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November 14, 2023, 08:16:31 AM
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If a person is not able to control himself to gamble he may end up wasting everything. There are many gamblers who do not hesitate to sell their wealth for gambling. A responsible gambler will have any such influence they can control. But such heirs are those whom the law designates as entitled to a share of the inheritance, regardless of whether they are named in the will. Whoever has the will decides that they are not they can claim their share of the rightful share and if his share is given to another person the will will be void you cannot detain your immediate family members and you have to leave at least a small part of them which is known as legitimate part and it cannot be deprived even by writing it down in law it is not possible.

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November 14, 2023, 08:34:24 AM
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I don't believe that the parents don't have the concrete evidence that there child is way focused on gambling than his career, parents know their child better than anyone that's why I believe that there is more to the point you are sharing, if anyone is in this type of situation always ask them very well, there is always more to it than you know.

Every parents don't pray to leave their things behind in the hands of strangers or family, that's why children are important, so if you come across a father who decide disinherit their child then they have some valid reasons for it, if you come to my face with this problem I will advice you to change your ways and listen to your parent.

No one wants the best for us then those who gave birth to us, even if you get so lucky with gambling you don't have to build your while life around it, quit and find something good to use the money for, you can't keep gambling because it gives you a lot of money, if you don't quit you will be forced to quit by poverty.

Every penny you made from the house belongs to the house unless you stop gambling, one day you might lose everything back to the house, which are the rightful owners anyway, I am not against gambling but you need to use your brain.

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November 14, 2023, 09:27:14 AM
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First, "dishonourable or disgraceful life" seems like a broad and subjective criteria to disinherit someone. How do you define "chronic gambler"? Is it gambling frequency, loss, or life impact? It seems like a grey area

You now claim responsible gambling. Its cool, but how can you demonstrating you're not a chronic gambler. How can you prove a negative when gambling is typically viewed biassedly? If your parents havent proven your chronic gambling, their case may collapse.

Disinheriting an heir is difficult in many nations. Usually, the heir must have committed a legal or moral offence. If your country protects heirs from irrational disinheritance, you may have a fighting chance in court. Instead of starting a lawsuit, why not talk to your parents? Maybe a misunderstanding or impression can be resolved without lawyers. After all, court family feuds can look very bad. If you're not a chronic gambler and your parents are relying on a suspicious legal interpretation, you have a case.

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November 14, 2023, 09:41:14 AM
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What's your take on this and what do your country's laws say about this?


Our country is very specific on what grounds a parent can disinherit his children from having a share in their inheritance and gambling is not one of those, as long as he did not cause embarrassment to his family he is not deep into a loan and he has a bad reputation as a gambler.
The only way he can regain his status is to appear in court and make it clear that he is not a compulsive gambler, if he can represent himself then he can regain his status.
Our law here in our country sees to it that there's no confusion when it comes to disinheritance, you cannot disinherit your child based on your opinion alone as long as there is no violation in the terms or laws that govern inheritance he should get his shares.

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November 14, 2023, 10:38:14 AM
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Your parents are very rich and they have made a will while they are still alive Your parent is disinheriting you on the ground on one of the laws in our country about disinheritance that
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When a child or descendant leads a dishonorable or disgraceful life;
because of gambling but they have not proven that you are a chronic gambler and you think you are a responsible gambler.

Do you have a case here on the ground that it is not proven that you are a chronic gambler and have not lost a fortune in gambling, can you appeal this case in court to make the will invalid and get your part in the inheritance?

Here in our country, you cannot disinherit your heirs as long as the heir does not violate what's stated in the law about inheritance and they just used the quoted message as their ground.


What's your take on this and what do your country's laws say about this?

In our country, a disinherited heir can resist the disinheritance upon the will's probate in court. By submitting an appeal and providing enough proof to revoke the disinheritance. Proof to prove that you're not a chronic gambler, affidavits, medical evidence, and sometimes psychological report.

Once being cleared, the disinherited heir will be able to restore his position as the heir. He will be able to receive everything that is written for him from his parent's will.


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November 14, 2023, 10:57:41 AM
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There's also one thread that I did remember about this but it's difficult to find it. We may get some information there regarding this.

