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November 15, 2023, 05:19:27 AM
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Do you think it's a good idea to earn money that way? You are taking advantage of situation where person needs help and instead of offering help, you add fuel to the fire and push him to take loan from you to continue gambling and ask for interest on top of that. It seems to me that you manipulate with people and laugh on them, call them losers. Please don't be a bad guy who abuses poor, lost guys. The only morally acceptable and responsible way to invest in gambling is to invest in casino or hold your money on websites like freebitco.in


Some people don't care how they make money. They are open to even making people suffer or lose their belongings because of profit maximization. I can relate this kind of business to sitting at a bar and loaning people money to keep drinking knowing fully well that they are already drunk. Nobody will be happy to see his friends or relatives taking loans just to satisfy an abnormal behavior and I am sure that OP will not be pleased to be in such a condition. There are many other ways to invest in gambling than giving loans to gamblers. Starting a small bet shop in his location wouldn't be a bad idea. At least he could make some profit from it instead of his current ideas. If he wants to start a loan business, he needs to gather information because, from his idea of loaning money to gamblers, he would not be a successful loaner.

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November 15, 2023, 05:26:41 AM
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Such a business is quite profitable. but dealing with an addicted gambler will never go smoothly. Even though gamblers have collateral assets for the loans they get, more gamblers will simply ask for additional loans and the assets they own will belong to the lender.
Honestly, I avoid that kind of thing. especially if there are gamblers who borrow money to play without collateral. it will only harm us as lenders. but if anyone sees this business opportunity, and succeeds in doing it. I believe they must have power in the casino. in the sense that an ordinary gambler cannot easily build a business in a casino environment.
If that's the case, this kind of business is not profitable anymore. Gamblers will probably ask for additional loans, that's for sure. Meaning, that as long as they have an asset to offer for collateral, they can do so. However, this won't go on forever, sooner or later problems will occur, and you will have a hard time asking for the payment for the loans.

Giving a loan to someone that is being used for gambling is not a good idea. The risk is too high. Even if a gambler has a contract, collateral, or even counseling to make them understand that the loans must be paid back, if he can no longer provide for himself, the loan will not be paid.


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November 15, 2023, 06:21:03 AM
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I tends to make this a deal with interest charges with concrete agreement to be secured and I will be opened to also accepting collaterals.

I verily know that I will succeed more of the inexperienced and those gamblers who doesn't have gambling budgets including those who can't take control over their gambling emotions

You seem to know this business because you are a gambler yourself but it is also important to do a feasibility study since this is a business where you are going to make a profit, check the legality, frame guidelines on who can and cannot avail and the most important is how to recover your loan even if there is collateral some collaterals lose their values over time. of course, it's a risky business because you are dealing with gamblers who are emotional about their losses.
The first few months are the most important, don't think twice about changing your business if you think that it's giving you losses and headaches.
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November 15, 2023, 06:43:28 AM
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I am a discipline and a responsible gambler but tend to quit gambling somedays.
I think I am going to be missing the whole fun of it but if I would find it difficult keeping total off it, I have thought of going around the gambling grounds (gambling tables) with a logical lucrative planning to taking advantage over the gambling tables though am not gonna be a partaker in the gambling anymore.

How do I take advantages over the gambles while I am not gambling anymore?
I tend to invest in the gambling. How?
At my visits in the gambling grounds, I will be lending my funds to the losers who has run out of  funds and willing to bet more if they have more money.
I tends to make this a deal with interest charges with concrete agreement to be secured and I will be opened to also accepting collaterals.

I verily know that I will succeed more of the inexperienced and those gamblers who doesn't have gambling budgets including those who can't take control over their gambling emotions

You are confused, you don't know what investment is all about and gambling is very differ from investment, I think you need to do some readings yourself, there is no way to invest in gambling, because it's not an asset or real estate.

I don't think that casinos have shares too, like how we can invest on twitter and Facebook, if its possible then you will be investing on a casino company by buying their stock, you need to make a choice as you can't quit gambling and still be able to make money from gambling.

It's better to quit if you want and invest in something that will give you passive income every day, this is better as you can see with your eye why you invest your money on, and you will also be able to handle it yourself, stop looking for ways to invest in gambling because you can end up getting scammed.

Do your own research on gambling stocks if that's what you are looking for, there are few places online to visit for this, like etoro and saxo, mind you the casinos on these stock investment platforms are located in the US and far distance foreign countries, like Las Vegas Sands Corp or Boyd Gaming, just make sure you do your own research.

