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November 21, 2023, 04:46:52 AM
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How do I take advantages over the gambles while I am not gambling anymore?
I tend to invest in the gambling. How?
At my visits in the gambling grounds, I will be lending my funds to the losers who has run out of  funds and willing to bet more if they have more money.
I tends to make this a deal with interest charges with concrete agreement to be secured and I will be opened to also accepting collaterals.

I verily know that I will succeed more of the inexperienced and those gamblers who doesn't have gambling budgets including those who can't take control over their gambling emotions
Funds are produced when we worked and reap the profits we generates from our business and investme, that's how to keep milking steady streams of income. Experience is just what everyone needs to stay put and ready to face challenges and also prepare the mind for gigantic profits. Gambling is one of the most relenting activities in the system, how can we quit gambling and also invest in gambling? It's makes no sense to me. Gamblers are open to both profits and losses and one should ensure he's able to surpassed losses with significant profits.

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November 21, 2023, 07:35:54 AM
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OP are you going to involve the government of your country about this or just you? I think it's not safe to start such business of lending gamblers money because

1. Most gamblers won't pay back what they own when the amount is too much, and if you threaten them too much you won't be safe either, how many stories of people killing people to avoid paying what they owe? There are many stories like this, and been just you doing this you can lose your life.

2. If something happens that involved the law and authority you will be at fault and they can charge you because you are not registered as a lender, there are standard lending business in the world today, so make sure you get a license and think about good security for yourself.

I don't have Interest in such business because I have seen lenders going through the stress of looking for debtors that refuse to pay the they owe back, some will run off leaving one country for another and you will have to put them on manhunt to get them arrested when they are in the public, if you think you can handle it you are free to do so, but be prepared, gamblers know how to owe a lot of money, most of the ate living a miserable life so they don't care.

That's right, people who are addicted to gambling will do anything, even if it's high risk for them, but it's because of their gambling addiction that drives them to commit crimes that can even involve the law in their country. And I've also heard the story you mentioned, where someone collected a debt from someone who owed him,  but the person (who owed the debt) threatened the person who collected the debt.  Of course the ones who are at fault are those who borrowed the money, they dare to borrow money to gamble because of the addictive desire to do so they take out loans to gamble again, and it is true to what you said, they will find it difficult to repay their debts, even when they have money, they will be more concerned with gambling because they think gambling can multiply money.

But with the losses they always get, they should realize that they have lost a lot of money because they always choose to double it by gambling. And what I fear is that they will commit crimes that will harm themselves and others who do not know anything. It's not funny to hear people who don't know anything but are influenced by someone who is addicted to gambling.  They should be aware of the harmful effects of gambling addiction that will bring big problems in the future, There is nothing wrong with gambling, but with a note that it can control itself well so that it can avoid severe addiction.

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November 21, 2023, 08:40:01 AM
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Are there really some investment gambling platforms that make this as business for gamblers to make deposit with them and Invest in, i see that many gambling platforms developers do have enough money for their establishment, but i don't know what other means one can use to begin to make money from gambling outside gambling itself, making an investment into gambling can only be afforded by those that have enough financial capacity for an establishement and not a regular gambler.
You can try looking at Blackjack.fun. There is an investment section for gamblers who want to try it. You can visit the thread to ask further questions or go directly to the site and ask in the chatbox.

Or you can look at freebitco.in or betfury. On these two sites, you invest in FUN and BFG tokens. But at freebitco.in, you can save BTC and get returns. Apart from that, you can also take advantage of Free Roll for members. Even though it's small, it can increase your satoshi count.

But whatever it is, you have to use the amount of money you can afford. Don't expect to make huge profits in a short time. And finally, be careful with the money you use to invest.

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November 21, 2023, 04:33:33 PM
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How do I take advantages over the gambles while I am not gambling anymore?
I tend to invest in the gambling. How?
At my visits in the gambling grounds, I will be lending my funds to the losers who has run out of  funds and willing to bet more if they have more money.
I tends to make this a deal with interest charges with concrete agreement to be secured and I will be opened to also accepting collaterals.

