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November 30, 2023, 01:56:40 PM
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I don't think it's a generalized subject about gambling as more harmful than drug addiction, some feel it the other way around others feel that drug is more harmful and dangerous because they destroy the mind and the body, in fact so many dies of drug overdose because the body cannot keep up, and some drug addicts commit crimes because their minds are clouded by the drugs they take.
Both addiction are bad for health and finances we cannot make one better than the other, some can survive the drugs, and some can survive gambling if we have a friend who are in any of the two we need to do everything to help them and not make a comparison.
In my opinion, these two things can both ruin a person's life from the start before they introduce these two things, some people who are addicted to gambling can commit crimes when they don't have the funds to do the gambling they want and those who are addicted to drugs of course so too.
Helping those who have experienced addiction to this is not an easy thing to do if they themselves do not have the desire to leave what they are doing.

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November 30, 2023, 02:04:15 PM
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The truth is we are all different and we all have our own stories. I know people who have been able to give up drugs, gambling, smoking, alcohol and much more.

Most likely the person who told you his story does not have enough willpower or he is satisfied with his life if he realizes that he has a serious problem with gambling, but does not want to get rid of this addiction.

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November 30, 2023, 02:13:08 PM
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Which one is more addicting? I think it depends on the country, as some disallow gambling and then allow the use of most drugs. While the other is the opposite of it. But if we are to talk about their effects if we consume them equally, I think both are the same addicting.

Actually, not only them but anything that can make us happy or give us a dopamine can be addicting if we don't have a control for our selves. Cool story bro, but what is your gambling status right now? If you are scared and you stop playin for a while, then maybe you feel that you are getting addicted to it. But that's great. Once you feel you are now better, you can try playin responsibly again.

  Even if online gambling is banned in a country, they still cannot stop gamblers who want to become addicted to gambling. This is a fact that they cannot remove from each individual casino player.

 Only we can change ourselves if we ourselves decide that we will change. Although it is really just a difficulty, if we are persistent, we can do it. It's the same with drug use; there's almost no difference, to be honest.

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November 30, 2023, 02:17:34 PM
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Between drugs and gambling, which one do you think is more addicting than the other?
My understanding is that these two things are the same in terms of addiction or addiction, gambling and drugs are two factors that can make humans addicted beyond limits, for example risks that can affect an individual's brain health.

Both of these things are more due to the facts that occur, it's just that the addiction caused by gambling is financial in nature, drugs are more about the physical feelings felt by those who are addicted, but both also tend to have a financial impact.

But the fact that we have seen is that drug addiction is more dangerous than gambling, drugs lead to mental damage while gambling can still be rehabilitated, if those who are addicted are highly addicted, so the conclusion is that drugs are more dangerous than gambling.

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November 30, 2023, 07:48:08 PM
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I don't think it's a generalized subject about gambling as more harmful than drug addiction, some feel it the other way around others feel that drug is more harmful and dangerous because they destroy the mind and the body, in fact so many dies of drug overdose because the body cannot keep up, and some drug addicts commit crimes because their minds are clouded by the drugs they take.
Both addiction are bad for health and finances we cannot make one better than the other, some can survive the drugs, and some can survive gambling if we have a friend who are in any of the two we need to do everything to help them and not make a comparison.
In my opinion, these two things can both ruin a person's life from the start before they introduce these two things, some people who are addicted to gambling can commit crimes when they don't have the funds to do the gambling they want and those who are addicted to drugs of course so too.
Helping those who have experienced addiction to this is not an easy thing to do if they themselves do not have the desire to leave what they are doing.

