Wilder Vs Parker & Joshua Vs Wallin Boxing Mega Saudi card 23rd December

[inthelongrun]

And there you have it, Wilder lost the fight in the judges scorecard, scores were 118-111, 118-110 and 120-107, all for Parker. So the supposedly fight with AJ could have been derailed already with this lost from Parker.

I think Fury already taken Wilder's soul, hehehe. Not sure why Wilder perform this bad in the biggest stage. And there were moments in fight wherein Parker made Wilder ridiculous.

I had it 120-108 but 2 of the judges scored it to Wilder when he landed some heavy shots although Parker landed his own and was still in control. I'm just surprised Parker showed the younger version of himself. He was supposed to be slow and past his prime but he was damn quick against Wilder. His stance made it difficult for Wilder to become aggressive.

AJ said he is still willing to fight Wilder. I guess it's easy money for AJ and will still fill a stadium in the UK. Hopefully, Usyk retires after beating Fury so all these contenders will fight for the belts.

Since Wilder's prospect days, I always have had doubts about him. I always see him as gifted with an iron fist but that's all. Wilder has low-level skills and there were many times he was losing rounds before landing his heavy punches saving him from defeats.

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[TopTort777]

You know what? I am actually really impressed that such kind of even was even managed. While we see how hard and long negotiations are with top boxers, but this time, in rather quick and easy manner UAE has organized an even with such stars. AJ, Wilder, Parker, Bivol, Dubois, Opetaia in single night. It is rare to see such. I dont care a lot about results (even though Wilder fight stands out from others), as whole event was great.

[Yamifoud]

You know what? I am actually really impressed that such kind of even was even managed. While we see how hard and long negotiations are with top boxers, but this time, in rather quick and easy manner UAE has organized an even with such stars. AJ, Wilder, Parker, Bivol, Dubois, Opetaia in single night. It is rare to see such. I dont care a lot about results (even though Wilder fight stands out from others), as whole event was great.

It was made possible because promoters are willing to spend a lot of money to make it happen. We have lots of rich people in that country, just like when they hosted the Fury vs Ngannou fight, both made a decent paycheck. There are even rumors before that they are willing to pay big money just to make a Pacman vs Marquez after Marquez KO Pacman cold but Marquez decline a huge offer, so we can say that there's a lot of money there.

[babygun]

And there you have it, Wilder lost the fight in the judges scorecard, scores were 118-111, 118-110 and 120-107, all for Parker. So the supposedly fight with AJ could have been derailed already with this lost from Parker.

I think Fury already taken Wilder's soul, hehehe. Not sure why Wilder perform this bad in the biggest stage. And there were moments in fight wherein Parker made Wilder ridiculous.

I had it 120-108 but 2 of the judges scored it to Wilder when he landed some heavy shots although Parker landed his own and was still in control. I'm just surprised Parker showed the younger version of himself. He was supposed to be slow and past his prime but he was damn quick against Wilder. His stance made it difficult for Wilder to become aggressive.

AJ said he is still willing to fight Wilder. I guess it's easy money for AJ and will still fill a stadium in the UK. Hopefully, Usyk retires after beating Fury so all these contenders will fight for the belts.

Since Wilder's prospect days, I always have had doubts about him. I always see him as gifted with an iron fist but that's all. Wilder has low-level skills and there were many times he was losing rounds before landing his heavy punches saving him from defeats.

Was not able to see the fights but based on the reports, Wilder was just too bad and Parker deserved the win, still a shame as I think that the fight between Joshua and Wilder will not be for any time soon. A great boxer can deliver a knockout punch but can also receive one and Fury is the best example for that.

[TopTort777]

You know what? I am actually really impressed that such kind of even was even managed. While we see how hard and long negotiations are with top boxers, but this time, in rather quick and easy manner UAE has organized an even with such stars. AJ, Wilder, Parker, Bivol, Dubois, Opetaia in single night. It is rare to see such. I dont care a lot about results (even though Wilder fight stands out from others), as whole event was great.

