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November 13, 2023, 03:39:29 PM
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Your parents are very rich and they have made a will while they are still alive Your parent is disinheriting you on the ground on one of the laws in our country about disinheritance that
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When a child or descendant leads a dishonorable or disgraceful life;
because of gambling but they have not proven that you are a chronic gambler and you think you are a responsible gambler.

Do you have a case here on the ground that it is not proven that you are a chronic gambler and have not lost a fortune in gambling, can you appeal this case in court to make the will invalid and get your part in the inheritance?

Here in our country, you cannot disinherit your heirs as long as the heir does not violate what's stated in the law about inheritance and they just used the quoted message as their ground.


What's your take on this and what do your country's laws say about this?

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November 13, 2023, 03:55:10 PM
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What's your take on this and what do your country's laws say about this?

I believe this is tricky since a parents will not accuse you of being a chronic gambler if they didn’t saw their child gambling regularly. A simple proof that you are involved in gambling can be used against the court to backup their claim of disinheriting you.

Probing that you are not chronic gambler while you are involved on gambling is very to do especially if you are just fighting for money that is not originally yours. The parents have the right to decide who will receive the money. But I doubt this regular scenario in real life since you will obviously temporarily stop gambling if your parents gives you an ultimatum about inheritance. I can wait long time if we are talking about big inheritance money here.

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November 13, 2023, 04:01:25 PM
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Now I will only reply based on my country.. in my country I think such law exist but a parent can disown his or her child due to their evil acts this may not be strictly to gambling but a kind of insubordination acts this could be a criminal offense but I not too sure it's applicable to gambling. But if a child is a gamble and has not been proven as addicted gambler such persons has all power or authority to claim their inheritance from their parents except has been known or haven a broken record where now sold their property for gambling at this point i won't support any inheritance should be given to him or her because giving to such person may leads to waste of resources.

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November 13, 2023, 04:06:26 PM
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If I'm not mistaken before there was a thread about the inheritance that would not be given to his son because of gambling, but I forgot the thread might have sunk far away.

I never had anything like this before because I didn't get any inheritance from my parents.
If it happens like this and you are not a chronic gambler maybe you can appeal to the court with a strong argument that if you are really not proven then you can still win this case.
Every country has different inheritance laws, so I don't know exactly about this because I have never come across any news where someone did not receive inheritance rights due to gambling.

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November 13, 2023, 04:09:39 PM
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What's your take on this and what do your country's laws say about this?

I believe this is tricky since a parents will not accuse you of being a chronic gambler if they didn’t saw their child gambling regularly. A simple proof that you are involved in gambling can be used against the court to backup their claim of disinheriting you.

Probing that you are not chronic gambler while you are involved on gambling is very to do especially if you are just fighting for money that is not originally yours. The parents have the right to decide who will receive the money. But I doubt this regular scenario in real life since you will obviously temporarily stop gambling if your parents gives you an ultimatum about inheritance. I can wait long time if we are talking about big inheritance money here.
For someone's parent to go as far as disinheriting their child from their wealth citing that the said child is a chronic gambler, I think they have tried their best to make sure the child in question leaves gambling but couldn't succeed. A lot of chronic gamblers are very good in using whatever that's in their possession to gamble and knowing fully well that their child will definitely gamble with which part of the wealth that's willed to him, they'll rather chose to will them to their responsible children who would not use the wealth for something that's not useful.

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November 13, 2023, 04:10:24 PM
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This is a legal matter that can be settled if the heir can prove his innocence by undergoing a psychiatric examination he can ask for a lawyer to the protector of the will which is a lawyer also for him to provide a psychiatrist on both parties' choice.
Some countries have guiding principles when it comes to inheritance so the heir has a case if he can prove that he is not a chronic gambler, but it's better for the heir to just have a heart-to-heart talk to his parents to prove that he is not what they think he is and to undergo an evaluation to prove his point.
It's hard for a child if he gets disinherited based on unfounded opinions.

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November 13, 2023, 04:11:00 PM
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the parents have the right to what they wanna do with their money. the will is already the last words of your parents. not sure if you can change it unless they give the conditions you get the inheritance when you are not chronic anymore.  if it means life and death to you, you will really fight for it against your siblings. this is the kind of story been told a million times that leads to a tragic end. it's not gonna be good for this thread to end that way.  

if you are independent enough and you can have your own and earn your own wealth, the better.you'd be glad to say thanks pap and mom you didn't raise a fool

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November 13, 2023, 04:12:15 PM
Last edit: November 13, 2023, 04:30:31 PM by uneng
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I think it's possible an individual gives all his inheritance to who he wants, despite them being his sons, family or not. I've already seen cases where the person left all his patrimony to a dog or cat. However, it doesn't happen automatically. It happens only if the individual registers this petition towards the law of the country.

