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November 18, 2023, 01:29:45 PM
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Personally, I don't have any connections with guys who are addicted to gambling but I have people come over from other addictions for example alcoholic for rehab centres are the most effective compared to any other methods.

Before everything voicing out is the first thing they should do because we only know what we are going through and in this busy world everyone is focusing on their own life and definitely they will try to help when you seek them.
I have opposite experience of what you've said, I grew up having a family members being addicted in any type of gambling, Being in a lower class family, it's difficult to give an advice to seek professional help due to shortage of money and that's the main reason why their gambling addiction developed, in the hope that they will win and get money. Knowing them, it's hard to speak and give an advice because in the end they will take what I have to say badly.


But how a person can afford to gamble when they are financially weak?

If they are taking debt to satisfy their gambling urge then the situation will become trichy and the situation will turn based on who is addicted and who has the authority to the assets. But if there is the possibility to lend money for gambling then in my opinion it is possible to get financial help to help the addicted person medically.

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November 18, 2023, 01:33:28 PM
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I've never helped anyone who was addicted in gambling to stop his addiction and I don't think I can even help anyone do it because as far as I'm concerned, the only person who can stop a gambling addict from his addiction is the affected person. I've been a victim of gambling addiction before and no one was able to help me out of it until when I decided to help myself.

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November 18, 2023, 01:35:19 PM
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How many people have you been able to change after they get addicted to gambling? And what is there level of addiction?


Honestly, I'm not great at giving advice on gambling problems because I've personally struggled with addiction. From my experience, I realized that I was the only one who could solve my problem. I don't actively approach people even if I sense they might be addicted to gambling. Out of respect, I let them come to me if they want to share their problems, and I'm always willing to listen. I prefer not to intrude into their personal lives; I value privacy, and emotionally, I can be a bit fragile. If they're hurting, it affects me too.

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November 18, 2023, 01:47:57 PM
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the only person who can stop a gambling addict from his addiction is the affected person. I've been a victim of gambling addiction before and no one was able to help me out of it until when I decided to help myself.

This is not true. They are addicted because they can’t control their gambling activities by themselves or else they will not suffer addiction. Addiction is not simple to cure since you will never notice it by yourself alone that’s why therapy is needed for those who badly addicted because they can’t stop their mind on thinking about it.

But I will do the same to yours on not interfering since it’s very to deal with this kind of person because there sense of reasoning is not normal.

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November 18, 2023, 01:49:37 PM
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If you are facing gambling addictions and you are keeping it all to yourself, you are worsening your problem, find someone who is close to you and open up to them, letting it all out will bring you some relieve and hopefully you will get better, don't wait till you hit the rock bottom before you say it all out.


This opening up about gambling addiction from the gamblers is not an easy a task to do as it may seem. Most gamblers won't tell anyone (including their near and dear ones) that they are involved in gambling as they won't get a positive reaction from the other side. Most of the time, their family members will start questioning them about how much money he has wasted in order to fulfil their gambling desire.
There may be some serious reaction from the family and the person who was already gambling addicted may find himself in another problem, making his life even more miserable.

This is the bad & sad aspect of our society that instead of helping and solving the problems, we get furious about our money loss. Maybe in such cases, the family may not care much about the person who is addicted but care more about the money that he had lost.

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November 18, 2023, 02:06:24 PM
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I don't remember talking sense into any addicted gambler. After all, I've never had anyone confess their gambling addiction in front of me and express concern about their life and everything because I believe most gamblers don't do that and they barely accept the fact that they are addicted and need assistance, only a few realize that they are addicted and the addiction is ruining their lives and they need to find a way to control that before it's too late.

So, the count is zero for me, and I know that I won't be able to talk someone out of their addiction and make them ready to stop gambling just to get out of the addiction because it's not that easy for them to accept this since the urge to gamble gets very strong when a person has reached a high level in their addiction.

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I wouldn't consider myself an addict or a problem gambler. I've gone years without gambling and don't mind going off the thing for as long as needed. Frankly, I don't have gambling in my mind all that much. But it does take some philosophy to come to this mindset. I'll admit that once I did lose an amount that at the time was substantial to me. After this I really had to prep myself to understand that working and learning is more important from the momentary pleasure of winning n gambling.

Once you have good end enjoyable things for you to focus your life on, gambling would be nothing more on a hobby. Your bets should always be amounts that you wouldn't mind losing. Just as you throw some cash away at buying drinks every weekend for instance, going gambling should be limited to amounts you're comfortable never seeing again. But if you see yourself getting carried away easily and having thoughts that you must win back what you lost, just stop and think, are bigger losses worth it? Maybe it's time to just stop. So for anyone, a bad moment can be a big lesson. Don't let bad thoughts make you a problem gambler.

