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December 05, 2023, 08:33:15 PM
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Between drugs and gambling, which one do you think is more addicting than the other? I have a good reason for asking this question, because there is something I saw not too long and I am doubting if anyone have seen the same thing, I am from a place where crack heads ( drugs addicts ) and also gambling addicts are all around, here is what I've seen.

I have seen crack heads more than responsible with there cash, than gambling addicts, this is what make me to ask you guys this question, drug junks are more responsible than gamblers, I have seen a gambling addict who spend 200 grand in under one and half hour on gambling, I've never seen a crack head done such before, not even on drugs.

I have seen a crack head who changed and when we had some chats he thank God in front of me, saying he is thankful that is addiction was on drugs and not gambling, he sounds so scary of getting addicted to gambling as he confirmed that gambling seems so much harder to quit.

He went on and say something about his friend who use 15 years on gambling and the friend isn't really sure how he will stop and the friend said that if he didn't stop it will kill him sooner or later, like he knew the danger lurking but he doesn't know how to stop, he isn't sure he will get better. The friend started telling him how the world will be better off without him, that's when they started locking him up, and the battle to change him when on for four years straight before he died from strange illness.

I was so scared with this story and It affected me for a while, I stopped gambling for a week because of what I heard from this man, his appearance is that of someone you won't want to listen to but what he went through is so eye opening that if other addicted gamblers hear from him it could change them, gambling addiction is really scary.

You're talking about the ways and means that people have to spend money, which is a false comparison really. If someone was addicted to crack, they had access to $200k and suddenly that was the cost of their next hit, then they would likely exchange that sum of money to meet their fix. Both can be devastating at the far end of the spectrum, but gamblers - unless they are super rich - don't find it easy to put together that sort of money, they're often scrambling together small amounts. Each addiction can spend equal amounts over a life time, but beyond the mental dependency there is actually physical withdrawal outcomes which are quite severe for a drug addict which may force them to take more extreme measures to earn enough money to make that condition subside.

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December 06, 2023, 01:50:07 AM
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No form of addiction is better than another. Food addiction has led to several health problems and even death. The impact of drug addiction on finances and health is also severe, gambling addiction has also caused harm in the lives of many people. So it is better to have total control of any activity you engage in.
You are right. The intensity of an addiction will vary from individual to individual. There are severe addictions on gambling, drugs or food, and they are all equally bad and harmful due to their severity, and consequently their impact on the life of the addicted one, who will face social, physical and psychic prejudices. Some of them die from health diseases, others deteriorate the state of mind, going delusional, aggressive or depressed and others go bankrupted. All these potential consequences are connected and can happen independently or following each other.

OP tries to paint gambling as the biggest evil and drugs usage as a minor one. However, drugs usage is a serious issue and can lead its users to develop serious diseases like schizophrenia. There are studies which also show the increasement in cases of autism among drugs users' children.
In my opinion, all types of addiction are not good, whether it is illegal drug addiction, food addiction, gambling addiction. All of these have their own negative impact on the health of internal organs, mental and financial and what is worse is that diseases like the ones you mentioned will have fatal consequences for oneself therefore we must be able to avoid things that too excessive so as not to experience addiction because of all this type of addiction is definitely bad.

Drugs are a serious problem that cannot be compared with gambling because their uses are different and have different levels of risk, but they have something in common, namely that they are equally detrimental to oneself. Drug addiction is no better than gambling addiction @OP must be able to understand it wisely.

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December 06, 2023, 09:07:18 AM
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This is not a fair comparison, because crack heads do spend money on drugs too, the funny thing is they don't feel right in their system unless they take the drugs, and running out of drugs is something they can't live with, they would rather go broke than not have the drug in their system.

Maybe the crackheads you see, but crack heads can be much worse than addicted gamblers, been a drug addict is way scary, because it involves their health life style, they only way drugs running in their gains and nothing else, that's why you will see some of the turning into a stick and have massive loss of weight.

Drugs feels good for them than eating, so to me there is no different in addiction, it's something that's generally bad, what can you advice a crack head that he will listen to you? If he gets better the next them he will tell you that you never advice him, they easily lose their head due to the drugs but gamblers isn't this cruel to themselves, they only waste money on casino games.

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December 06, 2023, 04:49:05 PM
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Gambling is a drug itself (just like music). Two things people don’t tend to associate with being drugs, but they technically are. They both can/do alter brain chemistry just like traditional “drugs” and can be highly addictive. Personally I’d rather be addicted to gambling than crack. Gambling may make you go broke, but it’s not destroying your body as much as crack. Nor is it nearly as illegal in most places. Everything in moderation.

