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November 20, 2023, 11:00:39 AM
Last edit: November 20, 2023, 12:10:36 PM by angrybirdy
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Yes , I liked your point of view. Bitcoin is best to save your money from inflation . Otherwise your money will be spend by government. If you deposit your money in bank ,bank will get interest by giving loan to needy people. So , anyone can't be financially strong by deposit your money in bank . Bitcoin will give 600 percent returns in 5 to 10 years.  If someone want to deposit your money for short period of time ,then banks are good for that person.Because cryptocurrency give returns over time , short term investment can't give high returns and money will be waste.
Before, I used to save money in banks and I'm not aware that I only get lower interest from the money that I've deposited in a long run that's why I decided to invest my money in other ways, not just letting it sleeping in my bank account. I realized that if you want to be financially stable, you need to go out of your comfort zone and don't be afraid to try new and risky things like investing in stocks, Real estate, golds and buying coins here in crypto that I know for sure that the value will increase with much higher value than saving it in a bank in the future.



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November 20, 2023, 11:40:20 AM
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OP, your message is clear and it is been appreciated because some people fail to think towards this direction, naira at this point is valueless and this because Nigerian Government has continue to fail in doing the needful, how will a construction company make decision for you to pay them in the currency of their choice, indirectly rendering your currency useless, when your currency cannot longer be used to pay national and foreign debt, what do you expect, my take on this is, making your savings and investment in naira as a Nigerian is the best option, a country that had multiple exchange rate will continue to experience lapses in terms of currency value, I believe soon banks will look for customers but they won't see.

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November 20, 2023, 01:17:41 PM
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If you can make interest and profit in a bank for storing your money for ten years, how about holding Bitcoin for ten years? How much will our capital grow? that will be used here when the ten years are up?

Most likely, you are already wealthy because each time Bitcoin's halving occurs, it increases by x10 more than the earned capital that we can employ here. And I've never seen the market price of bitcoin decline with each halving rather than constantly increasing.

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November 20, 2023, 03:54:23 PM
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Before, I used to save money in banks and I'm not aware that I only get lower interest from the money that I've deposited in a long run that's why I decided to invest my money in other ways, not just letting it sleeping in my bank account. I realized that if you want to be financially stable, you need to go out of your comfort zone and don't be afraid to try new and risky things like investing in stocks, Real estate, golds and buying coins here in crypto that I know for sure that the value will increase with much higher value than saving it in a bank in the future.

Of course if you invest your fiat in real estate, you will be better in the future because it will appreciate more rather than keeping your money in bank. If you keep money in bank you are only giving the bank the opportunity to loan it out to someone at a higher interest rate that won't be accrued to you and moreover at the end when you get the money back, you will get same amount but the value to purchasing power would have depreciated because of inflation. It is better keeping your money in real estate or crypto especially bitcoin.

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November 20, 2023, 04:37:41 PM
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It's cause bitcoin's deflationary, and well fiat is inflationary in nature. The longer you hold your money on the bank, the more it's going to be worthless, and the fact that you're getting paid in peanuts is even more disrespectful lol, they're literally getting rich from all the investments and stuff that they made from your money, and when they fall short the government can bail them out as if nothing had happened. Isn't that amazing??
Bitcoin at the very least brings the power of currency back to the people, and that's what makes it feel like life gets cheaper (or easier for that matter). You wait for bitcoin to increase in value, and it often does cause it's cyclical in nature, and you get to reap benefits when the timing is right.

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November 20, 2023, 04:38:39 PM
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I don't know about you guys, but for me, I have discovered that the longer one save in fiat, that is, hold fiat, the more life gets expensive, this is because fiat is known to lose value overtime for several reasons, when fiat loses value, they lose purchasing power, goods and services become more expensive, which in turn makes life more expensive.
It is not life that becomes more expensive, but money that becomes cheaper. This is how the world economy works with the endless emission of money.

This experience I coined from the current economic hardship my country is going through.
The naira lost significant value against some other major fiat currencies, most especially the dollar, this has made things in the country very expensive, which has also made life very expensive to live here in Nigeria..
This happens in every country in the world, even in the birthplace of the dollar. The only difference is that in some places it is pronounced, and in others it is barely noticeable.

But for those who have been saving investing, saving in bitcoin, and maybe some other major cryptocurrencies, life is cheaper as we all have seen that overtime, the price of bitcoin increases, and when this happens, major altcoins too experience the boom, thereby making good profit for those who spent fiat accumulating when the prices are low.
I would not say that the opportunity to overtake inflation and increase money should be called cheaper living.

This is why I personally implore us all to be wise in how we choose to save our money,
Keep one million dollars in the bank for 10 years, by the time the 10 years is over, you pull out your one million and discover it can't buy much because things are no longer at the same price as they were 10 years ago.
Storing wealth in money, or even in a bank, is utter stupidity. Even accrued interest on deposits will not help avoid the depreciation of money.