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November 15, 2023, 06:48:46 AM
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I am a discipline and a responsible gambler but tend to quit gambling somedays.
I think I am going to be missing the whole fun of it but if I would find it difficult keeping total off it, I have thought of going around the gambling grounds (gambling tables) with a logical lucrative planning to taking advantage over the gambling tables though am not gonna be a partaker in the gambling anymore.

How do I take advantages over the gambles while I am not gambling anymore?
I tend to invest in the gambling. How?
At my visits in the gambling grounds, I will be lending my funds to the losers who has run out of  funds and willing to bet more if they have more money.
I tends to make this a deal with interest charges with concrete agreement to be secured and I will be opened to also accepting collaterals.

I verily know that I will succeed more of the inexperienced and those gamblers who doesn't have gambling budgets including those who can't take control over their gambling emotions
Giving up gambling and instead leveraging other gamblers to earn profits and satisfy enjoyment, your plan sounds interesting, but I think it's not easy to implement.

- Firstly, are you sure that the profits you earn will be equal to or better than your current gambling? And if one day you see a gambling opportunity where, with your experience, you know you could win, would you jump in? Have you thought about those psychological situations?

- Secondly, lending money to gamblers to make a profit is not a new concept, but it requires you to have the ability to collect debts if the gamblers are unable to repay. How do you plan to recover your capital in such situations?

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What are the terms to guide you while doing your online business as an investor or someone who is ready to quite gambling. People always say what is possible but we often find out that it's actually difficulty for them to live by what they said because from what you wrote here I can't see if there are seriousness in it knowing too well that it's hard to give money to gamblers without any forms of payback and how are we sure the gambler will pay if they didn't win their games.


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November 15, 2023, 07:06:21 AM
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How do I take advantages over the gambles while I am not gambling anymore?
I tend to invest in the gambling. How?
At my visits in the gambling grounds, I will be lending my funds to the losers who has run out of  funds and willing to bet more if they have more money.
I tends to make this a deal with interest charges with concrete agreement to be secured and I will be opened to also accepting collaterals.
Of course this is not an investment, and if you really want to make definite profit and with less risk, then invest by participating and becoming part of the investors on gambling site.
This will be more profitable and provide less risk because you are actually investing, not funding gamblers so they can continue their gambling activities.
But if you lend it with an agreement that is agreed to by both parties, then it cannot be called an investment, but you become like a gambling loan shark.

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I verily know that I will succeed more of the inexperienced and those gamblers who doesn't have gambling budgets including those who can't take control over their gambling emotions
Of course you will earn more because you will get the money back along with the agreed interest, whereas they gamble with full risk and are not certain of winning.
This is kind of business that is quite profitable but really risky because you are dealing directly with gambler so that when you meet gangsters or people with more abilities, chances are they will not pay the money and take away what you have.

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November 15, 2023, 07:21:59 AM
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How do I take advantages over the gambles while I am not gambling anymore?
I tend to invest in the gambling. How?
At my visits in the gambling grounds, I will be lending my funds to the losers who has run out of  funds and willing to bet more if they have more money.
I tends to make this a deal with interest charges with concrete agreement to be secured and I will be opened to also accepting collaterals.

I verily know that I will succeed more of the inexperienced and those gamblers who doesn't have gambling budgets including those who can't take control over their gambling emotions

So basically you want to become a "loan shark" and you want to financially exploit gambling addicts? I wouldn't call this "investing".
This seems more like a mobster tactic. Can't you just come up with a better business plan or a somewhat original idea?
By investing in gambling, the first thing that comes in my mind is trying to build your own online casino or buying a share in an existing casino.
Are you sure that most gambling addicts have a collateral, in order to get borrow money from you?
Do you really think that the gamblers will be able to repay those loans and the interest rates?
Good luck with you so called "investment".

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November 15, 2023, 08:10:20 AM
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I don't think the idea of lending your money to gamblers really makes good sense like that. and I will confidently say that you are unlikely to succeed in that way because gamblers are liars, especially those who are addicted to gambling. You can hardly find the truth from them because they are always looking for money to continue gambling. So anyone who wants to lend money to gamblers should have the mind that the money is gone forever, or probably you will never have the right to return your funds.
 
I have seen many of these kinds of things in gambling shops in my country where gamblers will beg the cashier on the computer system to help them beg for credits that they will go and bring money from home, but all is a lie. At last, the cashier will be the one running after them to collect their money, and some of them will even run away and never visit the play again unless they find a way to get him or her. So with my experience as a gambler, learning money will be a very big risk.