despite all addiction being a very serious problem and difficult to connect with it, when we compare the level of destruction that a person addicted to alcohol, addicted to gambling in relation to a person who is addicted to drugs, we can see that the a person addicted to drugs causes greater destruction, let's look at an example of what has happened with games in rich countries, how they have easy access to drugs, see how they become criminals with certain ease, and something very scary is that they pick up a gun and They kill without hesitation, see how drugged women enter the world of prostitution very easily. This is because the drug affects the way a person thinks and acts. In my old neighborhood I met some people who had good hearts

but these people that I met who had good hearts entered the world of drugs and with that they started to think and act differently, I realized that they were using drugs and I started to be very afraid of talking to them, so I preferred to stay very far from them. This was because it was normal for them to be speaking with a calm and polite tone, but suddenly the guy would freak out and become violent for no reason that could justify that stance and that caused fear for anyone who was close to them, it was a very sad and regrettable situation because they Before they got involved with drugs they were people with a lot of talent, but unfortunately drugs destroyed their lives

while people addicted to alcohol and gambling tend to sell everything they have, they harm themselves and in a few cases harm other people around them, but they are rarely violent like drug addicts, and it is difficult to listen that a person joined a group of killers because he became addicted to gambling or became addicted to alcohol, but it has become normal to hear that a person addicted to drugs became a member of groups of killers

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November 30, 2023, 07:54:52 PM
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Between drugs and gambling, which one do you think is more addicting than the other?
My understanding is that these two things are the same in terms of addiction or addiction, gambling and drugs are two factors that can make humans addicted beyond limits, for example risks that can affect an individual's brain health.

Both of these things are more due to the facts that occur, it's just that the addiction caused by gambling is financial in nature, drugs are more about the physical feelings felt by those who are addicted, but both also tend to have a financial impact.

But the fact that we have seen is that drug addiction is more dangerous than gambling, drugs lead to mental damage while gambling can still be rehabilitated, if those who are addicted are highly addicted, so the conclusion is that drugs are more dangerous than gambling.

for me, both are detrimental to people but drug addiction is more dangerous also for me. because it can truly alter your mental and physical state if you got addicted. gambling on the other hand, will ruin your financial side and so your mental well-being.
drug addiction is different as it can literally change you as a person and is indeed fatal if someone got to the point of abusing or overdosing himself. also, if it already reached to the stage of having brain damage owed to drug addiction, would be hard to return to your original self as you already ruined your physical self. whereas, if a gambler changed his lifestyle and found a way out, he can be of his better version of himself and can live a normal life again.

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November 30, 2023, 08:13:20 PM
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Between drugs and gambling, which one do you think is more addicting than the other?
My understanding is that these two things are the same in terms of addiction or addiction, gambling and drugs are two factors that can make humans addicted beyond limits, for example risks that can affect an individual's brain health.

Both of these things are more due to the facts that occur, it's just that the addiction caused by gambling is financial in nature, drugs are more about the physical feelings felt by those who are addicted, but both also tend to have a financial impact.

But the fact that we have seen is that drug addiction is more dangerous than gambling, drugs lead to mental damage while gambling can still be rehabilitated, if those who are addicted are highly addicted, so the conclusion is that drugs are more dangerous than gambling.

for me, both are detrimental to people but drug addiction is more dangerous also for me. because it can truly alter your mental and physical state if you got addicted. gambling on the other hand, will ruin your financial side and so your mental well-being.
drug addiction is different as it can literally change you as a person and is indeed fatal if someone got to the point of abusing or overdosing himself. also, if it already reached to the stage of having brain damage owed to drug addiction, would be hard to return to your original self as you already ruined your physical self. whereas, if a gambler changed his lifestyle and found a way out, he can be of his better version of himself and can live a normal life again.
Drug addiction is really that more dangerous than with gambling addiction but in overall sense, these addictions would really be leading no good into your life. This is why there's no good choices among the two but rather it would really be that best that you should really be that avoiding it as much as you could because we know that it is really that hard once these addictions would really be
able to successfully will really be able to influence you. This is why it would really be that best that you should be mindful about on the things that you are dealing with so that you wont really be ending up on things which arent supposed to happen. Any form of addiction is never been good whether gambling or drugs then it isnt really that good at all.
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Between drugs and gambling, which one do you think is more addicting than the other? I have a good reason for asking this question, because there is something I saw not too long and I am doubting if anyone have seen the same thing, I am from a place where crack heads ( drugs addicts ) and also gambling addicts are all around, here is what I've seen.

