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December 01, 2023, 08:46:34 AM
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If luck is not on your side there is nothing you can do about it, math expert or not you will still need to get lucky, everyone has luck in them but we don't know when we will be lucky, so it's better to keep gambling with small amount until your luck comes around, I have use $1 bet to make $300 and it wasn't long ago, I got lucky, but I have lost few $10 on multiple rounds with no single win, gambling is what it is, if you accept this fact you will have no problem with gambling.

Some people start gambling because they watch some videos online but the reality is they are fake, those videos show how gamblers hit more bonus and you will think its the same but on getting into gambling you will get opposite result, do not allow anything or anyone to talk nonsense onto your head, come up with your own safest strategy.

I am not very good at math and I don't even need to because it's not my thing, and I hate games that have something to do with math, this is why I am bad at solving puzzles at times but not all, I prefer the simplest games on online casinos, like completing a mission, or rolling dices, or slots.
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December 01, 2023, 02:58:38 PM
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If luck is not on your side there is nothing you can do about it, math expert or not you will still need to get lucky, everyone has luck in them but we don't know when we will be lucky, so it's better to keep gambling with small amount until your luck comes around, I have use $1 bet to make $300 and it wasn't long ago, I got lucky, but I have lost few $10 on multiple rounds with no single win, gambling is what it is, if you accept this fact you will have no problem with gambling.

Some people start gambling because they watch some videos online but the reality is they are fake, those videos show how gamblers hit more bonus and you will think its the same but on getting into gambling you will get opposite result, do not allow anything or anyone to talk nonsense onto your head, come up with your own safest strategy.

I am not very good at math and I don't even need to because it's not my thing, and I hate games that have something to do with math, this is why I am bad at solving puzzles at times but not all, I prefer the simplest games on online casinos, like completing a mission, or rolling dices, or slots.
Although a $1 bet turning into $300 shows how unpredictable gambling can be, its not a plan; its just a one-time event. There is some truth to the saying "lucky people win some decisions."

You're right, a lot of web videos arent what they seem to be, misleading people. Their information is not reliable for learning how gambling works. Although its okay to dislike math-based games, its important to remember that even easy games like slots and dices are based on math.

Gambling should be approached responsibly. But keeping gambling until luck changes is a risky idea. Its important to define boundaries for both time and money. Theres more to gambling than just winning. Its fun. Doing it should stay a fun, controlled pastime and not a way to make money.

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December 01, 2023, 03:16:13 PM
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Yes, luck will come to people who deserve it and it can indeed help people become millionaires from gambling. But we can't chase luck because we don't know when luck will come to us.
Luck cannot be sought because luck comes to the right and chosen people, that's why don't expect to get luck when gambling, let alone seeing other people lucky to get big wins, after all luck cannot be copied and that's why its arrival cannot be predicted. Playing gambling should be enjoyed, don't think too much that you can beat the dealer easily even if you are an expert in mathematics.

Everyone can feel confident that the dealer can be beaten easily using artificial intelligence or mathematics, it will not be possible because the dealer is much more likely to use something more sophisticated to win the casino, so don't expect luck and other things when gambling because it is clearly a mistake, It's true that every gambler can definitely become a millionaire, but not many of us will meet and be that lucky.
Although luck can't be generated or copied, can't our decisions and actions prepare us for lucky opportunities? Understanding chances and probabilities in gambling is about making informed judgments, not beating luck. Is blind betting different from strategic wagering? We can't control luck, but our approach can affect it. When gambling is fun, human psychology is at play. Aren't individuals drawn to the thrill and dopamine rush? However, this is two-sided. Excitement can cause addiction, affecting mental and physical health. Isn't society accountable for promoting responsible gambling? While becoming a millionaire is appealing, the reality is often brutal. Shouldn't we emphasize risk awareness and responsible gambling?

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December 01, 2023, 04:41:06 PM
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Yes, luck will come to people who deserve it and it can indeed help people become millionaires from gambling. But we can't chase luck because we don't know when luck will come to us.
Luck cannot be sought because luck comes to the right and chosen people, that's why don't expect to get luck when gambling, let alone seeing other people lucky to get big wins, after all luck cannot be copied and that's why its arrival cannot be predicted. Playing gambling should be enjoyed, don't think too much that you can beat the dealer easily even if you are an expert in mathematics.