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November 15, 2023, 10:46:39 AM
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This is as a considerations why i am adopting a concrete agreement system as earlier stated.... To maintain a better security in demands returns .

Whatever the concrete agreements are it should be something done legally I think you can acquire a recommended status from the gambling arena where you offer your service to make it legal and the rate agreeable to both parties, I have seen casinos doing it to their clients when they recommend lender and they guaranty the collateral, there is a legal way to do this and you should choose gamblers who has a good grade on casinos and have a good credit standing.

It's not about making a profit it's about being of help to someone who does not have money at the point but can afford to pay or fund their account but because of lack of time they need to take the loan, these are the clients that you should target not just any gambler that needs money to gamble.

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November 15, 2023, 11:01:54 AM
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i think it's not an investment, but rather a gamble. what you are doing is like gambling to gamblers because you don't know whether they will win or be able to pay the loan. unless you are a casino owner or someone who has a big stake in a casino, maybe your method will be successful because you know the industry inside and out, but if it only starts with players, it won't work and you will most likely go bankrupt.

compared to creating a business like that, it's better for you to buy shares in a casino platform like mgm resorts, las vegas sands, etc., and from that maybe you can get dividends and an increase in share prices, and that's lower risk than a loan business like that.

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November 15, 2023, 11:07:04 AM
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How do I take advantages over the gambles while I am not gambling anymore?
I tend to invest in the gambling. How?
At my visits in the gambling grounds, I will be lending my funds to the losers who has run out of  funds and willing to bet more if they have more money.
I tends to make this a deal with interest charges with concrete agreement to be secured and I will be opened to also accepting collaterals.
For me I think it will be a very bad decision by lending money to a gamber because irrespective of you both agreements about the payment schedule what makes you think that he is going to keep up to his words because there is every likelihood that before he decided to borrow money from you he has know any other place or source to get money and if perhaps he lose the gamble so how would you expect somebody like that to pay you back when he has no other means of getting money.

So perhaps in as much as lending money is a good business doesn't mean that we should lend money to anybody because one of the things about collecting a loan is that, is very easy to collect but paying back is mostly were the problem normally come from, so perhaps I would suggest that if you really want to venture into lending you could just give only to normal people who doesn't gamble instead of lending to gamblers.

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November 15, 2023, 11:25:59 AM
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It is  not a bad business idea mate. Once a gambler and always a gambler. Getting involved in such business would mean you always staying at the gambling house which means you will be regular at the casino plying your trade of making available loans for gamblers to access when ever they need it. However, I believe as a gambler you too know things involved when committing yourself into such deal as a form of business. Possibly, you would have to check for laws in your jurisdiction covering such business and act accordingly so as to avoid being apprehended by the law agencies. As a gambler I would also assume you know too well how the gambling lifestyle is and taking such risk is very detrimental and would require you being a thug with a high street life which would make your debtors pay back your loan irrespective of what their situation is  and you too be prepared too because your debtors too would always come for you if it happens that they gave a precious collateral and could not meet up with repayment and got if forfeited, they might result to come back in a rebellious and violent way to get back at you.

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November 15, 2023, 11:29:56 AM
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How do I take advantages over the gambles while I am not gambling anymore?
I tend to invest in the gambling. How?
At my visits in the gambling grounds, I will be lending my funds to the losers who has run out of  funds and willing to bet more if they have more money.
I tends to make this a deal with interest charges with concrete agreement to be secured and I will be opened to also accepting collaterals.
For me I think it will be a very bad decision by lending money to a gamber because irrespective of you both agreements about the payment schedule what makes you think that he is going to keep up to his words because there is every likelihood that before he decided to borrow money from you he has know any other place or source to get money and if perhaps he lose the gamble so how would you expect somebody like that to pay you back when he has no other means of getting money.

So perhaps in as much as lending money is a good business doesn't mean that we should lend money to anybody because one of the things about collecting a loan is that, is very easy to collect but paying back is mostly were the problem normally come from, so perhaps I would suggest that if you really want to venture into lending you could just give only to normal people who doesn't gamble instead of lending to gamblers.
Not a very bad decision but we know that it is very risky, Lending a money to unknown people who lose in gambling? I don't think it's a good idea because how are you sure that those gamblers will pay you back? when they win? By using of their collaterals? for me, If I am the lender, I'll do an intensive background check if that person is capable to pay me back or not since money is involve here. Indeed, Lending is a good business because you can earn more by payment interest but You should also be prepared for the risk and time commitment that is involved.



