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November 19, 2023, 02:32:01 PM
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I don't think most of the gamblers win, and I don't believe every person who says they win, and they don't have to convince me, but if they really win, it means they are very lucky. The purpose of casinos is to keep you online more and make you make mistakes. This is really hard to fight.

Finally, when I look at it from my perspective, I'm probably not making a profit, I've generally made a loss from the games I play, but I don't see this as a problem since I'm not gambling with the money I need and I'm just playing for fun.

I see it as money spent or lost only for entertainment purposes, so there is no problem, and when I earn money from time to time, it gives me extra pleasure.

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November 19, 2023, 04:48:52 PM
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If you’d be chasing profit day by day then expect nothing less than losing. Sometimes stopping the loss or setting a limit to oneself would generate profit. Imagine winning bigtime once and still betting huge the following days simply because of your drive of getting more than what you have won than to secure your win and let your chances do the gambling. The more you lose after a win, the bigger the drive you could have for that desire without knowing that your profit is slowly or if not quickly being consumed again, leaving you nothing but loss. Those who are now in profit are ones who know boundaries on their gambling activity. Acceptance of “it will not always be your day” is better than “You won once, you could win again”.

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November 19, 2023, 05:08:43 PM
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Trust me, even if you spend years in gambling there will always be time where you will question everything, that's gambling for you, and that's why I keep saying that it's not compulsory to gamble, when you have the money that you can afford to lose then you can gamble but losing is the most accurate thing in gambling.

I pity those who aims to make daily income from gambling, they won't know what will hit them hard, the moral lesson of this is that money can't be made easily, you need to exchange a demanding skill for you make money in return.

My gambling journey so far as been unprofitable, more like what you've experienced, but there are days where I get good rewards for gambling, and I just know that I haven't make enough to cover all the past money I've spent on gambling, I am less worried because I have been using what I can afford to lose.

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November 19, 2023, 05:13:03 PM
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If you’d be chasing profit day by day then expect nothing less than losing. Sometimes stopping the loss or setting a limit to oneself would generate profit. Imagine winning bigtime once and still betting huge the following days simply because of your drive of getting more than what you have won than to secure your win and let your chances do the gambling. The more you lose after a win, the bigger the drive you could have for that desire without knowing that your profit is slowly or if not quickly being consumed again, leaving you nothing but loss. Those who are now in profit are ones who know boundaries on their gambling activity. Acceptance of “it will not always be your day” is better than “You won once, you could win again”.



This is the mindset that exists in those who have the wrong view of  gambling and also this is the cycle of addiction experienced by addicts, where there is absolutely no better choice they do, none other than because they cannot think logically and I think there is absolutely no consideration they do before deciding something. Therefore they always act out of control, basically a gambler who is addicted they can never reach the point of satisfaction in each gambling session, in fact when they win they will be greedy and when they lose they will be more curious, so there is absolutely no good choice that they have chosen in the condition of winning or losing.

Yes, that's good advice, basically if we've won it's better to secure the money and enjoy the winnings for other things, it's better because anyway all you want is victory, right? Therefore it is better to go to enjoy it immediately than to continue your gambling based on greed for bigger wins, you must understand that this is gambling where the final result is always unpredictable and maybe you also already know  that usually what often happens is defeat. On the other hand, in my opinion, a real win is a win that you can enjoy, and always set limits because that's the only thing that can help you.

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November 19, 2023, 05:13:36 PM
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I have noticed some individuals claiming to be successful in gambling.
but, my personal experience with online gambling platform over the past 8 months has been consistently unprofitable
I haven't broken even or made any gains. I'm curious if anyone in our community has actually achieved profitability through gambling. If yes, we can calculate that how much percentage of us are profitable.
I know most of the people pay to win and deposit to recover previous losses.

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Yup, however I'm primarily playing on fiat currency these days and only participate because they give free bets every day. I checked recently and am up roughly $700 over the lifetime of the account, just by being rather consistent. I also did matched betting a few years ago, when I was new to all the sportbooks and took advantage of many welcome offers. That would have netted me roughly $300 as well at the time for very little work involved. It takes quite a lot of discipline though and I can see how people can get sucked into the wrong side of gambling, where you end up chasing losses in a vicious downward spiral.

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November 19, 2023, 05:30:17 PM
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I have noticed some individuals claiming to be successful in gambling.
but, my personal experience with online gambling platform over the past 8 months has been consistently unprofitable
I haven't broken even or made any gains. I'm curious if anyone in our community has actually achieved profitability through gambling. If yes, we can calculate that how much percentage of us are profitable.
I know most of the people pay to win and deposit to recover previous losses.