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I've never helped anyone who was addicted in gambling to stop his addiction and I don't think I can even help anyone do it because as far as I'm concerned, the only person who can stop a gambling addict from his addiction is the affected person. I've been a victim of gambling addiction before and no one was able to help me out of it until when I decided to help myself.

So True.. Addiction is not a joke, whatever addiction it is. No one can help the addicted people, untill the addicted people decides to help himself.
But while self-determination plays a crucial role in the recovery process, external support and intervention can make a significant difference in encouraging and guiding individuals towards seeking help and navigating the path to recovery. This needs expert, of course.

Social environment has big affection towards addicted people, if he want to recover from the addiction, he need to walk away form the place he live in, and find a better social environment. This is why play pivotal role in the recovery. Their love, understanding, and consistent encouragement can be a powerful force in helping individuals embark on the path to recovery.

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How many people have you been able to change after they get addicted to gambling? And what is there level of addiction?

I get that people look at gambling addiction in various ways.  My friends who like to gamble may seem like addicts to some, but I don't really think they are.  You can't just make blanket statements and say that anyone who gambles is an addict automatically.  Most folks I know actually have a decent grip on their gambling.  For them it's more like a hobby than an addiction and  addictions definitely a big issue, but at the same time, some people can enjoy gambling sensibly without it taking over their lives.

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If you are facing gambling addictions and you are keeping it all to yourself, you are worsening your problem, find someone who is close to you and open up to them, letting it all out will bring you some relieve and hopefully you will get better, don't wait till you hit the rock bottom before you say it all out.

That someone should be the right person to talk to about gambling addiction, not just an acquaintance, not just your relative it should be someone who understands addiction and depression, who can lead you to the right agency or professional that can treat your addiction.
Admitting addiction to gambling is one of the dilemmas of gamblers, they are lost on who to turn to if they want to get help that is why there are groups that specialize in this, these groups of former gambling addiction are the right group to talk, they know how to treat you and they know what you really want so reach to these groups and you are in the right path.
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How many people have you been able to change after they get addicted to gambling? And what is there level of addiction?

From my own experience, I get to know that those gamblers who are secretly gambling in their rooms and develop the addiction habit have the biggest problem, gambling addiction is like 'wanting more' and never getting enough, you will have all day thinking about gambling, maybe if you do this or you do that, maybe the result will be different.

I was able to talk sense into two different addicted gamblers and they also get help from family members, but the major reason why they too so long in their addiction is because they don't open up to anybody, they kept it all inside of them and it's killing them.

Things get better after they voiced out about their addiction and they are able to get help, any gambling addicts you know of? what method works for you when helping them?

If you are facing gambling addictions and you are keeping it all to yourself, you are worsening your problem, find someone who is close to you and open up to them, letting it all out will bring you some relieve and hopefully you will get better, don't wait till you hit the rock bottom before you say it all out.


I have a friend who is addicted to gambling. It's a good thing about my friend that he tells me about the gambling he does, how much money he loses and what else. At first it was just small bets until it grew little by little and he stopped going to school because of his gambling, it reached the point where he was borrowing money from me and I found out that he had already bet his school tuition fee too , I told him that what he is doing is wrong, what he is doing now is not worth it. He changed his future just for gambling. So what I do is I always invite him, I always talk to him, I'm always there for him so that he can avoid gambling. I made him realize that there are many better things to do than gambling, after a few months he became okay. They really just need someone to talk to and guide them when they lose their way while their addiction to gambling is not too deep.

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November 18, 2023, 03:02:39 PM
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I've never helped anyone who was addicted in gambling to stop his addiction and I don't think I can even help anyone do it because as far as I'm concerned, the only person who can stop a gambling addict from his addiction is the affected person. I've been a victim of gambling addiction before and no one was able to help me out of it until when I decided to help myself.

So True.. Addiction is not a joke, whatever addiction it is. No one can help the addicted people, untill the addicted people decides to help himself.
But while self-determination plays a crucial role in the recovery process, external support and intervention can make a significant difference in encouraging and guiding individuals towards seeking help and navigating the path to recovery. This needs expert, of course.

Social environment has big affection towards addicted people, if he want to recover from the addiction, he need to walk away form the place he live in, and find a better social environment. This is why play pivotal role in the recovery. Their love, understanding, and consistent encouragement can be a powerful force in helping individuals embark on the path to recovery.

