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November 14, 2023, 02:42:04 PM
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Actually, even an illegitimate child has the right of inheritance. So a legitimate child even if the person is an irresponsible gambling addict can claim an inheritance. What more to a regular but responsible gambler, of course, they'll have more rights to claim inheritance like a business for example.

Except maybe in some countries where freedom is limited and betting is not allowed as they have their own different laws from most modern countries.

Personally, if my parents do not want me to inherit their assets because I bet casually, I'm not going to question it. But when it comes to assets they only inherit from their parents and other bloodlines, I'm absolutely going to contest it. But they can sell it to avoid inheriting it from a child they do not like.

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November 14, 2023, 02:46:24 PM
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What's your take on this and what do your country's laws say about this?


Here in our country, our law says that the heir has a right to their parent's property whether they left a will or not, in case of disinheritance it should be on what the laws say about disinheritance and playing in casinos unless very excessive is not a ground for disinheritance, the heir can appeal his case and let the court decides if the heir deserves to retain his inclusion.
Morally, the heir should have an inheritance because the parents will be gone and they have to see to it that their children will be good financially the parents can hire a lawyer to oversee the inheritance and just release it when the heir complies with what's on the will of the parents.
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November 14, 2023, 02:51:54 PM
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If that happens to me, of course I will appeal to the judge, because it is my right to appeal and prove that I am not who I am accused of being. I can show my gambling history to the judge and let them determine whether I am a chronic gambler or not. If it is not proven then I have the right to get my inheritance and my parents cannot protest against this.

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November 14, 2023, 04:17:58 PM
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If that happens to me, of course I will appeal to the judge, because it is my right to appeal and prove that I am not who I am accused of being. I can show my gambling history to the judge and let them determine whether I am a chronic gambler or not. If it is not proven then I have the right to get my inheritance and my parents cannot protest against this.
Yes, we can appeal if we don't feel like we are being accused, especially if we have never gambled at all, and it is just a false accusation that wants to erase our name from the inheritance letter. I think a child will definitely defend himself by saying that he doesn't gamble and doesn't have a gambling addiction at all and can get valid evidence that can help our defense. The court will of course, also defend someone who is innocent unless the court is paid for by our family members who don't want to see our name on the inheritance letter, so they will do many things to remove our name from the inheritance. But if parents are very close to their children, they will know their children's habits and will see for themselves that their children do not gamble and can definitely make the best use of the inheritance.

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November 15, 2023, 02:02:21 AM
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Your parents are very rich and they have made a will while they are still alive Your parent is disinheriting you on the ground on one of the laws in our country about disinheritance that
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When a child or descendant leads a dishonorable or disgraceful life;
because of gambling but they have not proven that you are a chronic gambler and you think you are a responsible gambler.

Do you have a case here on the ground that it is not proven that you are a chronic gambler and have not lost a fortune in gambling, can you appeal this case in court to make the will invalid and get your part in the inheritance?

Here in our country, you cannot disinherit your heirs as long as the heir does not violate what's stated in the law about inheritance and they just used the quoted message as their ground.


What's your take on this and what do your country's laws say about this?
I don't know what the laws in my country with regards to inheritance or what not. But obviously if you are the child then maybe you can file a case on court and fight it out and proved that you didn't live a dishonorable or disgraceful live. And the question is, since your parents are gone now, who will decide if you live that kind of live?

So it's better to make an appeal, to the parents though, it's just weird to see this in their last will. But maybe they just don't want to give their money to their kids if they chooses the wrong path in life and that is the lessons that the parents wanted to partake to their kids, even if they are no longer in this world.

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November 15, 2023, 02:07:34 AM
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What's your take on this and what do your country's laws say about this?

I believe this is tricky since a parents will not accuse you of being a chronic gambler if they didn’t saw their child gambling regularly. A simple proof that you are involved in gambling can be used against the court to backup their claim of disinheriting you.

Probing that you are not chronic gambler while you are involved on gambling is very to do especially if you are just fighting for money that is not originally yours. The parents have the right to decide who will receive the money. But I doubt this regular scenario in real life since you will obviously temporarily stop gambling if your parents gives you an ultimatum about inheritance. I can wait long time if we are talking about big inheritance money here.
For someone's parent to go as far as disinheriting their child from their wealth citing that the said child is a chronic gambler, I think they have tried their best to make sure the child in question leaves gambling but couldn't succeed. A lot of chronic gamblers are very good in using whatever that's in their possession to gamble and knowing fully well that their child will definitely gamble with which part of the wealth that's willed to him, they'll rather chose to will them to their responsible children who would not use the wealth for something that's not useful.
To be honest, this is a little unfair, but there is also something good in parents worrying about their children with a slight threat by revoking inheritance rights so that their children stop gambling because parents may be worried that the inheritance will be used for gambling, even though their children have not yet reached the stage of being chronic gamblers, as parents they will definitely still judge if they gamble is a bad act.
If I were his child, perhaps I would provide clarity and discuss it amicably and prove that the gambling activities I carried out would not cause problems or even if they did cause problems, assets that previously belonged to me could be withdrawn or granted to parties need.

