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December 20, 2023, 02:16:49 AM
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So far Parker 5:1 underdog against Wilder. Otto Wallin, almost 4:1 underdog. So that speaks that this is just a confidence boosting match.

With those odds, it seems like an easy fight for Wilder. The thing is, when Wilder struggles against his opponents, he tends to lose, and that has only happened against Fury. So, against Parker, I believe it could be an easy KO for Wilder. Despite being defeated by Fury, Wilder is making a comeback, and if he continues to improve his ranking, there's a good chance he'll make a strong return.

Looking ahead to Fury vs. Usyk, if Fury wins, both AJ and Wilder might be forced to fight the champion for another shot. If that happens, fans might not be as excited, given Wilder's previous losses to Fury. However, against AJ, it could be different as we haven't seen him fight Fury. Yet, according to the books, AJ appears to be an easy target for Fury. These are just possibilities for the future, so for more exciting bouts in the heavyweight division, let's hope Usyk can beat Fury, as things could become uncertain against AJ or Wilder.

The fans will certainly  also want Deontay Wilder vs. Anthony Joshua if they win on their own fights against Parker and Wallin hehehe. Make the winner of this challenge the champion. This will also hype their names and it will make them more deserving to challenge for the heavyweight championship.

Also, if Fury wins against Usyk, it would be boring to see another Fury vs. Wilder fight. A Fury vs. Joshua fight might also not be very exciting for the fans because Joshua lost to Usyk twice already.

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December 20, 2023, 04:06:48 AM
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So far Parker 5:1 underdog against Wilder. Otto Wallin, almost 4:1 underdog. So that speaks that this is just a confidence boosting match.

With those odds, it seems like an easy fight for Wilder. The thing is, when Wilder struggles against his opponents, he tends to lose, and that has only happened against Fury. So, against Parker, I believe it could be an easy KO for Wilder. Despite being defeated by Fury, Wilder is making a comeback, and if he continues to improve his ranking, there's a good chance he'll make a strong return.

Looking ahead to Fury vs. Usyk, if Fury wins, both AJ and Wilder might be forced to fight the champion for another shot. If that happens, fans might not be as excited, given Wilder's previous losses to Fury. However, against AJ, it could be different as we haven't seen him fight Fury. Yet, according to the books, AJ appears to be an easy target for Fury. These are just possibilities for the future, so for more exciting bouts in the heavyweight division, let's hope Usyk can beat Fury, as things could become uncertain against AJ or Wilder.

The fans will certainly  also want Deontay Wilder vs. Anthony Joshua if they win on their own fights against Parker and Wallin hehehe. Make the winner of this challenge the champion. This will also hype their names and it will make them more deserving to challenge for the heavyweight championship.

Also, if Fury wins against Usyk, it would be boring to see another Fury vs. Wilder fight. A Fury vs. Joshua fight might also not be very exciting for the fans because Joshua lost to Usyk twice already.

Wilder vs. Joshua would be a good match if both wins in their respective fights in Saudi, but it seems it's only good because of their names. Personally, I don't see anything in Joshua that would be a serious threat against Wilder. In fact, I'd rather see the old man Zhang face Wilder next. We will see whose power prevails. That would be a lot more interesting than a Wilder-Joshua match.

The heavyweight division would be boring if limited to these fighters. They're already crossing paths. I wonder if it becomes more exciting if upsets happen. And then there are other top ones like Sanchez or Hrgovic or even Ruiz to create fresh match ups.
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December 20, 2023, 10:02:17 AM
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The fans will certainly  also want Deontay Wilder vs. Anthony Joshua if they win on their own fights against Parker and Wallin hehehe. Make the winner of this challenge the champion. This will also hype their names and it will make them more deserving to challenge for the heavyweight championship.

Wilder vs AJ and Wallin vs Parker would be more balanced fights, as we gonna see two boxers obviously beaten in few days. Would be more cool if this were a tournament, and the winners of AJ vs Wallin and Wilder vs Parker fight among each other. To bad that can only happen in K1 or MMA. Real challenge would be between Dubois and Miller. This is the fight where it is hard to tell who would be a winner.

Also, if Fury wins against Usyk, it would be boring to see another Fury vs. Wilder fight. A Fury vs. Joshua fight might also not be very exciting for the fans because Joshua lost to Usyk twice already.