I verily know that I will succeed more of the inexperienced and those gamblers who doesn't have gambling budgets including those who can't take control over their gambling emotions
This is not investing in gambling. You are not different from a running a credit scheme. It is almost like gamblers using a credit card for gambling.
The real investing in gambling is opening and running a gambling business like a casino or a sports book.
If you have enough money you can partner with someone on this. In the mean time, you have to be careful about giving out money to gamblers they are terrible at paying back.

It is easy to apply such stigma to gamblers, called them out for not being good at paying back, but I would say it depends rather on the person and not what activities their partake in (consuming drugs do not count, though), there are gamblers who are responsible and will give the money back gladly in order to keep their reputation. I have seen at least one gambler here in the forum to ask for a loan directly to their casino account and he was granted such loan based on its reputation and level on the forum. It is about the same in the real life.

Also, running a credit scheme even though it does bot have anything to do with gambling is a legitimate way to do business, though. Even here in the forum we have got users who actively concede loans, many.
Running up a loan business isnt bad and what most people that do really focusing about is on the ethicality of such business on which taking up advantage into those people who had just wrecked themselves
on which you are really that trying out to offer them on getting some loans with those kind of interest. Well, its a sweet spot because you are pretty sure that they would really be getting specially to those
who are really that addicted. Its true that we cant really make out that directly judgement about people not to be able to repay their loans or debts to someone. It is really just that we are really just that
being conclusive when it comes to things.

This is why we do really end up on having that assumption that they arent capable on repaying but its true that there are people who cant really just that afford on making
their reputation to be  that something that bad, they do take loans but doesnt mean that they cant repay it on time.

If it is about ehticality and the things which the lender believes in, then I can understand the point on not giving loans to gamblers and those who have problems of addictions of any sort.
Keeping that point in mind, then I would certainly try to ask for the borrower for some information on what they plan to do with that money I would give them.
Also, this makes me wonder how loans work in countries where the Sharia law is the main form of government, like in Iran. Because as fas as I know, muslins are nor supposed to ask for interests... Not even mentioning the gambling prohibition they have.

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November 22, 2023, 07:29:50 PM
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I am a discipline and a responsible gambler but tend to quit gambling somedays.
I think I am going to be missing the whole fun of it but if I would find it difficult keeping total off it, I have thought of going around the gambling grounds (gambling tables) with a logical lucrative planning to taking advantage over the gambling tables though am not gonna be a partaker in the gambling anymore.

How do I take advantages over the gambles while I am not gambling anymore?
I tend to invest in the gambling. How?
At my visits in the gambling grounds, I will be lending my funds to the losers who has run out of  funds and willing to bet more if they have more money.
I tends to make this a deal with interest charges with concrete agreement to be secured and I will be opened to also accepting collaterals.

I verily know that I will succeed more of the inexperienced and those gamblers who doesn't have gambling budgets including those who can't take control over their gambling emotions

And you think that investing is not gambling? Sure, it gives you the feeling of having more control, but in truth, anything could happen and you would not know until it is too late. By the time you realize that something has happened, your investment has become worthless. Just look at examples like LUNA. Who would have thought that a "hack" would happen? Who knew the owner was not doing things as he should? Nobody from the investors.

I agree that you will make more money investing than with gambling, but nothing is safe. Everything is risky. Its important to remember that in life.

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November 22, 2023, 08:00:01 PM
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You can try looking at Blackjack.fun. There is an investment section for gamblers who want to try it. You can visit the thread to ask further questions or go directly to the site and ask in the chatbox.

Or you can look at freebitco.in or betfury. On these two sites, you invest in FUN and BFG tokens. But at freebitco.in, you can save BTC and get returns. Apart from that, you can also take advantage of Free Roll for members. Even though it's small, it can increase your satoshi count.
Many casinos have that section for investors if they offer that. And for those that have seen the tokenizing of some casinos, it is effective for them because they treat their investors as partners. While for some that offers investment, they don't have that tokenization of their assets or shares for the dividends.

