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November 16, 2023, 04:14:29 AM
Merited by DdmrDdmr (4)
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Good day every one, I had some issues on my trust wallet. I was sent about $6 in my bitcoin address and I have been trying to send to another bitcoin address and it has been showing me this error message"Unable to transfer due to dust utxo error" what should I do please?

I have reduced the price from 5 to 4 to 3 and Even $2 but still the same message.
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November 16, 2023, 04:40:05 AM
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You’re getting the dust error because the amount in total is smaller when compared to the transaction fee. With the $6 worth of bitcoin you’re about to send which I think is the total combine amount from all UTXOs on that wallet and with a fee rate estimated to around 250 sats/vB (13.01) by mempool.space you can’t spend from that wallet.

One of the reason is because Trustwallet doesn’t customize fees so if you try to broadcast that transaction you will be charged to spend $13 on fees which is way higher than the total amount in that wallet. So there is nothing that can be done about except you deposit a significant amount to that wallet so you can spend from there or the transaction fee reduces to like $2

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November 16, 2023, 04:54:42 AM
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You want to transfer only $6 BTC but you have to pay more than the amount you want to transfer as transfer fee. The transfer fee is now extra so you don't need to transfer this small amount of BTC right now. If you want to receive six dollars in your account then you need to have 20 dollars of BTC in your account. When you have $20 worth of BTC in your wallet, you can transfer BTC and receive $6. I don't think there is any need to pay $12 transaction fee to transfer $6. It would be a good advice for you to first wait for the normal transaction fees and transfer your BTCs when the transaction fees are normal.

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November 16, 2023, 05:02:44 AM
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I have reduced the price from 5 to 4 to 3 and Even $2 but still the same message.
$6 worth of bitcoins is more or less 0.00016020BTC.
The dust limit is 0.00000546BTC for legacy or 0.00000294BTC for SegWit if it's following the Bitcoin standards (Trustwallet's limit isn't disclosed)
So if you deduct the fee that's set by your wallet, it will fall way below the dust limit.

what should I do please?
Wait for the Ordinals NFT hype to pass until you can spend with 1~5sat/vB fee rate; use another wallet to do so.

Also, have your received that $6 in one transaction?
Because if not, you'll have to spend more on fees than the actual amount that you can send.

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November 16, 2023, 06:03:17 AM
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I have reduced the price from 5 to 4 to 3 and Even $2 but still the same message.
$6 worth of bitcoins is more or less 0.00016020BTC.
The dust limit is 0.00000546BTC for legacy or 0.00000294BTC for SegWit if it's following the Bitcoin standards (Trustwallet's limit isn't disclosed)
So if you deduct the fee that's set by your wallet, it will fall way below the dust limit.
How do I know the the fee set by my wallet?

what should I do please?
Wait for the Ordinals NFT hype to pass until you can spend with 1~5sat/vB fee rate; use another wallet to do so.

Also, have your received that $6 in one transaction?

Because if not, you'll have to spend more on fees than the actual amount that you can send.
I have the $6 in my wallet and haven't made any transaction before in that wallet just a newly created wallet
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November 16, 2023, 06:41:30 AM
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How do I know the the fee set by my wallet?
What wallet you are using to make your Bitcoin transaction?

If you don't say the name of that wallet, it's hard help you specifically.

When you broadcast your transaction, you will see information of it, includes transaction fee, fee rate. Even after that you click on your transaction, details to see information like fee rate.

In some wallets, you will have options when bump your fee, with two options: Preserve payment (don't deduct transaction fee to the transaction value); Decrease payment (deduct transaction fee to transaction value) like Electrum wallet.

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November 16, 2023, 07:00:29 AM
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How do I know the the fee set by my wallet?
What wallet you are using to make your Bitcoin transaction?

If you don't say the name of that wallet, it's hard help you specifically.
I think I have stated it already in my topic that it's trust wallet
But what I don't know is whether this high charges on bitcoin in trust wallet is applicable to bitcoin in Binance or other exchanges. Judging from people's explanation here, I think in trust wallet one must have up to $20 sats above before transacting, because it is needless to do a transaction that will incure changes that is higher than the amount you want to transfer.
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November 16, 2023, 07:28:26 AM
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I think I have stated it already in my topic that it's trust wallet
Sorry I missed it.

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But what I don't know is whether this high charges on bitcoin in trust wallet is applicable to bitcoin in Binance or other exchanges.
I can not get your question, applicable to bitcoin in Binance or other exchanges, what does it mean?

Trust wallet was acquired by Binance years ago, in 2018.

Wallets can use good or bad fee estimators and they can give you good fee suggestion or bad (overpaid) fee suggestion. I am not sure about Trust wallet because I don't use it for my bitcoin.

