[WARNING] Another Electrum fake app on AppStore!!!

[cygan]

btw the next ~0.7BTC are on the way to the scammer/s
https://mempool.space/tx/8d03c5214fc3cab5ff1c22d58a935a14f3ef7b4ab2f9eea092e6a912abd10b2f

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I ask as above because up to now Electrum does not support iOS but macOS (desktop). So, when iPhone users find Elcetrum app in mobile appstore can clearly know that the app is a scam because Electrum mobile is available on Android devices.

On the contrary, beginners do not know the wallet link and may search on Google for a Bitcoin wallet or on the App Store (there are no phishing apps compared to Google Play), and then the site will appear to them as the first result with positive reviews, so some may use it.

[Spoofed]

This just happened to me. I am the one who was scammed in tx 8d03c5214fc3cab5ff1c22d58a935a14f3ef7b4ab2f9eea092e6a912abd10b2f

I have the seed to the original wallet. The tx is still unconfirmed because I had a pending transaction coming in which was delayed for over 3 days going on 4 now. Went on AppStore to try and download electrum to initiate CPFP and after entering seed phrase in this app it doesn’t do anything I quickly realize what’s happened but it was too late they took that along with another amount that was already on the wallet tx 258f73f68402188ca9fcc328d1531966721b9167b345af53d5284f832f3feeb4 and right after they themselves initiated the CPFP transaction before I could do anything.

Can I make a small claims with Apple in court over this? Literally this is a problem they know about the app has reviews which are posted since Nov. 1 stating it’s fake and it’s been reported and it’s been 2 weeks with no action. On top of the fact that they have let many customers lose millions to these same known scams.

CAN I SUE APPLE FOR THIS? Even if just small claims.

[Spoofed]

btw the next ~0.7BTC are on the way to the scammer/s
https://mempool.space/tx/8d03c5214fc3cab5ff1c22d58a935a14f3ef7b4ab2f9eea092e6a912abd10b2f

This was unfortunately me 🤦‍♂️

[cygan]

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This was unfortunately me 🤦‍♂️

holy shit!!!
unfortunately, i can't answer whether you should take the giant Apple to court because of this. but maybe there are users here who are more familiar with this than i am

but losing over 0.7 BTC in one fell swoop really hurts and I wouldn't want to be in your shoes right now...
why didn't you go directly to downloads on the official Electrum website (even if there is no official app for ios) - what was your train of thought at that moment?

[blue Snow]

I think this could be a solution, but unfortunately, it requires an Apple ID to report. I'm not an Apple user, but I really want to contribute and report the app.

As I know, to have an Apple ID is not a must you have an Apple gadget. you can create an Apple ID on website: https://appleid.apple.com/account or when you use Windows PC, follow This link, but you must have iTunes already installed on your PC, and also have phone number to register.

This means that the seed phrase given when creating a new wallet is recorded with all of them (the perpetrators) so that users who cannot distinguish between genuine Electrum and fake ones will lose their stored Bitcoin assets.

many new users don't understand if Electrum can create 1st time (new) wallet offline. If they understand it, it can avoid to recorded online.

[AprilioMP]

I ask as above because up to now Electrum does not support iOS but macOS (desktop). So, when iPhone users find Elcetrum app in mobile appstore can clearly know that the app is a scam because Electrum mobile is available on Android devices.

On the contrary, beginners do not know the wallet link and may search on Google for a Bitcoin wallet or on the App Store (there are no phishing apps compared to Google Play), and then the site will appear to them as the first result with positive reviews, so some may use it.

Then, what will happen? Risk of Self -responsibility

This means that the seed phrase given when creating a new wallet is recorded with all of them (the perpetrators) so that users who cannot distinguish between genuine Electrum and fake ones will lose their stored Bitcoin assets.

many new users don't understand if Electrum can create 1st time (new) wallet offline. If they understand it, it can avoid to recorded online.

I do not want to assume that new users who don't understand if to make new swallows can be offline a lot of them. I want before going to investment and trade, beginners are required to learn how to use a wallet and how to choose a wallet to be able to avoid things that cause losses to the mistakes made by themselves.

Don't be surprised to see users like me too busy in the wallet by asking things that are understood by other users.

[cygan]

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and it looks like this is the scammer address: https://mempool.space/address/1LGou2YkuYLoFkkixLAd3HK6bVvUqX5BLz
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the stolen 0.89 BTC have now been sent from the 1LGou2... address to another following address: https://mempool.space/address/bc1q6xqsh33unk7e3l985awkt9jfs2trn46dkrztfs
this address contains further transactions that have taken place since november 9th and this address has received 2.7 BTC so far

[TheUltraElite]

this address contains further transactions that have taken place since november 9th and this address has received 2.7 BTC so far

I took the opportunity to borrow a friend's iPad and found this scammer app on the app store on Apple still existing and there is literally no way for a normal user who has not downloaded the app to report it to the store authorities.