Anyway, I do believe the gambler has a low chance of winning this case especially if he is proven to gamble regardless of whether he is responsible or an addict.
I mean, there's no identification that can prove that you are a responsible gambler. We just believe that in ourselves and anyone can say that if he badly needs the money especially if it is an inheritance that will change his life. Even the gambling addicts can say that.
No paperwork will be presented to prove he is a good gambler. So even a lawyer will refuse this kind of case because it's only a losing case that will taint his record.

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November 14, 2023, 11:31:21 AM
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Your parents are very rich and they have made a will while they are still alive Your parent is disinheriting you on the ground on one of the laws in our country about disinheritance that
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When a child or descendant leads a dishonorable or disgraceful life;
because of gambling but they have not proven that you are a chronic gambler and you think you are a responsible gambler.

Do you have a case here on the ground that it is not proven that you are a chronic gambler and have not lost a fortune in gambling, can you appeal this case in court to make the will invalid and get your part in the inheritance?

Here in our country, you cannot disinherit your heirs as long as the heir does not violate what's stated in the law about inheritance and they just used the quoted message as their ground.


What's your take on this and what do your country's laws say about this?

In my country, there are no such laws and parents a given the right to share their wealth as they deem fit. The problem here will be the definition of "dishonourable or disgraceful life" and chronic gambling". How can the law determine that your gambling activity led to disgrace? Would it be determined by calculation of how much you spend on gambling in relation to your earnings? Is there any other indicator to measure gambling addiction in your country? If gambling is legal in your country, you have a good case and if you can prove that you gamble responsibly, you might win the case. But if there are clear proofs that you have wasted a fortune in gambling, then you might lose it.

But if my parents have decided not to give me any inheritance, I think it is based on some personal reasons and not just because of gambling. Maybe they assume that I will mismanage the inheritance and waste all in gambling. I may have been wasteful and brought shame to them. I will not also sue my parents for disinheriting me after all they own the property. I might consider begging and reassuring them that I will not misuse the gift. But if they refuse, I will work hard and get mine.     

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November 14, 2023, 11:46:28 AM
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Your parents are very rich and they have made a will while they are still alive Your parent is disinheriting you on the ground on one of the laws in our country about disinheritance that
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When a child or descendant leads a dishonorable or disgraceful life;
because of gambling but they have not proven that you are a chronic gambler and you think you are a responsible gambler.

Do you have a case here on the ground that it is not proven that you are a chronic gambler and have not lost a fortune in gambling, can you appeal this case in court to make the will invalid and get your part in the inheritance?

Here in our country, you cannot disinherit your heirs as long as the heir does not violate what's stated in the law about inheritance and they just used the quoted message as their ground.


What's your take on this and what do your country's laws say about this?


If you aren't really a chronic gambler and is a responsible one based on what you claim, you have to prove it in a legal manner. Maybe appealing to the court to pushed aside the last will of disinheriting you might be a good move. I'm not very familiar in terms of the legalities involving the law. But perhaps you can counter it as long as you can prove that you are very much sober and clean, far from being addicted like what your parents claimed you to be.

Although it appears very strange to me that you were labeled as a chronic addict when they have no proof. Probably one way or another, you displayed an attitude or behavior that made your parents think twice of leaving inheritance since it's really such a waste if their hard earned assets will just be used into funding bad gambling habits.
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November 14, 2023, 12:00:45 PM
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What's your take on this and what do your country's laws say about this?

To be honest. Im not sure what to do. Even though I consider myself a responsible gambler, I think I should take a break from it and try to appeal to the court. Alternatively I could speak with my parents about it and try to come to an agreement that works for everyone involved.
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November 14, 2023, 12:11:51 PM
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Your parents are very rich and they have made a will while they are still alive Your parent is disinheriting you on the ground on one of the laws in our country about disinheritance that
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When a child or descendant leads a dishonorable or disgraceful life;
because of gambling but they have not proven that you are a chronic gambler and you think you are a responsible gambler.

Do you have a case here on the ground that it is not proven that you are a chronic gambler and have not lost a fortune in gambling, can you appeal this case in court to make the will invalid and get your part in the inheritance?