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I haven’t played slots or poker for several months, but Casino 500 sent me a coupon for a bonus deposit. I thought for a long time about what to play - in the end I chose slots, and after spinning several times with a bet of 2 bucks, I ended up with result minus 30 dollars. Then I switched to the “red or black” roulette and played for another minus 10 dollars, I missed the color twice. And I’m trying to find the positives in this: I didn’t have a positive winning experience, and I don’t want to play anymore. And in some ways this is good.

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November 19, 2023, 06:49:00 PM
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This is the opposite for me and that is not only online, but also in real life that people brag about their winnings while never mentioning their losses. I am really puzzled now that this is different for you guys? How is that possible because everyone I know would agree that most people hide their losses or make them smaller as they are, but when they win big there is this one huge story to be told and how this 20 multi-way bet was successful and bla bla.

I'd say it depends more on the platform and why they're on it in the first place.  On YouTube and Twitch for example, you get a ton of streamers bragging about their supposed big wins on gambling sites.  But really they just want more followers and clicks on their affiliate links. 

Whereas on forums and review websites, there are way more losers sharing their stories.  Thats 'cause those places don't let you post referral links and  the motivations are different - people are just venting their frustrations or trying to damage the casino's reputation.

It all comes down to the environment and intentions, I reckon.  Many folks exploit gamblers for popularity and money.
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November 19, 2023, 07:12:06 PM
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I have noticed some individuals claiming to be successful in gambling.
but, my personal experience with online gambling platform over the past 8 months has been consistently unprofitable
I haven't broken even or made any gains.
Most gamblers are always in red, just a few gamblers are constantly making profits in gambling, the rest are always losing. When you see some gamblers that do claim they are successful in gambling, most of them don't really make much money from it, but they keep on hiding it and making people feel they are successful. I am a gambler, and I know the amount I have lost is more than the amount I have won, but it's not affecting me in any way. At least I am getting the fun I need at a particular time, and I know the amount I am gambling with is not really what will affect me after losing.

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November 19, 2023, 07:22:41 PM
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I'd say it depends more on the platform and why they're on it in the first place.  On YouTube and Twitch for example, you get a ton of streamers bragging about their supposed big wins on gambling sites.  But really they just want more followers and clicks on their affiliate links. 

Whereas on forums and review websites, there are way more losers sharing their stories.  Thats 'cause those places don't let you post referral links and  the motivations are different - people are just venting their frustrations or trying to damage the casino's reputation.

It all comes down to the environment and intentions, I reckon.  Many folks exploit gamblers for popularity and money.

That makes sense. In a discussion forum sharing about your losses and how they happened also makes sense when somebody comes up with this one "bullet-proof" strategy and you know it doesn't work and in a best case scenario you have a counter example. One of those examples is when people roll the dice and they think that it is impossible that "High" or "Low" comes like 20 times in a row. So many people tried this with doubling stakes and then go again, but the bank always wins due to the spread. But yes, all good points that you brought up here and the incentives and environments are the main drivers for people to either share their good or bad experiences.
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November 19, 2023, 07:34:04 PM
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Yes, that's good advice, basically if we've won it's better to secure the money and enjoy the winnings for other things, it's better because anyway all you want is victory, right? Therefore it is better to go to enjoy it immediately than to continue your gambling based on greed for bigger wins, you must understand that this is gambling where the final result is always unpredictable and maybe you also already know  that usually what often happens is defeat. On the other hand, in my opinion, a real win is a win that you can enjoy, and always set limits because that's the only thing that can help you.
I always apply positive things in every gambling win, withdraw profits and leave gambling to enjoy daily winnings, when you have withdrawn funds then that is the real profit you get from betting, the opinion of other gamblers says never follow greed to chase bigger profits if you don't want to completely lose the winnings you have obtained.

I haven't calculated my accumulated gambling history, but according to estimates I haven't gotten high profits from gambling, because I target low profits from daily bets and some bets also experience losses, but I minimize losses by only using half of the daily fund limit for gambling.

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November 19, 2023, 08:14:21 PM
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So with your experience, you are not the only one in losses but I will not continue for straight months without taking a break and probably coming back.
I'm one of those who lost money in gambling, isn't this a normal thing that we know?
So some people will experience more losses than wins so there is no need to worry about experiencing it because we will all experience this.

I myself never play continuously so this will damage the bankroll quickly, so come when you want fun and prepare the money that will be lost to play in the casino.