In my own country there doesn't seem to be any law that regulates inheritance rights regarding the issue of committing disgraceful acts like the OP is talking about, so I think inheritance rights are still a private family matter, not a state matter.

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November 15, 2023, 02:29:59 AM
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What's your take on this and what do your country's laws say about this?

I believe this is tricky since a parents will not accuse you of being a chronic gambler if they didn’t saw their child gambling regularly. A simple proof that you are involved in gambling can be used against the court to backup their claim of disinheriting you.

Probing that you are not chronic gambler while you are involved on gambling is very to do especially if you are just fighting for money that is not originally yours. The parents have the right to decide who will receive the money. But I doubt this regular scenario in real life since you will obviously temporarily stop gambling if your parents gives you an ultimatum about inheritance. I can wait long time if we are talking about big inheritance money here.
For someone's parent to go as far as disinheriting their child from their wealth citing that the said child is a chronic gambler, I think they have tried their best to make sure the child in question leaves gambling but couldn't succeed. A lot of chronic gamblers are very good in using whatever that's in their possession to gamble and knowing fully well that their child will definitely gamble with which part of the wealth that's willed to him, they'll rather chose to will them to their responsible children who would not use the wealth for something that's not useful.
To be honest, this is a little unfair, but there is also something good in parents worrying about their children with a slight threat by revoking inheritance rights so that their children stop gambling because parents may be worried that the inheritance will be used for gambling, even though their children have not yet reached the stage of being chronic gamblers, as parents they will definitely still judge if they gamble is a bad act.
If I were his child, perhaps I would provide clarity and discuss it amicably and prove that the gambling activities I carried out would not cause problems or even if they did cause problems, assets that previously belonged to me could be withdrawn or granted to parties need.

In my own country there doesn't seem to be any law that regulates inheritance rights regarding the issue of committing disgraceful acts like the OP is talking about, so I think inheritance rights are still a private family matter, not a state matter.

I think the gambler is complacent that someone will provide for him even if he loses all of his money into gambling since his parents are rich. As for the parents noticing that their child has the habit of gambling that might affect their lifestyle so in the long term, once he inherited his family's wealth, for sure the parents might think that they would use that wealth for gambling that they provided for your future, so I think it is normal for your parents to take precautions with your actions, cause wealth can be drained in just seconds.

With that thinking, you would really need to prove that you are not addicted to gambling, like giving them proof of your cash out and cash in.  Some gamblers, really think of gambling as their own way of investing money, not only that they would seek thrill and fun since they are already rich, but to make more money in means of way of gambling.

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November 15, 2023, 07:31:19 AM
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To be honest, this is a little unfair, but there is also something good in parents worrying about their children with a slight threat by revoking inheritance rights so that their children stop gambling because parents may be worried that the inheritance will be used for gambling, even though their children have not yet reached the stage of being chronic gamblers, as parents they will definitely still judge if they gamble is a bad act.
If I were his child, perhaps I would provide clarity and discuss it amicably and prove that the gambling activities I carried out would not cause problems or even if they did cause problems, assets that previously belonged to me could be withdrawn or granted to parties need.

In my own country there doesn't seem to be any law that regulates inheritance rights regarding the issue of committing disgraceful acts like the OP is talking about, so I think inheritance rights are still a private family matter, not a state matter.
It shouldn't be a threat, but maybe the parents can take an approach so that their children can understand why their parents don't like gambling and what the consequences will be if they get an inheritance and later it will only be used for gambling. If parents can discuss it with their children carefully, there is a possibility that their children will understand on their own and understand the intentions and goals of their parents who ask them to stop gambling. His parents really care about their children and do not want to see them take the wrong path, especially if their children inherit a large amount later. His parents want to see that their children can use their inheritance properly and correctly so that they can prepare it for their children so they can develop it even more. If everything can be discussed amicably between parents and their children, they don't need to go to court to resolve the problem. Most inheritance issues that cause a stir are due to misunderstandings between parents and their children or between their siblings.

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November 15, 2023, 11:15:04 AM
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If that happens to me, of course I will appeal to the judge, because it is my right to appeal and prove that I am not who I am accused of being. I can show my gambling history to the judge and let them determine whether I am a chronic gambler or not. If it is not proven then I have the right to get my inheritance and my parents cannot protest against this.
Well if only appeals allows in your country then you can do that, One solid proof that you may present to the court is a valid psychological report or any medical report that will shows that you're not having a symptoms of being a chronic gambler. You can show them your gambling history if you have, compile all the evidence that will help you to restore rights and inheritance from your parents.