Everyone can feel confident that the dealer can be beaten easily using artificial intelligence or mathematics, it will not be possible because the dealer is much more likely to use something more sophisticated to win the casino, so don't expect luck and other things when gambling because it is clearly a mistake, It's true that every gambler can definitely become a millionaire, but not many of us will meet and be that lucky.
Luck indeed is often seen as a random and unpredictable force, and attributing success solely to luck can be misleading. The notion that luck comes to the right and chosen people adds an element of destiny to the concept. Emphasizing the enjoyment of gambling rather than solely focusing on winning is a healthy approach. Acknowledging that luck cannot be copied or predicted reinforces the idea that outcomes in gambling are not entirely within one's control.

The caution against expecting to beat the dealer easily, even with expertise in mathematics or the use of artificial intelligence, is reasonable. Casinos are designed with sophisticated systems to maintain an edge, making it challenging for individual strategies to consistently outperform. Maybe it's true that some people may become millionaires through gambling, but it's just a rare thing to happen. Gambling should be approached with a realistic understanding of the odds, and people should avoid relying solely on luck to achieve financial success.

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December 01, 2023, 10:13:58 PM
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That's right, and I've also said before that gambling is just luck that anyone will get, be it a smart person, a rich person, a poor person, and only then will he achieve it, whether tomorrow or the day after, it's not certain that he will get it again.
Agree with you, if we consider gambling as entertainment for ourselves then we will enjoy the sensation in it, not to chase victory but to seek experience and pleasure.
However, if we make the mistake of gambling by being too obsessed with chasing victory, then it is true that we will definitely experience greed and that is very dangerous for our lives later.
Everyone can get lucky when the time comes but we will never know when the time will come when we can get lucky. But we also can't continue gambling because that will definitely require a lot of money so it can cause us to experience a lot of losses. Maybe we can manage our gambling time along with the allocated funds that we prepare so that we don't gamble too often while we wait for our luck to come. And after luck comes, we don't need to chase it anymore because we don't know whether luck is still with us in the next round or has gone. We only need to gamble enough so as not to lose a lot of money because that is a precaution we can take.

Your opinion is absolutely correct, anyone will get that luck and no one knows when that luck will come, therefore we gamblers try as hard as possible to maintain good behavior not to keep gambling to get that luck, because if we are too If we gamble a lot, we will experience big losses and it will be difficult for us to win. Limiting the amount of betting money is a good step to use in gambling when we lose, the money won't be too much and we won't be stressed thinking about the loss. And I agree with you that when we win at gambling we should stop for a moment, think about going home and gambling another day we can do it again.

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December 01, 2023, 11:14:46 PM
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School is not important as 96% of what you learn won't be used in the real world to make money, but this 4% left is making a lot of people rich, math and gambling seems to go with each other, what do you guys think? Am I wrong or right?

It depends!

In some games math won't help you at all, but in others like dice or cards they will help you a lot if you're good at math.
The idea behind this advantage consists of forming a set with all possible outcomes in a game and, from this set, quantifying the results that are favorable or not in a given outcome.
When the player has all the necessary information and is able to measure this outcome of probabilities, it is possible to check the proportion between favorable or unfavorable results and compare them with other game objectives to make the best bet, bluff or know if the opponent is bluffing, and in some cases even knows exactly what is the only possible outcome of a game that apparently has not yet been revealed.

If you are interested in this, I advise you to study Pascal's triangle... it is very useful when we want to know the number of ways in which we can select a number of elements from a set that has an equal or greater amount of elements. Before using mathematics to play, you need to know this important mathematical tool.

How does math help you with dice games? I am not very well versed in dice games, but are you talking about the simple versions that ask you to pick high or low and stuff like that?

