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December 23, 2023, 01:56:04 AM
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Yes, an addict no longer cares about what is around him and only gets deeper into his addiction. They will not want to do things outside of what they often do because they feel no interest in other things. That's why they also don't think about what would happen to them if all their wealth was used up for gambling, so they had nothing left to survive on. People who have experienced the pleasure of gambling games will postpone other things and consider them not important to them. They will prioritize gambling more than doing other things or activities, even though if they want to do it, they can start reducing their gambling activities. If they can reduce their gambling activities, they will see that what they are doing in gambling is actually not good and they should end it immediately before things get even worse. But we also can't force them to move or even stop them from gambling because they will only think we are disturbing them from gambling.

It is important for the player to forget, to experience a rush of andrenaline and a feeling of euphoria. They are ready to pay almost any price for this. Therefore, the words of reason do not work on them - they fall into a stupor and become almost blind. Their thirst to get some winnings only increases with each loss
That's right. Well, not to be a hypocrite but I do feel the same way even though I am not a gambling addict. With each loss I want my money back, I always think about one more bet until I find myself depleting my balance. But when that time comes, I rest. I think the better part of gambling online is if you don't have the means to deposit money anymore. I have cash but I don't like going to the store just to deposit it and also I don't like the idea of using my digital wallet to deposit. What is saved in my country's currency will stay that way. I won't go to lengths and effort to put it online so I can buy cryptocurrencies and then gamble it.
Unlike those crackheads who always have the means to buy their drugs because most of them are bought thru cash. It's easy to exchange online money to cash but it's difficult to buy online money using our cash. I hope I said it right and not confusing.
Even now, people are having a hard time putting money online unless there's a digital wallet that supports that feature. But a person who will deposit will also think twice to do it because of the damn transaction fees that are so high recently. So, I think gamblers are still safe, better than being a crackhead.

Yeah, and I think most of us are having that kind of thinking that if we loss in gambling, there's an urge feeling that we want to play again so that we can get our money back without thinking what will be the consequences of our actions. As you've said, one good thing about online gambling is that when you don't have money on your online banks, you weren't able to deposit money for gambling unlike traditional gambling wherein if you have a cash on hamd, you were able to play as long as you want, but sometimes even if a person don't have money online, they will really go out of their way just to gamble.

Well I think that all of us have always seen things from the normal point of view to accept that things when they try to do things differently in the game can be the most normal, I also when I started playing because it was obvious that I would lose and if , I wanted to repeat until I could win, and that is something that we as people can do and feel, when I played and lost more than 1mBTC because I lost control because I bet more and more and what I did was lose, I was falling into the game And I didn't have in mind that this game will always have the house advantage and that was something that I didn't understand well, because he really knew that with our abilities we were capable of being better than that, but no, because it is programmed and that reason is that we will always have the best to offer in this order of ideas, we as players must be more aware people and say that if we run out of money, that's where all the fun ends and nothing to do.

When I lost everything and was left empty-handed it was tough, because at that moment was when I felt I had to do things better, I reflected on my Mistakes and learned to bet little by little to obtain small results and those results would Accumulate, of course. It was my way of learning much more, everything came to my mind and I could see it Clearly , I knew at what moment was when I should have retired with some money, or at least go play the next day so that things would work out for me. better, but it is something that I did not agree to do, but anyway when I had some money or that I deposited it myself, it was something that I had to give it everything, of course it was something that I decided to do Myself , however when I told myself that things were going to go much further than normal because I had to do it better and I had to start doing it differently, it was most likely that I would try Different ways of playing to find my Luck.

