People not reading page 1 comments discussion thread.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Recently I have come across several cases of people commenting without reading the fucking comments on the first page.

I already commented on this in a thread in which I ended up getting fed up because even in that thread I found people commenting without having read, at least carefully enough.

People commenting on the first page without having read the previous posts.

The latest case I have just come across:

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Another one who doesn't read.

Do you please mind to read the fucking comments on the first page?

I also submitted my complaints to AskGamblers and CasinoGuru. You can follow them here:
https://casino.guru/bc-game-casino-player-s-withdrawal-is-delayed-and
https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/bc-game-casino-cancelled-my-bonuses-and-locked-my-account-with-more-than-100k-usd-balance

We're not talking about threads that are 27 pages long, it's just that they don't read the fucking comments on the first page.

I think the best I can do is to compile them here and I'll mention the manager in case he wants to consider paying them for those posts. In today's case, the manager is Little Mouse.

[Little Mouse]

In today's case, the manager is Little Mouse.

I'm about to send a PM to the manager so he doesn't pay him for that post.

Nice.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Recently I have come across several cases of people commenting without reading the fucking comments on the first page.

Calm down and use the report to moderator button. You do not need to be over excited and create a dedicated topic about it.

I can not remember how many times I was in these type of conversations. If you go through meta board you will find many similar discussions or many posts with similar discussed contents where the main topic subject is different.

People commenting on the first page without having read the previous posts.

Unlocking this topic and a bump could save you from creating this topic. Now we have two similar topic from you in only a week time.

[yahoo62278]

I don't know how long you plan on sticking around this forum, but I have been here 9 years and seen no changes as far as people reading the 1st page. I'm sure we all have been guilty of it at some point.

I notice the same thing said over and over in a thread. Sure, it might be worded differently, but it's still the same thing. People looking for that post quota.

Reporting a post or having the manager look into it is 1 possible solution but how do you know if the manager is actually looking into it? They may say thank you and disregard. If the issue doesn't stop(probably wont) then what?

[electronicash]

I also submitted my complaints to AskGamblers and CasinoGuru. You can follow them here:
https://casino.guru/bc-game-casino-player-s-withdrawal-is-delayed-and
https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/bc-game-casino-cancelled-my-bonuses-and-locked-my-account-with-more-than-100k-usd-balance

I will let you know if there are any updates. Thanks again.

^ this post should have been inserted into the OP so that users will be updated with what is going on under the thread. kinda like a note: update... under the first post.

everyone is trying to achieve the quota. if this is something that could be added to the rules in the forum, a lot of users will be purged because even the reply of the OP is not seen. maybe Theymos can make the OP replies under the thread be colored to be noticed so that people scrolling down will see some updates of what OP did after. or probably just turn this (OP) to pink?  

[examplens]

We're not talking about threads that are 27 pages long, it's just that they don't read the fucking comments on the first page.

I'm not the check thread you're talking about, but I know there are a really large number of such. I'm pretty sure that in those 27 pages, at least 50% of the posts repeat the same thing or something that was said but in a different way. I'm also pretty sure that no one or maybe very few users will read part of the discussion that takes place there.

Such threads led the managers to introduce a rule of not accepting posts in mega threads even after 5-7 pages.

[_BlackStar]

I think the best I can do is to compile them here and I'll mention the manager in case he wants to consider paying them for those posts. In today's case, the manager is Little Mouse.

The best solution I think of when you don't see a positive response from your intended user after a warning is - report the post to moderator.

You can report the user to the manager, but I don't think it will change the user's behavior completely even if he is removed from the campaign. This case is only about one user - but there are many other users who behaved the same way and not all of them have a signature on their profile. I tend to report posts like that to moderators rather than managers - but you can contribute in your own way.

[digaran]

We should ask in meta about the administration opinion to see whether they condone a DT member who is supposed to represent trustworthiness and respectfulness of this community to run around and interact with people in such an undignifying manner or not.

Now my honest opinion, who the F do you think you are to act as a behavioural police to tell them what they should or should not do?  Wait, for a second I felt I'm talking about myself. 🤣  anyways, it's all good OP, keep going with full strength.

Funny how some people talk about reaching a quota for sig campaigns, as if they never managed a campaign with certain post quotas, or some others talk like they are not in a sig campaign spamming to reach the said quota.  I'm not talking about any particular person other than OP and yahoo. At least yahoo shows some decency even though he loves to act like tough guys, but inside he is soft, on the other hand, OP needs to learn about dignity and how to respect people he meets for the first time, just imagine you see some strangers talking, and you go straight to tell one of them why the F won't you listen to the other guy who is been talking and then go running to find his employer to tell them: Lo0k He DoEsN'T LiStEn So YoU nEeD tO fIRe HiM f0r ThAt!!!

[Vod]

Recently I have come across several cases of people commenting without reading the fucking comments on the first page.

I'm guilty of that on a lot of tech sites.   Who has time to read through hundreds of comments to see if your specific question has been answered?