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November 15, 2023, 11:35:56 AM
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Oh boy, this is a terrible idea. I know you want to profit and you want to make your business related to gambling. But please refrain from doing this investment concept because it will just break so many newbies and addicts.

You will be like a loan shark based on your statement and honestly, those people are the worst. They take advantage of the weakness of other people. They are not really trying to help, rather they are even luring you to your downfall. And that specific trait of greediness is all over your post. It's a shame if you will not think of other people's welfare and just nonchalantly put up a business where you can earn, because how about them? Instead of extending a hand to keep them away from excessive gambling, you are paving more ways for them to do so.

If you got no conscience, then do it. But if there's still humanity left in you, think many times about it and hopefully do not push through. It will just damage them financially and mentally speaking.
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November 15, 2023, 11:37:36 AM
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I am a discipline and a responsible gambler but tend to quit gambling somedays.
I think I am going to be missing the whole fun of it but if I would find it difficult keeping total off it, I have thought of going around the gambling grounds (gambling tables) with a logical lucrative planning to taking advantage over the gambling tables though am not gonna be a partaker in the gambling anymore.

How do I take advantages over the gambles while I am not gambling anymore?
I tend to invest in the gambling. How?
At my visits in the gambling grounds, I will be lending my funds to the losers who has run out of  funds and willing to bet more if they have more money.
I tends to make this a deal with interest charges with concrete agreement to be secured and I will be opened to also accepting collaterals.

I verily know that I will succeed more of the inexperienced and those gamblers who doesn't have gambling budgets including those who can't take control over their gambling emotions

Several online and offline casino businesses accept investment from several investors but with varying minimum amounts, However, you have to be careful in choosing the casino business that you want to invest your money in, because some casino businesses run dirty businesses behind their backs and are supervised by the authorities. I would suggest that you take part in a referral program run by a gambling site, instead of lending your money to gamblers who are running out of capital.



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November 15, 2023, 11:57:38 AM
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b]How do I take advantages over the gambles while I am not gambling anymore?[/b]
I tend to invest in the gambling. How?
At my visits in the gambling grounds, I will be lending my funds to the losers who has run out of  funds and willing to bet more if they have more money.
I tends to make this a deal with interest charges with concrete agreement to be secured and I will be opened to also accepting collaterals.

I verily know that I will succeed more of the inexperienced and those gamblers who doesn't have gambling budgets including those who can't take control over their gambling emotions
This is thoughtful of you, and providing funds for gamblers who need it is a win for you and a win for the gambling house, but will be a loss for the gamblers if they are just losing and wasting money over and over again. This is not different from the arrangement where some companies would stand as a middleman between buyers and sellers and would charge their interest on the goods bought at a certain period of time.

However, the two major challenges envisaged are;

1. Capital: You need enough money for this to be successful, and the more you gain popularity, the more money you will need.

2. Recovery arrangement: This is where the main issue lies. It's easy to give a loan, but collecting the loan could be more challenging than you think, also some people will never pay the debt. Mind you, loan default is not a criminal offence, especially when it's related to gambling, so you might want to think twice.

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November 15, 2023, 12:08:41 PM
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This is so risky for me if I had to do the same here in my country. Some people are willing to get a loan but are unwilling to pay and is willing to get into prison as well. 😅 Some people I know actually do this and after they get that loan they disappear and never to be seen again. But infairness, this is a nice idea of yours and this will only work with those people whom you lend money to that is close to you and you know them very well.



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November 15, 2023, 12:27:01 PM
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How do I take advantages over the gambles while I am not gambling anymore?
I tend to invest in the gambling. How?
At my visits in the gambling grounds, I will be lending my funds to the losers who has run out of  funds and willing to bet more if they have more money.
I tends to make this a deal with interest charges with concrete agreement to be secured and I will be opened to also accepting collaterals.
The idea is good but that was a risky decision to make a deal with these gamblers to take a loan. Why? You are helping them to become more addicted and possibly, they will take additional loans until they can never pay you back. In the end, you both are the losers of this idea unless you set a limit and an agreement that could force them to pay using their collateral.

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November 15, 2023, 12:31:28 PM
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Did you really make it?

If a lending service from official institutions are not always work very well, how can lend money to gambler will work? I'm sure most of gamblers will not want to pay back their loan, they can also force you to give them loan when you reject their request for not having a legit collateral.

I'd say it's a business with small gain and very high risk, not worth it.
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