That is really unusual, though, because it's natural that a father or mother wishes to leave everything they have for their families, in order to proportionate comfort and welfare for their future generations.

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November 13, 2023, 04:17:10 PM
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If a child has proven to be unstable or generally a danger to others, parents may chose to give their property to someone else when they pass.

However, under many jurisdictions, this is considered illegal. Children should be included in a will and are entitled with first priority to the possessions of their legal parents.
But in cases where a child is disgraced, has severed ties with his/her parents and/or are unstable, they often will not have the capacity or the funds to pursue such a case.
It's usually the less fortunate that get the short end of the stick in these situations sadly.

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November 13, 2023, 04:21:08 PM
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If a child can prove he doesn't gamble too often and can still control himself well during gambling, he can likely still get his share of the inheritance. But everyone must be able to think clearly that nothing can guarantee that someone can maintain control over themselves in gambling because we probably already know that many people end up losing control of themselves in gambling. They are so distracted by the money they have in their hands that they will think they can still gamble responsibly and they will probably start betting more than usual.

Parents must be able to look for evidence that their children do not gamble too often and do not overdo it. It would be even better if the parents could prove that their child does not gamble so that his inheritance will fall into hands that can control and use his inheritance well. Parents should be careful of their child, who can pretend to show that he is a responsible gambler but in the end, he will become a gambler who is addicted to gambling.

I don't understand such laws. When there is an inheritance, the inheritance will be distributed directly to the children or as written in the inheritance letter. But some parents write certain messages like that.

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November 13, 2023, 04:24:04 PM
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Your parents are very rich and they have made a will while they are still alive Your parent is disinheriting you on the ground on one of the laws in our country about disinheritance that
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When a child or descendant leads a dishonorable or disgraceful life;
because of gambling but they have not proven that you are a chronic gambler and you think you are a responsible gambler.

Do you have a case here on the ground that it is not proven that you are a chronic gambler and have not lost a fortune in gambling, can you appeal this case in court to make the will invalid and get your part in the inheritance?

Here in our country, you cannot disinherit your heirs as long as the heir does not violate what's stated in the law about inheritance and they just used the quoted message as their ground.


What's your take on this and what do your country's laws say about this?


My country like most countries that are based on the rule of order and democracy has normal laws,they don't care much if you are a chronic gambler,if you deserve to inherit some fortune it is yours to inherit and parents have no power over it unless they do it since you are born and they do it with a notary that you will only have access to this fortune after you have become 21,23 or 25 of age depending on the parents view of  what age is the most suitable for this.Of course once you reach this age it is yours to enjoy as fortune and the parents only have power to consult and advice you to not do stupid things but if you want to spend it on gambling then so be it,do whatever you like to do,it is yours to enjoy.

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November 13, 2023, 04:26:20 PM
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To be honest, i do not know what the law in my country says about will and inheritance since I've never had the opportunity of reading or going through such a document, but then, the only thing i will have to say here, and concerning this is that, if one's parent doesn't like or want him to gamble, then it's better to respect your parents and don't gamble, there is nothing in gambling that is worth fighting ones family for, dragging your family to court over gambling is not only a disgrace on you, but a disgrace on the entire family, most especially, if the family is a very influential one that is a role model to many other families in the society.

There is also nothing in gambling that is worth losing an opportunity to own a fortune over, if your parent doesnt want you to gamble, then quit, when you become man or woman on your own, you can gamble all you want without having to answer queries from anyone.

This is what i personally think concerning this matter, i will never advice one to disrespect his or her family, or neither fight his or her family by dragging them to court over an issue related to gambling, it is not just worth it for me.

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November 13, 2023, 04:37:16 PM
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If that person is unable to provide concrete evidence to prove that I am a gambling addict, then my presumption towards that person is that I suspect that this person is trying to seize my inheritance rights by accusing me of being a gambling addict. And no matter what, I will try my best to get what is rightfully mine, even if it has to go to court.

And this is a lesson for us, that when we make a will, we must entrust it to someone who is truly responsible and trustworthy.


And regardless of the issue, whether or not we are promised an inheritance, we must have something called gambling responsibly. Because all of this concerns our own good.
And gambling can be a fun thing to enjoy and gambling can also be a very detrimental thing, when what we are after in gambling is profit. This all And gambling can be fun and gambling can also be very detrimental.