Well, any way of tokenizing it seems to be effective as it gives the idea on how the economy of the crypto market and not just the side of the casinos. ANd they're more intriguing and interesting if you hold their token and they distribute the dividends in the form of btc. That's going to be more attractive for real.

But whatever it is, you have to use the amount of money you can afford. Don't expect to make huge profits in a short time. And finally, be careful with the money you use to invest.
Yeah, whether they will give you their tokens upon investing or not. What matters is your affordability to invest your money in the casino of your choice and always be mindful of the risk.

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November 22, 2023, 08:23:25 PM
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Funds are produced when we worked and reap the profits we generates from our business and investme, that's how to keep milking steady streams of income. Experience is just what everyone needs to stay put and ready to face challenges and also prepare the mind for gigantic profits. Gambling is one of the most relenting activities in the system, how can we quit gambling and also invest in gambling? It's makes no sense to me. Gamblers are open to both profits and losses and one should ensure he's able to surpassed losses with significant profits.

There is no crime in leaving gambling. I mean, don't gamble, and yet you invest in gambling. You can stop gambling and allow your money to do the work for you. Although the OP's strategy is not a good one, we can make an investment in gambling.
 
Casino owners are investors in the gambling sector. You can also be a shareholder in a new casino, which is also a form of investment in the gambling sector. When you do the thing right and with the right organisations, you can rest assured that you will be at the right place and your money will be generating profit for you.

So such a form of investing in gambling I see it as a good one, but walking into a betting shop and giving someone my money without a guarantee to gamble with is the kind of risk I can take, as it will also end in conflict.

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Well, when it comes down to it and it has to do with betting and investing in plays or even copying the plays of others, it is putting money at risk, a latent risk that Sometimes does not want to be yours but even so things can't happen. give according to what is being asked to put money in the hands of others or decision-makers of others to be able to have Access to more money , I do not see this as something fundamental, I consider that people are very decisive in doing things well That is to say, if we make or believe that a bet on a sport is made, the chances of winning are 50% yes and the other 50% no, it is something that we cannot change, when there are bets or investment of bets for other things. Whether they are groups, or by other people under what they get their bets, it's the same thing, it's as if we were betting only hiding that we only put the money and they put the risk or the whole style, here I am very knowledgeable in the range of To clarify concepts, everything that involves internal games in a casino cannot be called investment, the same applies to sports games, because it is already gambling, what does not apply is trading, investing in other things.

I have a clear concept that investment is and consists of Buying Bitcoin and waiting as long as necessary until you see profits, or buying real estate, or making a bet on gold, buy gold and wait, but in sports betting, I think that That is not called an investment but a risk, in itself everything that involves being in a random situation is a risk and is putting money in danger, and that is something that must be seen and considered as such, for That is that we are people who must do things very well to be able to have the best profits, and the implications are not to confuse the concepts, because if we enter an exchange thinking that trading is like the casino that is to do gambling Well, we are Wrong

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November 25, 2023, 07:17:54 PM
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How do I take advantages over the gambles while I am not gambling anymore?
I tend to invest in the gambling. How?
At my visits in the gambling grounds, I will be lending my funds to the losers who has run out of  funds and willing to bet more if they have more money.
I tends to make this a deal with interest charges with concrete agreement to be secured and I will be opened to also accepting collaterals.

Think about this decision again before you start this type of business; however, this is not even business and is not a nice idea at all. Everybody wants to invest where they will get their money back with profits, not where the capital will finish and nothing will come out of it. However, you said you would be lending losers your funds to play more games. How sure are you that after giving them that money, they will win the game? There is no agreement or anything you will do if you lend them money and they don’t get what they want to pay back. In the end, you will just leave them.
 
However, it seems like you are viewing gambling as a business where you will make money, right? I just hope you will quickly change because gambling can never be a way of making money. If you want to quit gambling, just do it and forget about gambling. Then you find another thing to do to make money, or you go back to what you were doing before you started gambling. I think it’ll be better than lending gamblers money.
 