It was made possible because promoters are willing to spend a lot of money to make it happen. We have lots of rich people in that country, just like when they hosted the Fury vs Ngannou fight, both made a decent paycheck. There are even rumors before that they are willing to pay big money just to make a Pacman vs Marquez after Marquez KO Pacman cold but Marquez decline a huge offer, so we can say that there's a lot of money there.

Money not always open all the doors and help to make decisions. Even though UAE have lots of rich people, there are still limits of how much they are ready to spend. Take Fury vs Usyk for example. How long does it took those two to finally sign a contract? All those negotiations. A think more than a year have passed. And whole this event was organized in 2-3 months only. I am sure they did not just threw billion-zillion-trillion into boxers to make this event to happen.

[Yamifoud]

You know what? I am actually really impressed that such kind of even was even managed. While we see how hard and long negotiations are with top boxers, but this time, in rather quick and easy manner UAE has organized an even with such stars. AJ, Wilder, Parker, Bivol, Dubois, Opetaia in single night. It is rare to see such. I dont care a lot about results (even though Wilder fight stands out from others), as whole event was great.

It was made possible because promoters are willing to spend a lot of money to make it happen. We have lots of rich people in that country, just like when they hosted the Fury vs Ngannou fight, both made a decent paycheck. There are even rumors before that they are willing to pay big money just to make a Pacman vs Marquez after Marquez KO Pacman cold but Marquez decline a huge offer, so we can say that there's a lot of money there.

Money not always open all the doors and help to make decisions. Even though UAE have lots of rich people, there are still limits of how much they are ready to spend. Take Fury vs Usyk for example. How long does it took those two to finally sign a contract? All those negotiations. A think more than a year have passed. And whole this event was organized in 2-3 months only. I am sure they did not just threw billion-zillion-trillion into boxers to make this event to happen.

Regardless on how and how long they go with the negotiations, what's important is that the fight is already happening. UAE has been competiting with the biggest venue fo boxing in the US, so with this, it gives more opportunity for the boxers who have better record and are exciting to fight because their market are getting bigger.

Follow the trend and we shall see what's happening, IMO, this is just a start, more and more big fights will be held in this country in the future.

[yazher]

Was not able to see the fights but based on the reports, Wilder was just too bad and Parker deserved the win, still a shame as I think that the fight between Joshua and Wilder will not be for any time soon. A great boxer can deliver a knockout punch but can also receive one and Fury is the best example for that.

Most likely he underestimated his opponent and didn't really take it seriously. I think they only want the payment and it was really a surprising event because we never see such fights in one night, especially with these kinds of boxers, especially the heavyweights. they are given huge paychecks and no one could really decline such an offer because mostly they are after the money when they want to fight someone. No one really loss in their fight because they received their payment well and those who won had another chance to get to fight for that country again.

[Distinctin]

Was not able to see the fights but based on the reports, Wilder was just too bad and Parker deserved the win, still a shame as I think that the fight between Joshua and Wilder will not be for any time soon. A great boxer can deliver a knockout punch but can also receive one and Fury is the best example for that.

Most likely he underestimated his opponent and didn't really take it seriously. I think they only want the payment and it was really a surprising event because we never see such fights in one night, especially with these kinds of boxers, especially the heavyweights. they are given huge paychecks and no one could really decline such an offer because mostly they are after the money when they want to fight someone. No one really loss in their fight because they received their payment well and those who won had another chance to get to fight for that country again.

Anyone can speculate that a heavy favorite fighter losing is due to him underestimating his opponnet, but that's not the real case here. Wilder is already scheduled for a bigger fight after that fight and he will be up against AJ, so that fight has a lot at stake for him, its his future in boxing. Now, he's back to the beginning as he won't be able to fight AJ anymore since he lose, and it's not even a close one since he lose via Unanimous decision.

And this was his statement relating to the loss.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-deontay-wilder-clears-air-rumored-retirement-statement-shocking-saudi-arabia-loss-joseph-parker

We came out short tonight. You know what, I don’t know what happened to be honest. My timing was off and I didn’t throw my punches, I didn’t let my hands go like I was supposed to. Sometimes you get like that. But you live to see another fight. You live to see another moment.”