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December 23, 2023, 04:13:55 PM
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Yeah, and I think most of us are having that kind of thinking that if we loss in gambling, there's an urge feeling that we want to play again so that we can get our money back without thinking what will be the consequences of our actions. As you've said, one good thing about online gambling is that when you don't have money on your online banks, you weren't able to deposit money for gambling unlike traditional gambling wherein if you have a cash on hamd, you were able to play as long as you want, but sometimes even if a person don't have money online, they will really go out of their way just to gamble.
We should just let go of wanting to gamble again if we lose because it will not always work according to our expectations. The fear is that we will only experience greater disappointment because we will experience more and more defeats. As gamblers who already have little experience in gambling, we must be able to stop these thoughts so that we don't want to gamble anymore, and we should immediately rest before our emotions are also affected by that desire. Those who are used to gambling online will know what they have to do, especially if they don't have money in the online bank. They can handle situations that are difficult because they have previous experience.
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December 26, 2023, 12:03:33 PM
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Yes, and whether you believe it or not, I have seen people on the internet, citizens of the United States of America who believe that in order to fully defeat the cartels and decrease their economical power a new set of drugs are supposed to be legalized and normalized in that country. I have read them to say cocaine should be legal in the United States in the same manner marihuana has been legalized. Even though I can agree the war on drugs has mostly been a failure, I don't believe allowing those kind of substances to circulate for recreational purposes is the solution, even if the government guaranteed the purity of them and also applied taxation on it's purchase.
We could also argue that even if Cocaine gets legalized on the USA, criminals will just move onto other more addictive substances to continue to fill their accounts.

If people can already develop very serious problems from their bad gambling behaviors, I don't even want to imagine what would happen if drugs like crack and cocaine become more widespread and easy to access to the general public. Because the legalization would imply an increase of offer and hence and decrease of price in a very short period of time.
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It's a big question what would happen if all drugs were legalized, but from what I know prohibition is not the answer. Same with gambling. If it was illegal in all countries it wouldn't mean people would stop gambling. Hardly. Rather they would find ways to gamble on the dark web, or in some shady places situated in the dark alleys. I'd even say you make something more attractive to some people when you ban it.

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December 26, 2023, 12:08:54 PM
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Yes, and whether you believe it or not, I have seen people on the internet, citizens of the United States of America who believe that in order to fully defeat the cartels and decrease their economical power a new set of drugs are supposed to be legalized and normalized in that country. I have read them to say cocaine should be legal in the United States in the same manner marihuana has been legalized. Even though I can agree the war on drugs has mostly been a failure, I don't believe allowing those kind of substances to circulate for recreational purposes is the solution, even if the government guaranteed the purity of them and also applied taxation on it's purchase.
We could also argue that even if Cocaine gets legalized on the USA, criminals will just move onto other more addictive substances to continue to fill their accounts.

If people can already develop very serious problems from their bad gambling behaviors, I don't even want to imagine what would happen if drugs like crack and cocaine become more widespread and easy to access to the general public. Because the legalization would imply an increase of offer and hence and decrease of price in a very short period of time.
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It's a big question what would happen if all drugs were legalized, but from what I know prohibition is not the answer. Same with gambling. If it was illegal in all countries it wouldn't mean people would stop gambling. Hardly. Rather they would find ways to gamble on the dark web, or in some shady places situated in the dark alleys. I'd even say you make something more attractive to some people when you ban it.

It’s shortsighted to say that legalizing would increase supply and then reduce price and that’s it
In reality it happened before that places legalized it and ended up seeing less use
But it’s not only about that but about reducing the war on drugs which is pure stupidity on a game that will never finish and also have better quality controls which will make drug use safer for those who want to use it

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Yes, and whether you believe it or not, I have seen people on the internet, citizens of the United States of America who believe that in order to fully defeat the cartels and decrease their economical power a new set of drugs are supposed to be legalized and normalized in that country. I have read them to say cocaine should be legal in the United States in the same manner marihuana has been legalized. Even though I can agree the war on drugs has mostly been a failure, I don't believe allowing those kind of substances to circulate for recreational purposes is the solution, even if the government guaranteed the purity of them and also applied taxation on it's purchase.
We could also argue that even if Cocaine gets legalized on the USA, criminals will just move onto other more addictive substances to continue to fill their accounts.