However, if you said you were a gambler before and you decided to quit, but you will be borrowing people who lose in gambling to gamble more, how sure are you that you will not go back to gambling? I believe you will continue gambling because you will be sitting around them while giving them money, and that feeling will still be there.

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You can't succeed in doing it, mate. My reason is that you are there to borrow their money to gamble. When they lose and are willing to gamble more, which I believe in any business, you will want people to patronise. You don’t have a problem with whether they know how to do it or not. Your own is just for them to come and lend, then later pay back with profit. So how will you make them budget for how they will gamble? It will be impossible when you also want people to lose and come and lend money from you.

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November 25, 2023, 07:26:17 PM
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Funds are produced when we worked and reap the profits we generates from our business and investme, that's how to keep milking steady streams of income. Experience is just what everyone needs to stay put and ready to face challenges and also prepare the mind for gigantic profits. Gambling is one of the most relenting activities in the system, how can we quit gambling and also invest in gambling? It's makes no sense to me. Gamblers are open to both profits and losses and one should ensure he's able to surpassed losses with significant profits.

There is no crime in leaving gambling. I mean, don't gamble, and yet you invest in gambling. You can stop gambling and allow your money to do the work for you. Although the OP's strategy is not a good one, we can make an investment in gambling.
 
Casino owners are investors in the gambling sector. You can also be a shareholder in a new casino, which is also a form of investment in the gambling sector. When you do the thing right and with the right organisations, you can rest assured that you will be at the right place and your money will be generating profit for you.

So such a form of investing in gambling I see it as a good one, but walking into a betting shop and giving someone my money without a guarantee to gamble with is the kind of risk I can take, as it will also end in conflict.
High likely that you might really be ending up with conflict.Why? we cant really be able to conclude that those losers would really be totally having no money left into their bank. So what are your methods or ways to know if a certain gambler is really that eligible for the said loan or trying to approve out? Pretty sure that it would really be that already that too personal if you do dig in deeper about someones financial capacity.
I dont know on how those lendors would eventually do it for that kind of background check. Yes, someone could really be able to take up the risks considering that loan amount would be big and same goes with the
interest that you could really be able to patch it up on which it is really that profitable.

Somehow i do agree on some points above that it isnt really that something to be that ethical considering on how you are really that taking advantage on someones demise on gambling.
It isnt really that necessarily means that they are losers but making use as an advantage on someones tough situation doesnt really look or sounds fine but well
our conscience is really the ones that would really boggles us on which its up to you whether you would really be gonna dealing with it or not.

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November 25, 2023, 07:36:17 PM
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It seems to me a foolishness. So what are your initiatives that provide loans to gamblers to experience and succeed in gambling?  But I feel that your initiative will make those gamblers more unsuccessful in their lives. Because I think too much gambling depends on luck and the amount of experience or skill needed doesn't matter much to be successful in gambling. Rather, I think that people who take loans to gamble despite having no money are addicted gamblers, and addiction can never bring anything good.  The basic rule of gambling is to invest as much money as one can afford to lose. I think those who break this rule and gamble will only add more stress to their lives.  So I would say your idea is a bad idea.

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November 25, 2023, 08:29:26 PM
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How do I take advantages over the gambles while I am not gambling anymore?
I tend to invest in the gambling. How?
At my visits in the gambling grounds, I will be lending my funds to the losers who has run out of  funds and willing to bet more if they have more money.
I tends to make this a deal with interest charges with concrete agreement to be secured and I will be opened to also accepting collaterals.