Here in our country, you cannot disinherit your heirs as long as the heir does not violate what's stated in the law about inheritance and they just used the quoted message as their ground.


What's your take on this and what do your country's laws say about this?


If you aren't really a chronic gambler and is a responsible one based on what you claim, you have to prove it in a legal manner. Maybe appealing to the court to pushed aside the last will of disinheriting you might be a good move. I'm not very familiar in terms of the legalities involving the law. But perhaps you can counter it as long as you can prove that you are very much sober and clean, far from being addicted like what your parents claimed you to be.

Although it appears very strange to me that you were labeled as a chronic addict when they have no proof. Probably one way or another, you displayed an attitude or behavior that made your parents think twice of leaving inheritance since it's really such a waste if their hard earned assets will just be used into funding bad gambling habits.

But in that situation I guess it will be hard for him or anyone to prove that he's really clean away from being a chronic gambler if those officials will see that he's still participating on any gambling activities. Those proof maybe considered as valid grounds to disinherit him because they might put more bigger weights that he gamble rather than the defense of being in total control about the situation what's currently doing on.

Maybe he just need to show that he's not doing this thing anymore and he's ready to forget about any gambling activities just to regain back his inheritance since if they could able to see that he's a change man for sure his parents and officials involve with this law might give a consideration on the case and give back what he deserve to get. We just need to be responsible and maybe think about quitting on gambling totally so that we will have a fresh start up towards the wealth inherited by their parents.

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November 14, 2023, 12:30:20 PM
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There's also one thread that I did remember about this but it's difficult to find it. We may get some information there regarding this.

Anyway, I do believe the gambler has a low chance of winning this case especially if he is proven to gamble regardless of whether he is responsible or an addict.
I mean, there's no identification that can prove that you are a responsible gambler. We just believe that in ourselves and anyone can say that if he badly needs the money especially if it is an inheritance that will change his life. Even the gambling addicts can say that.
No paperwork will be presented to prove he is a good gambler. So even a lawyer will refuse this kind of case because it's only a losing case that will taint his record.

I am not aware of that but this thread will give a chance to the others who missed answering about disinheritance and gambling, the fact is my motivation to create this topic is from an article I read a long time ago about a gambler who got disinherited and regain his status as an heir through a court ruling.

Besides this is to remind gamblers to always take the side of responsible gambling, you never you could encounter a problem and issue like this with your parents
You deserve your parent's inheritance but you must show them that what they've worked for will not go to waste

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November 14, 2023, 12:33:10 PM
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in Italy all sons must receive equal shares of inheritance from parents, but obviously there are strategies to avoid this happening in these situations Roll Eyes likewise you get a villa, another one a shop.
Ok both have the same value but maybe there is a difference in earnings...

honestly I would not only stop playing, but I would do anything.
Gambling is ok, it's not a "bad" hobby, but it has to affect my relationship with my loved ones to such an extent, I would give it up immediately!

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November 14, 2023, 12:46:48 PM
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There's also one thread that I did remember about this but it's difficult to find it. We may get some information there regarding this.

Anyway, I do believe the gambler has a low chance of winning this case especially if he is proven to gamble regardless of whether he is responsible or an addict.
I mean, there's no identification that can prove that you are a responsible gambler. We just believe that in ourselves and anyone can say that if he badly needs the money especially if it is an inheritance that will change his life. Even the gambling addicts can say that.
No paperwork will be presented to prove he is a good gambler. So even a lawyer will refuse this kind of case because it's only a losing case that will taint his record.

I am not aware of that but this thread will give a chance to the others who missed answering about disinheritance and gambling, the fact is my motivation to create this topic is from an article I read a long time ago about a gambler who got disinherited and regain his status as an heir through a court ruling.

Besides this is to remind gamblers to always take the side of responsible gambling, you never you could encounter a problem and issue like this with your parents
You deserve your parent's inheritance but you must show them that what they've worked for will not go to waste
This kind of situation is really that not that rampant or something that on rare cases on which this would be only in talks about into those families who do have that big assets or properties on which a certain child or son/daughters would really be mindful or be careful on whatever action that they would be making basing up on the will whether it would be against or not but since we do know
that will does have that kind of ruling or conditions before their heirs would really be able to get that inheritance.

