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November 13, 2023, 11:56:28 PM
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Yes, it's legal. Like you've said, the parents are rich, so that's their property and not for the children. They have the right to protect their property, even disinheriting their own children. Well,  at first, the children don't have the right to their wealth; it's up to the parents if they want to inherit their wealth from their children, so if they think that the child is not capable of the property, then they can revoke its inheritance.

But as you said, if the child is proven to be a gambler, any kind of gambler, then it is the right decision of the parents to not hand over the property. They can if the child shows improvement and avoids gambling, but if not, then it is better to not inherit the wealth from that child. I know no one will want to witness the wealth they build slowly fading, right?

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November 14, 2023, 12:11:09 AM
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IMHO. It's just best to negotiate with your parents and convince and prove to them that they are wrong with their decision. There are basis as to why they're doing that to you when they're disinheriting you. I know that each side has a story and if that's what they have seen on you for being irresponsible person because they think that you are a gambler as simple that, no matter chronic or not, as long as they base it you being a gambler, you cannot do anything with that.

So, in result, you have to change for the better and get to talk to them and explain that you're also eligible for the inheritance but because of the path that you've gone through, you're no longer chosen on them. Honestly, it's their hardwork that had made them with all of those inheritance and the respect to their decision is even going to give you a chance by showing them that you respect them, the decision that you're not going to be part of the inheritance and so you're just going to move on and change for the better.

I think if you're going to show them the better version of you, you might even considered by them and when they see that you're changing for the betterment of yourself, that can even change their minds and soon who knows if they're going to give you a chance and will give a portion for that inheritance. If you choose to go battle it with legality, you have no chance because it's their own will, money and everything that shall be pass on and they all have the say to give that even to a stranger that they like.

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November 14, 2023, 01:17:58 AM
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I didn't vote because I think this is not a simple case of yes or no. We always observe how the legal processes in many, probably all, countries are not simple. They're complicated. The law is not rigid. It is open for various interpretations. Even the contents of the paragraphs and sections of the law are overlapping to the point that there are always contentions as to the legality of any side's argument. Even courts' previous decisions will have to be taken into account as well.

I'm not a lawyer but I think you can always challenge this decision in court especially because they have not yet even proven that you're a chronic gambler.
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November 14, 2023, 01:47:26 AM
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That's their money anyway and whatever they think you deserve to get, that's their own decision to disinherit you and if this is a true story, I think that someone's lying about being a gambler here, I mean you're calling the worst one as chronic gambler when I am sure it's definitely an addiction. People are also pretty bad at doing self assessment especially on their worst behaviors so I don't think that the person that OP's mentioning is a responsible gambler. Either you convince them that you're not an addict or as you like to call a chronic gambler or you can admit it to them and tell them that you're going to change for the better and prove to them that you're committed to changing your life. If you really wanted to be part of that will, you're going to be doing what it takes to be there right?
I'm not a lawyer but I think you can always challenge this decision in court especially because they have not yet even proven that you're a chronic gambler.
Yes you can contest the ruling on the will but that will only make things worse for you because I am sure that the other people on the will wouldn't want you getting a piece of theirs when they finally got rid of you, either you accept the decision or be truthful that you're not just a chronic gambler but a gambling addict.



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November 14, 2023, 03:09:26 AM
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I'm not a lawyer but I think you can always challenge this decision in court especially because they have not yet even proven that you're a chronic gambler.
Yes you can contest the ruling on the will but that will only make things worse for you because I am sure that the other people on the will wouldn't want you getting a piece of theirs when they finally got rid of you, either you accept the decision or be truthful that you're not just a chronic gambler but a gambling addict.

If I am the child to be disinherited because of gambling, even if I am not really an addicted gambling, I think I would stop gambling for the sake of the inheritance condition unless I am also very rich myself that I don't care anymore even if my parents won't give me any inheritance.

But if I am the brother of the child who won't receive any inheritance, I think I would convince my parents to let my brother or sister change or undergo professional treatment and resolve his problems and give him his inheritance. I think I won't be happy seeing my brother or sister receive nothing out of the vast wealth of my parents.

