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November 17, 2023, 07:16:13 PM
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I don't think we should decrease the responsibility just because the other one is about drugs and the other one is about gambling, addiction is addiction and it may differ on one another on how it can be dealt with. I think environment has a lot of factors if you want to be rehabbed or not, if you want to quit then put efforts, change place if necessary, have a different lifestyle.
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November 17, 2023, 07:38:45 PM
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I don't think we should decrease the responsibility just because the other one is about drugs and the other one is about gambling, addiction is addiction and it may differ on one another on how it can be dealt with. I think environment has a lot of factors if you want to be rehabbed or not, if you want to quit then put efforts, change place if necessary, have a different lifestyle.
Environment matters concerning the transformation we face in the system. Quitting is also part of the game, when we can't push any longer, giving up is an option because it's not in all cases we obtain to push further, sometimes we give up and explore other alternatives to start over probably on another activity. We have responsibilities and whenever we gamble or take drugs, we do it to please ourselves and gives oneself that particular pleasure. There's no way to put it, addiction is addiction and it's very difficult to stop when one is already a victim.

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November 17, 2023, 07:44:55 PM
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I was so scared with this story and It affected me for a while, I stopped gambling for a week because of what I heard from this man, his appearance is that of someone you won't want to listen to but what he went through is so eye opening that if other addicted gamblers hear from him it could change them, gambling addiction is really scary.

All I see here is not someone feeling sorry for gamblers, but all I could see from your post and those who reason and think like you is cross-addiction. With what I have read from your post, you are seeing one form of addiction as a good one and another as a bad one.
 
So if you are asked to advise someone who is a gambling addict on the best way to stop their gambling addiction, you can probably give cross-addiction advice that's advising them to use another form of addiction to cover up their gambling habit, either looking for something else that could take their time and reasoning off gambling and as such getting addicted to that.
 
No matter how good something appears to be, no form of addiction is a good one. Most people who are addicted to different things always give their own opinion and make things look like their own is better than the other, but the truth is they are all on the same page, and every form of addiction should be worked on and stopped.

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November 17, 2023, 08:10:56 PM
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I don't think we should decrease the responsibility just because the other one is about drugs and the other one is about gambling, addiction is addiction and it may differ on one another on how it can be dealt with. I think environment has a lot of factors if you want to be rehabbed or not, if you want to quit then put efforts, change place if necessary, have a different lifestyle.
Gambling is very addictive and if we don't stop or reduce the way we gamble we can end up becoming an addict. Addictive gamblers are everywhere even here and they might not even that they are addicted gambler. Some persons might get to know that they are addictive gamblers when they answer questionaire about who is a gambling addict. Like we know that truth is bitter that is the same way people are not aware of the current situation they are. Those that had been gambling for long would have learnt something about their past and how to be a better gambler.

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November 17, 2023, 08:30:55 PM
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It's a tough call comparing addictions like drugs and gambling, you know? They can both get their hooks in deep.  But it's wild what you noticed about drug addicts being more responsible with money than gambling addicts.  That ain't the usual stereotype, is it? And that story of the gambling addict is bonkers! Doesn't sound believable to me.

Personally I think drug addiction's way worse than gambling.  Both can wreck your life, yeah, but with drugs you're looking at more than just losing money.  The damage it does is no joke.  It'll trash your health, screw up your relationships and cause all kinds of other issues down the road and  dont get me wrong here, gambling's a serious problem too.  But the whole range of fallout from drug addiction seems more extreme to me.  You're not just dealing with some lost cash.  You could lose your freakin' life!

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November 17, 2023, 08:43:32 PM
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Between drugs and gambling, which one do you think is more addicting than the other? I have a good reason for asking this question, because there is something I saw not too long and I am doubting if anyone have seen the same thing, I am from a place where crack heads ( drugs addicts ) and also gambling addicts are all around, here is what I've seen.

I have seen crack heads more than responsible with there cash, than gambling addicts, this is what make me to ask you guys this question, drug junks are more responsible than gamblers, I have seen a gambling addict who spend 200 grand in under one and half hour on gambling, I've never seen a crack head done such before, not even on drugs.