Yes usually when you play responsibly you won't have to complain when you lose because it won't be a serious lose that you will have as you can easily wake away and cut your loses. But the problem with gambling is when you don't have control of your emotion then you want to continue chasing and chasing but the casino can't give you the winning because you are chasing, you only making them have more money from you. So to that a break is the way to restart again and you may be lucky with renewed luck.

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Profit in gambling is a stretch. If a player has started a lucky streak, he will bet and bet until the luck runs out. Therefore, if there is no deterrent or limiting factor, then we can not talk about profit, unfortunately
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November 19, 2023, 09:48:33 PM
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I don't think most of the gamblers win, and I don't believe every person who says they win, and they don't have to convince me, but if they really win, it means they are very lucky. The purpose of casinos is to keep you online more and make you make mistakes. This is really hard to fight.

Finally, when I look at it from my perspective, I'm probably not making a profit, I've generally made a loss from the games I play, but I don't see this as a problem since I'm not gambling with the money I need and I'm just playing for fun.

I see it as money spent or lost only for entertainment purposes, so there is no problem, and when I earn money from time to time, it gives me extra pleasure.
A lot of gamblers don't win but believe that they will win someday, and that belief has turned a lot of them into addicts. once another person wins it will now look as if they have been motivated to bet more, if they continue like that then where is the strategy then, gambling needs strategy because I read a post of someone winning using mathematics, and I noticed that is not always about luck but it also involves skill in a way.  even people who win are not always, they also record losses but will not want to disclose that, they always want to flaunt their winning. but bro let's tell the truth even if it is for fun we all have our eyes on that money, out of fun money is still involved just that it should not cross its limit.

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November 19, 2023, 09:59:01 PM
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I don't think most of the gamblers win, and I don't believe every person who says they win, and they don't have to convince me, but if they really win, it means they are very lucky. The purpose of casinos is to keep you online more and make you make mistakes. This is really hard to fight.

Finally, when I look at it from my perspective, I'm probably not making a profit, I've generally made a loss from the games I play, but I don't see this as a problem since I'm not gambling with the money I need and I'm just playing for fun.

I see it as money spent or lost only for entertainment purposes, so there is no problem, and when I earn money from time to time, it gives me extra pleasure.
It's been statistically proven that the amount of money that is spent daily in gambling is more than two times higher with the amount of money that gambling companies lose to winners but most gamblers doesn't know about this.
A lot of gamblers are absolutely ignorant of this and that's why they'll always want to win even when it's very difficult for them to win more than they lose in gambling. Gambling isn't a game that anyone can dictate the outcome but whatever happens, a gambler should know that it's either they lose or they win whenever they're gambling.

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I have noticed some individuals claiming to be successful in gambling.
but, my personal experience with online gambling platform over the past 8 months has been consistently unprofitable
I haven't broken even or made any gains. I'm curious if anyone in our community has actually achieved profitability through gambling. If yes, we can calculate that how much percentage of us are profitable.
I know most of the people pay to win and deposit to recover previous losses.


Are you in profit?

In this context what we are discussing is gambling. First, it is important to clarify what gambling you mean. I mean specifically, because there are many types of gambling bets. The point is that we can't possibly play all gambling games, in fact there will always be types of gambling games that we don't like or don't even understand. second, what type of gambling do you mean. because it is unlikely that someone will understand, even master all types of gambling, especially those related to several factors involving insight, knowledge, science, and the like which many people call expertise or skills.

Now we discuss profits, as is the theme of the title of this thread. Of course yes, and that applies to all gamblers. However, the problem depends on each gambler himself. Let me take an example, if you count from the first time you gambled until now. and you have experienced many defeats, losses and so on. Then, suddenly you are lucky to get half of the money you have lost because you lost. Would you still say it's still a loss, or...
and this is where most gamblers have different understandings. If so, it means you are chasing profits in the gambling you do. There's nothing wrong with that, it's just important for you to be aware of the consequences and risks of the consequences it causes. what is certain, you can win and become rich. or vice versa, you lose everything. There are many examples, in fact we often discuss them either from the side that lost a lot of money or from the side that gained wealth from gambling.

Now it's my turn, to be honest I never calculate the percentage of either wins or losses. the point is, I know that gambling contains risks. especially when it comes to pure games of luck. luckily I tend to like sports even though I don't always bet on them, there are times when I need other entertainment, namely slot games. But in sports, I can manage the bets I make.
Don't be greedy, to get 3 winning matches in a single bet, that's quite profitable. after all, we benefit from the many matches presented every week, take your time if you want to get the results you want and choose 1/2 of the many matches presented. provided that it has gone through a research and analysis process.

