of it is never a bad idea. Afterall, the merit system is not perfect.


Those who do this are probably newbies, I will do the same, I know the feeling of coming out with what you think are good posts but not getting the merits they deserve, if there are really good posts then I will give them, if I have merits but I will also warn them that about begging for merits and sending unsolicited messages could harm their account, he may not aware or missed about these rules and this will harm his account.
Maybe this newbie will become a good and reputable member of this forum if given the right guidance coming from higher-ranking members.

The hardest thing is sorting newbies from farmers.

This particular guy that posted may be a newbie and not a farmer 🧑‍🌾 so I tried making a thread that would help him and not hurt him.

well at least he has a chance to get better.

At least you did not name him I'm sure he will be aware of this and if he is a newbie he will take this as a lesson and if he is a farmer and there's another report about him, we can tag him for abuse, if he is a farmer its likely that he has done this to other high-rank members of this forum and the other member may communicate this to you for verification or post it here.
It is good that you open this, so newbies or even farmers will be aware of what could happen to them if they beg for merits


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November 13, 2023, 12:27:35 PM
Merited by philipma1957 (1)
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My take: a new person wouldn't ask for Merit. Why would he care? And why would he ask you?

I agree with you on that, because how can a newbie know who @philipma1957 is to go straight and ask for merit? That's just an indication that it might be one of those merit or account farmers. If it's so then that account need to be monitored until proven otherwise.

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November 13, 2023, 12:33:59 PM
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My take: a new person wouldn't ask for Merit. Why would he care? And why would he ask you?

I agree with you on that, because how can a newbie know who @philipma1957 is to go straight and ask for merit? That's just an indication that it might be one of those merit or account farmers. If it's so then that account need to be monitored until proven otherwise.

Philipma post a lot on daily basis as regular posting habits. He is easy to notice if you are regularly browsing on mining board and wall observer thread. Probably this user is just trying his luck on asking merit to Philipma since he seems so approachable and friendly on most of his post.

We are not sure too if this user only ask to Philipma or to other user too with high merit count.

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November 13, 2023, 03:23:20 PM
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It is why I kind of wanted to be nice and not tear him up.  I do wish you could know if he is a single new person or a farmer with 5 accounts.
My take: a new person wouldn't ask for Merit. Why would he care? And why would he ask you?
It is definitely true that a new member should never ask for merit by pming anyone. Because a new member usually doesn't know how merit works. Who is the merit source and who has sufficient merit and from whom merit can be sought. But he is an old member but a pure shitposter

Also catches my attention that the administrator did not mention all degree of merit begging is frown upon, but Instead let a certain margin for people to "beg reasonably" to get merits.
Compare it to Youtube: millions of videos say "please click like and subscribe". For Youtube, it's a business model. For the viewer, it's a waste of time. I wouldn't want to waste my time reading "Please Merit my post if you liked it" on every post.
Ha ha your point is funny but logical. People who do that still live in fools paradise and are the ones spamming this forum. so better to report them

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November 13, 2023, 03:46:10 PM
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ive had pms from merit beggers. they just go right into my ignore list.
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November 13, 2023, 04:06:35 PM
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My take: a new person wouldn't ask for Merit. Why would he care? And why would he ask you?

I agree with you on that, because how can a newbie know who @philipma1957 is to go straight and ask for merit? That's just an indication that it might be one of those merit or account farmers. If it's so then that account need to be monitored until proven otherwise.

Philipma post a lot on daily basis as regular posting habits. He is easy to notice if you are regularly browsing on mining board and wall observer thread. Probably this user is just trying his luck on asking merit to Philipma since he seems so approachable and friendly on most of his post.

We are not sure too if this user only ask to Philipma or to other user too with high merit count.

I usually sound like a soft touch most of the time. But I am not really that soft. If anything I have seen so much here on bitcointalk I am tired of repeated cons.

This just happened to be the first person to ask for free merits in a pm.

Hell I have had a lot of shit asked of me in pm's. Just never had someone ask this.

locked thread and gave all posters 1 merit for each post they made.

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