We have Zhilei Zhang, he wasnt involved yet in those Game of Thrones between Wilder-Usyk-Fury-AJ. He might be an interesting opponent.

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December 20, 2023, 12:58:24 PM
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The fans will certainly  also want Deontay Wilder vs. Anthony Joshua if they win on their own fights against Parker and Wallin hehehe. Make the winner of this challenge the champion. This will also hype their names and it will make them more deserving to challenge for the heavyweight championship.

Wilder vs AJ and Wallin vs Parker would be more balanced fights, as we gonna see two boxers obviously beaten in few days. Would be more cool if this were a tournament, and the winners of AJ vs Wallin and Wilder vs Parker fight among each other. To bad that can only happen in K1 or MMA. Real challenge would be between Dubois and Miller. This is the fight where it is hard to tell who would be a winner.

Also, if Fury wins against Usyk, it would be boring to see another Fury vs. Wilder fight. A Fury vs. Joshua fight might also not be very exciting for the fans because Joshua lost to Usyk twice already.

We have Zhilei Zhang, he wasnt involved yet in those Game of Thrones between Wilder-Usyk-Fury-AJ. He might be an interesting opponent.

It looks like the AJ/Wilder fight is already signed, but I'm not so sure AJ will make it past Wallin easy and I don't have that much confidence in him. He struggles against southpaws and Otto has only lost to Tyson Fury and he was lucky that fight wasn't stopped for the nasty cut. I think the money is on an upset personally. If Wilder doesn't KO Parker then I could see him losing on points. I would love to Zhang against Fury or Usyk but I think most boxers will avoid him like the plague.

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December 21, 2023, 02:39:42 AM
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@hilariousetc. Have Joshua and Wilder also agreed that their fight will again be in Saudi Arabia?

The skeptical me thinks that if Joshua and Wilder have already signed a contract and it is agreed to also be in Saudi Arabia then there might be some people that will make it quite certain that they will win their fights spectacularly with knockouts heheehehee.

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December 21, 2023, 04:40:39 AM
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@hilariousetc. Have Joshua and Wilder also agreed that their fight will again be in Saudi Arabia?

The skeptical me thinks that if Joshua and Wilder have already signed a contract and it is agreed to also be in Saudi Arabia then there might be some people that will make it quite certain that they will win their fights spectacularly with knockouts heheehehee.

If I'm not mistaken, they could have agreed already in principle to have the fight in Saudi Arabia. We even have news that it could happen this December, if not for Fury needed more time to heal before of the beating he got from Usyk.

Because the initial plan was December with:

Fury vs Usyk
Joshua vs Wilder

So now the December fight for Joshua and Wilder is just a get busy fight and hopefully there will be no derailing this February.

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December 21, 2023, 06:50:33 AM
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@hilariousetc. Have Joshua and Wilder also agreed that their fight will again be in Saudi Arabia?

The skeptical me thinks that if Joshua and Wilder have already signed a contract and it is agreed to also be in Saudi Arabia then there might be some people that will make it quite certain that they will win their fights spectacularly with knockouts heheehehee.

Promoters have let that fight marinate for far too long. They don't have much of a choice but to fight each other if they want to remain relevant. If they drag it out further then either one of them could lose again and the interest in that matchup would be completely gone. If they are both fighting on the same card as main and co-main event then it is logical to conclude that there is an understanding for them to fight each other next. When there is so much money at stake for Matchroom and the sanctioning organizations it wouldn't be surprising if there was an early stoppage or a a controversial decision to ensure their desired outcome.

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December 21, 2023, 04:17:14 PM
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The press conference is just getting started guys -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK24-TGnky8

It’ll be interesting to see how Joshua & Wilder conduct themselves. They have both already hinted towards a potential fight in the future, if they both win on Saturday.

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The press conference is just getting started guys -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK24-TGnky8

It’ll be interesting to see how Joshua & Wilder conduct themselves. They have both already hinted towards a potential fight in the future, if they both win on Saturday.

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All the matchups are worth watching this is indeed a mega-fight no championship belts are on the line for the Heavyweight but this is a crucial fights for every participant in mega-fights one interesting matchup that caught my attention is the Dubois - Miller matchup, the faceoff is very intense and the roasting is very funny I'm sure this too will go at it I have this feeling that this is the most exciting match that will produce a lot of action because both fighters are almost equal in their style and power.

I'm also hoping Wilder and Joshua win so they can finally meet after years of unfruitful negotiation.