I verily know that I will succeed more of the inexperienced and those gamblers who doesn't have gambling budgets including those who can't take control over their gambling emotions
Wow, your investment idea sounds good and funny at the same time, you as a gambler tells the other behavior of other gambler nowadays, sincerely speaking your idea sounds good but sometimes it might lead to a fight and quarrel, remember you're dealing with local gamblers who grow annoy over little matters and problem will definitely come maybe the pay back, some people have this bad habit of not paying debts and it may lead to fight.
Your idea at the same sounds bad, when you provide loans for angry gamblers who loss to a bet, of cause they will accept your loan and decide to play now what if the person didn't win the bet will you still give that person another loan?, when you keep providing loans for that person I think you're indirectly destroying the persons life. The worst part of it is most of these local gamblers don't even work so how do you expect them to pay you back. You're idea is not worth it dear.
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November 25, 2023, 09:13:20 PM
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It seems to me a foolishness. So what are your initiatives that provide loans to gamblers to experience and succeed in gambling?  But I feel that your initiative will make those gamblers more unsuccessful in their lives. Because I think too much gambling depends on luck and the amount of experience or skill needed doesn't matter much to be successful in gambling. Rather, I think that people who take loans to gamble despite having no money are addicted gamblers, and addiction can never bring anything good. 

I don’t even know what the Op was even thinking before coming up with this kind of idea. I can say that most of the people that will take the loan from him will end up losing the money, they won’t be able to multiply the money because they will be gambling under pressure, which they will end up losing. This kind of idea by Op is really wrong, and ideas like this will end up causing harm to our society. We all know people who will take loans are mostly addicted gamblers, so if they take loans and waste them on gambling, some of them might end up doing illegal things to be able to pay back the loan that they took.

The basic rule of gambling is to invest as much money as one can afford to lose. I think those who break this rule and gamble will only add more stress to their lives.  So I would say your idea is a bad idea.

Just gamble with any amount you know if you lose, it’s not going to affect you, and if you've already reached your limit, it’s just better you stop gambling at that moment. Don’t even think of keeping on gambling because you might end up regretting it if you continue gambling. So when gambling, always set a limit for yourself, and when you notice you are exceeding your limit, just stop. If you are using that strategy, I am sure you will never regret being a gambler, and you won’t do odd things just because you want to gamble.

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November 25, 2023, 09:19:20 PM
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Just gamble with any amount you know if you lose, it’s not going to affect you, and if you've already reached your limit, it’s just better you stop gambling at that moment. Don’t even think of keeping on gambling because you might end up regretting it if you continue gambling. So when gambling, always set a limit for yourself, and when you notice you are exceeding your limit, just stop. If you are using that strategy, I am sure you will never regret being a gambler, and you won’t do odd things just because you want to gamble.

Actually the gambler should understand the real game,because the better way to win the game was use the money which doesn't affect your monthly expenses.If you want to survive in the gambling for the longer period,it's better to use the money which doesn't affect your monthly expenses.So your family will not affect because of your loss in the gambling,Your wife also don't ask for your loss in the gambling.But remember the loss match will be in your mind always.So the gambler who loss huge money in the gambling will not repeat their mistake in the loss match.The continuity in the game was the important one in the gambling,many gambler forgot the mistake in the gambling and use to loss the money many times in the gambling sites by the same mistake should be avoided.
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December 04, 2023, 04:43:50 PM
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The worst part of it is most of these local gamblers don't even work so how do you expect them to pay you back.
Lending to gamblers is tricky but possible to run a good business from. As a matter of fact, the Lending section of this forum is financing mostly loans for gambling or trading.

But doing this locally in your neighborhood where everyone knows each others underwear colors, it would not be recommended. Either run a pawn shop or be a shark in your local, which is often the case in many under-developed countries. These lenders need to have connections with the local police, mafia and goons in order to live. Its not a safe job at all.

I hope the OP finds something else to interest them, like investing in a casino bankroll, like I suggested to many others.

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December 04, 2023, 05:22:11 PM
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The last thing I will ever do is lend money to a gambler as a way to assist them to gamble more, a gambler who have gambled until he or she lost all their money also have the potentials also lossing the money they borrowed, or was lended to them, and we all know that, if a gambler loses the money he or she borrowed to gamble, there won't be any way for him or her to pay back the money except he or she looks for an external source.