Sure everything in moderation. The problem is those hard drugs people are talking about here in this thread can easily make people addicted to them even with a single dose or taste. It is not like gambling or music, which one should need to progressibly partake in them to get seriously hooked. Actually, Crack is specially infamous because that specifical property it has to make people addicted in the first taste.

So, I agree with you. It is okey to enjoy things with moderation: alcohol, gambling, junk food, Sugar, coffee. But when comes to opioids and cocaine/crack, it is better just to stay the hell out/away from them.

Once you taste drugs like this, the people you are with you are going to be sticking it to their minds that you are among them and will always invite you whenever they party. It only takes one Yes to these kinds of people and you are hooked and part of the club.

If they are to add gambling to this kind of vice, it will just take less than an hour to turn a table game into a brawling to-combat fight for brains are already tweaked.


Cocaine or crack is a very dangerous drug and if you are addicted to it you will suffer if you don't use it and it can even cause death, and it is best to keep away or avoid it if you know someone who uses it.
And gambling using cocaine or crack is the same as asking for trouble, because cocaine can make users experience paranoia, hallucinations, panic, irritability and violence. And this will be chaos at the table that cannot be controlled.

It is obvious it cannot be controled and will only lead to suffering and probably to struggle financially, however, I am not sure if there would be any reputable casino out there which would allow their clients/gamblers to consume cocaine or crack while they are sat by a table. It pretty much sounds like breaking the ettiquete of gambling, not even mention authorities would likely get involved and investigate the establishment (the first thing that comes to mind if the casino itself selling those drugs).

I have always gotten the impression both cocaine and crack are illegal and social drugs, so I am not sure I could picture a lonely gambler taking those drugs while gambling on their desktop. I have never dealt with people who take those things and I do not wish to or find out by myself.

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December 06, 2023, 05:02:44 PM
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No doubt that's both drug and gambling addict are all bad, but if am to differentiate from both addiction, I think I will say that gambling addict are way better off that drug addict and trust me, I have seen both addicts up close as my locality is filled with both types of addict and sometimes I wonder what's been done to even tackle the issue and the most surprising part is that most of this addict are a comparison of both types which is drug and aslo a core drug abuse and believe this combination is way deadly than anything you can think of.
We don't really have to choose which addiction is the worst of the two, addiction isn't something to be taken lightly depending on how we perceive the degree that it destroys someone on a physical and mental level because all addictions are a bad thing that needs addressing and all of them deserve the same type of help. Seeing people telling that one addiction is worse than the other or vice versa is upsetting to me because we're putting a lower priority on the other addicts because we keep doing this kind of classification. Regards to what they do with this issue, it's basically nothing because no one's making significant changes to stuff in any countries out there and a lot of people still think that they don't deserve help or to go back to the society as a productive member of it, we don't like to admit it but we're all thinking it, that we should not help these addicts to go back, if there's any measure created to deal with this issue then we would've seen the effects already.
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December 06, 2023, 05:11:07 PM
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both drug addiction and gambling are equally bad, there is nothing better or worse than these two types of addiction. as long as it's an addiction, it's bad.

Anything good has its own limit and when you over do it, they have their own bad effects and we know how entertaining the gambling can be and the same time dangerous if you over do it but I'm not sure if there is any benefits of doing drugs, there is nothing that you will say about drugs that is beneficial to man but gambling has in some degree if you utilize it in a very good manners. I don't understand why the comparison of gambling and drugs in the first place despite that gambling has addiction, it's not a close fair comparison in my opinion.

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what about the drug addict who buys tens of dollars of drugs when he has no money to rent a house? no one can judge that drug addicts are more responsible about money than gambling addicts. that addiction causes them to lose rationality and think logically. these addicts do not hesitate to waste money for their pleasure and do not think about managing their money anymore.

A drug addict hardly think like a normal human being because they are been influence by the the substances they take but gambling person usually are in there right senses just that they are been fanatics with the too much gambling effects, more like intoxicated behavior that don't give them proper judgement when it comes to decision. Gambling addiction and drug addiction don't comes close, I bet you have not seen a correction center for gambling addicts but we have many of them for drug addicts.