If people can already develop very serious problems from their bad gambling behaviors, I don't even want to imagine what would happen if drugs like crack and cocaine become more widespread and easy to access to the general public. Because the legalization would imply an increase of offer and hence and decrease of price in a very short period of time.
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It's a big question what would happen if all drugs were legalized, but from what I know prohibition is not the answer. Same with gambling. If it was illegal in all countries it wouldn't mean people would stop gambling. Hardly. Rather they would find ways to gamble on the dark web, or in some shady places situated in the dark alleys. I'd even say you make something more attractive to some people when you ban it.

Though, we must be aware that gambling and hard drugs are not supposed to be handled or liberalized in the same way, because even though both of them can develop addictions in any person, they cause different kinds of dependence on those who partake in their consumption.
Anyone of us can gamble for some time and lose some money, move on without life without chasing losses and we will be fine as if nothing has occurred, at the best we could say we learnt a lesson from lossing some bucks the the casino and not running behind those bucks.
On the other hand, drugs like cocaine and crack are a different story, consuming the minimum doses to get high and even only once can trigger a powerful addiction on anyone.

One thing is try to trick someone to gamble when they are not completely sure it is okey, but tricking someone to do the same with drugs, it quickly elevates the gravity of the situation and possible crime committed. I think it would be matter of time before someone started to spike other's drinks with that garbage.

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December 28, 2023, 02:02:54 PM
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Between drugs and gambling, which one do you think is more addicting than the other? I have a good reason for asking this question, because there is something I saw not too long and I am doubting if anyone have seen the same thing, I am from a place where crack heads ( drugs addicts ) and also gambling addicts are all around, here is what I've seen.

I have seen crack heads more than responsible with there cash, than gambling addicts, this is what make me to ask you guys this question, drug junks are more responsible than gamblers, I have seen a gambling addict who spend 200 grand in under one and half hour on gambling, I've never seen a crack head done such before, not even on drugs.

I have seen a crack head who changed and when we had some chats he thank God in front of me, saying he is thankful that is addiction was on drugs and not gambling, he sounds so scary of getting addicted to gambling as he confirmed that gambling seems so much harder to quit.

He went on and say something about his friend who use 15 years on gambling and the friend isn't really sure how he will stop and the friend said that if he didn't stop it will kill him sooner or later, like he knew the danger lurking but he doesn't know how to stop, he isn't sure he will get better. The friend started telling him how the world will be better off without him, that's when they started locking him up, and the battle to change him when on for four years straight before he died from strange illness.

I was so scared with this story and It affected me for a while, I stopped gambling for a week because of what I heard from this man, his appearance is that of someone you won't want to listen to but what he went through is so eye opening that if other addicted gamblers hear from him it could change them, gambling addiction is really scary.


OP the guy made the story look so scary, I would have appreciated it if he explained what actually happened because I don't think that they can be locking someone because he is an addict in gambling, in most cases I have seen or heard is only drug addicts they lock like that, you should understand that drug is a substance that sends signal to the brain and trigger it to either perform in a way that makes it to misbehave, but gambling does not warrant people to lock anyone inside because people see gambling as a social activity, op I don't concur that gambling is more addictive than drugs.

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OP the guy made the story look so scary, I would have appreciated it if he explained what actually happened because I don't think that they can be locking someone because he is an addict in gambling, in most cases I have seen or heard is only drug addicts they lock like that, you should understand that drug is a substance that sends signal to the brain and trigger it to either perform in a way that makes it to misbehave, but gambling does not warrant people to lock anyone inside because people see gambling as a social activity, op I don't concur that gambling is more addictive than drugs.
The brain by itself also produces similar substances to the illegal drugs people get addicted to, meaning that in theory a person can get addicted to anything if the wrong circumstances surround them.

However any form of addiction is incredibly scary since people will do all kind of things in order to keep their addiction going, and this includes all kind of crimes as well, so I think it is pointless to think about which addiction is worst than the others as any single one of them can and given the chance will wreck your life.

