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December 02, 2023, 01:05:42 PM
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I have seen crack heads more than responsible with there cash, than gambling addicts, this is what make me to ask you guys this question, drug junks are more responsible than gamblers, I have seen a gambling addict who spend 200 grand in under one and half hour on gambling, I've never seen a crack head done such before, not even on drugs.


You have a valid arguments even better than Drunkard and Womanizer  but let me tell you this .
it is indeed that Drug addict are better than Gambling addicts but that is if they will stick into drugs + liquor + woman , even those 3 combined won't make them lose amount being spent by gamblers.

But sorry to call this but most  drug abuser that I knew is also involved in Gambling , because some drugs even bring them Positive views and vibes that encouraged them to try and enjoy gambling.

so the bad effects is? they are not just in drugs but ended into all types of vices , but yeah you are good on that point and I must agree .

The effect of both depends on which area of life that we think is affected most or worsely so. Is it to the finance or to our health and we know that health and good living is above money. I believe if someone is taking in substance that will keep destroying their organs then the person is causing more internal and external harm to himself. Physically, a drug addict may look more unkept than a gambling addict because of the destruction of the organ.

The aspect that I'm looking towards is the health not the finance. Moreover, you will have a drug addict also being a gambler but you may not find a gambler also embarking on drug.

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December 02, 2023, 01:27:18 PM
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I don't know why the OP thinks drug addicts are much better than gambling addicts, but the truth is that they are both the worst.

Addiction is just bad and I accept it even if someone is addicted to studying it is going to affect his mental health but anyway what I tried to address is drug addiction is way dangerous so finding a reason to say it is better than gambling addiction doesn't seem right so tried to bring in the real life consequences of drug addiction which will give the clear picture to OP that he can't justify drug addiction is better.

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December 02, 2023, 01:56:47 PM
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I don't know why the OP thinks drug addicts are much better than gambling addicts, but the truth is that they are both the worst.

Addiction is just bad and I accept it even if someone is addicted to studying it is going to affect his mental health but anyway what I tried to address is drug addiction is way dangerous so finding a reason to say it is better than gambling addiction doesn't seem right so tried to bring in the real life consequences of drug addiction which will give the clear picture to OP that he can't justify drug addiction is better.
And in some ways, gambling addiction can be compared to drug addiction and both are equally dangerous and detrimental to users.
And both have the power to damage or disarm financially, emotionally and mentally and also damage health if both suffer from chronic addiction.
And both involve the brain and several body organs which can be damaged as a result of both addictions, and neither is better than the two because both are equally dangerous and can harm and suffer the user.

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December 02, 2023, 02:04:57 PM
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Addiction to me is in one form and for that,  any one form of addiction can lead to a devastating result and there is no limit to the danger of over-involvement in both,  so for sure gambling addictions seems to be easier and less harmful to be compared to drug addiction health-wise.

So for sure,  there is nothing like a drug being the better one since some drug addicts sometimes have health complications as a result of the drug usage.
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December 02, 2023, 04:41:22 PM
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I have seen crack heads more than responsible with there cash, than gambling addicts, this is what make me to ask you guys this question, drug junks are more responsible than gamblers, I have seen a gambling addict who spend 200 grand in under one and half hour on gambling, I've never seen a crack head done such before, not even on drugs.
Firstly @ OP, you should ask individually what their aim and objectives are on their journey before the habitants addiction then you would understand which is preferable and responsible.
Also have an insight that without any of both being addicted probably if they are all responsible, which is more profitable?
Then you would personally figure sensible reasons for the attractions of aim and what their objectives are before they got extraordinary.

I can tell you that all gamblers aims and objectives is to multiply their bets but at some points of excitements winning (profits) or depressions of their losses which they are striving to recover in other to count either zero lost or accounts profits is what is the caused of their milestones of being addicted.
While drugs connection (drugs consumers/intakers) have zero positive aims and objectives if not the intentions of just feeling mentally disordered/abnormal with a zero positive profit as an outcome income.
There is absolutely no sensible significant reasons that triggers the motions to drugs addicts if not being drugs abused that stil doesn't still proffer any form of buyable reasons.
Drugs addicts people are useless to the societies where as they spends their monies on mare substance (drugs) that has them no profits and not even a healthy lives.
Imagine ordinary cigarettes that the World Health Organization (WHO) is warned that its smokers are liable to die young yet people who smokes are ignored by the warning.  
So I can say that drug addicts doesn't only spends their monies of valueless substances (drugs) but also gambling with their lives.
Now you see even drugs addicts has part to contributing to gambling at where they are not to offer profitable returns but loosing of its lives, monies and the mental disorderliness.