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December 06, 2023, 11:51:07 PM
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I have seen crack heads more than responsible with there cash, than gambling addicts, this is what make me to ask you guys this question, drug junks are more responsible than gamblers, I have seen a gambling addict who spend 200 grand in under one and half hour on gambling, I've never seen a crack head done such before, not even on drugs.
I doubt there are any fanciful difference between the two, they are both bad in their different ways nothing to prefer one over the other. I have also seen drug cracks sell off their valued properties and items in a very cheap prices just to get hign and stay high just because they couldn't hold it when the desire flamed. Worst still hard  drugs destroys the internal organs and system of the body gambling doesn't go that far, it only play with your head. Drugs kills faster than gambling can kill an addictive victim, notwithstanding both deviant ain't anything to prefer one over the other trying to make one seem good when none is in any sense.
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December 07, 2023, 05:42:52 AM
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No doubt that's both drug and gambling addict are all bad, but if am to differentiate from both addiction, I think I will say that gambling addict are way better off that drug addict and trust me, I have seen both addicts up close as my locality is filled with both types of addict and sometimes I wonder what's been done to even tackle the issue and the most surprising part is that most of this addict are a comparison of both types which is drug and aslo a core drug abuse and believe this combination is way deadly than anything you can think of.
Gambling addiction or drug addiction can both be terrible for a person but gambling addiction is comparatively better than drug addiction. Drugs not only destroy the addict but also destroy the entire family. Gambling addiction may be easy to get out of, but drug addiction is much harder to get out of. If gambling is played properly then there is a possibility of making money from it but only bad side of drugs you can't find a good side of drugs. As long as a drug addict continues to use drugs, he will kill himself. If gambling can be played with self control then gambling can certainly create good chances for a gambler but even a small amount of drug use is very harmful for us. We must stay away from drugs as well as control gambling.

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December 07, 2023, 06:22:37 AM
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Between drugs and gambling, which one do you think is more addicting than the other? I have a good reason for asking this question, because there is something I saw not too long and I am doubting if anyone have seen the same thing, I am from a place where crack heads ( drugs addicts ) and also gambling addicts are all around, here is what I've seen.

I have seen crack heads more than responsible with there cash, than gambling addicts, this is what make me to ask you guys this question, drug junks are more responsible than gamblers, I have seen a gambling addict who spend 200 grand in under one and half hour on gambling, I've never seen a crack head done such before, not even on drugs.

I have seen a crack head who changed and when we had some chats he thank God in front of me, saying he is thankful that is addiction was on drugs and not gambling, he sounds so scary of getting addicted to gambling as he confirmed that gambling seems so much harder to quit.

He went on and say something about his friend who use 15 years on gambling and the friend isn't really sure how he will stop and the friend said that if he didn't stop it will kill him sooner or later, like he knew the danger lurking but he doesn't know how to stop, he isn't sure he will get better. The friend started telling him how the world will be better off without him, that's when they started locking him up, and the battle to change him when on for four years straight before he died from strange illness.

I was so scared with this story and It affected me for a while, I stopped gambling for a week because of what I heard from this man, his appearance is that of someone you won't want to listen to but what he went through is so eye opening that if other addicted gamblers hear from him it could change them, gambling addiction is really scary.

When talking about addiction, regardless of what you are into, both won't gave you positive results but instead get you into trouble. Majority of addicts in the society is comprised of 70% in gambling while 30% in drugs. I might be wrong but that is what I have observed here in my place. That crackhead you mentioned was literally correct about his choice but was still wrong on the other hand. Though the damage could be the same in the long run.



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December 07, 2023, 06:36:09 AM
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Some other scenarios say that someone who is a gambling addict states that they are lucky not to be addicted to drugs, besides damaging health it is also illegal because of the abuse that can end up worse, like the undead.

There is nothing better between the addiction problems of either gambling or drugs, the issue of the amount of money spent, in drugs depends on what kind of drugs are used, because the price varies quite a lot depending on the type, as well as gambling, so I think there is no better element if you look at each of the two.
So the scary thing about both of them is the addiction" not the type, including other addictions because it is excessive which can make someone worse if they have an "addiction".


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December 07, 2023, 09:21:32 AM
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All of this just seems to want to justify addiction, that addictions other than gambling are much better even though all addictions are the same, they are equally damaging to people who are addicted and will also have a bad impact on their health and family because people who are addicted can do anything to keep it going to fulfill all these desires and when no more money can be used then crime is what we often see.
So we cannot justify any addiction because all types of addiction will bring destruction to the person who is addicted, even gambling sites have warned about the dangers of addiction on their websites.