However, I do quickly browse the first page, since that's where most answers are referenced or stickied.   So I guess I would be OK here.

This is a problem when you pay people to post.  You reduce the quality of discussions to benefits of eating tacos on Tuesday. 

[Orpichukwu]

I'm guilty of that on a lot of tech sites.   Who has time to read through hundreds of comments to see if your specific question has been answered?

However, I do quickly browse the first page, since that's where most answers are referenced or stickied.   So I guess I would be OK here.

I do this a lot of time too. If I'm not active on the forum to meet a thread when it was created and I don't fit in on the first page, most times all I do is read through the OP, follow the first page comment, and then over to the last page comment and see the recent comments too. This is where if I have something to add to the table, I do that, and if I have nothing to say, I just work away.
 
In a thread of 1–10 pages, only a few members will have the time and energy to read through them all. That's just the simple truth. Unless the thread is really something of interest and there is simple information the person is looking for in it, it's not as if it's the best thing to do, but people just find it too lazy to do that as they want to focus their attention on other things. Most people prefer asking an already-answered question rather than going through the stress of searching for answers.

[jokers10]

In a thread of 1–10 pages, only a few members will have the time and energy to read through them all.

If a topic is of dozens of pages no one expects the newbie in it to read all the thread of discussion. But when we see that in the new topic the first page of posts is entirely of totally the same answers on the first post without anything new comparing with the first or the second answer post, it kills all the discussion.

It is so demotivating when you read main point of a discussion, read a couple of last pages (of 5-7-15-20-...) to know what in the direction of a discussion at the moment, come into it with your idea and then see many answers of the first post of the topic, that are totally ignoring all the discourse was before them. It kills a discussion in those topics. No sense in answering if nobody will ever answer you, if a significant part of the participants in a topic will answer only the first post again and again. Answering the first post on a third page has sense very very rare and nearly never it has any sense on the 4th page or further. And it never has any sense even on the first page if your answer is duplicating several the same before yours.

[Learn Bitcoin]

I don't know how many of us read all the comments from the first page before writing our thoughts. Let's talk about mine. I always try to read the OP; if it's interesting, I quote it and write my opinion. Yes, I also checked if similar comments were made or not. But as you understand, it's impossible to check those pages. But when it comes to reading the first page of replies, I do that. But still, sometimes we miss the answer that was in front of our eyes. I suggest others read before they post, yet I do the same thing and laugh at my own when I understand. This is a common mistake.

[1miau]

Yeah, that would be nice if these posts like from Wapfika won't receive any reward of any sort.
Unfortunately, spotting and rejecting such posts would mean additional work for campaign managers, so maybe a community based topic to collect such stuff can be helpful, indeed.
Three strikes could result in a round of missed weekly signature campaign rewards.
Campaign managers checking OP's topic would also be very effective.
Or some sort of blacklist for signature campaigns if OP is willing to make a table of all names and posts of abusers:

Account	Date	Post link
__________________	___________________	____________
Wapfika	November 16, 2023	Link

 
There can be many strategies how to discourage this. Reduced rewards seem to be the only language these shitposters will understand. 

[jokers10]

I don't know how many of us read all the comments from the first page before writing our thoughts. Let's talk about mine. I always try to read the OP; if it's interesting, I quote it and write my opinion. Yes, I also checked if similar comments were made or not. But as you understand, it's impossible to check those pages. But when it comes to reading the first page of replies, I do that. But still, sometimes we miss the answer that was in front of our eyes. I suggest others read before they post, yet I do the same thing and laugh at my own when I understand. This is a common mistake.

Forum unlike blog is a place for discussions. You can agree with others and give some additional info or view, or you can disagree and say something in oppose, or you can side one point against others. But you are communicating with others in the topic, not only answering to the OP.

Simply answering to OP is a blog format: there is one blog author and others talk mainly to him. Forum discussion is different: all with all. If you open some topic and all answers in there are answers to a first post then of course no one is interested in reading all that similar answers without any additional info. It is boring and pointless. And if there was a discussion with some new ideas or separate points of view it could be totally different. So similar pointless answers kill any discussion and so make pointless reading topics and entering discussion. Self multiplicating problem. If Russian board was the same as some English sections in this way, I'm not sure I still was here.

[Plaguedeath]

When you only find one or few mistakes he did, I think it's just a small mistake and should be corrected just by report to moderator, not necessary to report in a dedicated thread. Similar like users who apply a campaign before the campaign manager announce if he's looking for new participants.

I believe every people make a mistake, sometime I also make a mistake especially in technical discussion, should we need to report an user who make such mistake too? I would be one of them.

@OP don't get me wrong, reporting such user could be useful if you've report many of his posts and the moderators mark your report as "good", this mean the moderators are agree if the user not qualify the forum's standard.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

This thread has become on the first page what I didn't want it to be, a discussion thread. I will create a self-moderated one just for reports, which may contain some relevant comments, but I will leave this one for discussion.