Even if an addicted gambler looses a $1,000,000 in just an hour at the gambling table depending on his budgets (stakes). Atleast its aim was to make profits only that the table went against him  meanwhile..... There are drug addicts who also consumes the same rate @ 1,000,000 at a spot in just an hour dependent on the quality of drugs with a total of no health gain rather than health lost and no objective of making more money.

There are certain person's of responsible gamblers so can i ask if are there also responsible drugs intakers if not drugs abusers? And on what valuabilities goals?

I have seen a crack head who changed and when we had some chats he thank God in front of me, saying he is thankful that is addiction was on drugs and not gambling, he sounds so scary of getting addicted to gambling as he confirmed that gambling seems so much harder to quit.
I think that was were his caused of drug addictions was nurtured from. Sometimes we do the wrong things but because we feel other person's does higher wrongs than ours so we just seize to quit from our wrong deeds. This is just were your guys drugs addiction was inspired. He never believe his drugs intake was a wrong habit simply because he could see some gambling addicts in the streets and has used them to console himself that he was better than some other sets of addictions without knowing the true volume ratio of his set of addiction (drug addicts).
Psychological, that of your friend felt scary of being addicted to any form of additions such as to the drugs and the gambling addictions so the fact that he is healed and changed from his set of addiction, he is being inflated with fear of being addicted again so he would just keep off from any of it that will get him addicted again both the tried and untried sorts of addition.

He went on and say something about his friend who use 15 years on gambling and the friend isn't really sure how he will stop and the friend said that if he didn't stop it will kill him sooner or later, like he knew the danger lurking but he doesn't know how to stop, he isn't sure he will get better. The friend started telling him how the world will be better off without him, that's when they started locking him up, and the battle to change him when on for four years straight before he died from strange illness.
Deactivating oneself from any forms of addiction is depended on individual readiness and submission to quit the habit (addiction).
Letting go an addiction is come with a 💯 dedication and must be mean also one would only keep fluctuating going OFF and ON along the lines. This is basically not how easy to it is staying away from an addiction.

I was so scared with this story and It affected me for a while, I stopped gambling for a week because of what I heard from this man, his appearance is that of someone you won't want to listen to but what he went through is so eye opening that if other addicted gamblers hear from him it could change them, gambling addiction is really scary.
I guess you could see how easy for you to just take control of yourself? By a mare story from a drug addict you could stay aware from gambling for about a week but it is broadly written (smokers are liable to die young) yet they just say... If I have to die let me die. Why? Simply because they are even irresponsible to their lives.
If you could stay away from gambling with just such a short and shock story then it is believed that a mean addicted gambler who really want to quit gambling would quit.

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December 02, 2023, 05:26:38 PM
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I don't know why the OP thinks drug addicts are much better than gambling addicts, but the truth is that they are both the worst.

Addiction is just bad and I accept it even if someone is addicted to studying it is going to affect his mental health but anyway what I tried to address is drug addiction is way dangerous so finding a reason to say it is better than gambling addiction doesn't seem right so tried to bring in the real life consequences of drug addiction which will give the clear picture to OP that he can't justify drug addiction is better.
And in some ways, gambling addiction can be compared to drug addiction and both are equally dangerous and detrimental to users.
And both have the power to damage or disarm financially, emotionally and mentally and also damage health if both suffer from chronic addiction.
And both involve the brain and several body organs which can be damaged as a result of both addictions, and neither is better than the two because both are equally dangerous and can harm and suffer the user.
Addiction itself is a bad thing 'coz it means you are dependent to it at some point and that you won't be able to function well without that thing you are addicted to. Either you are a drug addict or gambling addict, both won't do anything good to all of us. Once you reach that level of addiction that means you'll need professional help to get rid of it. If you percieve drug addiction as better 'coz it won't cost you that much then you're wrong. If you are aware or if you have watched documentaries of drug addicts they would be making a way just to satisfy their drive to do that particular thing. Just seems to differ with the amounts but has the same value. I view it as $1k worth of drugs and $1m gambling loss. Both has no end unless you act upon it so be careful.