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December 07, 2023, 04:22:24 PM
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When talking about addiction, regardless of what you are into, both won't gave you positive results but instead get you into trouble. Majority of addicts in the society is comprised of 70% in gambling while 30% in drugs. I might be wrong but that is what I have observed here in my place. That crackhead you mentioned was literally correct about his choice but was still wrong on the other hand. Though the damage could be the same in the long run.
The problem of addiction to gambling, drugs or alcohol has become a serious problem in many countries, so those who have not experienced it must always be careful not to fall into the trap of people who are already addicted. This is difficult to cure, especially if they have become seriously addicted because it requires more things to be able to make them aware and admit that he has an addiction. But perhaps no one knows the percentage number, and it requires more research to find out the exact number. All these addictions can have fatal consequences for health, mental health and finances, so we really have to be able to avoid them, and if we still want to gamble, we really have to be able to control ourselves well.

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December 09, 2023, 01:56:01 AM
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All of this just seems to want to justify addiction, that addictions other than gambling are much better even though all addictions are the same, they are equally damaging to people who are addicted and will also have a bad impact on their health and family because people who are addicted can do anything to keep it going to fulfill all these desires and when no more money can be used then crime is what we often see.
So we cannot justify any addiction because all types of addiction will bring destruction to the person who is addicted, even gambling sites have warned about the dangers of addiction on their websites.
Even if there are some nuances among the different kind of addictions, like being addicted to an illegal substance, a legal one, or a behavioral addiction, it is true that at the end of the day all of them entail the same risks.

As people can destroy their health and finances with whatever addiction they have acquired, with this in mind it is important to not justify them in any way or form, otherwise people may believe there are types of addiction that are more benign and that are preferable over other addictions, something that is not true as all addictions regardless of their nature are undesirable.
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The problem of addiction to gambling, drugs or alcohol has become a serious problem in many countries, so those who have not experienced it must always be careful not to fall into the trap of people who are already addicted. This is difficult to cure, especially if they have become seriously addicted because it requires more things to be able to make them aware and admit that he has an addiction. But perhaps no one knows the percentage number, and it requires more research to find out the exact number. All these addictions can have fatal consequences for health, mental health and finances, so we really have to be able to avoid them, and if we still want to gamble, we really have to be able to control ourselves well.
We survived by providing the important mails for our jobs. Seriously chasing the bag and not minding any business with anybody that doesn't involved payment slip. A person can be addictive to different sectors of things he or she gets engaged, it can be either drugs, music or gambling which I regard to become the very worst set of gamblers, these people have nothing to give other than thinking or having fantasy of the good lifestyle with well stable mainstream of cool cash and not some random chances which shouldn't be settle for any longer.

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The problem of addiction to gambling, drugs or alcohol has become a serious problem in many countries, so those who have not experienced it must always be careful not to fall into the trap of people who are already addicted. This is difficult to cure, especially if they have become seriously addicted because it requires more things to be able to make them aware and admit that he has an addiction. But perhaps no one knows the percentage number, and it requires more research to find out the exact number. All these addictions can have fatal consequences for health, mental health and finances, so we really have to be able to avoid them, and if we still want to gamble, we really have to be able to control ourselves well.
We survived by providing the important mails for our jobs. Seriously chasing the bag and not minding any business with anybody that doesn't involved payment slip. A person can be addictive to different sectors of things he or she gets engaged, it can be either drugs, music or gambling which I regard to become the very worst set of gamblers, these people have nothing to give other than thinking or having fantasy of the good lifestyle with well stable mainstream of cool cash and not some random chances which shouldn't be settle for any longer.
Well, we have to be clear about something, in our life we will always have many things to experience, and many things to experience, that is, we will come across people who cannot show us certain things, certain activities that cannot be twisted, or they want to twist us, The key to all this is knowing how to make decisions and knowing how to say no, sometimes we, in order not to be poorly educated, let ourselves be fooled by certain eventualities from friends, family, anything from them, and we don't know how to say no, and that can bring us problems in every aspect, for example if I say no to drugs I protect myself, maybe for the friend who offers it to me I look like a fool, but what? There is no problem, we are still people with the power of decision and that is something that cannot be taken away because we are owners of our actions, and we are also too old to assume the consequences that lead to our decisions.

Having all these concepts very clear, we can decide what is best for us, sometimes saying no can save our lives, also everything that involves money, we should not make decisions lightly, because if we lose, who will pay for it? the casino? No, the casino is not to blame for our decisions, for that reason there are many people who think that addicted people are the fault of the casinos and it is not like that, because the casinos are just businesses, companies, business models, where Basically things have to be done based on what we all seek to have, it is a business where people obviously have to win, we as players decide how much money to put into the game, when and what games, because no one forces us, if we enter A casino is because we want to, because we decide so, because we want to have fun, and if we enter with the wrong idea thinking that the casino is a secure income, the same system will show us that this is not the case.