I have seen crack heads more than responsible with there cash, than gambling addicts, this is what make me to ask you guys this question, drug junks are more responsible than gamblers, I have seen a gambling addict who spend 200 grand in under one and half hour on gambling, I've never seen a crack head done such before, not even on drugs.

I have seen a crack head who changed and when we had some chats he thank God in front of me, saying he is thankful that is addiction was on drugs and not gambling, he sounds so scary of getting addicted to gambling as he confirmed that gambling seems so much harder to quit.

He went on and say something about his friend who use 15 years on gambling and the friend isn't really sure how he will stop and the friend said that if he didn't stop it will kill him sooner or later, like he knew the danger lurking but he doesn't know how to stop, he isn't sure he will get better. The friend started telling him how the world will be better off without him, that's when they started locking him up, and the battle to change him when on for four years straight before he died from strange illness.

I was so scared with this story and It affected me for a while, I stopped gambling for a week because of what I heard from this man, his appearance is that of someone you won't want to listen to but what he went through is so eye opening that if other addicted gamblers hear from him it could change them, gambling addiction is really scary.


You are looking at it wrong.  Not trying to classify but I've never met a rich non risky "crackhead" so no way to know what they'd do with $200k.  The next is the health aspect, ypu can literally die one night from a Crack binge, not so much from gambling.  Is it more or less addicting I'd say that's on the individual.  No way to know collectively which one is worse.  I've seen recovering addicts succeed from both of them.  But if I hate to pick I would be smoking on a Crack pipe that's for sure.

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November 30, 2023, 08:35:40 PM
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Between drugs and gambling, which one do you think is more addicting than the other?

Both are highly addictive but I'm 100% sure that it's much easier to quit gambling than drugs because gambling doesn't hurt your body. You feel tired mentally and your thoughts wander towards gambling all day, but your body is fine. A drug addict on withdrawal feels sick. Can't eat, vomits, sweats, can't work, can't sleep, can't control shaking and so on. I'd rather go through gambling withdrawal any day.
Crackheads aren't more responsible when they're high and someone can rob them and even rape them without them knowing what happened.
I sincerely doubt your words. How can you be responsible when you're drugged?



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November 30, 2023, 09:20:29 PM
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 Even if online gambling is banned in a country, they still cannot stop gamblers who want to become addicted to gambling. This is a fact that they cannot remove from each individual casino player.

 Only we can change ourselves if we ourselves decide that we will change. Although it is really just a difficulty, if we are persistent, we can do it. It's the same with drug use; there's almost no difference, to be honest.
Yes, gamblers can still gamble even in secret places that only the gamblers know about. They share their gambling places in secret, and there may be special codes to find out whether they are a gambler who is a regular at that place or whether they are a beginner or even an undercover police officer.

You are right in saying that only we can change ourselves. But it requires strong intention and determination to be able to start changing it slowly. Everything must be done step by step, and if it is an addiction, there will be different methods that will be applied for each addiction, whether it is a gambling addiction or a drug addiction.
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I have seen crack heads more than responsible with there cash, than gambling addicts, this is what make me to ask you guys this question, drug junks are more responsible than gamblers, I have seen a gambling addict who spend 200 grand in under one and half hour on gambling, I've never seen a crack head done such before, not even on drugs.


That's not true at all, probably they seem to like being responsible because they need that money to buy pot/cok or whatever drug they are using and without it, they will be pissed as hell so definitely drug addiction is far deeper than you think because it creates chemical reactions in your body by a foreign substance and once you get used to it, it's going to be a hell to turn it around.

I am not supporting gambling addiction in any way but let me remind you that you need to know the actual consequences of substance abuse then your perspective will change for sure.

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December 01, 2023, 06:55:43 PM
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That's not true at all, probably they seem to like being responsible because they need that money to buy pot/cok or whatever drug they are using and without it, they will be pissed as hell so definitely drug addiction is far deeper than you think because it creates chemical reactions in your body by a foreign substance and once you get used to it, it's going to be a hell to turn it around.

I am not supporting gambling addiction in any way but let me remind you that you need to know the actual consequences of substance abuse then your perspective will change for sure.