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December 03, 2023, 01:15:17 AM
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I don't know why the OP thinks drug addicts are much better than gambling addicts, but the truth is that they are both the worst.

Addiction is just bad and I accept it even if someone is addicted to studying it is going to affect his mental health but anyway what I tried to address is drug addiction is way dangerous so finding a reason to say it is better than gambling addiction doesn't seem right so tried to bring in the real life consequences of drug addiction which will give the clear picture to OP that he can't justify drug addiction is better.
Comparing drug addiction and gambling addiction is not true, both of them are equally bad.
I will explain it a little from my point of view, gambling addiction spends a lot of money in those few hours because they cannot control themselves well. Gambling addicts can take out loans just to continue their gambling activities continuously and have the ambition to win big.
Drug addicts also spend a lot of money buying drugs to fulfill their addiction. If they don't buy it just once they will experience restlessness, excessive worry, and get tired easily.
So in theory both are equally detrimental mentally and financially. Maybe for someone who is familiar with drugs, drugs can provide the benefit of calm and not getting tired easily, but over time it will worsen the kidneys and can cause dangerous diseases, while gambling does not cause serious illnesses but gambling addiction can causes mental disorders that will make you crazy and mental weakness can lead to the desire to commit suicide if the gambling addict is starting to get tired of life because every day his mental condition gets worse due to his addiction.
The conclusion is that there is nothing better than gambling addiction. Addiction or anything in excess is definitely not good.

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Between drugs and gambling, which one do you think is more addicting than the other? I have a good reason for asking this question, because there is something I saw not too long and I am doubting if anyone have seen the same thing, I am from a place where crack heads ( drugs addicts ) and also gambling addicts are all around, here is what I've seen.
I was so scared with this story and It affected me for a while, I stopped gambling for a week because of what I heard from this man, his appearance is that of someone you won't want to listen to but what he went through is so eye opening that if other addicted gamblers hear from him it could change them, gambling addiction is really scary.

Gambling addicts are not only dangerous, gambling addicts are seriously dangerous. A gambling addict can never make his family happy. All his life's earnings are wasted only by gambling. When a person becomes addicted to gambling, he gradually becomes addicted to other addictions. Gambling addiction can turn into drug addiction and drug addiction can be described as gambling addiction. Although there are no casino platforms or gambling bars in my country and all the gambling I have seen from the gamblers who are physically gambling on the streets in my country live a life that no one would ever want to live. It is very painful to see his family living like this. So a gambling addict is terrible for a village, terrible for a country and even more terrible for a family.

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The problem is that addictions to gambling or drugs both belong to the category of having a low quality life, because each has the nature of destroying people's lives. Similarly, you can imagine that tests with results of 0 or 1 point are still unsatisfactory.

Of course, in life there will be exceptions, such as the marijuana addiction of some friends that I know, but they are still guides to carry out all actions seriously, and even people who achieve success in life may also have been or become addicted to some other stimulants. And gambling will also have very good players, so the problem is that those different people still have enough ability to control external things. And I think it's the mental strength that makes them able to control, or rather, live with, social evils without being affected by them.









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December 03, 2023, 01:42:26 AM
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For me any kind of addiction is bad. Although the ones OP is discussing are worst addiction. Gambling destroys finance of an addict and drug addiction destroys health. Ultimately both cause big issues with the family of addicts. In the end all addicts commit crime go to the extreme to satisfy thier addiction. An addict is an addict regardless of the kind of addiction they have.
Nothing positive can be expected from gambling rather nothing but family turmoil comes from gambling. A gambling addict does not hesitate to do any criminal activity just to give priority to his addiction without any regard for family peace and economic status. When a gambler is in a financial crisis, he commits more serious crimes, particularly heinous crimes such as theft and murder to finance his gambling. To manage gambling money in rural areas, many serious crimes of violence against women, including divorce, are being organized. Therefore, gambling cannot bring any positive results in our social context.