I agree with you that certain mathematical basics and statistics specifically can help you with making decisions in some games. Poker is one of those examples. But since there are so many resources now that everyone can access for free, I think multiplayer games rarely give you an edge in most of the games because most of the people are aware of most of the important rules/mathematical laws.
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December 01, 2023, 11:29:28 PM
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Your opinion is absolutely correct, anyone will get that luck and no one knows when that luck will come, therefore we gamblers try as hard as possible to maintain good behavior not to keep gambling to get that luck, because if we are too If we gamble a lot, we will experience big losses and it will be difficult for us to win. Limiting the amount of betting money is a good step to use in gambling when we lose, the money won't be too much and we won't be stressed thinking about the loss. And I agree with you that when we win at gambling we should stop for a moment, think about going home and gambling another day we can do it again.

Talking about luck, it comes to those players who keep on betting.  Once a player stop betting, they will never experience on getting lucky and winning huge amount.  A person does not need to sacrifice all his money for that lucky experience.  If the person is patient and smart enough, he can experience lucky winning if he doesn't quit his gambling activity.  A person just need to have self awarenes, bankroll management and time management all in all to minimize his gambling losses.

About math, the chance of winning can be calculated but when the winning will occur will never be determined.  Those who said they calculated the next spin for winning, is just exaggeraton to get people's attention especially when their means of living is through streaming or publications.

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December 01, 2023, 11:46:56 PM
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Your opinion is absolutely correct, anyone will get that luck and no one knows when that luck will come, therefore we gamblers try as hard as possible to maintain good behavior not to keep gambling to get that luck, because if we are too If we gamble a lot, we will experience big losses and it will be difficult for us to win. Limiting the amount of betting money is a good step to use in gambling when we lose, the money won't be too much and we won't be stressed thinking about the loss. And I agree with you that when we win at gambling we should stop for a moment, think about going home and gambling another day we can do it again.

Talking about luck, it comes to those players who keep on betting.  Once a player stop betting, they will never experience on getting lucky and winning huge amount.  A person does not need to sacrifice all his money for that lucky experience.  If the person is patient and smart enough, he can experience lucky winning if he doesn't quit his gambling activity.  A person just need to have self awarenes, bankroll management and time management all in all to minimize his gambling losses.

About math, the chance of winning can be calculated but when the winning will occur will never be determined.  Those who said they calculated the next spin for winning, is just exaggeraton to get people's attention especially when their means of living is through streaming or publications.
So you shouldn't really be stopping? thats something a dangerous kind of principle because having this kind of mindset will actually make yourself that desperate and since you had fixed up yourself
in terms of mindset then you would eventually be playing further more until you would be losing it all and this is really that bad. When it comes on to math then there are really some connections in speaking about probabilities or some sort but keeping yourself that mindful even on those details wont really be that something to be relevant considering that luck would really be always a
great factor when it comes to this or gambling itself. This is why it would be ideal that you shouldn't really be bothering yourself with those numbers.
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December 02, 2023, 12:01:29 AM
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Gambling is known to be a game of pure luck but also probability, that's if you are good at math, this is what a fellow employee said to me, he then told me to look Chris Ferguson up, to my surprise this man won millions in gambling using math, I read this man is really good at math,

He created his own gambling strategy for poker completely on math and game theory instead of trying to focus monitoring the players, this man won five world series bracelets 🤦 and over 8 millions dollars in gambling tournaments.

There is also another man called James Simons, who is named the greatest gambler of all, he made more money using math than Chris Ferguson, James net worth is over 20 billions, I was shocked, because I use to think it's impossible to gamble using any skills, this is a skill on a another level, I am mad that I am just knowing this not too long ago.

School is not important as 96% of what you learn won't be used in the real world to make money, but this 4% left is making a lot of people rich, math and gambling seems to go with each other, what do you guys think? Am I wrong or right?

Yes, I agree, in some games like poker for example, math can help you a lot. I have also heard about many poker personalities who are very good at math. Poker is actually based on math, there's even term "poker math". Poker is all about probability and statistics, so if you're good at math you should be able to quickly calculate the probability of your hand. The only thing which makes poker math harder is bluffing. So if you're good at bluffing you can potentially win a person who is good at math.  Cool   
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Luck cannot be sought because luck comes to the right and chosen people, that's why don't expect to get luck when gambling, let alone seeing other people lucky to get big wins, after all luck cannot be copied and that's why its arrival cannot be predicted. Playing gambling should be enjoyed, don't think too much that you can beat the dealer easily even if you are an expert in mathematics.