[Dave1]

You know what? I am actually really impressed that such kind of even was even managed. While we see how hard and long negotiations are with top boxers, but this time, in rather quick and easy manner UAE has organized an even with such stars. AJ, Wilder, Parker, Bivol, Dubois, Opetaia in single night. It is rare to see such. I dont care a lot about results (even though Wilder fight stands out from others), as whole event was great.

It was made possible because promoters are willing to spend a lot of money to make it happen. We have lots of rich people in that country, just like when they hosted the Fury vs Ngannou fight, both made a decent paycheck. There are even rumors before that they are willing to pay big money just to make a Pacman vs Marquez after Marquez KO Pacman cold but Marquez decline a huge offer, so we can say that there's a lot of money there.

Of course, there will be enough money for everyone, but it's the question, as a boxing fan are you willing to watch the fight though?

It's not comparable to Manny vs JMM, they have history together and it's a back and forth war, they go at it during their primes. Not like this one, in which they have a chance to fight early when they haven't lost but refuses because they want to create more hype in their names.

But now it's a different story, might be good it Wilder will go on another cherry pick up if he wanted to continue with his career.

[Yaunfitda]

Was not able to see the fights but based on the reports, Wilder was just too bad and Parker deserved the win, still a shame as I think that the fight between Joshua and Wilder will not be for any time soon. A great boxer can deliver a knockout punch but can also receive one and Fury is the best example for that.

Most likely he underestimated his opponent and didn't really take it seriously. I think they only want the payment and it was really a surprising event because we never see such fights in one night, especially with these kinds of boxers, especially the heavyweights. they are given huge paychecks and no one could really decline such an offer because mostly they are after the money when they want to fight someone. No one really loss in their fight because they received their payment well and those who won had another chance to get to fight for that country again.

Anyone can speculate that a heavy favorite fighter losing is due to him underestimating his opponnet, but that's not the real case here. Wilder is already scheduled for a bigger fight after that fight and he will be up against AJ, so that fight has a lot at stake for him, its his future in boxing. Now, he's back to the beginning as he won't be able to fight AJ anymore since he lose, and it's not even a close one since he lose via Unanimous decision.

And this was his statement relating to the loss.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-deontay-wilder-clears-air-rumored-retirement-statement-shocking-saudi-arabia-loss-joseph-parker

We came out short tonight. You know what, I don’t know what happened to be honest. My timing was off and I didn’t throw my punches, I didn’t let my hands go like I was supposed to. Sometimes you get like that. But you live to see another fight. You live to see another moment.”

It could be sign that he underestimate his opponents, or didn't try hard, or he train by overtrains.

So for me it could be the case of all this 3, he thought that Parker is going to be easy for him and so he might not train that hard. Or maybe he had train for many weeks already leading to this fight and that's why during fight night, he can't pull the trigger anymore.

It's good to hear that he sounded positive still despite the lost.

But definitely the big fight with AJ is off for now, and you can also hear AJ's voice during the post fight interview that it seems the Wilder let him down with their supposedly mega fight next year in February.

[hilariousetc]

Wilder looked awful, which is no surprise because he's always been an awful fighter, but this time his devastating power was nowhere to be found. Joseph Parker managed the fight perfectly. He avoided Wilder's punches, which were few and far between, and was smart about picking the right moments to attack. Wilder isn't as fearsome as he once was. Without the capability to adjust his style, that one-shot knockout power isn't going to be enough to bail him out anymore.

The main event didn't last very long. Joshua broke Wallin down forcing the corner to stop the fight after 5 rounds. AJ looked better than he has in several years. Even with Wilder losing, the heavyweight division is in a really great spot. Any combination of fights involving Parker, Joshua, Usyk and Fury would all be very intriguing. Dubois, Ngannou and a few others are also there waiting for an opportunity to prove that they belong among these top heavyweights.