Calm down and use the report to moderator button.

For starters, you haven't read the comment in question, nor the other thread, otherwise you wouldn't advise reporting.

I don't know how long you plan on sticking around this forum, but I have been here 9 years and seen no changes as far as people reading the 1st page.

So if something has been going wrong for 9 years, we have to keep on doing it. Allow me to differ from your opinion.

^ this post should have been inserted into the OP so that users will be updated with what is going on under the thread. kinda like a note: update... under the first post.

everyone is trying to achieve the quota. if this is something that could be added to the rules in the forum, a lot of users will be purged because even the reply of the OP is not seen. maybe Theymos can make the OP replies under the thread be colored to be noticed so that people scrolling down will see some updates of what OP did after. or probably just turn this (OP) to pink?  

Are you seriously suggesting that instead of people reading page 1, theymos should make a patch? LMAO

The best solution I think of when you don't see a positive response from your intended user after a warning is - report the post to moderator.

The best solution is to read before you comment.

Yeah, that would be nice if these posts like from Wapfika won't receive any reward of any sort.
Unfortunately, spotting and rejecting such posts would mean additional work for campaign managers, so maybe a community based topic to collect such stuff can be helpful, indeed.
Three strikes could result in a round of missed weekly signature campaign rewards.
Campaign managers checking OP's topic would also be very effective.

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There can be many strategies how to discourage this. Reduced rewards seem to be the only language these shitposters will understand. 

That is the idea. We can all make a mistake or slip up at any given moment. By making a compilation, you will be able to see especially if there are people who repeatedly comment without reading the obvious. And I'm setting the bar low, eh? Just read the comments on page 1.

[digaran]

Looks like you found a fan to help you in this fantastic journey, of course who could that be other than a weasel trust abuser. You make a perfect couple.

I just have a question though? What will happen after listing all the posts of people that reply without reading the first page?

Don't tell me, you and your nazi friend will give them neutral or even negative, right? Because who really cares if 2 nazis run around the forum and individually harass forum members with threats, trust feedbacks, am I right or am I right?

The way I see some of you weasel nazis operate, soon it will be you and your alts all alone left here with nothing to do but circle fingering each other.😅

[JackpotRacer]

I don't know how long you plan on sticking around this forum, but I have been here 9 years and seen no changes as far as people reading the 1st page. I'm sure we all have been guilty of it at some point.

I notice the same thing said over and over in a thread. Sure, it might be worded differently, but it's still the same thing. People looking for that post quota.

Reporting a post or having the manager look into it is 1 possible solution but how do you know if the manager is actually looking into it? They may say thank you and disregard. If the issue doesn't stop(probably wont) then what?

all this BS posts just to show your signature! I would like to know if Stake will appreciate this kind of postings with their Signature?
I don't think so!

oh BTW you forgot to use the word Asshole

just quoting @Vod who is spot on (I fully agree with him)

This is a problem when you pay people to post.  You reduce the quality of discussions to benefits of eating tacos on Tuesday.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I don't know how long you plan on sticking around this forum, but I have been here 9 years and seen no changes as far as people reading the 1st page. I'm sure we all have been guilty of it at some point.

I notice the same thing said over and over in a thread. Sure, it might be worded differently, but it's still the same thing. People looking for that post quota.

Disclaimer: yahoo62278's post is as far as I've read in this thread, but I think his comment is all I really want to respond to.  What he wrote is true, and that last sentence there about people trying to meet their post quota for whatever campaign they're in has been true for probably longer than 9 years--and I've also never seen much of an improvement in my time here.

Except that the merit system might have improved post quality overall, but the effect hasn't exactly been overwhelming.  I'm not even sure if we'd see people not reading before posting even if sig campaigns and bounties suddenly went *poof*.  I've seen posts on reddit made by people who'd obviously not read a single thing in the thread they were posting in.

I guess if a post is of extremely low quality and it shows that the person making it didn't read even the first page of the thread, report it to the mods (as was already suggested).  Low/zero-value posts should be reported anyway.

[stompix]

Recently I have come across several cases of people commenting without reading the fucking comments on the first page.

Recently?
Just several?
Am I still on Bitcointalk?

I get it that you're angry about some shitposters but you can consider yourself damn lucky if this is all.
I've come across shitposter who don't read anything other than the title and are competing based on that despite the first post being completely different, someone posting some crap on the third or fourth page without reading the previous stuff, it's annoying but it's also the norm nowadays.

Not that I'm defending those guys, but you had a nice journey so far around here till now if this was the first negative experience.

What will happen after listing all the posts of people that reply without reading the first page?

Hopefully, they get pitchforked!

Don't tell me, you and your nazi

Yawn, everyone used this nazi thing on everything that it lost all meaning, nazi this nazi that, nobody reacts to that anymore, replace nazi with
pomegranate ice cream and you get the same reaction, nothing!