I have seen a crack head who changed and when we had some chats he thank God in front of me, saying he is thankful that is addiction was on drugs and not gambling, he sounds so scary of getting addicted to gambling as he confirmed that gambling seems so much harder to quit.

He went on and say something about his friend who use 15 years on gambling and the friend isn't really sure how he will stop and the friend said that if he didn't stop it will kill him sooner or later, like he knew the danger lurking but he doesn't know how to stop, he isn't sure he will get better. The friend started telling him how the world will be better off without him, that's when they started locking him up, and the battle to change him when on for four years straight before he died from strange illness.

I was so scared with this story and It affected me for a while, I stopped gambling for a week because of what I heard from this man, his appearance is that of someone you won't want to listen to but what he went through is so eye opening that if other addicted gamblers hear from him it could change them, gambling addiction is really scary.

Any form of addiction is always been that bad, but if we do make up some comparison in between drug addiction then i could say that it is really more worst.
Why? it isnt really that only affecting your financial badly but also into your body or health or your brain which it could really be a lifetime effect.

Spending up bucks would be faster and instant on gambling literally or no brainer but spending some hundreds of bucks in drugs would really be
enough on making your crazy.  Grin

Any addiction is curable or something that you could be able to heal and make such changes. It wouldreally be that a matter of choice and discipline towards
quitting which we know that it wont really be that so simple to achieve but not really impossible though.

You wont really be needing some eye opening  for you to stop gambling, as long you do make yourself that responsible then i dont really
think that you would be needing up to quit just because you've been scared with those things.

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November 17, 2023, 08:57:31 PM
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Between drugs and gambling, which one do you think is more addicting than the other? I have a good reason for asking this question, because there is something I saw not too long and I am doubting if anyone have seen the same thing, I am from a place where crack heads ( drugs addicts ) and also gambling addicts are all around, here is what I've seen.

I have seen crack heads more than responsible with there cash, than gambling addicts, this is what make me to ask you guys this question, drug junks are more responsible than gamblers, I have seen a gambling addict who spend 200 grand in under one and half hour on gambling, I've never seen a crack head done such before, not even on drugs.


Both the thing was addict giving one,because the gambler also easy addicted by the game enivornment.The gambling site now was more attractive then a live casino,this was the reason for the gamblers addiction was more in number.And the drugs will give us the fun immediately and we forgot after we get away from the drug,but the gambling addiction will be increased with the losses by the gambler on the continuous game.The game when you loss means,you will earn knowledge from all the game.The knowledge from the loss will allow you to regain the same loss from the gambling site.We should ready to manage the loss in the future game.It's essential for the gambler to understand the loss at the time of the loss.So use the luck to get back all the loss from the gambling site.
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November 17, 2023, 09:09:23 PM
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Don't you know that someone can be addicted in both of them depending what is their intension, so I know quite well that if you are addicted in gambling you can also be addicted in drugs, but in terms of whom will be fully addicted in gambling is that, in gambling its only the lovers of gaming or gambling can be addicted and the lovers of drugs can be addicted,  most if we should make this analysis by ratio and statistics I will say that the total number of someone who is addicted in gambling and someone who is addicted in drugs, the one on drugs will be higher, because some people gamble to get money to buy drugs,so sometimes it's drugs majority beings addicted to.

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Don't you know that someone can be addicted in both of them depending what is their intension, so I know quite well that if you are addicted in gambling you can also be addicted in drugs, but in terms of whom will be fully addicted in gambling is that, in gambling its only the lovers of gaming or gambling can be addicted and the lovers of drugs can be addicted,  most if we should make this analysis by ratio and statistics I will say that the total number of someone who is addicted in gambling and someone who is addicted in drugs, the one on drugs will be higher, because some people gamble to get money to buy drugs,so sometimes it's drugs majority beings addicted to.