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Though, we must be aware that gambling and hard drugs are not supposed to be handled or liberalized in the same way, because even though both of them can develop addictions in any person, they cause different kinds of dependence on those who partake in their consumption.
Anyone of us can gamble for some time and lose some money, move on without life without chasing losses and we will be fine as if nothing has occurred, at the best we could say we learnt a lesson from lossing some bucks the the casino and not running behind those bucks.
On the other hand, drugs like cocaine and crack are a different story, consuming the minimum doses to get high and even only once can trigger a powerful addiction on anyone.

One thing is try to trick someone to gamble when they are not completely sure it is okey, but tricking someone to do the same with drugs, it quickly elevates the gravity of the situation and possible crime committed. I think it would be matter of time before someone started to spike other's drinks with that garbage.

I absolutely agree with you, my friend. Hard drugs and gambling must not be in the same category with respect to the potential harm they may cause. Imagine two blokes meet, one is a hard drugs addict and another one is a coder. And the latter says: "Man, why are doing that to yourself?" And the drug addict replies: "Well, I heard you gamble. Don't be the pot calling the kettle black, you know". I mean, c'mon!

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Though, we must be aware that gambling and hard drugs are not supposed to be handled or liberalized in the same way, because even though both of them can develop addictions in any person, they cause different kinds of dependence on those who partake in their consumption.
Anyone of us can gamble for some time and lose some money, move on without life without chasing losses and we will be fine as if nothing has occurred, at the best we could say we learnt a lesson from lossing some bucks the the casino and not running behind those bucks.
On the other hand, drugs like cocaine and crack are a different story, consuming the minimum doses to get high and even only once can trigger a powerful addiction on anyone.

One thing is try to trick someone to gamble when they are not completely sure it is okey, but tricking someone to do the same with drugs, it quickly elevates the gravity of the situation and possible crime committed. I think it would be matter of time before someone started to spike other's drinks with that garbage.

I absolutely agree with you, my friend. Hard drugs and gambling must not be in the same category with respect to the potential harm they may cause. Imagine two blokes meet, one is a hard drugs addict and another one is a coder. And the latter says: "Man, why are doing that to yourself?" And the drug addict replies: "Well, I heard you gamble. Don't be the pot calling the kettle black, you know". I mean, c'mon!

Well. If we are honest, it is quite of difficult in the current state of societies around the world not to judge others, regardless of how bad our personal situation is compared to them. But leaving that to one side, it catches my attention how hard drugs like cocaine and crack many times end up being mixed with gambling, specially amount the rich and their luxurious private parties. Not that I am rich or I have been invited to those celebrations, I assume it is that way because some leaked footage I have seen of those events where people engage in both alcohol/cocaine consumption and also gambling.
I don't know, to me it is like a big exaggeration for anyone to do such things at the same time, I doubt someone could do that in a regular basis and yet continue to keep their status, it is the kind of mixture of habits would could easily drain anyone's  pockets.

I have associated rather the consumption of crack-cocaine to gamblers who have reached rock bottom and cannot feel any positive feeling without the aid of those forms of base cocaine.

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Op, i think drugs addiction are more dangerous than gambling addiction. People who are addicted in gambling, just want to have money and that's why they gambling. Sometime they inject more money to recover previous loss but when a mentality fit people can realize that, he can't beat the gambling or can't make money from it for long then he might start job or business and can change his life. But drugs addiction is different. After addicted, anything can't stop themselves from taking drugs. Even happiness, money or anything else can't help them except rehab where a organization force him not to take drugs. Gamblers can be changed anytime but it'll be so hard to change a drugs addicted people. And I don't understand how a crack head can maintain & become responsible than other when he actually don't know what is he doing most of the time?!  I think durgs addiction is complex

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Well. If we are honest, it is quite of difficult in the current state of societies around the world not to judge others, regardless of how bad our personal situation is compared to them. But leaving that to one side, it catches my attention how hard drugs like cocaine and crack many times end up being mixed with gambling, specially amount the rich and their luxurious private parties. Not that I am rich or I have been invited to those celebrations, I assume it is that way because some leaked footage I have seen of those events where people engage in both alcohol/cocaine consumption and also gambling.
I don't know, to me it is like a big exaggeration for anyone to do such things at the same time, I doubt someone could do that in a regular basis and yet continue to keep their status, it is the kind of mixture of habits would could easily drain anyone's  pockets.

