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[JackpotRacer]

You free money is marketing, you choose. Doesn't mean winner of bonuses have no right to withdrawal.

I totally agree with the OP. very good point

I invite every reader here to visit my scam accusation thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474047.0

check the pic how many free roll participants Blackjack.fun has now after offering 1 TRX instead 1 USDT for the winner
pic was take few minutes ago


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[holydarkness]

[...]
I never trying changing or IP but, at my country that is called as IP Public Dynamic, can someone share about this things? I am explain how that IP works at my ecosystem here. [...]

Rest assured that we're familiar with dynamic IP. Simplified, the IP is not "locked" to someone, and instead it changes each time the user turn on and off their connection.

[...]
I did KYC means, I do not wrong things. If I did violates why I send them my data ID? is suciede. [...]

Not saying that you did this, but... if you've been around this board for quite some time, trust me, you'll understand that people go to a length to fake KYC, borrowing other's ID and make up lies.

[...]
If you are claim more than 10, it's your time to make them as public how your system is works. Open your claim as transparency more than 10 account.

Yeah... no, that won't happen. Casinos, well, most casinos, invested a lot in their anti-fraud system, they guard their detection method with their lives.

[...] not able access the account now, even if im able their system is not able to show history in tx id. you can try deposit then find out where is tx id.

Im never deposit in USDT dont mean I didn't deposit cryptos, you are just eat bait from farming never deposit to judge me.

Umm... doesn't a transaction works in two ways? Might be a bit unconventional, but if you can't show the deposit history, you can show it from the other end, the TXID of your withdrawal from your originating address into the blackjack's wallet?

And oh, Kecil-Kecilan, please refrain from posting consecutive posts, it's against forum rules.

[...]
By changing IP does not mean that we dont see your accounts. It is 2023

[...]

Hi, thank you for popping up here. You gave an explanation on PM [nothing sensitive involved], allow me to address this matter publicly here instead of privately so people can follow what happens.

Regarding the OP being detected of multiacc-ing, how sure are we that those accounts are indeed operated by the same user and OP's rebuttal above is not what actually happens here? Do you have other findings to tie OP with those accounts other than similar IP [be it due to VPN or dynamic address], other device fingerprints?

[Kecil-Kecilan]

@holydarkness sorry for against the rules, i newbie to understanding.

About tx id, i'm not always saving deposit address, but lucky i have still have one now.

Lets make it straight.
Their said im for framing account, which mean which account im not understand. Share if their statement with responsibility.

But you can see answers? They said im farming account? Mean while i got profit from their campaign.

Got profit from campaign on is fine aslong follow the rules.


They not able paid the campaign as my winning, i have not bounty hounters, and if yes i never make deposit, doesnt mean there are broken rules for got profit on campaign.

I don't know how to tell you about the truth, and i dont know if you on my side which way you will choose.

[JackpotRacer]

Lets make it straight.
Their said im for framing account, which mean which account im not understand. Share if their statement with responsibility.

But you can see answers? They said im farming account? Mean while i got profit from their campaign.

Got profit from campaign on is fine aslong follow the rules.


They not able paid the campaign as my winning, i have not bounty hounters, and if yes i never make deposit, doesnt mean there are broken rules for got profit on campaign.

I don't know how to tell you about the truth, and i dont know if you on my side which way you will choose.

just like that!
if a casino offers free rolls, it is an advertising gimmick and fine. but if they do not pay the winners of the free rolls, then I call it scam!
Also not fixing the known bugs and then giving the reason that the winners will not be paid because they are exploiting the bugs LOOOOOOL = Shame!

Now I know why Blackjack.fun coder and owner at the same time does not fix the known bugs!
Actually, he is exploiting poor players of his advertising gimmick of free roll tournaments.

[Mahdirakib]

~snip~ that OP did not deposit anything and got his winning from... bonus and [I'm not sure I understand this part correctly] campaign payment? I think he refers to some tipping, and the likes?