As per laws or legal aspects then it would really be that just right that you should really be following on whats mandated or else then you do know on what you should gonna do.
This is really just that on situational basis since not all would really be having those kind of wills or whatosever.  Smiley

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November 14, 2023, 12:56:10 PM
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Parents can do with their inherit whatever they want. They spend entire life reaching all that. Imho children should not live with an idea of getting something after their parents passes away. Work, earn yourself. Never live with a plan like father will leave my his money, mother will leave me the house, so I would just lay down, wait and enjoy life. But, there is a huge BUT. Parents instead should not use inheritance for manipulation.

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November 14, 2023, 01:04:13 PM
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in my country there has never been a law like that in fact I think why would parents revoke their inheritance rights by going to court, I think many rich people in my country immediately revoke their inheritance rights without worrying that their children will appeal, usually I never encountering cases like that, especially about chronic gamblers, if there is no evidence, why do you have to disinherit, that's a little strange in my opinion?

I myself, if I were a rich person, would probably do the same thing if I had a child who was an irresponsible and chronic gambler, because of course he would not be able to manage the wealth that I have and would only waste my money, that's why I prefer to pass on my wealth. I am for charity rather than giving it all to my child. because I want them to be able to work successfully like me, not to be successful gamblers, because we don't meet many successful gamblers nowadays, btw I never knew about inheritance laws in my country because I'm poor  Grin

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November 14, 2023, 01:09:33 PM
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I think it is absolutely appropriate to deprive a dependent relative of an inheritance. If the parents decide to do so, then they have every right to do so and they do it based on some conclusions. Perhaps this player has already shown himself from the bad side being under the influence of a bad habit. I think that if it is not a problem for this player to prove that he can quit gambling and live productively on, then such a person fully deserves an inheritance.

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November 14, 2023, 01:24:37 PM
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Your parents are very rich and they have made a will while they are still alive Your parent is disinheriting you on the ground on one of the laws in our country about disinheritance that
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When a child or descendant leads a dishonorable or disgraceful life;
because of gambling but they have not proven that you are a chronic gambler and you think you are a responsible gambler.

No, this is not possible, there may be such law but i can boldly tell that the government have no right to influence my decision on whom to be my inheritance or not, i would have admit this if it was coming from the family members and not the government, also being a gambler is not worth to that extent of disowning a child because he gambles and does not heed to the Father's instructions, now to cap it for disinheriting the child because of gambling sake, government will have to explain theirself in what they mean by saying this because someone like me cannot go by it, except i wish to.

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November 14, 2023, 01:48:29 PM
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The most poisonous thing for children is to make them feel like they are entitled to your properties, this mentality can make them to be less active on their own career, when there is something to fall back on it's easier to get weak in everything you are aiming for, I won't teach my children to rely on what I have, they must believe in themselves and in what they have.

If I am not getting part of my parents properties because I am into gambling so be it, in the first place I was not trained to rely on them and I don't think anyone should, you are training yourself to be discipline and different and it's all for your own good.

If my parent decided to pass on their properties to me I have no problem with it but it's really not something they must do, I have my goals and dreams and with the zeal in me I believe that I will get everything that I want.

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November 14, 2023, 02:09:26 PM
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What's your take on this and what do your country's laws say about this?
For me, gambling, inheritance, parents, children and the law, as far as I know, are different issues, basically inheritance is applied based on the laws and provisions that apply in each country, Regardless of whether the child is proven to be a chronic gambler or other things that make them lose.

In my opinion, like the story told by the OP, because the parents are still alive, of course the parents have an important role in determining the inheritance, Children do not have the right to sue in court in inheritance cases, unless: the parent has died.

Thus, I think parents have an assessment for the future, if the child changes and promises not to gamble anymore, Maybe there is an opportunity to get inheritance rights again, but all decisions rest with the parents, the law is subject to the first party, namely the parents.

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November 14, 2023, 02:32:50 PM
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It means you need to hide your gambling activity from anyone lol.

Such parents will force their kids to follow everything that they want and always threat their kids about disinherit whenever the kids not want follow one thing that they ask. If the kids are really brave, they can rent a house and start work hard, this will make you able to achieve a freedom.

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