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December 03, 2023, 01:55:51 AM
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Between drugs and gambling, which one do you think is more addicting than the other? I have a good reason for asking this question, because there is something I saw not too long and I am doubting if anyone have seen the same thing, I am from a place where crack heads ( drugs addicts ) and also gambling addicts are all around, here is what I've seen.

I have seen crack heads more than responsible with there cash, than gambling addicts, this is what make me to ask you guys this question, drug junks are more responsible than gamblers, I have seen a gambling addict who spend 200 grand in under one and half hour on gambling, I've never seen a crack head done such before, not even on drugs.



I was so scared with this story and It affected me for a while, I stopped gambling for a week because of what I heard from this man, his appearance is that of someone you won't want to listen to but what he went through is so eye opening that if other addicted gamblers hear from him it could change them, gambling addiction is really scary.

Neither are good but they are different, it is true that due to the limits of how much drugs can be consumed before someone were to die, gambling may seem more dangerous as you can spend all your money in a matter of minutes.

However there is a literal survivorship bias here, you are talking to someone that was at least smart enough to not die from an overdose, however there are many people that die each year because of that reason, and that is without taking into account the huge side effects they will have to deal with for the rest of their lives, so make no mistake, as bad as a gambling addiction can be, becoming addicted to any drug seems way worse as you are risking your life and health instead of your money.

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December 03, 2023, 02:07:55 AM
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I am not sure what to say, to be honest. Firstly, you are supposed to know that being addicted to drugs and being addicted to gambling are pretty different for one another.
Someone addicted to drugs (specially very hard drugs like cocaine or crack cocaine) quickly develop a physical dependence to the consumption of those substances, to the point of numbing their senses and way of thinking.
On the other hand, gambling addiction is a behavioral disorder which takes more time to develop and whike it can be certainly trouble to quit ans treat, I doubt it is more problematic than crack cocaine addiction is.

Regardless of what anyone tells you (specially people who deals with drugs) you should always do your own research about those topics, so nobody will change your perception of things.

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I don't think it's a generalized subject about gambling as more harmful than drug addiction, some feel it the other way around others feel that drug is more harmful and dangerous because they destroy the mind and the body, in fact so many dies of drug overdose because the body cannot keep up, and some drug addicts commit crimes because their minds are clouded by the drugs they take.
Both addiction are bad for health and finances we cannot make one better than the other, some can survive the drugs, and some can survive gambling if we have a friend who are in any of the two we need to do everything to help them and not make a comparison.
In my opinion, these two things can both ruin a person's life from the start before they introduce these two things, some people who are addicted to gambling can commit crimes when they don't have the funds to do the gambling they want and those who are addicted to drugs of course so too.
Helping those who have experienced addiction to this is not an easy thing to do if they themselves do not have the desire to leave what they are doing.

Yes I also agree with what you said, these two things can ruin someone's life because each of these two things has an equally dangerous impact that can also harm them. There is nothing better than these two things, both of them will harm them in many ways, drugs can harm their health which will damage their mentality, mindset and others also they will experience depression which might make them die because of drug addiction.

Not much different from drug addiction, gambling addiction is also the same, it will harm many things, time, money, relationships, mindset, and maybe also with their health. So it is better to keep than to cure, because if you are addicted to these two things or one of them, it will be difficult to cure it.
When it comes to addiction then there's no such thing about being good or much better because both things could really be destructive in someones life and this is why it would really be that always wise that you should really know on when to stop and control out yourself on the time that you are experiencing such thing but we know that gambling addiction is really that much more destructive onto someone who had been affected to it
not because it doesnt only destroy you financially but also it could destroy your body on which this is something that you should really be avoiding in the first place. Better not to make yourself getting involved specially with drugs because once this thing do kicks in then it would really be that too hard to get out since your body would really be basically searching for it.

Im not saying that gambling addiction is much better but we know that this is something that it is bad too and its always been best that you should really be doing things in moderation if you dont
like for yourself to get that in huge problems in life specially on finances. So its up into your own decision since its your life though but with common sense
then you could be able to determine on whats good or bad.