The addiction of the drugs was based on the full reason of the joy from the drug consumption,but gambling will give us the same joy after the big win in the gambling sites.But some gamber who get loss also get addicted to the gambling sites,So it was happened only by the opinion of the gambler to chase the loss from their next betting.Most of the gambler use to learn the knowledge from the losing game.So the loss was recovered with the knowledge from the loss,but the disadvantage was the gambler need to tackle the algorithm atleast at the next time which he try to recover the loss.But if the gambler had failed to get the loss again,this may leads to the again loss into the gambling sites.So now the gambler should not blame the gambling sites for the loss in the continuous games,the fact is the gambler again failed to tackle the algorithm.
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November 18, 2023, 04:41:40 AM
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It's not the type of addiction that is more dangerous than the other but it's the severity that makes things worse in any case. Even addiction to some kind of food can be poisonous for a person if the addiction reaches an extreme point where the person consumes more than the necessary amount of that food. So, it's not like drug addiction is less dangerous than gambling addiction but it depends on how deep one gets into that addiction and whether one can get out of it or not.

You will see a lot of gambling addicts who can manage to get out of their addiction and a lot of drug addicts who aren't able to step out of that world and if they try, they become sick, yes, after one point in an addiction, if you stop doing that thing, you will start becoming ill because your mind and body have become addicted to that thing and it can't survive without it even though it is also dying off slowly when you are doing that thing.

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November 18, 2023, 07:37:45 AM
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Don't you know that someone can be addicted in both of them depending what is their intension, so I know quite well that if you are addicted in gambling you can also be addicted in drugs, but in terms of whom will be fully addicted in gambling is that, in gambling its only the lovers of gaming or gambling can be addicted and the lovers of drugs can be addicted,  most if we should make this analysis by ratio and statistics I will say that the total number of someone who is addicted in gambling and someone who is addicted in drugs, the one on drugs will be higher, because some people gamble to get money to buy drugs,so sometimes it's drugs majority beings addicted to.

Addiction to anything related to these two things is not a good thing, because each of these two things has the same side, which has a dangerous impact on the addicts, who can do unexpected things without thinking about the risks because their minds are filled with these two things. And the worst thing is that they can lose their minds because of their addiction to these two things, with addiction to one of these things alone, sadly it is certain that it can provide a bad impact for them, especially if they are addicted to these two things,  of course it can be ensured that there will be no good future, especially with young people who are now freely sociable, they are vulnerable to getting to know these two things with the current social environment, if they are smart in choosing relationships maybe they will not be trapped in addiction to these two things. Because these two things have an unfavorable view, maybe they will do it secretly. What I am afraid of is that from addiction to these two things, they can dare to commit crimes that have great risks that are not playing games and can even deal with the police.

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November 18, 2023, 07:39:51 AM
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Between drugs and gambling, which one do you think is more addicting than the other? I have a good reason for asking this question, because there is something I saw not too long and I am doubting if anyone have seen the same thing, I am from a place where crack heads ( drugs addicts ) and also gambling addicts are all around, here is what I've seen.
Both are the same, both are on the bad list because they have an impact that can make people trapped in a black hole, but the depth of the hole is slightly different.
Addiction is dependency. Dependence on something so that the physical and psychological can work well makes a person no longer live normally.

If you are dependent on drugs, then people need something that can make them physical, such as alcohol and other types of goods. Without the help of these items, their physical and psychological abilities are not able to interact like normal humans.
Something similar may happen with gambling addiction.
Came to the conclusion that these two types of addiction are not good.

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November 18, 2023, 08:05:38 AM
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IMO, drug addiction and gambling addiction are the same, just different concepts.
gambling addicts have the same bleak future as drug addicts, only the risk is that they will continue to be poor, lose all their money and try other ways of following their passions, such as stealing, etc., which will end up in prison.
meanwhile, drug addicts have almost the same risk, only it does not involve the money they have or it does not involve the money they own, but the risk of addiction which has a bad impact on internal organs which will be damaged if they continue to consume drugs and will definitely experience problems or can be said to die slowly.

and after I understand several times what you wrote you only think about the level of quitting between gambling addiction and drug addiction and I see you think that it is easier for drug addicts to recover from their addiction while it is difficult for gambling addicts to quit their addiction.

remember, any addiction can be cured as long as the person with the addiction has a strong desire. this does not mean that gambling addiction is difficult to cure. It depends on the person desire to live a healthier life without addiction.

there are several people I know closely who have just recovered from gambling addiction and drug addiction, both of whom are currently living healthy lives without addiction and this is all thanks to their desire to really stop addiction.

