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November 18, 2023, 04:29:36 PM
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Let’s say I remain logged in to my Bitcointalk account on a separate tab of my browser that I’m using. Then I minimize it when I’m doing other things with my computer, does still count or only the time when I browse the forum or remain my screen on Bitcointalk?

I just notice that my total time logged in is still very low despite I’m always online because I leave my browser open almost 24hrs in my company computer while my account is still login.

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November 18, 2023, 04:32:09 PM
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If I remember things correctly (someone corrects me if I'm wrong), it's whenever you're active.

So, let's say you're logged in, and then you visit a page, you are then considered "active" for the next 15 minutes and that's counted towards your logged-in hours. If you visit another page after 5 minutes only, then it'll start recounting after those five minutes which would make your logged-in hours 20 minutes.

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November 18, 2023, 04:50:23 PM
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Yes Omega is right it is when you are actively moving login and engaging or opening one thread to another is the time calculated. Having your account on a tab doesn’t mean it is login, when you leave a tab on a browse it almost as though you’re not online and when you come back you will have to reload it to see changes.

Example is when you open a thread on this forum and leave the tab and go to another one when you come back to it you will see the same thing (last post) you left but when you reload it then new replies will appear that means you’re now logged in.

Another example is when you set the time for you account to automatically logged out and you close the tab and come back after that time has surpassed you might still see the account login as you left it but once you reload it then it will log you out and require login details

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November 18, 2023, 05:19:35 PM
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It’s related to the actual web page requests that you make, something like what is described in this (old) post on the SMF forum. The referenced post indicates that your’re not really logged into the forum on a constant basis, but rather every HTTP request resends information that reauthenticates you, allowing SMF to make some assumptions to derive the cumulative time your session has been logged-in, so as to say, based on the interval of time between requests (some shorter interval lengths lead SMF to assume you are still logged-in, whilst other longer intervals do the opposite).
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November 18, 2023, 06:44:51 PM
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If I remember things correctly (someone corrects me if I'm wrong), it's whenever you're active.

So, let's say you're logged in, and then you visit a page, you are then considered "active" for the next 15 minutes and that's counted towards your logged-in hours. If you visit another page after 5 minutes only, then it'll start recounting after those five minutes which would make your logged-in hours 20 minutes.
That's interesting. I was curious to know how exactly total time logged in is calculated, but never seen thread where it's explained well. So, as I understand, if I would open Bitcointalk and would leave tab with it open without doing anything, while on other tab I would start watching Youtube videos for more than 1 hour for example, then only 15 minutes would add to my my total time logged in?

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November 18, 2023, 06:53:48 PM
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That's interesting. I was curious to know how exactly total time logged in is calculated, but never seen thread where it's explained well. So, as I understand, if I would open Bitcointalk and would leave tab with it open without doing anything, while on other tab I would start watching Youtube videos for more than 1 hour for example, then only 15 minutes would add to my my total time logged in?

Yes, that should be the case if my memory serves me correctly.

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November 18, 2023, 07:00:17 PM
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yeah I never ever ever log out unless there is a power outage I have been logged on since aug 2012 which is about 11 years 3 months.  I think my log in time listed is 500 days.

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Total time logged in: 487 days, 7 hours and 1 minutes.

about 16 months time.

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November 18, 2023, 08:56:03 PM
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yeah I never ever ever log out unless there is a power outage I have been logged on since aug 2012 which is about 11 years 3 months.  I think my log in time listed is 500 days.

I am at ::

Total time logged in: 487 days, 7 hours and 1 minutes.

about 16 months time.

That's quite interesting to know because I guess that you and only a few other members may have that many logged in days on this forum. Most of the members of the forum haven't even completed their 100th logged in day and only a few have completed their 365 logged in days.

Is it possible for others to see your logged in days or only you can see that? If I'm not wrong then the administrators or moderators might be able to see the users logged in time. Are third-party sites like BPIP.org, or Loyce.club or Ninjastic.space can determine the exact logged time or those sites are unable to determine those things?

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November 18, 2023, 08:58:06 PM
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It’s related to the actual web page requests that you make, something like what is described in this (old) post on the SMF forum. The referenced post indicates that your’re not really logged into the forum on a constant basis, but rather every HTTP request resends information that reauthenticates you, allowing SMF to make some assumptions to derive the cumulative time your session has been logged-in, so as to say, based on the interval of time between requests (some shorter interval lengths lead SMF to assume you are still logged-in, whilst other longer intervals do the opposite).
Thanks for this clarification, because I have also thought that it is better for be to stay login on my device so that I have a more hoots added to the number of fays that shows on my profile but I found out that the hours are not increasing and that was when I came to conclusion that it must be active hours that counts and not just staying online without being active. In this way forum members will not be able to outsmart their active time in the forum by using their inactive time as an opportunity to increase their number of days of activeness.

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November 19, 2023, 01:16:05 AM
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Some contributors declare that the active time is calculated to be less, than the online session on their device because they close the tab, including me, I have just reached a count of tens of days in cumulative bitcointalk web open sessions, the same as browsing a web, even if it is limited to reading topics, at first I just thought that what was counted was the time to make a post, I didn't pay attention because I read so often on the forum every time I had free time, this is interesting.