I also think that addiction to these two things will destroy them financially, because these two things are also related to their finances. In my opinion these two things are not much different in terms of their impact, harming yourself yes, in terms of health yes, financially obviously, harming others can be. There is not much difference between these two things, it is unfortunate that if they are addicted to these two things it feels better that they do not have a sane or crazy mind. Gambling addiction will harm them in many ways, and I think everyone who already knows about gambling also knows the harmful effects of gambling addiction.

Also drug addiction, just like addiction is also all bound to be clear about the harmful effects that will befall someone if they are already addicted to these two things. I can't imagine if any of my family members are directly addicted to these two things, even if they have a lot of money I don't think it's necessary to become addicted to these two things if they want pleasure because there are also many other ways or things that can come to themselves, not by being addicted to gambling or drugs.

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December 03, 2023, 02:22:10 PM
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For me any kind of addiction is bad. Although the ones OP is discussing are worst addiction. Gambling destroys finance of an addict and drug addiction destroys health. Ultimately both cause big issues with the family of addicts. In the end all addicts commit crime go to the extreme to satisfy thier addiction. An addict is an addict regardless of the kind of addiction they have.
Nothing positive can be expected from gambling rather nothing but family turmoil comes from gambling. A gambling addict does not hesitate to do any criminal activity just to give priority to his addiction without any regard for family peace and economic status. When a gambler is in a financial crisis, he commits more serious crimes, particularly heinous crimes such as theft and murder to finance his gambling. To manage gambling money in rural areas, many serious crimes of violence against women, including divorce, are being organized. Therefore, gambling cannot bring any positive results in our social context.

Both addiction isn't accepted in any society, although the drug addict seem to be more critical in the eyes of the people, but gambling addicts also suffer from mental health. I was having an argument with a forum member who thought that drug addictions affects the physical body and must be attended to by the government. And gambling, which erupts mental illness or disorder shouldn't be looked into, the argument wasn't sound and I felt like the member needs to understand that both illnesses affects the brain and body. If a person is mentally ill, they'll definitely suffer physical pains too and vice versa. The both requires money to get, and while addicted, most of them would run out of money. Thereby, causing the addicts to venture into activities, legal or illicit, to finance their bad habit. On the long run, it'll lead them into a poor performance in other important roles of life. Hence, the crime they'll commit won't differ too much. Since the both parties require money. Nobody can get drugs on credits neither will they gamble with no cash. And they lead a life that look like they must gamble to breath or survive on earth. It's quite a difficult time. And family needs to hold firm of their wards who are addicts, to avoid losing out everything they've worked hard to benefit.

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December 03, 2023, 02:53:15 PM
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No matter how bad the situation is, never think gambling is a source of money. When you're struggle in financial and want to make more money, then there's nothing wrong to quit gambling for a while. Just focus until you achieve a comfort zone, then you can try to back become a gambler.

It's not about drug addiction or gambling addiction, you shouldn't fall into one of them if you have a choice to avoid that.

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December 03, 2023, 03:19:54 PM
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For me any kind of addiction is bad. Although the ones OP is discussing are worst addiction. Gambling destroys finance of an addict and drug addiction destroys health. Ultimately both cause big issues with the family of addicts. In the end all addicts commit crime go to the extreme to satisfy thier addiction. An addict is an addict regardless of the kind of addiction they have.
Nothing positive can be expected from gambling rather nothing but family turmoil comes from gambling. A gambling addict does not hesitate to do any criminal activity just to give priority to his addiction without any regard for family peace and economic status. When a gambler is in a financial crisis, he commits more serious crimes, particularly heinous crimes such as theft and murder to finance his gambling. To manage gambling money in rural areas, many serious crimes of violence against women, including divorce, are being organized. Therefore, gambling cannot bring any positive results in our social context.
The financial strain caused by gambling addiction can indeed result in criminal activities, because people may resort to theft or other illegal means to fund their habits. This jeopardizes not only them self but also poses a threat to the safety and security of others in the community. The mention of crimes such as theft and murder highlights the extreme measures some individuals may take when trapped in the cycle of addiction and financial desperation.

The toll on family relationships, including divorce and domestic issues, is another grim aspect of the social impact of gambling. The societies need to address the issue of gambling addiction. This can play a crucial role in mitigating the negative consequences associated with addicted gambler's negative behavior. Those all underscores the need for a comprehensive approach to tackle the social challenges posed by gambling, including measures to prevent addiction and address the wider societal implications of problem gambling.