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November 14, 2023, 03:24:18 AM
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If I am the child to be disinherited because of gambling, even if I am not really an addicted gambling, I think I would stop gambling for the sake of the inheritance condition unless I am also very rich myself that I don't care anymore even if my parents won't give me any inheritance.

But if I am the brother of the child who won't receive any inheritance, I think I would convince my parents to let my brother or sister change or undergo professional treatment and resolve his problems and give him his inheritance. I think I won't be happy seeing my brother or sister receive nothing out of the vast wealth of my parents.

Off topic: Hey, do you still think Bitcoin won't reach $100,000 in 2024 or 2025? Lol.  Grin
Well, if you can find a way to convince your parents that you've stopped gambling then good for you and there's a possibility of getting back into the will but I assume that this kind of rich family are the kind that wouldn't tolerate gambling or living in a shameful way that will taint the family name so it's unlikely you can get back in it plus you're siblings if you have any in this hypothetical family, I don't think that they're going to be liking the idea of you getting back in too because they want to be in the favor of your parents so they won't risk being taken out of the will. With what you're planning to do, you're an awesome sibling to be had because what you've said about convincing your parents to bring back that person to the will would make you risk your own name being excluded, pretty noble in my opinion.
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November 14, 2023, 03:59:23 AM
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There are legal regulations in country that regulate inheritance rights which can be revoked if the owner of the inheritance rights or child has made big mistake, but this all also depends on how the parents respond to their child mistakes.
I don't think it appropriate for parents to revoke their children inheritance rights because they carry out gambling activities and everything can be resolved until there is the best solution, such as providing special requirements that have been officially given to legal representatives.
Honestly, I have never heard of case like this where parents disinherit their child just because he is gambler.

And things like this will cause conflict between family members and result in disputes or hatred in the future.
As parents, you must be able to provide fair treatment to each child, even though the distribution of inheritance rights is full right that parents have, they still have to be able to provide the best for their children.

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November 14, 2023, 04:11:20 AM
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There are legal regulations in country that regulate inheritance rights which can be revoked if the owner of the inheritance rights or child has made big mistake, but this all also depends on how the parents respond to their child mistakes.
I don't think it appropriate for parents to revoke their children inheritance rights because they carry out gambling activities and everything can be resolved until there is the best solution, such as providing special requirements that have been officially given to legal representatives.
Honestly, I have never heard of case like this where parents disinherit their child just because he is gambler.

And things like this will cause conflict between family members and result in disputes or hatred in the future.
As parents, you must be able to provide fair treatment to each child, even though the distribution of inheritance rights is full right that parents have, they still have to be able to provide the best for their children.
Since I have no background when it comes to legal advices, its better to consult in any legal professionals, but I think parents has the right to not give a child an inheritance right as long as they prove that their child is a chronic gambler, I dont think parents doesn't have basis why they say that their child is in that situation, maybe they are so fed up and they always see their child in a gambling situation, They conclude that once they give their child an inheritance, it will lose quickly because of his/her Gambling addiction.



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November 14, 2023, 05:15:57 AM
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This will vary in each country because matters regarding inheritance are usually discussed within the family. If someone cannot accept the inheritance decision, they will take it to court. But as long as the person is not involved in any problems, they can still get the inheritance. Usually, the giver of the inheritance will also investigate each person in the inheritance letter to determine who has the right to receive the inheritance.

This inheritance distribution should not be done hastily and must be done carefully. If not, there will be parties who cannot accept it and this has happened in many places. Brothers fought over their inheritance and even had to end their brother's life. But every parent will definitely distribute their inheritance fairly so that all their children are willing to accept the decisions made by their parents.

For more details, we can seek information from parties who know the legal field. This is so that there are no mistakes in dividing the inheritance so that it does not cause a commotion among the heirs.

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November 14, 2023, 05:53:35 AM
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Well, you have to understand that your parents money was never yours, it was something that was generated from the hard work of your parents. You cannot claim ownership of the money that was supposed to be a gift from your parents.