You already know the answer from the replies of OP. And it is, he has made deposits in other crypto. But BlackJack.fun was giving the free roll tournament prize in USDT. OP has received all the USDT from the bonuses and promotions.

By changing IP does not mean that we dont see your accounts. It is 2023

Well, there are a lot of advance methods to determine the multiple accounts. Have you found similarities between those accounts browser cookies or device fingerprinting? Was there connection between the deposit/withdrawal address of the connected accounts? Some casinos also determine the multiple accounts through the betting patterns and bonus hunting system of the user. You have to state the exact reason here.

[holydarkness]

@holydarkness sorry for against the rules, i newbie to understanding.

About tx id, i'm not always saving deposit address, but lucky i have still have one now.

[...]

O...kay? If you can provide it here, it'll be nice, it'll probably add some weight to your side, given blackjack's representative said you never deposit [USDT]. If it's simply because you deposited in other currencies, it might give a hint that it's not the only misunderstanding they have with you, and probably the IP detection was also... misunderstood.

[JackpotRacer]

@holydarkness sorry for against the rules, i newbie to understanding.

About tx id, i'm not always saving deposit address, but lucky i have still have one now.

[...]

O...kay? If you can provide it here, it'll be nice, it'll probably add some weight to your side, given blackjack's representative said you never deposit [USDT]. If it's simply because you deposited in other currencies, it might give a hint that it's not the only misunderstanding they have with you, and probably the IP detection was also... misunderstood.

yeah only misunderstandings

I almost fell off my chair, thank you for the laugh.

It is time for you to step out of your matrix.

[Kecil-Kecilan]

@holydarkness sorry for against the rules, i newbie to understanding.

About tx id, i'm not always saving deposit address, but lucky i have still have one now.

[...]

O...kay? If you can provide it here, it'll be nice, it'll probably add some weight to your side, given blackjack's representative said you never deposit [USDT]. If it's simply because you deposited in other currencies, it might give a hint that it's not the only misunderstanding they have with you, and probably the IP detection was also... misunderstood.

I still have my last deposit with TRON, Yes I can provide here.

What is different :
A. Winning never deposit.
B. Winning had deposit.

As long those follow the rules and qualified as winner that is fair way.

As you can see, they not able provide of advocacy how I am broke the rules. How can you believe company based bigger they are?

[holydarkness]

@holydarkness sorry for against the rules, i newbie to understanding.

About tx id, i'm not always saving deposit address, but lucky i have still have one now.

[...]

O...kay? If you can provide it here, it'll be nice, it'll probably add some weight to your side, given blackjack's representative said you never deposit [USDT]. If it's simply because you deposited in other currencies, it might give a hint that it's not the only misunderstanding they have with you, and probably the IP detection was also... misunderstood.

I still have my last deposit with TRON, Yes I can provide here.

What is different :
A. Winning never deposit.
B. Winning had deposit.

As long those follow the rules and qualified as winner that is fair way.

As you can see, they not able provide of advocacy how I am broke the rules. How can you believe company based bigger they are?

If you can provide it here, it'll be much appreciated. Aside from that deposit, do you remember the total fund you've deposited into Blackjack.fun? Ballpark is ok.

As for what difference does it make between winning but never deposit or winning with deposit, for me, it affect whether this case can be considered a scam or not. I think a scam needs a monetary loss or certain damage being involved. Further, it also affect the degree of severity of this case and [suppose it's escalated to having to leave a feedback because they're proven to be the one being wrong here] what tag should be given. If there's no monetary loss [i.e. only time loss due to spending them on the platform], I don't think I should or would leave a negative feedback, as there is no risk of losing fund dealing with them.

[JackpotRacer]

@holydarkness sorry for against the rules, i newbie to understanding.

About tx id, i'm not always saving deposit address, but lucky i have still have one now.

[...]

O...kay? If you can provide it here, it'll be nice, it'll probably add some weight to your side, given blackjack's representative said you never deposit [USDT]. If it's simply because you deposited in other currencies, it might give a hint that it's not the only misunderstanding they have with you, and probably the IP detection was also... misunderstood.