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November 15, 2023, 11:35:06 AM
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If that happens to me, of course I will appeal to the judge, because it is my right to appeal and prove that I am not who I am accused of being. I can show my gambling history to the judge and let them determine whether I am a chronic gambler or not. If it is not proven then I have the right to get my inheritance and my parents cannot protest against this.
I think it is the right way to prove that you are not a chronic gambler, provide proof and also ask them to track your account, I think you can manipulate this too by gambling using crypto and then using your friend's account to cash it out, after all, it is also strange if the right Inheritance is revoked just because you have not been proven to be a chronic gambler, that's why I never use my bank account to make deposits to gamble except using my crypto.

It's more anonymous using crypto so it's easier not to be seen that we are chronic gamblers. If it hasn't been proven, we can definitely appeal easily by showing supporting evidence, whereas parents who don't have any evidence will definitely not win that way. let alone wanting to write you off as an heir.

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November 15, 2023, 06:24:54 PM
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The law should have nothing to do with the will and inheritance of someone. It should be the decision of the father or the parents to decide whether they would want their child to have whatever they have after they are no more or not if they think he is living a dishonorable and disgraceful life, they decide to take and no court or law should force them to not do it if their child is dishonorable or whatever, it's their child, so just let them decide what to do with the inheritance.

The same should go for the child, there should be no case against the parents in case they disinherit them and don't want to give their wealth to them. A person has all the right to choose who they want to inherit their belongings after they die, even a person who works as a maid in their house or maybe a friend, a relative, or anything.

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November 15, 2023, 09:23:39 PM
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The law should have nothing to do with the will and inheritance of someone. It should be the decision of the father or the parents to decide whether they would want their child to have whatever they have after they are no more or not if they think he is living a dishonorable and disgraceful life, they decide to take and no court or law should force them to not do it if their child is dishonorable or whatever, it's their child, so just let them decide what to do with the inheritance.

That should be the case but the law wanted to protect innocent people of their right.  As long as the heir does not bring shame to the family, or trouble that degrade their family's reputation, the heir can contest if the parents decided to remove his inheritance.  That is at least what is the law in my country.  If the action of disinheriting is not legally done, then as I stated the supposed to be heir that is inherited can file an appeal to the court.

I think that is better that way to avoid exploit and abuse of disinheriting.

The same should go for the child, there should be no case against the parents in case they disinherit them and don't want to give their wealth to them. A person has all the right to choose who they want to inherit their belongings after they die, even a person who works as a maid in their house or maybe a friend, a relative, or anything.

But some country protects the right of person to inheritance.  This is made to avoid confusion and misunderstanding between relatives, and the government had made an order of priority.  And this order is protected by the law, thus if something not normal happened, like disinheritance of the supposed to be heir, it should be done legally and can be contested legally.  Legally means according to what is written on the country's law about inheritance.
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November 15, 2023, 09:30:05 PM
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The law should have nothing to do with the will and inheritance of someone. It should be the decision of the father or the parents to decide whether they would want their child to have whatever they have after they are no more or not if they think he is living a dishonorable and disgraceful life, they decide to take and no court or law should force them to not do it if their child is dishonorable or whatever, it's their child, so just let them decide what to do with the inheritance.
If that's what he thinks that the law can alter the decision of the owner of the inheritance, he's just going waste his resources paying for the legal counsel.

What he needs to do is just to be kind to his parents and ask politely so that he might given even a bit of it.

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November 15, 2023, 09:43:35 PM
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Whoever is behind the story fucked up big time to have allowed his parents notice his gambling habits... They may not be reasoning the same thing as you have but, Thier decisions would mean alot to them since you're only the "next of kin" and won't forcefully claim the properties to yourself except there is no will.
I would only beg and then try as much as possible to convince them that I'm a changed person and I'd wanna retain my new personality..

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November 15, 2023, 09:57:46 PM
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Actually, even an illegitimate child has the right of inheritance. So a legitimate child even if the person is an irresponsible gambling addict can claim an inheritance. What more to a regular but responsible gambler, of course, they'll have more rights to claim inheritance like a business for example.

Except maybe in some countries where freedom is limited and betting is not allowed as they have their own different laws from most modern countries.

Personally, if my parents do not want me to inherit their assets because I bet casually, I'm not going to question it. But when it comes to assets they only inherit from their parents and other bloodlines, I'm absolutely going to contest it. But they can sell it to avoid inheriting it from a child they do not like.