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December 22, 2023, 06:54:22 PM
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They had the weigh-ins earlier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MeitvOM5PQ

@hilariousetc. Have Joshua and Wilder also agreed that their fight will again be in Saudi Arabia?

The skeptical me thinks that if Joshua and Wilder have already signed a contract and it is agreed to also be in Saudi Arabia then there might be some people that will make it quite certain that they will win their fights spectacularly with knockouts heheehehee.

Not publicly announced but it's looking like it's a done deal. Eddie Hearn yesterday said an announcement will likely be made after the card, but it's probably a similar situation to the Usyk/Fury fight where Fury's performance lead to the delay as that was the fight that was meant to be tomorrow instead of this one. If AJ and Wilder win comfortably or without much damage then I'm sure the fight will be announced in the ring tomorrow but if one of them loses then it's gonna throw a spanner in the works.

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December 23, 2023, 10:30:27 PM
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Here is the update on these big events

Dmitry Bivol def. Lyndon Arthur via unanimous decision (120-107 x3)

Daniel Dubois def. Jarrell Miller via 10th-round TKO (2:52)

Agit Kabayel def. Arslanbek Makhmudov via fourth-round TKO (2:03)

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Filip Hrgovic def. Mark De Mori via first-round TKO (1:46)

Frank Sanchez def. Junior Fa via seventh-round TKO (2:42)

The Wilder-Parker is now undergoing, and the fight lacks action as both fighters are keeping each other at bay Wilder is trying to look for an opening to blast the power of his right but Parker does not want to give him a chance, Parker is leading in an unofficial scorecard.

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This is a big shocker Wilder just lost to Joseph Parker by a unanimous decision Parker dominated Wilder from start to finish he could not land his big right he was stationary while Parker was moving and had good timing with his jabs and right, it must be because of a very long lay off and not facing a high caliber fighter like Parker, Joseph attributed his winnings to Fury's advice and training with him, it looks like we are not going to see the Wilder -Joshua match, after this upset.
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December 23, 2023, 11:27:09 PM
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And there you have it, Wilder lost the fight in the judges scorecard, scores were 118-111, 118-110 and 120-107, all for Parker. So the supposedly fight with AJ could have been derailed already with this lost from Parker.

I think Fury already taken Wilder's soul, hehehe. Not sure why Wilder perform this bad in the biggest stage. And there were moments in fight wherein Parker made Wilder ridiculous.


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December 23, 2023, 11:33:15 PM
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This is a big shocker Wilder just lost to Joseph Parker by a unanimous decision Parker dominated Wilder from start to finish he could not land his big right he was stationary while Parker was moving and had good timing with his jabs and right, it must be because of a very long lay off and not facing a high caliber fighter like Parker, Joseph attributed his winnings to Fury's advice and training with him, it looks like we are not going to see the Wilder -Joshua match, after this upset.

Most like yes, we will not see the fight between AJ and Wilder anymore as he lost this fight. What's the record if Wilder in the last 4 fights? 1-3? I think he is done with this lost. Of course he can still make a comeback and make some money along the way. But I guess he is no longer in his prime, we can say that it's because of the long layoff, but with the way Parker dominated him? Nah, I don't think so.

Judges even didn't give him a round to win in this fight. So AJ might have been pissed off because he won't be able to fight Wilder.

They should have face way before, like 2018 when both are two of the hottest HW. But now, it's going to be too late as fans might not be interested anymore.

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I haven't seen the full fight, I just saw when it was announced that Parker is the winner. And what makes the result very interesting is how the judges see it. I have to watch and see if Parker schooled Wilder from round one.

Maybe the Bronze Bomber rely on his power but Parker knows that and so he keeps on moving from that right hand of Wilder. So it is that Wilder is already out and that we have seen him having sort of mental problems after the Fury lost.

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December 24, 2023, 12:23:07 AM
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Here is the recap of this big event

Anthony Joshua def. Otto Wallin via fifth-round KO

Joseph Parker def. Deontay Wilder via unanimous decision

Dmitry Bivol def. Lyndon Arthur via unanimous decision (120-107 x3)

Daniel Dubois def. Jarrell Miller via 10th-round TKO (2:52)

Agit Kabayel def. Arslanbek Makhmudov via fourth-round TKO (2:03)

Jai Opetaia def. Ellis Zorro via first-round KO (2:56) |

Filip Hrgovic def. Mark De Mori via first-round TKO (1:46)

Frank Sanchez def. Junior Fa via seventh-round TKO (2:42)

Unfortunately, Wilder could not deliver, he was looking to land that huge right but unfortunately, Parker's defense did not allow him, Joshua - Wilder is now hanging in the balance because of this, maybe a Fury - Joshua is more realistic if Fury beats Usyk in their coming fight I wonder where will Wilder after this fight he will have a hard time climbing into the top rank because of this huge upset.