You're hitting the nail in the head.

They're responsible and alert because they're not high and need to take care of their money because it leads to getting high. That's why they have periods when they'll "work" and periods when they get completely wasted. They'll go to work during the day, then get high in the evening and wake up the next day completely wasted, but ready to earn more money for the evening.

I wouldn't compare these two. People who are addicted to hard drugs destroy themselves. They can never be completely normal and healthy again. The drugs will always leave them damaged.
A gambling addict can become a normal person and live a long and healthy life.

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December 02, 2023, 02:08:53 AM
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I have seen crack heads more than responsible with there cash, than gambling addicts, this is what make me to ask you guys this question, drug junks are more responsible than gamblers, I have seen a gambling addict who spend 200 grand in under one and half hour on gambling, I've never seen a crack head done such before, not even on drugs.


That's not true at all, probably they seem to like being responsible because they need that money to buy pot/cok or whatever drug they are using and without it, they will be pissed as hell so definitely drug addiction is far deeper than you think because it creates chemical reactions in your body by a foreign substance and once you get used to it, it's going to be a hell to turn it around.

I am not supporting gambling addiction in any way but let me remind you that you need to know the actual consequences of substance abuse then your perspective will change for sure.
True! But what I think is that both addictions are not good. I don't know why the OP thinks drug addicts are much better than gambling addicts, but the truth is that they are both the worst. Are you serious about the fact that most crime-doers are under the influence of drugs? Ok, let's say they spend less money than gambling addicts, but drug addicts can commit crimes because they are not in the right minds. In short, both addictions don't have any good things in them; you can't compare them because they are both the worst. That's why there is a word "addiction" in drugs and gambling; it means it will not do anything good to you. I don't know why the OP thinks of that, but I don't want to judge, just give an honest opinion, because I have seen many news stories and witnessed many things that are caused by drug addicts. It can ruin a person's life, just like gambling addicts. This is not about the money they spend; it is all about what they do to themselves and to the people around them.

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The truth is we are all different and we all have our own stories. I know people who have been able to give up drugs, gambling, smoking, alcohol and much more.

Most likely the person who told you his story does not have enough willpower or he is satisfied with his life if he realizes that he has a serious problem with gambling, but does not want to get rid of this addiction.
I agree most addicted person are lacking the will power to even choose to stop their gambling habits and same might be the case with your friend story. Again for me, I think addiction is not something to joke around with and especially the two said addiction you actually highlighted because a drugs addicted gambler is even worse and I have seen some of these fellow in action, I mean imaging being addicted to gamble and aslo drugs, you could kill to get your hands on either of the two feelings and this particular type of case, even the person will power won't be enough to stop this act.

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I have seen crack heads more than responsible with there cash, than gambling addicts, this is what make me to ask you guys this question, drug junks are more responsible than gamblers, I have seen a gambling addict who spend 200 grand in under one and half hour on gambling, I've never seen a crack head done such before, not even on drugs.


You have a valid arguments even better than Drunkard and Womanizer  but let me tell you this .
it is indeed that Drug addict are better than Gambling addicts but that is if they will stick into drugs + liquor + woman , even those 3 combined won't make them lose amount being spent by gamblers.

But sorry to call this but most  drug abuser that I knew is also involved in Gambling , because some drugs even bring them Positive views and vibes that encouraged them to try and enjoy gambling.

so the bad effects is? they are not just in drugs but ended into all types of vices , but yeah you are good on that point and I must agree .









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I have seen crack heads more than responsible with there cash, than gambling addicts, this is what make me to ask you guys this question, drug junks are more responsible than gamblers, I have seen a gambling addict who spend 200 grand in under one and half hour on gambling, I've never seen a crack head done such before, not even on drugs.


You have a valid arguments even better than Drunkard and Womanizer  but let me tell you this .
it is indeed that Drug addict are better than Gambling addicts but that is if they will stick into drugs + liquor + woman , even those 3 combined won't make them lose amount being spent by gamblers.