However the app did not come on its own when searched for "Electrum" but specifically for "Electrum management" and hence there must some method by which the scammers are SEOing the terms in order to point the users to the second one.

[Z-tight]

the stolen 0.89 BTC have now been sent from the 1LGou2... address to another following address: https://mempool.space/address/bc1q6xqsh33unk7e3l985awkt9jfs2trn46dkrztfs
this address contains further transactions that have taken place since november 9th and this address has received 2.7 BTC so far

The total received BTC's has gone up from that, it is now above 5 BTC, but the scammer has sent out nearly everything from that address to different addresses and in different transactions. So many people are still falling for this scam and who knows how many people would lose their BTC's, before apple takes this scam app down.

CAN I SUE APPLE FOR THIS? Even if just small claims.

I'm not sure you will achieve much if you do this all by yourself, Apple is a giant company and i am sure you will run out of funds if you enter a lawsuit with them. So many people have and are losing money from this scam app, so if they can all collectively make their case on this matter, it may be more productive.

[blue Snow]

many new users don't understand if Electrum can create 1st time (new) wallet offline. If they understand it, it can avoid to recorded online.

I do not want to assume that new users who don't understand if to make new swallows can be offline a lot of them. I want before going to investment and trade, beginners are required to learn how to use a wallet and how to choose a wallet to be able to avoid things that cause losses to the mistakes made by themselves.

Don't be surprised to see users like me too busy in the wallet by asking things that are understood by other users.

Because I was here for a long time and know that the new user doesn't care about how to create a wallet offline, they just think of profit and selling their bitcoin at the right time. That in fact, the new user is going to be busy learning business (Alt), they never care how to save it offline. If they know it, whatever phishing site out there, they will carefull to do not trap it, because they already know how to secure the investment.

The new user always asking many time already questions like he was expecting something here.

[Volgastallion]

Really sad to see this keep happening, we only can pretend to share the knowledge from so no more guys fall into this, but is really difficult.

I try to push for the companies like Google and Apple were more careful with this things, but they cant do so much asides of register the most important brands who make wallets like electrum fo example, and forbid others with similar names, but you can just fall in legal problems.

The main problem here is they by-pass the troyan analisys because the software in that kind of terms is good, but is more like a social enginering hacking. And the companies of the stores cant do so much about it (sadly). Another thing they can do is to erase fast this app from the store.

[Z-tight]

Really sad to see this keep happening, we only can pretend to share the knowledge from so no more guys fall into this, but is really difficult.

There are so many people who use BTC, but they do not know much about what they are doing, they do not even know that Electrum doesn't have an ios version. Members' of this forum will easily know things like these, but for people who are not here, it is hard for them.
I just checked for the scam application in my ios device and i can confirm that it has been taken down. I know that nobody should ever download their wallet through Playstore or App store, but maybe Google and Apple have to do better, phishing applications are too much in Playstore and some are now finding their way into App store, just like 'Electrum wallet management' did.

[cygan]

yesterday, the Electrum devs published a very good summary of the most common malware attacks on your wallet.
check out this github link and read it carefully. i hope that this will now reach more users who may have been more careless with the whole thing so far!

Malware (and other avenues of losing money)

[seek3r]

yesterday, the Electrum devs published a very good summary of the most common malware attacks on your wallet.
check out this github link and read it carefully. i hope that this will now reach more users who may have been more careless with the whole thing so far!

Malware (and other avenues of losing money)

It always depends on the users themselves. If you want to make sure you are using the right software, you need to verify the wallet software. There are very simple tips that you should follow:

Always download Electrum from the official website and verify the software's digital signatures. This ensures that the software is authentic and hasn't been tampered with.
Keep your Electrum wallet updated to the latest version. Developers regularly update the software to patch vulnerabilities.

Besides that its always helpful to use strong passwords and activate 2FA. Hardware wallets would add another layer of security ofc.

And ofc dont get fooled by any emails or websites that pretend to be Electrum.

[Husna QA]

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Besides that its always helpful to use strong passwords and activate 2FA. Hardware wallets would add another layer of security ofc.

However, if you refer to the thread's topic, Electrum mobile, which is currently only available for Android smartphones, doesn't even support hardware wallets, as far as I know.
A small note: wallets with 2FA on Electrum have a fee to use this feature. Further information can be seen here: https://api.trustedcoin.com/#/faq.

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Please be careful. Some time ago, the fake Electrum application: 'Electrum Wallet Management' was removed from the AppStore. This time, I saw another fake Electrum application in the AppStore: 'Electrum Wallet Finance'.