I still have my last deposit with TRON, Yes I can provide here.

What is different :
A. Winning never deposit.
B. Winning had deposit.

As long those follow the rules and qualified as winner that is fair way.

As you can see, they not able provide of advocacy how I am broke the rules. How can you believe company based bigger they are?

If you can provide it here, it'll be much appreciated. Aside from that deposit, do you remember the total fund you've deposited into Blackjack.fun? Ballpark is ok.

As for what difference does it make between winning but never deposit or winning with deposit, for me, it affect whether this case can be considered a scam or not. I think a scam needs a monetary loss or certain damage being involved. Further, it also affect the degree of severity of this case and [suppose it's escalated to having to leave a feedback because they're proven to be the one being wrong here] what tag should be given. If there's no monetary loss [i.e. only time loss due to spending them on the platform], I don't think I should or would leave a negative feedback, as there is no risk of losing fund dealing with them.

again you are totally wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

a casino which offers any free rolls or free spins or whatever as free advertisement to get players registration and that they play and especially here for a beta and to get feedback and then will not pay the players because they did not deposit this is a
SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Change your Blackjack.fun rose-colored glasses into a real pair of glasses


OP @Kecil-Kecilan

don't listen to this BS

sure if you have any tx proof just bring it in but Blackjack.fun owner and coder should check the tx logs and game logs to show their proof and exactly this he is not showing. that does it tell us?

and do not forget to visit  my scam accusation against Blackjack.fun
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474047.0

[Kecil-Kecilan]

[...]

[...]

[...]

If you can provide it here, it'll be much appreciated. Aside from that deposit, do you remember the total fund you've deposited into Blackjack.fun? Ballpark is ok.

As for what difference does it make between winning but never deposit or winning with deposit, for me, it affect whether this case can be considered a scam or not. I think a scam needs a monetary loss or certain damage being involved. Further, it also affect the degree of severity of this case and [suppose it's escalated to having to leave a feedback because they're proven to be the one being wrong here] what tag should be given. If there's no monetary loss [i.e. only time loss due to spending them on the platform], I don't think I should or would leave a negative feedback, as there is no risk of losing fund dealing with them.

Here is my last deposit : https://tronscan.org/#/transaction/6213d6ca513533ade113a0fa76950a5052c25a2c6dfa4e6879516479def758c4

Only saving that cause a few days ago.

Please count I also do some bet and win, I did betting with total rest unpaid is 117USD.

[...]
OP @Kecil-Kecilan

don't listen to this BS

sure if you have any tx proof just bring it in but Blackjack.fun owner and coder should check the tx logs and game logs to show their proof and exactly this he is not showing. that does it tell us?

and do not forget to visit  my scam accusation against Blackjack.fun
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474047.0

Since they claim me as farming, I still waiting for that.

[holydarkness]

If you can provide it here, it'll be much appreciated. Aside from that deposit, do you remember the total fund you've deposited into Blackjack.fun? Ballpark is ok.

As for what difference does it make between winning but never deposit or winning with deposit, for me, it affect whether this case can be considered a scam or not. I think a scam needs a monetary loss or certain damage being involved. Further, it also affect the degree of severity of this case and [suppose it's escalated to having to leave a feedback because they're proven to be the one being wrong here] what tag should be given. If there's no monetary loss [i.e. only time loss due to spending them on the platform], I don't think I should or would leave a negative feedback, as there is no risk of losing fund dealing with them.

Here is my last deposit : https://tronscan.org/#/transaction/6213d6ca513533ade113a0fa76950a5052c25a2c6dfa4e6879516479def758c4

Only saving that cause a few days ago.

Please count I also do some bet and win, I did betting with total rest unpaid is 117USD.

[...]