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Judging from people's explanation here, I think in trust wallet one must have up to $20 sats above before transacting, because it is needless to do a transaction that will incure changes that is higher than the amount you want to transfer.
They will suggest you fee rate in sat/byte or sat/vbyte, and I believe no suggestion like $20 sats, did you make a typo?

What are network fees. In this article, they suggest to use https://buybitcoinworldwide.com/fee-calculator/

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November 16, 2023, 07:37:52 AM
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But what I don't know is whether this high charges on bitcoin in trust wallet is applicable to bitcoin in Binance or other exchanges. Judging from people's explanation here, I think in trust wallet one must have up to $20 sats above before transacting, because it is needless to do a transaction that will incure changes that is higher than the amount you want to transfer.

The withdrawal fee is different from the transaction fee.

If Binance charges $20 or whatever the amount will be a flat fee no matter what is the network congestion. But trust wallet is a wallet so you can choose the fee and currently, you need to spend in fees.



Possibly you can broadcast the TX if the wallet allows fee customization but the transaction will not get confirmed in any way so better wait until the network clears.









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Possibly you can broadcast the TX if the wallet allows fee customization but the transaction will not get confirmed in any way so better wait until the network clears.
In addition if his transaction not confirmed after 2 weeks, his transaction will fail and his coins will back to his wallet without the fee he sent.
From the last 2 weeks, most of the fees are charged around 20-30 sat/vbyte which mean he need to send at least $1, personally I think it's not worth to get $5 for spend $1.

One of the reason is because Trustwallet doesn’t customize fees
Small correction: Trustwallet has a feature to customize your fees by clicking the top right icon.

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How do I know the the fee set by my wallet?
If you're using their mobile app, it'll show under "Network fee" after tapping "Next" when sending.

There's a tooltip button (!) there that explains what is it and in that tooltip, there's also a "Learn More" button that explains it further.
The fee rate they set is based from their perspective on what's currently optimal and today is not a good time for low value transactions.

I have the $6 in my wallet and haven't made any transaction before in that wallet just a newly created wallet
So in other words, you received that $6 in a single transaction?
If so, that's good since your transaction's size will be low that'll result with lower absolute fee.

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Good day every one, I had some issues on my trust wallet. I was sent about $6 in my bitcoin address and I have been trying to send to another bitcoin address and it has been showing me this error message"Unable to transfer due to dust utxo error" what should I do please?

I have reduced the price from 5 to 4 to 3 and Even $2 but still the same message.
This has become an issue of recent pending when the Ordinal hype will die. But there is a way around it, @Charles-Tim made this post in our local board and it has helped me complete some transactions cheaper and faster. He recommended using ViaBTC to make the transaction confirmaton faster. You must know that Trust wallet is can misbehave sometimes and will never allow you to withdraw that money. What you will do is to follow these steps:

1. download Electrum wallet, then import your wallet using the seed phrase.
2.  Initiate the transaction by selecting mempool then set the fee to at least 10sats/byte then send it.
3. Copy the TX and paste it in https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/

The transaction will be accelerated and confirmed faster. I have tested this and spend approximately $2. You can spend less but ensure you put the fee between 10 to 20sats/byte.

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November 16, 2023, 08:17:25 AM
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How do I know the the fee set by my wallet?
Any decent wallet would show you the transaction fee before sending. You should stop using Trust wallet and switch to for instance Electrum.

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I have the $6 in my wallet and haven't made any transaction before in that wallet just a newly created wallet
Using dollars ("$6") doesn't mean anything for on-chain Bitcoin transactions. Think in Bitcoin Wink In Bitcoin, it's currently impossible to send such small amounts. For further reading, I created a topic about small inputs years ago: [Nov 2023] Fees are high, wait for opportunity to Consolidate your small inputs.
The moment transaction fees required to send your input are higher than the input itself, your input is basically worthless. Don't give up on it though, just wait for fees to get lower again.

I think I have stated it already in my topic that it's trust wallet
The name of that wallet is so generic, it's easy to overlook you actually mean a wallet.

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One of the reason is because Trustwallet doesn’t customize fees
Small correction: Trustwallet has a feature to customize your fees by clicking the top right icon.

Yeah I actually just look into it and saw that once you click on next after the typing the amount you wish to send and the address that is when the transaction fee will appear with a setting at the top right corner which if you click it will allow you to customize your fee, it is a new added feature I guess because when I was using the wallet it wasn’t there. Although even now I don’t the set up at least the fees should be on same page as address and amount typing is done.

In addition if his transaction not confirmed after 2 weeks, his transaction will fail and his coins will back to his wallet without the fee he sent.

The 2 weeks (14 days) set as default for unconfirmed transaction to be sent back to your address varies base on the time each nodes picks up the transaction, with the time different for each node to pick a transaction that unconfirmed transaction would stay longer than that in the mempool. Another one again is the type of wallet used, some wallets have an in built rebroadcast. As such they regularly rebroadcast that transaction which will make it stay there for almost when it get confirmed.