But keep one million dollars in bitcoin for 10 years, by the end of the 10 years, one million dollars must have turned into 5 million dollars or more, and even if things have become more expensive in the market, this money will pay for it all and you will still have a lot of money left to do other things.
You'll have those 10 years to do other things while you wait for your 1 million to turn into 5 million. Smiley

But no one knows what will happen in 10 years - whether your 1 million will turn into 5 million or 1 million into $100. The probability of the 2nd outcome of events also exists, doesn’t it (although the probability is about zero).

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November 20, 2023, 05:18:31 PM
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Investment is really worthy and especially in bitcoin so whenever someone decides to save money then investment in Bitcoin will enhance their chances of gaining greater revenue. Major altcoins also process to becoming valuable during Bull run but believing all altcoins is not much easy because the main reason of large number of people to loss money is only due to their misunderstanding and collapsing of altcoins.

People are choosing altcoins because they get the knowledge about altcoins that they gives maximum return through boosting value but I think if someone share about altcoins then they should also mention that altcoins are not all trusted. The only trusted currency is bitcoin so if someone wants to put millions of dollars in bitcoin then it is not a matters of worries but if someone use this million dollars for altcoins investment then he is risking his money.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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November 21, 2023, 06:51:03 AM
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Investment is really worthy and especially in bitcoin so whenever someone decides to save money then investment in Bitcoin will enhance their chances of gaining greater revenue. Major altcoins also process to becoming valuable during Bull run but believing all altcoins is not much easy because the main reason of large number of people to loss money is only due to their misunderstanding and collapsing of altcoins.

People are choosing altcoins because they get the knowledge about altcoins that they gives maximum return through boosting value but I think if someone share about altcoins then they should also mention that altcoins are not all trusted. The only trusted currency is bitcoin so if someone wants to put millions of dollars in bitcoin then it is not a matters of worries but if someone use this million dollars for altcoins investment then he is risking his money.

I just thought about this now: if, with bitcoin, it is possible that our money will be x5 or more of our capital after 10 years, what about Ethereum, Litecoins, and BCH? Do you think you can only get x5 and x10 profit from the capital we used?

Guaranteed more than 20x the earnings that we will earn in the market, that means we will get higher earnings in ETH, LTC, BCH, and other cryptocurrencies that are in the top 30 at least, especially when the bull run comes. What about what do you think?

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November 21, 2023, 09:19:44 AM
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If you can make interest and profit in a bank for storing your money for ten years, how about holding Bitcoin for ten years? How much will our capital grow? that will be used here when the ten years are up?
Your money has the potential to grow 100 times from the initial amount. but no guarantee


Most likely, you are already wealthy because each time Bitcoin's halving occurs, it increases by x10 more than the earned capital that we can employ here. And I've never seen the market price of bitcoin decline with each halving rather than constantly increasing.
Every timeframe yields different results. After the all-time high, prices may drop, but on an annual basis, they generally keep rising. It all depends on when you enter and exit Bitcoin... your buying and selling points should be profitable if your goal is investment. Just stash away your money until you really need it. Bitcoin liquidity is solid, so even if you're in a tight spot and have to sell BTC in the future, it should still be profitable.
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November 21, 2023, 11:01:47 AM
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Totally agree to this. I’m not this kind of financially independent before I start on Bitcoin investments and just relying to my salary. Everything changes when I invest on Bitcoin 2015 using my major savings on bank but the amount is not that huge at that time. I put my future in Bitcoin that and I’m so glad that my gamble works a lot.

Right now I still have some of my early Bitcoin investments while I barely touch my salary since I earn a lot now on trading and my investment. This will not happened if I just stay working and never venture to Bitcoin. So yeah, Life is indeed cheaper if you invest in Bitcoin in long term.

Investments that will yield significant returns in the long term also require not a small investment. And unfortunately for many people this is an unacceptable solution, because their standard of living does not even allow them to save a couple of hundred dollars a month. Secondly, even those who can save a couple hundred dollars, can not keep them untouched for 3-5 years, because this is the period that now allows you to earn on the volatility of cryptocurrency, if we talk about "passive investments". Therefore, your approach, unfortunately, cannot suit the "mass consumer".
Systemic poverty of the population in many countries is a big problem, and it "ties hands and feet" and actually leaves no chance to correct the situation.

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I definitely agree with this.

Investing your fiat in Bitcoin rather than keeping it in a bank is more profitable in the long run. Saving in the bank is the traditional way of "saving" money, the majority didn't know that doing such thing is a way of making someone take advantage of your money to earn money by making a loan, etc. For me, cryptocurrency is safe from inflation unlike fiat, the only thing that's risky about it is its volatility.
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No, life isn't cheaper with crypto. Crypto just preserves it's value better than fiat money(in the long term).
That doesn't mean that everything(goods, services, food, gas, etc.) is getting cheaper. The global resources and commodities are limited, while the global population is growing. The demand of that population for better goods and services is also growing. This means that the value/price of all resources is determined to only go up in the long term. Money printing and currency devaluation only makes things worse.
If something costs 100 USD, you can't buy it for 80 USD by using crypto.