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November 18, 2023, 08:09:48 AM
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Between drugs and gambling, which one do you think is more addicting than the other? I have a good reason for asking this question, because there is something I saw not too long and I am doubting if anyone have seen the same thing, I am from a place where crack heads ( drugs addicts ) and also gambling addicts are all around, here is what I've seen.


In my opinion drugs are much more dagnerous when it comes to addiction than gambling. The main issue here is that drugs are chemicals that actually change your body and brain. I have met a few drugs addicts in my life, but never a gambling addict. So, it's a bit hard to know exactly how severe a gambling addiction can become. With drug abusers it's that their body is slowly going to change and there are a lot of physical issues after many years of drug using. I think that gambling addictions are mostly in the mind and will control our behaviour. With drugs however you can see withdrawal symptoms that are really strong. My cousin was addicted to drugs when he was younger and it was terrible how it changed him. I remember that he tried to get rid of it a few times on his own and could sleep for days, was sweating every night and in the end always had a relapse. Any form of addiction is terrible, but it's one thing to fight the mental addictions, and something completely different to try and repair your body after many years of substance abuses. In the worst case it might not even possible to recover and all the damage done to your body is permanent.
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November 18, 2023, 08:18:15 AM
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Don't you know that someone can be addicted in both of them depending what is their intension, so I know quite well that if you are addicted in gambling you can also be addicted in drugs, but in terms of whom will be fully addicted in gambling is that, in gambling its only the lovers of gaming or gambling can be addicted and the lovers of drugs can be addicted,  most if we should make this analysis by ratio and statistics I will say that the total number of someone who is addicted in gambling and someone who is addicted in drugs, the one on drugs will be higher, because some people gamble to get money to buy drugs,so sometimes it's drugs majority beings addicted to.
I agree with you because most of the gambling addicts I meet are also addicted to various drugs. This is not true compared to the current situation but in the past when people used to play offline gambling it was seen that along with the gambling session they also indulged in different types of drugs. However, there are many people who are not addicted to any other drugs but are now addicted to gambling. However, those who are addicted to other drugs they not only do just gambling for cover the money of addiction.  Even those who are in the world of addiction, be it any addiction, when they don't get money for it, they choose different crime paths for money.


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November 18, 2023, 08:39:11 AM
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I don't think we should decrease the responsibility just because the other one is about drugs and the other one is about gambling, addiction is addiction and it may differ on one another on how it can be dealt with. I think environment has a lot of factors if you want to be rehabbed or not, if you want to quit then put efforts, change place if necessary, have a different lifestyle.
Environment matters a lot because it influence contribute to our behaviour and it act very fast, so if anyone want to change his attitude, changing environment will help them fast, as we all know addiction is a metal disease that can't be taking away easily but it every hard to change habit when you are still in that the same environment. The must funny part is that when drug addiction and gambler meet each of them will be praying against each other, gambler will be say he thank god that he is not drugs addicted while the drug addiction will also say thank god he is not a gambler at that instance is not good to listen to both of them because they are base on the same feather flying together.

For my own opinion change of environment is the best for both of them but as for a gambler is the must difficult part because once a gambler is always a gambler even though he has been moved from that environment he will equally find a way to make money and establish that gamble in that new place, it will happen like this, he will just create a content and will start arguing with others and he will first put the money and say if am wrong the person should take the money from there people will like to join him because of the money that is involved and gradually drawing their attention while a drug addiction if can get any access to any drugs he will be managing.