Everyone can feel confident that the dealer can be beaten easily using artificial intelligence or mathematics, it will not be possible because the dealer is much more likely to use something more sophisticated to win the casino, so don't expect luck and other things when gambling because it is clearly a mistake, It's true that every gambler can definitely become a millionaire, but not many of us will meet and be that lucky.
Yes, that's what happens because luck chooses people who deserve luck so that people can win the gambling game. We can only enjoy gambling properly as entertainment and not chase victory or try hard to win. That will be difficult to do because we will only get problem after problem that we may not be able to face and everything will be our fault for trying to chase victory. So it is true that even if we are experts in mathematics, we will find it difficult to beat the house because the casino is their business and we are just players trying to get entertainment from gambling.

It is difficult to beat the bookie because they own the business but even so, we as gamblers, can indeed win a little compared to the bookie. After getting that win, we should immediately leave the casino so that there is no desire to chase bigger wins, which will not be easy for us as gamblers. Only with luck can we beat the casino, but we won't always be able to get lucky because luck will always move to other people, and we don't know when it will be our turn to get lucky.

Your opinion is absolutely correct, anyone will get that luck and no one knows when that luck will come, therefore we gamblers try as hard as possible to maintain good behavior not to keep gambling to get that luck, because if we are too If we gamble a lot, we will experience big losses and it will be difficult for us to win. Limiting the amount of betting money is a good step to use in gambling when we lose, the money won't be too much and we won't be stressed thinking about the loss. And I agree with you that when we win at gambling we should stop for a moment, think about going home and gambling another day we can do it again.
Those of us who don't know when we can get lucky can only keep trying, but we also have to know how long we try in one day because our goal in gambling is not to get lucky but just to have fun. Let luck come to us while we just need to enjoy gambling and if today we are not lucky, we must immediately stop gambling before we end up spending all the money. That's why we must always use clear boundaries when playing gambling so that we are not influenced by anything we see while gambling so that we can stop gambling whenever we want. And after luck comes to us and helps us win the gambling game, it is better for us to stop immediately for a moment. That will save us from using the winnings and the capital we have from wanting to continue gambling because we hope for bigger wins.

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December 02, 2023, 07:30:49 AM
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Gambling is known to be a game of pure luck but also probability, that's if you are good at math, this is what a fellow employee said to me, he then told me to look Chris Ferguson up, to my surprise this man won millions in gambling using math, I read this man is really good at math, 

That is not in line with most people who are good at mathematics can produce a lot of wins in gambling. In this world there are hundreds of people who are quite good at mathematics so that if that is the formula then we will see many of them can make money in gambling and maybe some people or just call it more luck by making mathematical studies applied in gambling. Besides, we also don't know how the mathematical relationship he uses in gambling so that the may not rely completely on mathematical formulas.

Half use the mathematical formula and the rest may remain in luck and even if it is bigger using the mathematical formula, it will be quite interesting to be invited and try to find out what kind of formula he uses, Because almost many people will not find formulas in gambling to produce consecutive wins consistently.

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In about 3 days ago, I went to the haircut saloon and had some Forex Traders discussing about the forex trading, one of them seems to be an expert trader who said he made over $1,500 in not more than hour simply because he follows the marketing line and taking advantage against the streams. You asked the once seems to be his junior traders to avoid the Fridays trades because he had studied the weeks candle chart and had examined that there would be flops.

About this, I clearly believed that he is a chronic mathematician who bases his calculations and probabilities on bypassing and boycotting of obstacles.
So there are certain tendencies to lead winning of such an expertised person if grounded in the gambling and employs such criterials in the gambling.
Hence you will understand the nature of the gambling program, ability to enumerating with the possible probability to win via historical charts and considering the reshuffling of recently structures of the game with technical necessity of plus and minus analogies.
However, a huge piece of "Lucks" stands more a consistent to who takes the winning in the gambles instead the mathematical terms is to enhance ones skills as individual benefits of wall to lead on as courage while sitted for gambling.