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Drugs feels good for them than eating, so to me there is no different in addiction, it's something that's generally bad, what can you advice a crack head that he will listen to you? If he gets better the next them he will tell you that you never advice him, they easily lose their head due to the drugs but gamblers isn't this cruel to themselves, they only waste money on casino games.

There's nothing to doubt about the fact that the advanced mode of being an addicted gambler is when they transcend to a crackhead gamblers, in this stage, the worst have been achieved, this is why it's very necessary to make sure that we should avoid every forms of unnecessary gambling attitudes that could get us addicted or misbehave from the normal way we should gamble, getting ourselves toxicated will do us no good than affecting our normal mental sense of reasonings.


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The problem of addiction to gambling, drugs or alcohol has become a serious problem in many countries, so those who have not experienced it must always be careful not to fall into the trap of people who are already addicted. This is difficult to cure, especially if they have become seriously addicted because it requires more things to be able to make them aware and admit that he has an addiction. But perhaps no one knows the percentage number, and it requires more research to find out the exact number. All these addictions can have fatal consequences for health, mental health and finances, so we really have to be able to avoid them, and if we still want to gamble, we really have to be able to control ourselves well.
We survived by providing the important mails for our jobs. Seriously chasing the bag and not minding any business with anybody that doesn't involved payment slip. A person can be addictive to different sectors of things he or she gets engaged, it can be either drugs, music or gambling which I regard to become the very worst set of gamblers, these people have nothing to give other than thinking or having fantasy of the good lifestyle with well stable mainstream of cool cash and not some random chances which shouldn't be settle for any longer.

People are simply divided into two types in their attitude to both finances and their personal life. Someone likes excessive risk, does not take care of himself and the people around him, and someone considers every cent and values himself and others. Naturally, both of these types may be interested in gambling. Even if the first type will get into gambling addiction, it is likely he will be able to get rid of it, the second type is unlikely to be able to get rid of gambling addiction and will do things that will lead to a sad ending. In fact, a lot depends on our character and perception of life.

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December 09, 2023, 08:47:01 PM
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There are many people who gamble only for fun but after becoming addicted to gambling cannot be stopped. I used to gamble just for fun at first but later it got me addicted. Not only gambling, people are addicted to many things but the habit of losing money is an exception, because when there is a shortage of money then people change their behavior. However no one is forcing you to gamble or even befriending you, so gambling is your personal ritual and you can spend your money anywhere.

We have lesser individuals gambling for fun, this days all individual care abou is earning, how they can make money from what they're doing and gambling is one of them which is also why we have a higher rate of addicts then before because they're getting more addicted as they try to chase after money from gambling. If you're looking for money, gambling is probably the worst thing that you should be doing as more people lose money than making money.

If you gamble for entertainment, you'll enjoy gambling more and can do it without been afraid of losing and this will make you very confident of the bets that you're placing which can make you to win more games than before. Just like the rich individuals that gamble without overthinking, if we start doing the same thing, we'll be making profits without thinking about it and making our minds to be obsessed with making money from gambling and turning into addicts.

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This is not a fair comparison, because crack heads do spend money on drugs too, the funny thing is they don't feel right in their system unless they take the drugs, and running out of drugs is something they can't live with, they would rather go broke than not have the drug in their system.

Maybe the crackheads you see, but crack heads can be much worse than addicted gamblers, been a drug addict is way scary, because it involves their health life style, they only way drugs running in their gains and nothing else, that's why you will see some of the turning into a stick and have massive loss of weight.

Drugs feels good for them than eating, so to me there is no different in addiction, it's something that's generally bad, what can you advice a crack head that he will listen to you? If he gets better the next them he will tell you that you never advice him, they easily lose their head due to the drugs but gamblers isn't this cruel to themselves, they only waste money on casino games.
I agree with that. I know that most people say that gambling addiction is the worst but that's not the reality, a gambling addict might get broke and lose everything because of their addiction but they will at least be physically fit and active and won't be sick or something if they don't get to gamble. But when a drug addict doesn't get to take drugs, they can't eat food, they can't sleep, they start feeling anxious and they will have pain in most parts of their body.

I say that because I see drug addicts in front of me every day, and there are drug addicts who I know who aren't in that much bad situation but they still have the same things. They can't eat food if they don't do drugs, they can't even go to the toilet and take a shit with peace if they don't take drugs first.

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