Our environment is what keeps us in addiction, changing to a different zone can only be effective in some kinds of addiction. If a person is already in severe gambling addiction he may not be cured by traveling out of his environment. He needs a medical practitioner to help change his life through emotional techniques. Which helps the gambler to understand, he's truly in pain. And that the doctor can help him out of such pain. Whenever the addicted person decides to meet an expert, his problems becomes half solved. Where the problem sleeps is when the addicted person, doesn't have in mind what's actually their problem. They still enjoy the habit of gambling addiction. Such that, their mental health, despite being hurt, still claim to derive joy in gambling. It's like enjoying something that hurts at same time. The process will be difficult to quit. But, once the person is getting back to their senses and creating a routine that can work for them, in limiting their bad habit. The journey to change starts coming to light. The problem never gets solved, when kept secret. Saying it out, is also a good remedy in sunning the problem in the light, for others to see and contribute ways of solving them. Nobody would care if people doesn't know what's actually happening in the life of a gambling addict. Those who tend to stop and control themselves to become free from addiction are really strong people. I must commend you, Docnaster, for breaking free all by yourself. It is never easy to change people. The techniques required is not simple. Most times in trying to change them, the whole problem would worsen as the addicted person would begin to think we are the cause of their problems.

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November 18, 2023, 04:06:24 PM
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Things get better after they voiced out about their addiction and they are able to get help, any gambling addicts you know of? what method works for you when helping them?
Using the real life events in news about bad things that happened to gambling addicts as real examples for him would help a lot. Relating it to how gambling addiction got them depressed, make them later commit suicide. Gambling addiction also make them always lack money because they are always using all their money to gamble and sometimes they borrow money to gamble and lose. If he does not want his life to be like that, that thinking of gambling to earn that make him addicted and he should change. This may likely begin to convince him to stop addiction.
This won't help, it just won't help for sure am telling you. Take addicted smokers for example, irrespective of the diagram of a damaged lungs caused by smoking that's been labeled on the cigarettes packs as a warning to scare and discourage addicted smokers from continuing smoking and reduce or stop smoking they are not moved by it, neither does it make them worry about their health what the smoking can also cause to them. It is the same scenario with gambling addicts what can save them from the addiction is thorough rehabilitation from specialist in the field.
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Remember a secret shared is no more a secret but it is now a public information. Even though the person has not broadcast it in the public but for the fact that the information is not with you again it is a public information. And this not the first time this has been discussed that it is not easy to convince an addicted gamblers to leave gambling. And that should be a rigorous process to go about it because if you used force then you could spoiled everything for the process.

If the person goes out to casino centers to gamble then you can invite the person to your house and prepare a delicious meal for him and discuss with him to stop gambling and after the discussion, you gave the him small cash to buy things he likes because most of those addicted gamblers are doing it because of hunger and unemployment. Though you can't help him like that forever so if possible look for job for him to do to earn money monthly.









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November 18, 2023, 04:26:02 PM
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If its your mission to help those gambling addicts, youre gonna have to go understand what motivates them to gamble because its mostly for profit. They wanna make money, they'd not come back for more if they don't need money.

To certain friends they can share their addiction but to fellow family members, its going to complicate things for him. They hid it for reasons and sometimes it already was an issue before.

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How many people have you been able to change after they get addicted to gambling? And what is there level of addiction?

From my own experience, I get to know that those gamblers who are secretly gambling in their rooms and develop the addiction habit have the biggest problem, gambling addiction is like 'wanting more' and never getting enough, you will have all day thinking about gambling, maybe if you do this or you do that, maybe the result will be different.

I was able to talk sense into two different addicted gamblers and they also get help from family members, but the major reason why they too so long in their addiction is because they don't open up to anybody, they kept it all inside of them and it's killing them.

Things get better after they voiced out about their addiction and they are able to get help, any gambling addicts you know of? what method works for you when helping them?

If you are facing gambling addictions and you are keeping it all to yourself, you are worsening your problem, find someone who is close to you and open up to them, letting it all out will bring you some relieve and hopefully you will get better, don't wait till you hit the rock bottom before you say it all out.

I have to believe you on this because those who do things secretly have no knowledge about what they are doing, secret things are so hard to stop as no one will tell the person or advice the gambler to quit or just take a break.
Those that don't gamble for fun can not make there gambling life be a secret to others mostly their fellow gambler, but only their family members.
However, it is only the new gamblers that can do such things,whereby hiding their gamble life very far from their love ones to know, secret things are very hard to stop but if they can still make it open to others, then they can also get help from others.

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November 18, 2023, 04:40:06 PM
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Maybe we should really slow down in all this discussions patterning to gambling addiction, I personally think we have so much discussed about this that it looks like we have no other thing related to gambling to discuss aside from addiction in or to gambling.

Anyways, I only have had one friend who was really addicted to gambling, and this was a very long time ago, at this time, I myself wasn't a gambler, so I didnt know what gambling addiction was, all I knew was that he was gambling way too much than normal, and I did advice him from time to time to slow down with gambling because he was wasting too much money.

It was much later when I too started gambling, that I realized that my this friend of mine was dealing with gambling addiction, unfortunately, there was not enough time to help him since I relocated to another state the next year and soon we lost communication with each other, I hope he's doing well wherever he is now though.