You cannot contest the "Will" without taking in consideration that your parents did this, because they wanted to protect you. There are consequences for your actions and you should learn something from this.

We all have to work for our money and we should be responsible when we spend it.  Wink

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November 14, 2023, 06:18:48 AM
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in my country there is no law like this so I have never experienced or seen this happen but from my understanding the law cannot be judged from just one side but must be from another point of view because the law for me there are several things that will determined and must require parties who are more in depth with such laws and if you think that the heir does not feel that he is not a chronic gambler that is just the heir's point of view but from the judge point of view it is likely to be different because they have other grounds that make all of that true but in my opinion, if you really want to prove that the heir is not a chronic gambler, it will be a little difficult because if there is a law like that, usually in that country it actually slightly prohibits gambling activities and is considered a little bad.
So if you want to prove that you are not a chronic gambler, you need a lawyer or anyone who is knowledgeable in the specified areas of state law.

in the country I currently live in there are no laws like you said so it possible that I have more or less experience but the most important thing is that there are still ways that I mentioned to appeal about it all.

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November 14, 2023, 07:00:28 AM
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I don't know about other country's law that exist in regards to inheriting but as far as I understand in mine?
parents can decide whom they will inherit as long as they are alive , meaning they can give the funds to charity if they don't believe their children deserves such , so what more about you are mentioning? if the person involved is in gambling(either chronic or not) and the parents does not want her or he is not following their wantings so parent can easily decide to disinherit them.
I also believe that parents has the rights by all means to what to do in their hard earned money and it is not an obligation to bring this to children that does not care about their money.
If I am to decide and learn about my children being a gambler? i may also decide not to give them my money and wealth because this will only goes to vain .









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November 14, 2023, 07:03:03 AM
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it's quite difficult to determine whether this is legal or not considering that people's opinions on this matter can vary. as parents it is their right to pass on their assets to whom they want or not at all. but children also have a share of their parents' assets, such as rights where they can ask for inheritance from their own parents.

and because of this, inheritance issues often end up in court where sometimes the parents win and the children lose, or vice versa. so depending on the evidence and actual conditions, it can be said to be legal or not.

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November 14, 2023, 07:16:11 AM
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I've never heard of such law before, maybe because there is no rich man who have done the same thing to their children around us, my father and mother already gave me everything they want me to have, they keep saying it is not good to pass properties to their children after they died, let them manage it while they are still alive to see how the kids will behave with the properties, I got some lands from them but they don't know that I am into gambling, I believe that if they knew they will be disappointed so I keep it away from them.

I've said this before that when you are a gambler in some certain country you are automatically an irresponsible person, this is what's going on with parents and people of my country, chronic gambler or not some parents don't care, once you don't listen to them you are slowly fading from their heart and I don't want to have my children not taking my advice wholeheartedly.

If your parent failed to pass their property to your care because you are a gambler you shouldn't take this seriously, because whatever belongs to your parents are not yours to begin with, you share the same surname, they gave birth to you, but you are not them and they are not you, this is my own self thought, I prefer to have my own things in my own name instead of something that doesn't originally belong to me.

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November 14, 2023, 07:20:23 AM
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Some countries have old laws, but I don't see anything wrong with everyone choosing what to do with their earned money. Everyone has the right to do what they want with their money. If parents choose to disinherit their kids, pushing them to build their paths and to learn about the values of hard work and self-earned success, no one should interfere with their decision. As I know some disrespectful people I can say I see the positive side of this, sometimes the only way to teach people/kids about real values is to take some extreme measures. Easy come easy go, so I guess this can be considered as some extreme measure, the last one that can make people rethink their attitude towards money and work.



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November 14, 2023, 07:22:17 AM
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There is no such law in my country but the truth is that parents want to will their inheritance on their child (s) that is of good and responsible conduct to fit taking the family's influences on honorable reputations but depends on the legacies or the lifestyles of the parent if they are responsibly reasons to maintain its integrity or not.
Although there are still parents whom wants their children to deviate from their realized being and doesn't want them (children) to inherit those of their legacies they realized it was irresponsible.