It’s related to the actual web page requests that you make, something like what is described in this (old) post on the SMF forum.
I opened your link and was redirected to the newer SMF webpage, but my eye comfort is still comfortable and pleasant to look at in this forum (old version of SMF), more friendly and less painful.

I see, actively logging in on bitcointalk is the right thing to do.









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As long as you keep an eye on the forum, the login time will be added, but if you move to another page, the login time will not be added to your original time. Because it is basically a matter of being active in the forum, except for 15 minutes and longer if you are inactive. If there is, the time will not be calculated later. I have seen that if I start watching YouTube after being active in the forum then the total is added to 15 minutes, but the next time is not added, again if I am active in the forum then again the time is added to the login time.

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November 19, 2023, 02:24:23 AM
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I just notice that my total time logged in is still very low despite I’m always online because I leave my browser open almost 24hrs in my company computer while my account is still login.
To have login time counted, you will have to actively use the forum. Actively means opening page, read and do some actively activities. Opening a thread, and leave it there 24 hours does not mean you are actively using the forum for 24 hours.

I don't know the formula to count login time and it seems the answer from one of forum moderators, OmegaStarScream is the best you can have.

I have 87 days, 6 hours and 57 minutes with my account. Not impressive but not too little.

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November 19, 2023, 08:13:34 AM
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It’s related to the actual web page requests that you make, something like what is described in this (old) post on the SMF forum.

Is this the way it is calculated here? I think I saw the total time logged for some accounts more than the period of time since the date the account was created, and the reason may be because those accounts request HTTP request resends quickly.


Total time logged in: 487 days, 7 hours and 1 minutes.
I've seen in the past some people hide their dates but you spend a lot of time here, my time is 200 days.

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I was thinking that the amount of time one spent online show how it's being calculated maybe if someone login online and spent 2hr to 5hrs it's being counted and if someone went offline, when they comes back online again the total amount they spent online are being counted and added to the previous time they were online summing up the total days and time they logged on. Although @OmegaStarScream explanation seems very much understandable.

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November 19, 2023, 11:26:26 AM
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So, let's say you're logged in, and then you visit a page, you are then considered "active" for the next 15 minutes and that's counted towards your logged-in hours. If you visit another page after 5 minutes only, then it'll start recounting after those five minutes which would make your logged-in hours 20 minutes.
LoyceBot has only 15 days "time logged in", which should be a lot more based on your description.
Meanwhile, forum stats show 10 users who are logged in for more than 60 years.
So my conclusion is: it's flawed. It could just as well be removed. Most of the "record holders" above created their account close together, and stopped being active around the same time. It looks like some people are just spamming the server for holding the record.

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That's very possible, or maybe the way of calculating has changed over time. I'm not sure but this is just based on some tests I have done a very long time ago by the way. It's not something the administration mentioned.

I actually think I also had a bot running at some point, and it did show 24 hours as logged-in time, after 24 hours of running the bot and visiting pages every few seconds, but again, I could be mistaken.

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If I remember things correctly (someone corrects me if I'm wrong), it's whenever you're active.

So, let's say you're logged in, and then you visit a page, you are then considered "active" for the next 15 minutes and that's counted towards your logged-in hours. If you visit another page after 5 minutes only, then it'll start recounting after those five minutes which would make your logged-in hours 20 minutes.
You are right, it all depends on how active the person is, the activity however is too technical to calculate, which is where many might be making mistakes. I read through what others have narrated and I realized that there are slight differences in response to how this activity is being calculated. The only thing that is sure is that once you are active, then the counter continues to accord that for you. I mean refreshing and surfing the forum actively, not just typing.



The counter might also stop counting in a situation as shown above despite the person is still active on the webpage. This often happens to me mostly when I have a lot to type.

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LoyceBot has only 15 days "time logged in", which should be a lot more based on your description.
I expected it to be longer based on HTTP requests. Perhaps since you have been added to the white list, the time has decreased significantly.
I noticed that time increases dramatically when I open several pages one after another.
In general, no one seems to care about these numbers, otherwise some would try to increase them.

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LoyceBot has only 15 days "time logged in", which should be a lot more based on your description.
I expected it to be longer based on HTTP requests. Perhaps since you have been added to the white list, the time has decreased significantly.
I noticed that time increases dramatically when I open several pages one after another.
In general, no one seems to care about these numbers, otherwise some would try to increase them.

Yeah I guess I could open my account in Chrome Safari Edge Firefox and tack on time like mad. But I don't.


I usually am logged in on three devices an iPad and 2 Mac minis. But they normally would all be the same browser.  Being doing it that way for a long time.

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It’s related to the actual web page requests that you make, something like what is described in this (old) post on the SMF forum. The referenced post indicates that your’re not really logged into the forum on a constant basis, but rather every HTTP request resends information that reauthenticates you, allowing SMF to make some assumptions to derive the cumulative time your session has been logged-in, so as to say, based on the interval of time between requests (some shorter interval lengths lead SMF to assume you are still logged-in, whilst other longer intervals do the opposite).

Do you mean that if I am logged in, read posts only and log out for complete 1year, I will not have any rating of number of days logged in?
It means I need to post, quote someone, send merit before logged in days could count?

I have about 50+ days and I am not sure I have completely understood what that works and how it helps forum itself. I mean merit and activity for ranking. What does number of logged in days do?

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