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Wilder looked awful, which is no surprise because he's always been an awful fighter, but this time his devastating power was nowhere to be found. Joseph Parker managed the fight perfectly. He avoided Wilder's punches, which were few and far between, and was smart about picking the right moments to attack. Wilder isn't as fearsome as he once was. Without the capability to adjust his style, that one-shot knockout power isn't going to be enough to bail him out anymore.

The main event didn't last very long. Joshua broke Wallin down forcing the corner to stop the fight after 5 rounds. AJ looked better than he has in several years. Even with Wilder losing, the heavyweight division is in a really great spot. Any combination of fights involving Parker, Joshua, Usyk and Fury would all be very intriguing. Dubois, Ngannou and a few others are also there waiting for an opportunity to prove that they belong among these top heavyweights.

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Here is the recap of this big event

Anthony Joshua def. Otto Wallin via fifth-round KO
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Unfortunately, Wilder could not deliver, he was looking to land that huge right but unfortunately, Parker's defense did not allow him, Joshua - Wilder is now hanging in the balance because of this, maybe a Fury - Joshua is more realistic if Fury beats Usyk in their coming fight I wonder where will Wilder after this fight he will have a hard time climbing into the top rank because of this huge upset.

With that KO win of Joshua we could now expect a fight between him and Fury if the latter will dispose of Usyk. Though Wallin is not a tough opponent but that KO win has somehow give Joshua some confidence that was not in him for a long time since that defeat from the hands of Andy  Ruiz.

What could be next for Wilder. is it time to hang the gloves for good? That fight was for him to win but upset happened.

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Here is the recap of this big event

Anthony Joshua def. Otto Wallin via fifth-round KO
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Unfortunately, Wilder could not deliver, he was looking to land that huge right but unfortunately, Parker's defense did not allow him, Joshua - Wilder is now hanging in the balance because of this, maybe a Fury - Joshua is more realistic if Fury beats Usyk in their coming fight I wonder where will Wilder after this fight he will have a hard time climbing into the top rank because of this huge upset.

With that KO win of Joshua we could now expect a fight between him and Fury if the latter will dispose of Usyk. Though Wallin is not a tough opponent but that KO win has somehow give Joshua some confidence that was not in him for a long time since that defeat from the hands of Andy  Ruiz.

What could be next for Wilder. is it time to hang the gloves for good? That fight was for him to win but upset happened.

Parker mentioned and even thanked Fury for the advice he gave on how to beat Wilder and it worked, throughout Wilder's title defenses he's beaten fighters who cannot be considered top level, and when he faced top level fighters this is what's going to happen.
Wilder has been exposed and will continue to be exposed as a one-dimensional fighter who just waits and relies on his power, Parker has a game plan and the game plan is very similar to what Fury implemented do not fall into Wilder's range and use a lot of jabs and reach in punches and gas him out until he cannot keep up because Wilder is not used to fighting long distance.

In his interview, he mentioned he will move and go on to the next thing, this is already a hint that he will continue fighting but if he cannot have a performance like this against top-level fighters, he has become so easy to figure out.

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December 24, 2023, 06:23:32 AM
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What could be next for Wilder. is it time to hang the gloves for good? That fight was for him to win but upset happened.

Well what can you expect from a guy who just fought one round with two years off, his timing was off, and he cannot set up his right shot properly because of a lack of jabs, all Parker has done is frustrate him throughout the fight Parker dominated him all rounds what's funny is after Buffer reads the score card Wilder was seen raising his hand as if he thought that he won the fight, nobody will agree that he won this fight, its a total domination and Parker is not even considered a high ranked boxer, I prefer to see a Fury - Joshua fight than a Wilder - Joshua, his time is almost over.

Here's a highlight of that fight

JOSEPH PARKER VS DIONTAY WILDER/ FULLFIGHT HIGHLIGHTS/DECEMBER 23,2023

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