Wilder is a one trick pony and like I said before if he doesn't knock Parker out he could and did get outboxed. You can see Wilder's right hand coming a mile off so all you've gotta do is not let him set it up. Easier said than done but Parker managed to avoid taking any huge punches and it looks like Fury gave him some helpful tips to defeat him. Wilder didn't seem hungry to me. I don't know whether his heart's not in it or that ayahuasca has made him a hippy or something but he didn't complain much after the fight just admitted he was 'off'. I hope we see him in a couple more fights. Him Vs Ngannou would be the best for both of them I think. It would probably just be a slug-fest.

You know what? I am actually really impressed that such kind of even was even managed. While we see how hard and long negotiations are with top boxers, but this time, in rather quick and easy manner UAE has organized an even with such stars. AJ, Wilder, Parker, Bivol, Dubois, Opetaia in single night. It is rare to see such. I dont care a lot about results (even though Wilder fight stands out from others), as whole event was great.

Well, it's kinda impressive given on paper it was probably the most stacked card ever, but if Saudi rang you up and offered you 10-50 million to fight but I'm sure you'd jump at the chance as did all those fighters .

[bbc.reporter]

I only watched the replay for these fights and it appears that the Bronze Bomber has run out of luck hehehe. What Teddy Atlas calls the eraser is already very known and his opponents already knows how to defend against this. I hope in his age he can improve and really learn how box. Francis Ngannou would have put him on a stretcher if he fought Wilder.

[Inwestour]

You know what? I am actually really impressed that such kind of even was even managed. While we see how hard and long negotiations are with top boxers, but this time, in rather quick and easy manner UAE has organized an even with such stars. AJ, Wilder, Parker, Bivol, Dubois, Opetaia in single night. It is rare to see such. I dont care a lot about results (even though Wilder fight stands out from others), as whole event was great.

Big money can do a lot.

Wilder was similar to the fighter who put on the show with Fury, except that the fighters periodically fell to the floor. Perhaps Parker has shown that Wilder is no longer the dangerous fighter we once knew.

[PokerBetting]

The big fight that was missed was between welder vs anthony joshua, when both held the championship belt it was very difficult to meet. when now both are not world champions the promoter plans to bring the two together i think it has passed its momentum. the enthusiasm of the audience must have decreased. and can't make a lot of money.
But if the match is still very interesting same former world heavyweight champion

[inthelongrun]

So AJ who hinted an interest in fighting Wilder after his fight with Wallin. AJ might get it since Wilder after that humbling defeat to Parker started to talk once again. Wilder still wanted the AJ fight a go and was even saying that AJ might use the Parker victory as an excuse and pick another opponent.

Without a big Saudi offer, it won't be surprising if AJ offers Wilder a fight in the UK. It's still big and it's easy money if AJ stays disciplined the whole fight. But AJ being the most popular heavyweight right now could choose easier fights rather than the dangerous Hrgovic, Parker, and Usyk-Fury winner. Another good option is Ngannou and the 40-year-old WBO interim champ, Zhang Zhilei.

[coin-investor]

So AJ who hinted an interest in fighting Wilder after his fight with Wallin. AJ might get it since Wilder after that humbling defeat to Parker started to talk once again. Wilder still wanted the AJ fight a go and was even saying that AJ might use the Parker victory as an excuse and pick another opponent.

Without a big Saudi offer, it won't be surprising if AJ offers Wilder a fight in the UK. It's still big and it's easy money if AJ stays disciplined the whole fight. But AJ being the most popular heavyweight right now could choose easier fights rather than the dangerous Hrgovic, Parker, and Usyk-Fury winner. Another good option is Ngannou and the 40-year-old WBO interim champ, Zhang Zhilei.

Maybe that is the reason why they made this news come out

Deontay Wilder has claimed he had problems heading into his fight with Joseph Parker - after spending too long in a cryotherapy chamber.
It now seems that Wilder may have been injured going into the fight as Queensbury Promotions boss Frank Warren said to talkSPORT: “I was talking to Wilder’s manager Shelly Finkel, he was telling me that he had a problem. I thought he looked pretty dreadful. He went into one of those cryotherapy chambers and sat in it for quite a long time. I don’t know, Obviously, there’s going to be some excuse.”