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November 18, 2023, 08:58:37 AM
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Although there are many similarities between gambling addiction and drug addiction, there are some significant differences between drugs and gambling. Gambling addiction is a progressive disorder that causes a persistent or periodic loss of control over gambling to the point of wanting to continue gambling despite adverse consequences. Meanwhile, drug addiction is based more on the user's behavior than on addiction. Drug addiction can be categorized as a disease, the reason is because it is very difficult to stop using drugs even though there are bad effects it causes. More simply, when someone is addicted to drugs continuously, it can cause serious health problems and even death.

Treatment for this addiction is also very different, gambling problems focus more on assessing financial problems, and can be overcome by reducing access to cash. Meanwhile drug addiction treatment relies more on residential services which involve rehabilitation including medical treatment due to experiencing drug withdrawal symptoms such as feeling physically ill when not using them.


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November 18, 2023, 12:20:59 PM
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Don't you know that someone can be addicted in both of them depending what is their intension, so I know quite well that if you are addicted in gambling you can also be addicted in drugs, but in terms of whom will be fully addicted in gambling is that, in gambling its only the lovers of gaming or gambling can be addicted and the lovers of drugs can be addicted,  most if we should make this analysis by ratio and statistics I will say that the total number of someone who is addicted in gambling and someone who is addicted in drugs, the one on drugs will be higher, because some people gamble to get money to buy drugs,so sometimes it's drugs majority beings addicted to.
I agree with you because most of the gambling addicts I meet are also addicted to various drugs. This is not true compared to the current situation but in the past when people used to play offline gambling it was seen that along with the gambling session they also indulged in different types of drugs. However, there are many people who are not addicted to any other drugs but are now addicted to gambling. However, those who are addicted to other drugs they not only do just gambling for cover the money of addiction.  Even those who are in the world of addiction, be it any addiction, when they don't get money for it, they choose different crime paths for money.
But the situation has now changed, and many online casinos can provide convenience for those who want to gamble. They no longer need to visit drug casinos, which can lead to other addictions such as alcohol or drug addiction. By gambling at this online casino, they are not involved in alcohol or drug addiction unless they also consume it by buying it and using it in their room without anyone knowing. This will obviously trigger alcohol and drug addiction simultaneously and if that happens, it will definitely be very difficult to cure it because the person has three addictions at once. And it is true that if someone is addicted to gambling and does not have money to satisfy their desire to gamble, they can commit crimes just to get money so they can gamble again.

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November 18, 2023, 12:42:51 PM
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I don't think we should decrease the responsibility just because the other one is about drugs and the other one is about gambling, addiction is addiction and it may differ on one another on how it can be dealt with. I think environment has a lot of factors if you want to be rehabbed or not, if you want to quit then put efforts, change place if necessary, have a different lifestyle.
For my own opinion change of environment is the best for both of them but as for a gambler is the must difficult part because once a gambler is always a gambler even though he has been moved from that environment he will equally find a way to make money and establish that gamble in that new place, it will happen like this, he will just create a content and will start arguing with others and he will first put the money and say if am wrong the person should take the money from there people will like to join him because of the money that is involved and gradually drawing their attention while a drug addiction if can get any access to any drugs he will be managing.
For sure it will be hard at first but I think over time it will have an impact if a gambler change somehow his environment. If someone wants to make an effort I think it will pay off someday and that little change will make a difference. Can't understand how you put that logic but it's different in every circumstances.
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November 18, 2023, 12:44:43 PM
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Between drugs and gambling, which one do you think is more addicting than the other? I have a good reason for asking this question, because there is something I saw not too long and I am doubting if anyone have seen the same thing, I am from a place where crack heads ( drugs addicts ) and also gambling addicts are all around, here is what I've seen.
Addiction be it drugs or gambling are both very dangerous and harmful to both the health and psychology of any individual who is involved in it, it's a serious matter they should be treated as a case of emergency because it only take time and some of this addicts loose their lives or probably turns out insane due to the addiction.

Gambling affects your finances firstly and then gradually creeps into other aspects of your life, sometimes it even further grow into drug addiction, a case where by a gambler has lost so much to the casino, in other to get pass the whole situation, some of them results to drugs so as to help them forget or heal from the losses but sadly on the long-run they turn out addiction while trying to run from another incident.

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