I have associated rather the consumption of crack-cocaine to gamblers who have reached rock bottom and cannot feel any positive feeling without the aid of those forms of base cocaine.

Those rich folks is another story entirely. They can do drugs and gamble simultaneously and nothing bad will happen to them in the end because they have enough money to cover their losses and to go to some expensive rehabilitation clinic. Let's not worry about them. But for regular folks like us both gambling and drug addiction can be a big problem and we must watch out.

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Well. If we are honest, it is quite of difficult in the current state of societies around the world not to judge others, regardless of how bad our personal situation is compared to them. But leaving that to one side, it catches my attention how hard drugs like cocaine and crack many times end up being mixed with gambling, specially amount the rich and their luxurious private parties. Not that I am rich or I have been invited to those celebrations, I assume it is that way because some leaked footage I have seen of those events where people engage in both alcohol/cocaine consumption and also gambling.
I don't know, to me it is like a big exaggeration for anyone to do such things at the same time, I doubt someone could do that in a regular basis and yet continue to keep their status, it is the kind of mixture of habits would could easily drain anyone's  pockets.

I have associated rather the consumption of crack-cocaine to gamblers who have reached rock bottom and cannot feel any positive feeling without the aid of those forms of base cocaine.

Those rich folks is another story entirely. They can do drugs and gamble simultaneously and nothing bad will happen to them in the end because they have enough money to cover their losses and to go to some expensive rehabilitation clinic. Let's not worry about them. But for regular folks like us both gambling and drug addiction can be a big problem and we must watch out.

While I completely agree with you we are supposed to take care of ourselves and not to think too much on the habits of those who have much money to gamble and do drugs at the same time. I am not convinced that someone with money to spare could go away with gambling and hard drugs without suffering very serious consequences to their health and their finances, we are talking about a powerful mixture of addictions, after all.
Anyways, I could understand someone being an average person going by trying to gamble and have fun and then becoming an addicted person without a warning, but in order to start to consume crack or cocaine, it requires a choose to try a substance which is pretty well known for their addictive properties on people. You know, it is more reckless and is not slow and gradual process like problem gambling usually is. Even it would make more sense someone becoming an alcoholic and a gambler at the same time.

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Addiction to anything could be hard to come out from but their are difference between drug and gambling addiction.
There are many drugs you can get addicted to and the drug addiction would also make your body more resistive to drugs (not all but most). i.e. you need to keep increasing the dose the longer you are into it and as the body get used to it, the withdrawal symptoms are physical and real, so it's difficult to withdraw from drugs at once.
While gambling addiction is more mental and if you have a strong will, you can leave gambling than and there.


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Op, i think drugs addiction are more dangerous than gambling addiction. People who are addicted in gambling, just want to have money and that's why they gambling. Sometime they inject more money to recover previous loss but when a mentality fit people can realize that, he can't beat the gambling or can't make money from it for long then he might start job or business and can change his life. But drugs addiction is different. After addicted, anything can't stop themselves from taking drugs. Even happiness, money or anything else can't help them except rehab where a organization force him not to take drugs. Gamblers can be changed anytime but it'll be so hard to change a drugs addicted people. And I don't understand how a crack head can maintain & become responsible than other when he actually don't know what is he doing most of the time?!  I think durgs addiction is complex
agree with you. drugs are very dangerous and almost impossible to cure quickly even though you have been to a psychiatrist many times. in contrast to gambling addiction, maybe once or twice he has fully realized his brain is addicted to gambling. so stay away from drugs, get closer to gambling because you can still benefit from winning even a little.