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I don't know about you guys, but for me, I have discovered that the longer one save in fiat, that is, hold fiat, the more life gets expensive, this is because fiat is known to lose value overtime for several reasons, when fiat loses value, they lose purchasing power, goods and services become more expensive, which in turn makes life more expensive.

Fiat loses its value due to inflation and crypto loses its value for market correction. Why are you comparing these two in this way? Bitcoin is one of the assets that can save your wealth from losing its value so it is a perfect example of a asset that can overcome inflation but it also has risks associated with it. Your daily life needs assets that you can burn to fulfill your needs so in this case, fiat is perfect as it can not lose 25% of its value over night which can happen if you are holding bitcoin. For everyday transactions, fiat is good but if you are planning to save your wealth for the long term then saving your fiat currencies in the bank is a very poor choice as bank interest can be lower than inflation sometimes. Your fiat will lose its value over a long period of time if you keep it in your savings account in a bank. In this case buying bitcoin and keeping it in your custody can help you save your wealth from losing its value. 

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I don't know about you guys, but for me, I have discovered that the longer one save in fiat, that is, hold fiat, the more life gets expensive, this is because fiat is known to lose value overtime for several reasons, when fiat loses value, they lose purchasing power, goods and services become more expensive, which in turn makes life more expensive.

This experience I coined from the current economic hardship my country is going through.
The naira lost significant value against some other major fiat currencies, most especially the dollar, this has made things in the country very expensive, which has also made life very expensive to live here in Nigeria.

But for those who have been saving investing, saving in bitcoin, and maybe some other major cryptocurrencies, life is cheaper as we all have seen that overtime, the price of bitcoin increases, and when this happens, major altcoins too experience the boom, thereby making good profit for those who spent fiat accumulating when the prices are low.



We have the same situation as your country, our currency Pakistan Rupee is getting devalued against the dollar and it has depreciated a lot in the last few years. It has also taken a toll on our economy, and with it the prices of all the things that we need in the market have gone up manifold. People who kept money in banks or kept it in pkr, it got devalued. Now this money cannot buy things that could be bought easily a few years ago.

So I have invested most of my money in the cryptocurrency market, but one thing should be remembered that you should always invest at the right time, because I too, due to inexperience, invested when the market was on the rise, and then the market started to fall. However, it is not necessary to invest only in cryptocurrency. Real estate, gold and many other places can be invested, and one should never invest in one place, because the cryptocurrency market is still alive, it could end tomorrow.



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November 21, 2023, 03:12:06 PM
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It's not cheaper for me if I bring into account some considerations. It only presents better opportunities or rather I say, alternatives to earning and financial freedom.

The dollar rise in exchange rates has also been in close contention with the price of BTC currently and with the high charges, other cryptos have been on arms to do better and offer better service upgrades to the customers that have embraced the idea of cryptocurrencies.
Yes. We should also consider some things or their disadvantages, and not only pure advantages. We shouldn't forget that BTC is a highly volatile coin. Which means, its value can also go down and most of the times stay in a dump position. BTC is an opportunity if you know how to utilize it well.

The dollar itself and other local currencies can be said as a contender to BTC because both offers different functions. But for now, BTC has a lesser user than them because it is newer and also a little bit complicated. I still believe that this number can improve later on, especially when many countries have joined the movement and then made BTC a legal tender.

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The dollar itself and other local currencies can be said as a contender to BTC because both offers different functions. But for now, BTC has a lesser user than them because it is newer and also a little bit complicated. I still believe that this number can improve later on, especially when many countries have joined the movement and then made BTC a legal tender.
The dollar or local currency is already legal tender and if it is said to be a competitor to Bitcoin in my opinion it is not appropriate.
Bitcoin is an Optional Digital Asset that can be chosen or not and still payments using traditional currencies are an option.

Adopting and making Bitcoin legal tender requires some consideration and research so as not to have a negative impact on traditional currencies as the primary payment.
Bitcoin is complicated for beginners who don't know what Bitcoin and crypto are, and also its fluctuating price makes this more risky.

Even in my country Bitcoin is still used as a commodity asset and should not exceed these regulations.
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November 21, 2023, 04:50:55 PM
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That happens in many countries. That is why we are advised to have investments in the form of crypto or gold. This is to anticipate the worst possibility that could happen in our country. By having investments, at least we can prepare ourselves and our families.
Was curious about how bitcoin will be in the future if we all realize what is happening today with fiat. Anticipating the worst is a nice idea to prepare for the future, but then relying on bitcoin might be a 50/50 chance of beating inflation.