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November 14, 2023, 07:32:30 AM
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As a child, I think we have no right to ask for anything from our parents. Even if life is rich/poor, we should always be grateful to those who gave birth to us. I can understand that many people express their views on the law, but it's funny to talk about this, I think the father has the complete right to decide how the property will be inherited. Wealth is not to be accumulated and given to the next generation, but it is like a loop to support everyone, including children, a few billionaires in the world that I know have a very worthy way of raising their children. Instead of giving away all the money they earn, parents should instruct their children how to make money with their own hands without depending on wealth.
In this case, I think there is not enough data to conclude who is right and who is wrong, but there are a few views that I have expressed before. However, it seems the parents are doing it legally.
what do you mean as children,we have no right to ask of Anything from our parents? If children don't ask from their parents,who should they ask from,I mean I don't know why people will think of something that is not really in place and just say it because they want to make comments.For your information,it is the sole duety of the parents to provide for their children,and what ever they see it is right for their children, providing them those things is the best thing to do.By the way I am not in a support of the fact that children will use their inheritance or sell their inheritance for gambling,this is really bad,and it is good for any parent who notices or sees it that their children are misbehaving,to properly caution and correct them

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November 14, 2023, 07:40:56 AM
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Your parents are very rich and they have made a will while they are still alive Your parent is disinheriting you on the ground on one of the laws in our country about disinheritance that

How the heir would know about the will of his parents? Isn't the will supposed to be kept a secret, until his parents die?
If the heir knows about the will, he will do the best he can to make the will invalid. This doesn't make any sense, if you ask me.
I don't know much about the inheritance legislation in my country, but I think that, in my country, the parents could disinherit their kids, even if their kids don't have a dishonorable and disgraceful lifestyle. I'm not a lawyer and I don't know how a gambler can prove in court, that he is a moderate gambler and not a gambling addict. Perhaps the court will have to commission psychic doctors to examine the gambler.

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November 14, 2023, 07:47:49 AM
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Do you have a case here on the ground that it is not proven that you are a chronic gambler and have not lost a fortune in gambling, can you appeal this case in court to make the will invalid and get your part in the inheritance?

Here in our country, you cannot disinherit your heirs as long as the heir does not violate what's stated in the law about inheritance and they just used the quoted message as their ground.


What's your take on this and what do your country's laws say about this?


This is a hard question and since there is a lot of money involved you should definitely work a good lawyer. Depending on the inheritance you should get the best possible lawyer available, because there might be a chance to overturn the will of your parents and still get all your money. One issue here is if you have many siblings? It could be that they will try to fight you for it as it's their share of your parents’ money that gets lower. In my country the law is very different. Parents could disown you without any reason, as long as there is a will, they could give all their money to charity. However, there is a certain amount which belongs to the children even if the parents don't want to give it to them. That money any court would give you without an issue. Another issue is if all the people involved in the will say it's invalid, then the will would be discarded and the standard regulation would apply. Maybe in your country there is a similar special law, then you could work together with all your siblings to get the will annulated. In any case, gambling alone should never be an issue for our parents to disown us and you should talk to your parents, maybe you can change your mind. Is this something both your mother and father want or is it maybe just your father or mother alone pushing the subject?
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November 14, 2023, 08:08:30 AM
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If a child has proven to be unstable or generally a danger to others, parents may chose to give their property to someone else when they pass.
Yeah of course, whenever a parents feels that there son is not worthy to inherit or take care of there properties when they left do to his odd ways of handling things they would channel all there properties to somebody else or to charity but in most cases the parents will do everything possible to guide there child on the right way but if he chooses the wrong parts then they disinherit him.

I have actually seen a scenario like that, the guy came from a wealthy home but his problem was gambling addiction, he gambles with almost everything he has, there was a time he used one of there properties to gamble and lost everything so the parents was so disappointed and tried to pulled him out from it but all to no  avail so since they know that leaving all there many years of hardwork under his care may there greatest mistake so they had to give everything to the charity and left a little for him.

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