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In about 3 days ago, I went to the haircut saloon and had some Forex Traders discussing about the forex trading, one of them seems to be an expert trader who said he made over $1,500 in not more than hour simply because he follows the marketing line and taking advantage against the streams. You asked the once seems to be his junior traders to avoid the Fridays trades because he had studied the weeks candle chart and had examined that there would be flops.

About this, I clearly believed that he is a chronic mathematician who bases his calculations and probabilities on bypassing and boycotting of obstacles.
So there are certain tendencies to lead winning of such an expertised person if grounded in the gambling and employs such criterials in the gambling.
Hence you will understand the nature of the gambling program, ability to enumerating with the possible probability to win via historical charts and considering the reshuffling of recently structures of the game with technical necessity of plus and minus analogies.
However, a huge piece of "Lucks" stands more a consistent to who takes the winning in the gambles instead the mathematical terms is to enhance ones skills as individual benefits of wall to lead on as courage while sitted for gambling.
I also only heard about the stock market that it is better to close all transactions on Fridays, because something that can't be predicted may happen over the weekend and the market will be closed.

A strategy for avoiding obstacles is one of the best methods in gambling and even trading, but I called it differently for myself - you need to strive not to win as most people do, but to take actions in order NOT to lose your money. It sounds almost like the same thing, but the meaning is radically different. This allows us to learn and make fewer and fewer mistakes each time. I applied this specifically to poker, where the math part is very important. Together, this approach allowed me to beat small limits, but I didn’t rise higher because I had to study with a coach, which I didn’t do.

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December 03, 2023, 01:25:39 PM
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Talking about luck, it comes to those players who keep on betting.  Once a player stop betting, they will never experience on getting lucky and winning huge amount.  A person does not need to sacrifice all his money for that lucky experience.  If the person is patient and smart enough, he can experience lucky winning if he doesn't quit his gambling activity.  A person just need to have self awarenes, bankroll management and time management all in all to minimize his gambling losses.

About math, the chance of winning can be calculated but when the winning will occur will never be determined.  Those who said they calculated the next spin for winning, is just exaggeraton to get people's attention especially when their means of living is through streaming or publications.

Yes, if you can't stop for a moment then you will continue to experience a very serious addiction because you will place irregular or excessive bets, but if you try to stop when you are lucky then you will soon enjoy the results happily. Indeed, when gambling, a person must have self-awareness when gambling so as not to make fatal mistakes and harm himself.

If someone says that he is able to calculate winnings in gambling, in my opinion this belief is still very doubtful, because no one can really guess or predict a win, and that is a delusion that an addict has.

Those of us who don't know when we can get lucky can only keep trying, but we also have to know how long we try in one day because our goal in gambling is not to get lucky but just to have fun. Let luck come to us while we just need to enjoy gambling and if today we are not lucky, we must immediately stop gambling before we end up spending all the money. That's why we must always use clear boundaries when playing gambling so that we are not influenced by anything we see while gambling so that we can stop gambling whenever we want. And after luck comes to us and helps us win the gambling game, it is better for us to stop immediately for a moment. That will save us from using the winnings and the capital we have from wanting to continue gambling because we hope for bigger wins.
Yes, we have to know the time limits and stakes in gambling so that we don't just hope for luck but for entertainment for ourselves. Apart from that, good self-control is also needed to perfect good behavior when gambling, which is useful for minimizing the risks of gambling and preventing us from becoming addicted.

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December 03, 2023, 01:39:57 PM
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School is not important as 96% of what you learn won't be used in the real world to make money, but this 4% left is making a lot of people rich, math and gambling seems to go with each other, what do you guys think? Am I wrong or right?
If you talk about Mathematics and gambling, this can be seen from an application point of view called probability or experimentation, not all types of bets can be calculated using mathematical methods, Yes, some gamblers think that the properties used in the mathematical method can be said to be theoretical, even though some actually have an impact on facts.