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December 03, 2023, 03:37:23 PM
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No matter how bad the situation is, never think gambling is a source of money. When you're struggle in financial and want to make more money, then there's nothing wrong to quit gambling for a while. Just focus until you achieve a comfort zone, then you can try to back become a gambler.
Quitting gambling for some time because of financial problems is not a bad idea. It might be difficult to avoid gambling but it is beneficial especially if you have discovered that betting is one of the activities that drain your finances. Some people have become so used to gambling that they don't know when to give themselves a break. Taking a break from gambling gives us the privilege of evaluating our gambling life, identifying faults and correcting our shortcomings. But when one sees gambling as a major source of income it could even lead to borrowing because we assume that we are investing instead of having fun.

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It's not about drug addiction or gambling addiction, you shouldn't fall into one of them if you have a choice to avoid that.
No form of addiction is better than another. Food addiction has led to several health problems and even death. The impact of drug addiction on finances and health is also severe, gambling addiction has also caused harm in the lives of many people. So it is better to have total control of any activity you engage in.

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December 03, 2023, 04:28:23 PM
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No form of addiction is better than another. Food addiction has led to several health problems and even death. The impact of drug addiction on finances and health is also severe, gambling addiction has also caused harm in the lives of many people. So it is better to have total control of any activity you engage in.
You are right. The intensity of an addiction will vary from individual to individual. There are severe addictions on gambling, drugs or food, and they are all equally bad and harmful due to their severity, and consequently their impact on the life of the addicted one, who will face social, physical and psychic prejudices. Some of them die from health diseases, others deteriorate the state of mind, going delusional, aggressive or depressed and others go bankrupted. All these potential consequences are connected and can happen independently or following each other.

OP tries to paint gambling as the biggest evil and drugs usage as a minor one. However, drugs usage is a serious issue and can lead its users to develop serious diseases like schizophrenia. There are studies which also show the increasement in cases of autism among drugs users' children.

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December 03, 2023, 04:36:31 PM
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The effect of both depends on which area of life that we think is affected most or worsely so. Is it to the finance or to our health and we know that health and good living is above money. I believe if someone is taking in substance that will keep destroying their organs then the person is causing more internal and external harm to himself. Physically, a drug addict may look more unkept than a gambling addict because of the destruction of the organ.

Not saying the mental state of the person.  To much intoxication may affect the way a person think or communicate with their surrounding.  I have seen lots of drug addict in my place losing their sanity, probably because of the chemical they take in.

I agree with @OP that gambling addict are more loose when it comes to finance spending than a drug addict because, a drug addict always reserve his money to buy cracks.

The aspect that I'm looking towards is the health not the finance. Moreover, you will have a drug addict also being a gambler but you may not find a gambler also embarking on drug.

Gambling addicts also harm their health.  Imagine a gambling addict playing almost 24/7 due to uncontrolled urge to gamble.  It is that, gambling activities takes long time to take effect on ones health unlike drug addicts since drug addicts are taking unwelcome substance in their body.
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December 03, 2023, 04:57:17 PM
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No matter how bad the situation is, never think gambling is a source of money. When you're struggle in financial and want to make more money, then there's nothing wrong to quit gambling for a while. Just focus until you achieve a comfort zone, then you can try to back become a gambler.

It's not about drug addiction or gambling addiction, you shouldn't fall into one of them if you have a choice to avoid that.

Gambling shouldn't be used as one of the distractions in life when you are facing many problems. Not only that it could affect you financially as well mentally and emotionally. Some people might say that they are having fun when they are gambling, which is fine as long as they gamble responsibly and it doesn't affect themselves and their families. When you are struggling financially, gambling shouldn't be one of the things that you will have to think about as the source of money, cause not only it can worsen your situation but there's a point that you would be in debt in some casinos. There are a lot of things as an alternative to distraction as well as a source of money that are much more legal and better, I am not saying gambling is illegal but it is really open for everyone cause casinos don't care if you would put all your money in their casino as they would benefit more, even the government cause casino is one of the tax sources of them.

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