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November 18, 2023, 04:45:25 PM
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Remember a secret shared is no more a secret but it is now a public information. Even though the person has not broadcast it in the public but for the fact that the information is not with you again it is a public information. And this not the first time this has been discussed that it is not easy to convince an addicted gamblers to leave gambling. And that should be a rigorous process to go about it because if you used force then you could spoiled everything for the process.

If the person goes out to casino centers to gamble then you can invite the person to your house and prepare a delicious meal for him and discuss with him to stop gambling and after the discussion, you gave the him small cash to buy things he likes because most of those addicted gamblers are doing it because of hunger and unemployment. Though you can't help him like that forever so if possible look for job for him to do to earn money monthly.

The idea of being kind to the gamblers is also a great one, as they lack the love from society and family. Everyone wants to stay clear from them and wouldn't want to associate with an addict. But that's really wrong. Most of them for into deeper trouble in life, due to the ill treatment they get from loved ones. With your idea of inviting them to our homes and offering them good relationship can alter their compulsive gambling thoughts to a better reason in life. They could begin visiting the house once a while. But, what could be the fate of the player or you when he goes back to gamble with the funds you've offered them. Trying to fix them into a business or job when they're not yet free from addiction is very risky. Because when they make things difficult for the company, messing with their funds, it can derail your reputation for referring such a nuisance into their business. The goal remains trying to change them first, by providing any possible alternative, that can keep them away from gambling. Or visiting gambling shops. It could be channeled to video games or its type. Although, it's quite expensive to do that for somebody, but the whole process worth it, and he'll always be grateful to have known a person like you. Who volunteered to make out the best in them.

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November 18, 2023, 05:40:57 PM
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Good to know that these people are getting and being helped by their mutuals. It is indeed amazing especially those who managed to escape addiction not only in gambling but also with other related conditions. Truly a display of courage ‘coz no matter how we would want to help people get out of addiction, if they are neglecting and being avoidant of the solution we tend to offer, then nothing would happen. They also play a key-role in those instances not only people who offered the help.
How many people have you been able to change after they get addicted to gambling? And what is there level of addiction?

From my own experience, I get to know that those gamblers who are secretly gambling in their rooms and develop the addiction habit have the biggest problem, gambling addiction is like 'wanting more' and never getting enough, you will have all day thinking about gambling, maybe if you do this or you do that, maybe the result will be different.

I was able to talk sense into two different addicted gamblers and they also get help from family members, but the major reason why they too so long in their addiction is because they don't open up to anybody, they kept it all inside of them and it's killing them.

Things get better after they voiced out about their addiction and they are able to get help, any gambling addicts you know of? what method works for you when helping them?

If you are facing gambling addictions and you are keeping it all to yourself, you are worsening your problem, find someone who is close to you and open up to them, letting it all out will bring you some relieve and hopefully you will get better, don't wait till you hit the rock bottom before you say it all out.

I have to believe you on this because those who do things secretly have no knowledge about what they are doing, secret things are so hard to stop as no one will tell the person or advice the gambler to quit or just take a break.
Those that don't gamble for fun can not make there gambling life be a secret to others mostly their fellow gambler, but only their family members.
However, it is only the new gamblers that can do such things,whereby hiding their gamble life very far from their love ones to know, secret things are very hard to stop but if they can still make it open to others, then they can also get help from others.
This is really a problem. But with addiction it is a case wherein the individual is only aware of what addiction is but not aware of how symptoms are being displayed through behavior and drive. The initiative will always come from the helper but the one being helped should also exert effort to create the changes.

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November 18, 2023, 05:47:38 PM
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How many people have you been able to change after they get addicted to gambling? And what is there level of addiction?

From my own experience, I get to know that those gamblers who are secretly gambling in their rooms and develop the addiction habit have the biggest problem, gambling addiction is like 'wanting more' and never getting enough, you will have all day thinking about gambling, maybe if you do this or you do that, maybe the result will be different.

I was able to talk sense into two different addicted gamblers and they also get help from family members, but the major reason why they too so long in their addiction is because they don't open up to anybody, they kept it all inside of them and it's killing them.

Things get better after they voiced out about their addiction and they are able to get help, any gambling addicts you know of? what method works for you when helping them?

If you are facing gambling addictions and you are keeping it all to yourself, you are worsening your problem, find someone who is close to you and open up to them, letting it all out will bring you some relieve and hopefully you will get better, don't wait till you hit the rock bottom before you say it all out.


Have never dealt with a rock bottom gambler in my life.  A lot of my friends like me are casual betters and just lay bets on sports to make them more entertaining, fantasy football leagues etc.  Same thing with brick and mortar casinos, go there to have fun.  No one has had life issues like losing a family, house, missing bills etc.  But I'd have to say it's difficult to alter anyone addicted to anything.  Most of the time they need professional help for permanent results.

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