Maybe we will often see the resulting events which are often used in mathematics such as dice games, we often see dice having properties in the form of numbers, other types of games such as roulette, lottery, poker, blackjack because all these games are always calculated based on the numbers that are bet and also by combinations of numbers, as far as I know, these are gambling games that are often combined between mathematics and gambling.

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December 03, 2023, 01:58:59 PM
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It is not like that when you become good at math you can win every poker bet. It only increases the chances of your winnings. Even with this "skill", luck plays a huge role when it comes to gambling. Being good at mathematics only gives you a boost that you can use to calculate the probability and win more often. But that does not give you the ability to win each and every bet.

This calculation is called card counting if I am not wrong. It required practice and time to master it. Then again, when you become good at it, you will be restricted from many platforms as this harms their business. Stop chasing something that only takes you deeper into the abyss. Enjoy the process as it is meant to be for entertainment purpose. The internet will only show your their wins but not the losses.
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December 04, 2023, 01:32:15 AM
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There is also another man called James Simons, who is named the greatest gambler of all, he made more money using math than Chris Ferguson, James net worth is over 20 billions, I was shocked, because I use to think it's impossible to gamble using any skills, this is a skill on a another level, I am mad that I am just knowing this not too long ago.

School is not important as 96% of what you learn won't be used in the real world to make money, but this 4% left is making a lot of people rich, math and gambling seems to go with each other, what do you guys think? Am I wrong or right?

For being the greatest gambler ever, his Wikipedia page makes no mention of anything related to gambling. The vast majority of James Simons' wealth comes from investments and being a hedge fund manager. He has been successful at creating investment strategies by developing mathematical models and analyzing patterns. While investing in financial markets can be seen as a form of gambling it is not the same thing in the traditional way that most people understand gambling.

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December 04, 2023, 05:11:31 AM
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This calculation is called card counting if I am not wrong. It required practice and time to master it. Then again, when you become good at it, you will be restricted from many platforms as this harms their business. Stop chasing something that only takes you deeper into the abyss. Enjoy the process as it is meant to be for entertainment purpose. The internet will only show your their wins but not the losses.

Nowadays that the seccurity system is already very sophisticted, I don't think someone could do this to a casino, maybe before but it cannot be working now. If we want to use our skills in math, we should do it the right way, a way to win and at the same time we won't violate the rules of a casino.

Casino is a thriving business, it's a big industry where it's growth every year is impressive, so that simply means they are consistent making money and they won't allow any cheating to ruin their business trend.

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December 04, 2023, 06:30:02 AM
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I am not very good at math and I don't even need to because it's not my thing, and I hate games that have something to do with math, this is why I am bad at solving puzzles at times but not all, I prefer the simplest games on online casinos, like completing a mission, or rolling dices, or slots.
If there is no luck in gambling, no math will help. No matter how well we research but that can not assist our gambling to win. Initially, data analysis is important in sports betting, but in practically, the opposite picture is often seen. There is no chance to call it unusual because we know that betting is associated with luck. I don't think a gambler will get much gambling if he relies only on math. Because we often see how a weak team wins against a big in various sports. Moreover, in order to win big, a gambler must take risks and bet in favor of the weaker team, otherwise he will not win big. Here the calculation will not be effective. I would say that both luck and math are needed.

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December 04, 2023, 02:33:13 PM
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Nowadays that the seccurity system is already very sophisticted, I don't think someone could do this to a casino, maybe before but it cannot be working now. If we want to use our skills in math, we should do it the right way, a way to win and at the same time we won't violate the rules of a casino.

Casino is a thriving business, it's a big industry where it's growth every year is impressive, so that simply means they are consistent making money and they won't allow any cheating to ruin their business trend.
For your information, card counting is not cheating. Rather it's an ability or some call it a skill. The casino owners do not let you use it in their platforms because it will bring loss to their business. And who in their right mind would want to make a loss in business? My point was in the previous post that you don't need to be so good at something that people will fear you. They will outcast you just because you are different from them.

Gambling is for entertainment and it should stay like that. If you run after skills and money to win in gambling, you will lose the sensation of enjoyment in that process.
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