But sorry to call this but most  drug abuser that I knew is also involved in Gambling , because some drugs even bring them Positive views and vibes that encouraged them to try and enjoy gambling.

so the bad effects is? they are not just in drugs but ended into all types of vices , but yeah you are good on that point and I must agree .

Well, I think that a gambling addict is bad for himself and too his family. He loses his own money and only his family and he himself will face the consequences of it and suffer. He is not bad for the society.

When it comes to the person who is drug addicted, he may not be in his senses after taking drugs. He may act violently in public and can damage the people or public property. The same goes for the person who is drunk. How many times we have seen a Drunkard person driving fast and having an accident on the road?

Keeping this aspect in mind, I think the Drunkards and those involved in different types of drugs are more dangerous for society.

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I don't think it's a generalized subject about gambling as more harmful than drug addiction, some feel it the other way around others feel that drug is more harmful and dangerous because they destroy the mind and the body, in fact so many dies of drug overdose because the body cannot keep up, and some drug addicts commit crimes because their minds are clouded by the drugs they take.
Both addiction are bad for health and finances we cannot make one better than the other, some can survive the drugs, and some can survive gambling if we have a friend who are in any of the two we need to do everything to help them and not make a comparison.
In my opinion, these two things can both ruin a person's life from the start before they introduce these two things, some people who are addicted to gambling can commit crimes when they don't have the funds to do the gambling they want and those who are addicted to drugs of course so too.
Helping those who have experienced addiction to this is not an easy thing to do if they themselves do not have the desire to leave what they are doing.

Yes I also agree with what you said, these two things can ruin someone's life because each of these two things has an equally dangerous impact that can also harm them. There is nothing better than these two things, both of them will harm them in many ways, drugs can harm their health which will damage their mentality, mindset and others also they will experience depression which might make them die because of drug addiction.

Not much different from drug addiction, gambling addiction is also the same, it will harm many things, time, money, relationships, mindset, and maybe also with their health. So it is better to keep than to cure, because if you are addicted to these two things or one of them, it will be difficult to cure it.

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December 02, 2023, 12:21:18 PM
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I don't think it's a generalized subject about gambling as more harmful than drug addiction, some feel it the other way around others feel that drug is more harmful and dangerous because they destroy the mind and the body, in fact so many dies of drug overdose because the body cannot keep up, and some drug addicts commit crimes because their minds are clouded by the drugs they take.
Both addiction are bad for health and finances we cannot make one better than the other, some can survive the drugs, and some can survive gambling if we have a friend who are in any of the two we need to do everything to help them and not make a comparison.
In my opinion, these two things can both ruin a person's life from the start before they introduce these two things, some people who are addicted to gambling can commit crimes when they don't have the funds to do the gambling they want and those who are addicted to drugs of course so too.
Helping those who have experienced addiction to this is not an easy thing to do if they themselves do not have the desire to leave what they are doing.

Yes I also agree with what you said, these two things can ruin someone's life because each of these two things has an equally dangerous impact that can also harm them. There is nothing better than these two things, both of them will harm them in many ways, drugs can harm their health which will damage their mentality, mindset and others also they will experience depression which might make them die because of drug addiction.

Not much different from drug addiction, gambling addiction is also the same, it will harm many things, time, money, relationships, mindset, and maybe also with their health. So it is better to keep than to cure, because if you are addicted to these two things or one of them, it will be difficult to cure it.
When it comes to addiction then there's no such thing about being good or much better because both things could really be destructive in someones life and this is why it would really be that always wise that you should really know on when to stop and control out yourself on the time that you are experiencing such thing but we know that gambling addiction is really that much more destructive onto someone who had been affected to it
not because it doesnt only destroy you financially but also it could destroy your body on which this is something that you should really be avoiding in the first place. Better not to make yourself getting involved specially with drugs because once this thing do kicks in then it would really be that too hard to get out since your body would really be basically searching for it.

Im not saying that gambling addiction is much better but we know that this is something that it is bad too and its always been best that you should really be doing things in moderation if you dont
like for yourself to get that in huge problems in life specially on finances. So its up into your own decision since its your life though but with common sense
then you could be able to determine on whats good or bad.