Well, now, the point is up to you, what you will do with your gambling.

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November 19, 2023, 10:21:13 PM
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I can't really tell how profitable I have been in the past since I usually don't calculate my profit and loss, but based on my eye gauge, I can really tell that I was not making a good thing out of it.
 
But for the past one week now that I have been trying out my luck on ring of fortune, wheel, and classic dice, I have been getting a lot of good returns, which I probably can't call my skill but just luck being on my side. Just yesterday I deposited about $0.98 in my local currency (about #1000), and at the end of the day I went home with approximately $11 if I got the conversion rate correctly. That has been going on since last week in lesser amounts. I don't gamble constantly, but these past few weeks have been blessed for me.

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November 19, 2023, 10:29:17 PM
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I play for fun, and even if I tried to think about impossible things like making a profit with gambling, in practice (playing) I would lose and end up with losses, so it's useless and unproductive and not worth thinking about playing with the intention of having profit in gambling, when a person has this type of thinking, it is difficult for the person to accept defeats and loss of money and always focuses on putting more money into gambling and recovering the money they lost. I say this because I remember that when I started making sports bets I had a lot of illusions, thoughts like: I'm going to deposit

but strangely, when I thought about giving up and not making a bet for a long time, I made my last bets and won and with that I recovered all my money and left with a profit and stopped playing, years later I started playing again and there are times I win and times I lose, but looking at the statistics, I have a lot of losses, as I play just for fun, it doesn't hurt me. I also don't feel sad about my losses, I look at them as part of the game and my fun, I don't play using money that I can't afford to lose, I play in moderation and to keep myself in control I don't play all the time, there are many times when I don't place bets and limit myself to just following the results of the games

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November 19, 2023, 10:35:06 PM
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I don't think most of the gamblers win, and I don't believe every person who says they win, and they don't have to convince me, but if they really win, it means they are very lucky. The purpose of casinos is to keep you online more and make you make mistakes. This is really hard to fight.

Predictions in gambling cannot be considered errors. The principle of gambling originally assumes setting probabilities that may go wrong or may be right. Since human thought is capable of anticipating multiple possibilities, gambling platforms bet on the error factor, which is probable and likely.
It is impossible for anyone to be able to predict the correct odds every time, and on this basis, gambling companies are always profitable. If we talk about sports betting, let alone electronic betting that has been programmed in advance.
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November 19, 2023, 10:36:36 PM
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Profit in gambling is a stretch. If a player has started a lucky streak, he will bet and bet until the luck runs out. Therefore, if there is no deterrent or limiting factor, then we can not talk about profit, unfortunately

In gambling there used to be lucky streaks before but now it seems every body has run out of them,very few times I have seen people hitting max wins lately while before this was a matter of the day,in different slot machines people used to hit the max win if not daily,at a minimum weekly,now this seems to have finished,don't know what the slot providers have done but their RTP is suddenly changing,so there is no more lucky streaks,only constant losing of money and yes profit is a distant thing now that we need a telescope to look at it,that is how far it has gone  Grin.

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November 19, 2023, 10:37:59 PM
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I play for fun, and even if I tried to think about impossible things like making a profit with gambling, in practice (playing) I would lose and end up with losses, so it's useless and unproductive and not worth thinking about playing with the intention of having profit in gambling, when a person has this type of thinking, it is difficult for the person to accept defeats and loss of money and always focuses on putting more money into gambling and recovering the money they lost. I say this because I remember that when I started making sports bets I had a lot of illusions, thoughts like: I'm going to deposit

but strangely, when I thought about giving up and not making a bet for a long time, I made my last bets and won and with that I recovered all my money and left with a profit and stopped playing, years later I started playing again and there are times I win and times I lose, but looking at the statistics, I have a lot of losses, as I play just for fun, it doesn't hurt me. I also don't feel sad about my losses, I look at them as part of the game and my fun, I don't play using money that I can't afford to lose, I play in moderation and to keep myself in control I don't play all the time, there are many times when I don't place bets and limit myself to just following the results of the games

The current gambling outcome was   NO

But being the experienced gambler,I had huge hope in the gambling site.So the continuous loss was not the permanent loss in the gambling site.If the loss happened in the gambling site,it mean the god tell us to keep some wait for the next game to the gambling sites.The practice should be made by the gambler on the specific game compared to the random betting.The most of the gambler do this blunder by doing the random bet in the gambling sites.So being the gambler,it was essential to build the tactics for the game which you used to play for the many times or to your favourite game.The gambler should not get affected their mindset to the gambling losses,the loss can be recovered in the short period.
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