Things happen and we have to respect the nature sometimes because you can do more than what you can give. There are some children that can be control and there are some that no matter how you force them to be something, they will choose their path and to me, if they are not below 18 years, they should be allow to live their lives as they fit, whatever happens should be their responsibility because after all, there is consequences for every action.

There are even some responsible children that inherited good amount money from their parent and as soon as they received it, they spend everything under a month, year and some few years on women and alcohol, isn't that painful and worse than even gambling that some see as bad character. Gambling addiction is a bad behavior that can be taken away with sense and not a completely bad behavior to stop a child from inheritance.

If I'm the parent and he is yet to change, I will make sure he change and the only reason I will give him the inheritance is if I see changes. I know some people will say he is going to change because of the money but I will split it into 25% to be distributed in 10 years so that he doesn't go back to gambling after giving him everything.

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November 15, 2023, 10:33:04 PM
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I'll freely accept their judgment and I would not dare clear my name. Inheritance is something that a lot of people are longing for, since it's an easy way to get off the reins of poverty. No sweat, no hardwork, just wait for your family to die and leave you off with something to work with.

But for me, even if I gamble, I'd probably not go full degenerate and still know when to stop. If they don't give me any inheritance, that is fine. I can work my way up there while still being true to myself. I'll gamble and not live according to what other people want just so they can give me something.
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November 15, 2023, 10:48:40 PM
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Your parents are very rich and they have made a will while they are still alive Your parent is disinheriting you on the ground on one of the laws in our country about disinheritance that
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When a child or descendant leads a dishonorable or disgraceful life;
because of gambling but they have not proven that you are a chronic gambler and you think you are a responsible gambler.

Do you have a case here on the ground that it is not proven that you are a chronic gambler and have not lost a fortune in gambling, can you appeal this case in court to make the will invalid and get your part in the inheritance?

Here in our country, you cannot disinherit your heirs as long as the heir does not violate what's stated in the law about inheritance and they just used the quoted message as their ground.


What's your take on this and what do your country's laws say about this?


If that is what is stated in the will, it cannot be changed, instead that is what should happen, Since the person who made the will is still alive, there is a high chance that it will be changed if what is stated in the will of testament.

So the best way to change that is to talk to the inheritor himself, and at least in this matter the situation will be different because it is between the personal feelings of a family. Then if you really want to be settled, the simple thing to do is to follow what is in the will for as long as the author is alive.


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November 15, 2023, 10:52:51 PM
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The clause that talks about your disgraceful or dishonorable life is a little tongue in cheek if I do say so myself. First off, it's a little convoluted. You don't really have exact and final grounds to decide whether someone's lived a "disgraceful" life. For all we know first generation Chinese parents could literally disown their kids if they chose a different course or college program than medicine or business lol. Another would be the fact that this is their money, and they wouldn't be jailed since technically, they are not disowning you. You're probably still going to receive their stipends and support while you still live, but don't expect to receive any when they die is what this clause means.

How do you solve this? Well perhaps just be on their good side for a while, it's obvious that they have a problem with your gambling habits, no matter how "disciplined" you are. Quit it for a while and do some other worthwhile things and show it to them. If things play out right you're getting your name back on the will, if it doesn't. Well at the very least you know for sure you're not chained to your gambling impulses.

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November 15, 2023, 11:01:02 PM
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The government already has a considerable and quite worrying influence on the choices and decisions of its citizens. The idea of them butting in and limiting your options on who you can include in your will is crazy. It’s simply not the governments business to dictate the eligibility of people in a will as an individual should have the right to put and take away  on his will, whoever he chooses.

Could a will be challenged in court? Isn’t the will supposed to be like an open and shut thing? If nothing was willed to you, you get nothing.
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Your parents are very rich and they have made a will while they are still alive Your parent is disinheriting you on the ground on one of the laws in our country about disinheritance that
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When a child or descendant leads a dishonorable or disgraceful life;
because of gambling but they have not proven that you are a chronic gambler and you think you are a responsible gambler.

Do you have a case here on the ground that it is not proven that you are a chronic gambler and have not lost a fortune in gambling, can you appeal this case in court to make the will invalid and get your part in the inheritance?

Here in our country, you cannot disinherit your heirs as long as the heir does not violate what's stated in the law about inheritance and they just used the quoted message as their ground.


What's your take on this and what do your country's laws say about this?

Providing your innocence is one way I think will help him a lot because with legal matters, if you can make proves then their could be possible considerations that could be made. But then in the Will there have to be further statement about what should be done if his innocences can be proven.

My country I don't think I have come across any law or policy with such strings attached but in most cases wills are usually been follows just the way it was stated and wanted by the client. But then I think in situations as this the case could be appealed and further investigation done to ascertain the real truth regarding the person concerned and when it's determined maybe possible adjustments in that regards could be effected.

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