As for the fees if it is dropped, I think the fees will also be return with it because only the node that include your transaction in his mined block can actually collect that transaction fee and since it wasn’t mined no node can collect that transaction fee

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But what I don't know is whether this high charges on bitcoin in trust wallet is applicable to bitcoin in Binance or other exchanges.
Note that the fee you pay when making a transaction from trustwallet or any other non-cusotodial wallet goes to miners and you don't pay any fee to trustwallet.
If you make a withdrawal from binance or any other exchange, you have to pay higher fees.


In addition if his transaction not confirmed after 2 weeks, his transaction will fail and his coins will back to his wallet without the fee he sent.
If a transaction stays unconfirmed for 2 weeks, many nodes will drop it from their mempool. But some will still have it in their mempool and it's possible that the transaction is confirmed if the required fee rate decreases.
Also, you are not charged for an unconfirmed transaction.


2.  Initiate the transaction by selecting mempool then set the fee to at least 10sats/vbyte then send it.
3. Copy the TX and paste it in https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/
The minimum fee rate you should set for your transaction, so that you can use ViaBTC free accelerator is 10 sat/byte, not 10 sat/vbyte.


The 2 weeks (14 days) set as default for unconfirmed transaction to be sent back to your address varies base on the time each nodes picks up the transaction, with the time different for each node to pick a transaction that unconfirmed transaction would stay longer than that in the mempool.
It's true that nodes may receive transactions at different times, but the time that an unconfirmed transaction is kept in the mempool varies from node to node, because nodes can have different setting.
It's possible that two nodes receive a transaction at the same time, one of them keeps it for 2 weeks and the other one keeps it for 1 month.

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The 2 weeks (14 days) set as default for unconfirmed transaction to be sent back to your address
Your bitcoin does not move anywhere if the broadcast and pending transaction does not get a single confirmation by Bitcoin miners.

No send back after 2 weeks or longer because your bitcoin has never moved to any new address without a confirmation.

If there is a return transaction like you said, who will pay that on-chain transaction fee? Mempools? Miners? None of them pay it.

Mempools only drop your pending transaction from their memory pools because your transaction exceeds a maximum size of their mempools. They will prioritize pending transactions with higher fee rates than yours.

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Possibly you can broadcast the TX if the wallet allows fee customization but the transaction will not get confirmed in any way so better wait until the network clears.
In addition if his transaction not confirmed after 2 weeks, his transaction will fail and his coins will back to his wallet without the fee he sent.

I want you correct you about the bolded parts because any transaction that is dropped from the mempool will typically returned to the sender's wallet, and the amount, along with the fee, becomes available again. So the transacted amount + fee you paid will be returned.









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I want you correct you about the bolded parts because any transaction that is dropped from the mempool will typically returned to the sender's wallet, and the amount, along with the fee, becomes available again. So the transacted amount + fee you paid will be returned.
You broadcast a transaction and wait for a confirmation from miners that mostly work with mining pools. With that, you include a transaction fee and waiting for a confirmation to pay it to miners. If that Pending transaction is not confirmed, the fee will not be paid.

Your transaction is only valid when it has a confirmation from miner and full nodes validate it on Bitcoin blockchain. When your transaction is valid, at that time you actually paid transaction fee to miners.

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I think you misunderstood the Op. The transaction was not stuck in the mempool. His Bitcoin hasn't left his wallet, it's still sitting right in there, but he couldn't broadcast the transaction because he didn't have up to the required amount to cover for the transaction fee that's why he's getting the "Unable to transfer due to dust utxo error" message.  

In addition if his transaction not confirmed after 2 weeks, his transaction will fail and his coins will back to his wallet without the fee he sent.
I want you correct you about the bolded parts because any transaction that is dropped from the mempool will typically returned to the sender's wallet, and the amount, along with the fee, becomes available again. So the transacted amount + fee you paid will be returned.
That's correct, the amount sent and the transaction fee will be returned back. It's like saying no work, no pay.

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November 16, 2023, 05:07:31 PM
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I think you misunderstood the Op. The transaction was not stuck in the mempool. His Bitcoin hasn't left his wallet, it's still sitting right in there, but he couldn't broadcast the transaction because he didn't have up to the required amount to cover for the transaction fee that's why he's getting the "Unable to transfer due to dust utxo error" message.  
Perhaps you need to read my response again and that of the OP. He has $6 dollar in Trust wallet and is unable to send it out because of UTXO error. My suggestion was for him to use Electrum wallet and set the fee to 10sats/byte, this will enable him to send the transaction which will not be possible in Trust Wallet. After sending, he can use ViaBTC to facilitate the confirmation. I don't know if you read anything different from this from my comment.

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