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Addiction to anything could be hard to come out from but their are difference between drug and gambling addiction.
There are many drugs you can get addicted to and the drug addiction would also make your body more resistive to drugs (not all but most). i.e. you need to keep increasing the dose the longer you are into it and as the body get used to it, the withdrawal symptoms are physical and real, so it's difficult to withdraw from drugs at once.
While gambling addiction is more mental and if you have a strong will, you can leave gambling than and there.
But gambling addiction can cause someone to decide to commit suicide because they can no longer bear to see the losses. They took a shortcut after realizing that they had lost everything they had, including their family, so it made them very desperate and they finally chose to end their lives. This is very sad because we see people who commit suicide. After all, they are no longer able to continue their lives because they have experienced huge losses from gambling. Gambling or drug addiction both have a tremendous negative impact on both the addict and the people around him because they only care about themselves rather than those close to them. This is what we must avoid so that it doesn't happen to us, especially if we only want to use gambling as entertainment.

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January 14, 2024, 09:22:31 AM
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agree with you. drugs are very dangerous and almost impossible to cure quickly even though you have been to a psychiatrist many times. in contrast to gambling addiction, maybe once or twice he has fully realized
actually People aren't addicted with gambling but with money. Gambling is a process to earn money and so some people do gambling aggressively which is called "addicted in gambling" but after a certain time, they can change the way of earning source by shifting from gambling to job!/business, whenever they get realized they are losing huge in gambling. But in durgs addiction case, it totally hampers brain. This is called Substance use disorder (SUD) which is a complex condition what makes functional changes to brain circuits, and destroyed the control from ourselves. So coming out from this situation, is very hard. So gambling addiction can be considered nothing when anyone comparing it with drug addiction IMHO

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 #217

agree with you. drugs are very dangerous and almost impossible to cure quickly even though you have been to a psychiatrist many times. in contrast to gambling addiction, maybe once or twice he has fully realized
actually People aren't addicted with gambling but with money. Gambling is a process to earn money and so some people do gambling aggressively which is called "addicted in gambling" but after a certain time, they can change the way of earning source by shifting from gambling to job!/business, whenever they get realized they are losing huge in gambling. But in durgs addiction case, it totally hampers brain. This is called Substance use disorder (SUD) which is a complex condition what makes functional changes to brain circuits, and destroyed the control from ourselves. So coming out from this situation, is very hard. So gambling addiction can be considered nothing when anyone comparing it with drug addiction IMHO

Drug addiction indeed has very bad effect in terms of health, especially someone can get brain damage from it.
Though, gambling addiction has its own worst impact on people, once the person changed his lifestyle, he can still go back to his old self.
But when you talk about drugs, even if they did change, once it already affected its brain because of too much use, hard to get back to his self again.
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January 16, 2024, 11:22:59 AM
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While I completely agree with you we are supposed to take care of ourselves and not to think too much on the habits of those who have much money to gamble and do drugs at the same time. I am not convinced that someone with money to spare could go away with gambling and hard drugs without suffering very serious consequences to their health and their finances, we are talking about a powerful mixture of addictions, after all.
Anyways, I could understand someone being an average person going by trying to gamble and have fun and then becoming an addicted person without a warning, but in order to start to consume crack or cocaine, it requires a choose to try a substance which is pretty well known for their addictive properties on people. You know, it is more reckless and is not slow and gradual process like problem gambling usually is. Even it would make more sense someone becoming an alcoholic and a gambler at the same time.

Yeah, you are right, of course they can lose a lot of money and it can be dangerous for their health, this mixture of addictions. I'm just saying that they can get away more easily than regular folks, and so they kinda can afford that. Poor person can't afford losing $1,000, it could cost him his life, while it's nothing for a rich person. Also I want to add that problem gambling is not a gradual process for many people. There are many cases when people are hooked right away.

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