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December 02, 2023, 12:29:44 PM
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I have seen crack heads more than responsible with there cash, than gambling addicts, this is what make me to ask you guys this question, drug junks are more responsible than gamblers, I have seen a gambling addict who spend 200 grand in under one and half hour on gambling, I've never seen a crack head done such before, not even on drugs.


That's not true at all, probably they seem to like being responsible because they need that money to buy pot/cok or whatever drug they are using and without it, they will be pissed as hell so definitely drug addiction is far deeper than you think because it creates chemical reactions in your body by a foreign substance and once you get used to it, it's going to be a hell to turn it around.

I am not supporting gambling addiction in any way but let me remind you that you need to know the actual consequences of substance abuse then your perspective will change for sure.
True! But what I think is that both addictions are not good. I don't know why the OP thinks drug addicts are much better than gambling addicts, but the truth is that they are both the worst. Are you serious about the fact that most crime-doers are under the influence of drugs? Ok, let's say they spend less money than gambling addicts, but drug addicts can commit crimes because they are not in the right minds. In short, both addictions don't have any good things in them; you can't compare them because they are both the worst. That's why there is a word "addiction" in drugs and gambling; it means it will not do anything good to you. I don't know why the OP thinks of that, but I don't want to judge, just give an honest opinion, because I have seen many news stories and witnessed many things that are caused by drug addicts. It can ruin a person's life, just like gambling addicts. This is not about the money they spend; it is all about what they do to themselves and to the people around them.
Isnt it interesting how the mind looks for multiple ways to escape? Substance abuse usually comes from wanting to avoid reality, while gambling addiction could be caused by a sense of risk and possible reward. Basically, both show a deep-seated human desire for something more than the everyday.

Criminal behavior and drug abuse have a complicated connection. Yes, many crimes are committed under the influence of drugs, but does this not highlight a broader societal issue? These people dont always have support systems, so they turn to dangerous activities to feel better. There are many reasons why people become addicted, including poverty, mental health problems, and unfair social conditions.

We should therefore show empathy and help. Our society needs to offer better ways to deal with problems and get better, not just judgment.

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December 02, 2023, 12:45:24 PM
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I have seen crack heads more than responsible with there cash, than gambling addicts, this is what make me to ask you guys this question, drug junks are more responsible than gamblers, I have seen a gambling addict who spend 200 grand in under one and half hour on gambling, I've never seen a crack head done such before, not even on drugs.


You have a valid arguments even better than Drunkard and Womanizer  but let me tell you this .
it is indeed that Drug addict are better than Gambling addicts but that is if they will stick into drugs + liquor + woman , even those 3 combined won't make them lose amount being spent by gamblers.

But sorry to call this but most  drug abuser that I knew is also involved in Gambling , because some drugs even bring them Positive views and vibes that encouraged them to try and enjoy gambling.

so the bad effects is? they are not just in drugs but ended into all types of vices , but yeah you are good on that point and I must agree .

Well, I think that a gambling addict is bad for himself and too his family. He loses his own money and only his family and he himself will face the consequences of it and suffer. He is not bad for the society.

When it comes to the person who is drug addicted, he may not be in his senses after taking drugs. He may act violently in public and can damage the people or public property. The same goes for the person who is drunk. How many times we have seen a Drunkard person driving fast and having an accident on the road?

Keeping this aspect in mind, I think the Drunkards and those involved in different types of drugs are more dangerous for society.

Not only bad for theirself or his family but also to the people near them since they might develop a bad behaviour where they stole something just to use it for their gambling activities. And this is really bad if they go this far since we know how huge the consequences for doing that and this could turn all to more worst situation that they can't imagine.

Although it maybe come with same attitude with addicted on drugs but I think this is not the right comparison since we all know taking drugs is more worst than that since gambling addiction can get aid more easier than that. That's why its important for us to know that both addiction is bad that's why we should separate ourselves from people experiencing that so we can think more clear and will not get dictated by what we called peer pressure to try those things and destroy our lives.

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