Investing in Bitcoin has provided clear evidence that Bitcoin is the best choice we have today. Even though there are still many people who still choose gold, we can also still choose Bitcoin as our main investment. A million dollars that we save in the bank won't be able to buy many things in the future. But a million dollars in bitcoin could have a higher price in the future.
Not so sure about bitcoin, we know how several institutions are accumulating more and more of bitcoins which could be the worst possible way of having a currency that depends on decentralization.

For this reason, we have to prepare ourselves from now on before everything changes and we start too late.
Preparation is better than cure. If we start saving today, I guess, in any way, from fiat to gold or bitcoin this will be better than nothing at all.
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We have the same situation as your country, our currency Pakistan Rupee is getting devalued against the dollar and it has depreciated a lot in the last few years. It has also taken a toll on our economy, and with it the prices of all the things that we need in the market have gone up manifold. People who kept money in banks or kept it in pkr, it got devalued. Now this money cannot buy things that could be bought easily a few years ago.
Its a tough situation to counter back there. Valuation being pegged to USD and most articles having a USD reference makes things costlier than before.

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So I have invested most of my money in the cryptocurrency market, but one thing should be remembered that you should always invest at the right time, because I too, due to inexperience, invested when the market was on the rise, and then the market started to fall. However, it is not necessary to invest only in cryptocurrency. Real estate, gold and many other places can be invested, and one should never invest in one place, because the cryptocurrency market is still alive, it could end tomorrow.
Most of the money? I hope you still have liquid cash at hand because that will be needed in times of emergencies and you need it for daily spending. How are you keeping up the daily necessities like groceries, bills and all?

The crypto market will not end, but your country's legal approach to crypto may become strict and then things will go underground just like it has happened in Bangladesh. Hopefully as bigger names accept crypto, less developed countries will also follow suit.

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Before, I used to save money in banks and I'm not aware that I only get lower interest from the money that I've deposited in a long run that's why I decided to invest my money in other ways, not just letting it sleeping in my bank account. I realized that if you want to be financially stable, you need to go out of your comfort zone and don't be afraid to try new and risky things like investing in stocks, Real estate, golds and buying coins here in crypto that I know for sure that the value will increase with much higher value than saving it in a bank in the future.
If you keep your money in the bank you are sure that you will not lose. Even if the bank goes bankrupt you can always get back your savings because many banks are insured by deposit banks. Therefore it is not wrong to state that keeping money in banks is less risky because you will also get the same amount you invested.  But as OP has rightly stated keeping money in the bank in a country that experiences inflation is not worth it. This money will gradually become worthless, especially in nations that are experiencing double-digit inflation.

Keeping money in Bitcoin is more riskier compared to fiat saving but it could be a good hedge against inflation. It is risky because you cannot predict the price at a given time. This is why it will be a good option for long-term investors. The summary is that if you are not a good risk taker, it is better to diversify to other sectors like keeping fiat money in fixed deposits or investing in real estate but we all know that the returns from Bitcoin investment outshines these lesser risk investments.

So I have invested most of my money in the cryptocurrency market, but one thing should b :)e remembered that you should always invest at the right time, because I too, due to inexperience, invested when the market was on the rise, and then the market started to fall. However, it is not necessary to invest only in cryptocurrency. Real estate, gold and many other places can be invested, and one should never invest in one place, because the cryptocurrency market is still alive, it could end tomorrow.
Most people invest in the crypto space when the market is pumping. They are moved to invest by the FOMO but this is not the best time to buy any coin. The best approach should be the application of DCA in buying and keeping.

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But for those who have been saving investing, saving in bitcoin, and maybe some other major cryptocurrencies, life is cheaper as we all have seen that overtime, the price of bitcoin increases, and when this happens, major altcoins too experience the boom, thereby making good profit for those who spent fiat accumulating when the prices are low.

Not to those people who invested when Bitcoin was at $69k.  They will only agree with your statement if the time comes that Bitcoin breaks its ATH. 

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But keep one million dollars in bitcoin for 10 years, by the end of the 10 years, one million dollars must have turned into 5 million dollars or more, and even if things have become more expensive in the market, this money will pay for it all and you will still have a lot of money left to do other things.

This is if Bitcoin continues to appreciate.  We cannot conclude that Bitcoin price after 10 years will continue to appreciate since we all know that the future is uncertain.  Bitcoin price may stagnate, crash, or surge in the future and we are not certain which of these will happen.  This all depends on different factors that happens along the way.  What happened in the past 10 years of Bitcoin may have the possibility to repeat but more or less it is also possible that it will not do the same performance as it did prior to the first 10 years of Bitcoin.

We should always give reservations to the what-ifs and know that Bitcoin is not totally risk-free. 

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