Deontay Wilder makes unlikely excuse for performance against Joseph Parker

They make it appear that the cryotherapy chambers have something to do with it, and not really because Parker is good or Wilder is losing his touch, both fighters still want to go on with the fight, AJ wants it because he is in a comeback momentum while Wilder is still having a second thought if he wants to continue we'll know this in the coming months Wilder might turn around with the deal or he might continue but he is risking his legacy, 3 losses in 4 fights is not good usually if you lose you will cherry-picked a fight to get back your momentum, but AJ is not a cherry-picked fight.

[Baofeng]

^^ Oh yes, I remember also reading this article as a excuses on Wilder side. And then he said that it's AJ that is more happy seeing him lost against Parker. I mean it just shows the mentality of Wilder though. And why would Joshua be happy when they agreed in principle that they will fight next and makes a lot of money?

He said that along the line that AJ is not going to face him next that's why he is now happy if Parker will be his next opponent and not him.

It just shows that Wilder is still bitter that Joshua win against Wallin. And that he is going back fighting the likes of a B-side Heavyweight boxer just to get his name into the discussion again.

[Distinctin]

So AJ who hinted an interest in fighting Wilder after his fight with Wallin. AJ might get it since Wilder after that humbling defeat to Parker started to talk once again. Wilder still wanted the AJ fight a go and was even saying that AJ might use the Parker victory as an excuse and pick another opponent.

I don't understand  anymore what Wilder is thinking. I mean, if AJ would not choose to fight him, there's nothing he can do with that as he messed up his chance to fight with AJ by losing in a unanimous decision, the fight even has a named which is the biggest upset this year for a big fight.

AJ vs Wilder is not anymore fun to look even on paper, the performance of Wilder showed he is declining as a boxer, so might as well start again from the very start or hang the gloves to avoid more losses coming.

[bbc.reporter]

So AJ who hinted an interest in fighting Wilder after his fight with Wallin. AJ might get it since Wilder after that humbling defeat to Parker started to talk once again. Wilder still wanted the AJ fight a go and was even saying that AJ might use the Parker victory as an excuse and pick another opponent.

Without a big Saudi offer, it won't be surprising if AJ offers Wilder a fight in the UK. It's still big and it's easy money if AJ stays disciplined the whole fight. But AJ being the most popular heavyweight right now could choose easier fights rather than the dangerous Hrgovic, Parker, and Usyk-Fury winner. Another good option is Ngannou and the 40-year-old WBO interim champ, Zhang Zhilei.

However, what would the fans like to pay for to watch and wintess with Joshua? We can be quite certain that it will not be Joshua vs. Wilder anymore after Wilder's loss against Parker. Also, if Joshua wants to keep earning a bigger purse and a possbility to challenge for the heavyweight championship again, I reckon he should certainly fight Zhang Zhilei. But only for money, I agree on Francis Ngannou. He is the best option.

[Fundamentals Of]

I don't understand  anymore what Wilder is thinking. I mean, if AJ would not choose to fight him, there's nothing he can do with that as he messed up his chance to fight with AJ by losing in a unanimous decision, the fight even has a named which is the biggest upset this year for a big fight.

AJ vs Wilder is not anymore fun to look even on paper, the performance of Wilder showed he is declining as a boxer, so might as well start again from the very start or hang the gloves to avoid more losses coming.

It is actually fun. It may not be fun on paper because of Wilder's recent loss to Parker, but since the two hasn't met yet, it must be a fight to watch. Not to mention that Joshua is not actually several steps higher than Wilder. To a certain extent, we can say that both are spent fighters.

And it seems the fight is wanted by both of them. Wilder is interested. Of course, why not, right? He is still trying to be relevant. It would be a good fight for a loser like him. But Joshua on the other hand is also interested. That would still mean big money for him and probably an easy one as far as he thinks. Wilder is approaching 40. He's old. He's well exposed. And if he's defeated by a boxer that Joshua already defeated, then he should be an easier opponent. Why would he be looking for riskier matches against more dangerous opponents?