Thank you for the hash. I believe TMfC...qSeU is the deposit address for Blackjack.fun? You've at least deposited 276 TRX into the account. Small number [arguably] but still, it shows that you've deposited some fund into the platform instead of what Blackjack claimed, that you deposited nothing. Granted, their claim is USDT, but given you've deposited some fund into their platform, the claim shouldn't even be stated as it bears no weight and have a tendency of misleading.


I'd like to know Blackjack.fun's response for my previous question, whether there's another points that ties those several accounts to OP's, be it device fingerprints or perhaps those alleged alt accounts also perform KYC with similar ID as OP used for his KYC? Because if it's just IP address, I think it's not enough to conclude that the IPs belong to OP, given OP's country uses dynamic IP address.

[JackpotRacer]

If you can provide it here, it'll be much appreciated. Aside from that deposit, do you remember the total fund you've deposited into Blackjack.fun? Ballpark is ok.

As for what difference does it make between winning but never deposit or winning with deposit, for me, it affect whether this case can be considered a scam or not. I think a scam needs a monetary loss or certain damage being involved. Further, it also affect the degree of severity of this case and [suppose it's escalated to having to leave a feedback because they're proven to be the one being wrong here] what tag should be given. If there's no monetary loss [i.e. only time loss due to spending them on the platform], I don't think I should or would leave a negative feedback, as there is no risk of losing fund dealing with them.

Here is my last deposit : https://tronscan.org/#/transaction/6213d6ca513533ade113a0fa76950a5052c25a2c6dfa4e6879516479def758c4

Only saving that cause a few days ago.

Please count I also do some bet and win, I did betting with total rest unpaid is 117USD.

[...]

Thank you for the hash. I believe TMfC...qSeU is the deposit address for Blackjack.fun? You've at least deposited 276 TRX into the account. Small number [arguably] but still, it shows that you've deposited some fund into the platform instead of what Blackjack claimed, that you deposited nothing. Granted, their claim is USDT, but given you've deposited some fund into their platform, the claim shouldn't even be stated as it bears no weight and have a tendency of misleading.


I'd like to know Blackjack.fun's response for my previous question, whether there's another points that ties those several accounts to OP's, be it device fingerprints or perhaps those alleged alt accounts also perform KYC with similar ID as OP used for his KYC? Because if it's just IP address, I think it's not enough to conclude that the IPs belong to OP, given OP's country uses dynamic IP address.

so 27 USD is a small amount for you if that is correct that he deposited 27 USD and it is a nice amount and more than double than Blackjack.fun ( Scammer ) asks in chat to deposit to get some free gifts

he the Scammer can promise a lot as he anyway does not pay out

[dimonstration]

Here is my last deposit : https://tronscan.org/#/transaction/6213d6ca513533ade113a0fa76950a5052c25a2c6dfa4e6879516479def758c4

Only saving that cause a few days ago.

Please count I also do some bet and win, I did betting with total rest unpaid is 117USD.

Do you have any proof that this address belongs to Blackjack.fun? There’s no tag on the address when viewed in the tronscan. Maybe a screenshot of the deposit address from your account will help to prove this.

Besides, the issue here is you having multiple account and not to determine whether you deposit or not. The money in question here is from free roll which means your deposit doesn’t require to participate on it.

[JackpotRacer]

Here is my last deposit : https://tronscan.org/#/transaction/6213d6ca513533ade113a0fa76950a5052c25a2c6dfa4e6879516479def758c4

Only saving that cause a few days ago.

Please count I also do some bet and win, I did betting with total rest unpaid is 117USD.

Besides, the issue here is you having multiple account and not to determine whether you deposit or not. The money in question here is from free roll which means your deposit doesn’t require to participate on it.

finally someone seems to understand the problem and main point. free rolls don't need a deposit and winners must get paid. easy as that

[Kecil-Kecilan]

Hello everyone, sorry for make a rush for this scam accusations, there is not mean to negative things for blackjack.fun

I am want to say sorry and thank you, my case is solved. without any party being harmed or under pressure.

Now my account is back or re-opened as normally account, I am able to deposit-play-withdrawals right now and of course i playing again with blackjack.fun