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November 13, 2023, 04:42:43 PM
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I cannot say whether this is legal or not because I am not alwayer and this is not the law used in my country. In my opinion, because of how subjective this law you quoted is, it would take an actual trial for a jury to decide whether a person is a chronic gambler or not. It would require the son to provide data of his wager and gambling activity and getting it compared to his income and the inheritance he is trying to claim.
In the end, such decision would depend on the personal and religious opinions of those who are member of the jury.
Here in my country there are not laws which are as specific as those in your country. Someone can pass away here and do not let a formal document behind, making things problematic in the case any of the survivors wants to claim some goods or properties.

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November 13, 2023, 04:43:03 PM
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What's your take on this and what do your country's laws say about this?
Your parents have the rights to put whoever they want in their inheritance and for whatever reasons. You should not concern yourself with trying to forcefully claim an inheritance for yourself, it is not your property, and never was. I think it is an entitlement mentality to want to take your parent's will to court just so you can challenge their wishes and claim some inheritance for yourself. If your parents see it as good to leave some inheritance for you, that is okay, if they do not, then you should be able to accept the reality of things and struggle to get your own.

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November 13, 2023, 04:47:13 PM
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Now I will only reply based on my country.. in my country I think such law exist but a parent can disown his or her child due to their evil acts this may not be strictly to gambling but a kind of insubordination acts this could be a criminal offense but I not too sure it's applicable to gambling. But if a child is a gamble and has not been proven as addicted gambler such persons has all power or authority to claim their inheritance from their parents except has been known or haven a broken record where now sold their property for gambling at this point i won't support any inheritance should be given to him or her because giving to such person may leads to waste of resources.

If the gambling person get addicted to the gambling,if they loss the money to the bad luck in the gambling.So the gambler will try to get their parents property by apply on the case on the court.Because the gambling addicted person will loss the entire money in the gambling because of allowing their emotion get into the gambling betting.Some of the people will oppose to give the property to the gambling addicted person and justice their view to the court of law.So finally the law will not allow the gambler to sell the assets because of their gambling addiction and may allow the gambler to do the use of the property to the certain period of time.

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November 13, 2023, 05:02:15 PM
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Your parents are very rich and they have made a will while they are still alive Your parent is disinheriting you on the ground on one of the laws in our country about disinheritance that
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When a child or descendant leads a dishonorable or disgraceful life;
because of gambling but they have not proven that you are a chronic gambler and you think you are a responsible gambler.

Do you have a case here on the ground that it is not proven that you are a chronic gambler and have not lost a fortune in gambling, can you appeal this case in court to make the will invalid and get your part in the inheritance?
I'll bethink myself against taking my parents to court in this matter for it's a wasteful exploit contemplating on charging them to court on whatever grounds you might be thinking you are going to win. why do you want to have a case with your parents when you can resolve your misunderstanding in a very calm and honorable way.

If your parents are so rich as you claim and with an inheritance that can change your financial and social status when share why not jettison gambling and align with them in the behavior they expects of you. You can engage in other activities that is completely not gambling but still deriving fun and entertainment from it if you're into gambling as a result of the entertainment.

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November 13, 2023, 05:09:29 PM
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Is this how you live OP? You are very very rich? Anyway, kidding aside. I know that there are very rich people who have let their children have a prenuptial agreement that would prevent the transfer of wealth or something. I do hope that it is made to good use or something. If that has some shade with who you are then it's definitely because you are that irresponsible one. Once it is decided, you will have a hard time fighting and getting your part. That's set IMO.

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I think they can disinherit you of such privilege if they really perceive you as someone who is not deserving of their wealth only as long as they are alive. Since we would all get to that ‘point’, it will still be passed to your authority when that ‘day’ comes. If I were the boy in that situation, I would accept their judgement and prove them wrong. I could also not be dependent of their wealth and generate money for myself to show that I could be responsible of the money if ever they would be inheriting it someday. We cannot bring our money to our grave therefore once our loved ones pass away, it’ll be ours, however let us not give them an impression that it’ll be just in vain.

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November 13, 2023, 05:27:14 PM
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To the best of my knowledge, a will is the last wish of a man for his family on how his assets, investments or properties could be shared amongst his heirs. Every parent has in mind whom they deemed fit to continue their legacies so in.that course they would definitely will the huge part of their assets to that particular child they think can be able to continue the family legacies and.if a child is a gambler and the parents are fully aware of it, and they decide to  deprive that child of their own share of the assets,  if it is in accordance with the laws of the land, then that child is definitely not going to be able to do anything about it but if the reverse is the case, maybe they could try their strengths at the court of law to prove beyond reasonable doubt if the child is an addicted gambler. Not until proven otherwise with reasonable evidence then that child could be able to claim his Or her own possessions.

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