So for me, I completely disagree with the Ops idea or method of quiting gambling to invest in it rather, I will rather play the gambling myself than lend some one money to do it.

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December 04, 2023, 05:29:14 PM
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The last thing I will ever do is lend money to a gambler as a way to assist them to gamble more, a gambler who have gambled until he or she lost all their money also have the potentials also lossing the money they borrowed, or was lended to them, and we all know that, if a gambler loses the money he or she borrowed to gamble, there won't be any way for him or her to pay back the money except he or she looks for an external source.

So for me, I completely disagree with the Ops idea or method of quiting gambling to invest in it rather, I will rather play the gambling myself than lend some one money to do it.

I think no one lends money (especially to gamblers) without collateral, so if a gambler loses, then he can simply admit this fact and simply forfeit his collateral, rather than invent ways to get new funding. But I agree that although the majority of gamblers are adequate people, there are many addicted people, so engaging in this business for many people can have an immoral connotation.

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December 04, 2023, 05:41:31 PM
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I will be lending my funds to the losers who has run out of  funds and willing to bet more if they have more money.
I tends to make this a deal with interest charges with concrete agreement to be secured and I will be opened to also accepting collaterals.
For me it’s kind of unethical, lending money to an addict is totally wrong even with a collateral. It’s like you know that person is hurting himself and you are the one helping him and pushing him to do that, there’s no difference between lending a money to a gambler to lose that money and pays you back in certain way that he hurt himself first and his family around, just as lending money to an alcoholic person or drug addict.
There’s a story in our region that really happened, a person made a fortune from lending money to people that he know they can’t afford paying him back but with a collateral such as houses or cars. He always get their assets and sell them or keep them. This person still living a luxury life but I don’t know how his consciousness is in peace.

Your plan is not an investment but a crime to me! Still my point of view

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December 04, 2023, 06:09:50 PM
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The last thing I will ever do is lend money to a gambler as a way to assist them to gamble more, a gambler who have gambled until he or she lost all their money also have the potentials also lossing the money they borrowed, or was lended to them, and we all know that, if a gambler loses the money he or she borrowed to gamble, there won't be any way for him or her to pay back the money except he or she looks for an external source.

So for me, I completely disagree with the Ops idea or method of quiting gambling to invest in it rather, I will rather play the gambling myself than lend some one money to do it.

I think no one lends money (especially to gamblers) without collateral, so if a gambler loses, then he can simply admit this fact and simply forfeit his collateral, rather than invent ways to get new funding. But I agree that although the majority of gamblers are adequate people, there are many addicted people, so engaging in this business for many people can have an immoral connotation.
If one lend money to a gambler that means the lender too is also gambling because there are always a possibility that the gambler might lose or win but if the gambler win, with the joy in him or her, they might give you back the money or even add extra to it, but just imagine if the gambler lose the money you lend to him or her.
As there is no sure odds in gamble, I don't think a gambler can always.

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December 04, 2023, 06:10:47 PM
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The last thing I will ever do is lend money to a gambler as a way to assist them to gamble more, a gambler who have gambled until he or she lost all their money also have the potentials also lossing the money they borrowed, or was lended to them, and we all know that, if a gambler loses the money he or she borrowed to gamble, there won't be any way for him or her to pay back the money except he or she looks for an external source.

So for me, I completely disagree with the Ops idea or method of quiting gambling to invest in it rather, I will rather play the gambling myself than lend someone money to do it.
It's like investing in a Ponzi scheme,  how can you lend money to someone to gamble with,  that is the most irresponsible thing to do as most time gamblers lose all their money,  and that is why we have always warned against taking gambling as a means of making earns needs and also taking it as an investment because doing so will cause you more harm than good on the long run,  most times some addicts things that they have the most sure games and at that,  can boldly request for loans just to gamble with and at the end,  they will still lose the bet and money will be wasted.

So anyone that lends a gambler money to gamble,  is just risking himself and should take it as if he is gambling with that money himself.
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